Helicopter Heroes.

Its so easy to blame the Pakistan Army when it comes to getting the relief goods to the affected areas, but just read this BBC report and put yourself in their place. Flying helicopters at night, amidst bad weather conditions – these men truly are angels.

18 Comments so far

  1. Saadie (unregistered) on October 17th, 2005 @ 2:20 pm

    Salute to them.


  2. Irfan (unregistered) on October 17th, 2005 @ 5:01 pm

    No one blames the soldiers of Pak army. They have been in the trenches for the past 50+ years. It is the officers no one is willing to trust. If anyone does, it is usually themselves or their relatives. No salute to generals.


  3. Q (unregistered) on October 17th, 2005 @ 6:25 pm

    I agree with the comments . Individual soldiers are buffered for taking commands and its the management the top brass that failed to creat an immediate response and even now civilan response is far better then the Top Country management.


  4. Raheel (unregistered) on October 17th, 2005 @ 9:46 pm

    Yes they are!!
    I agree with Irfan too.


  5. PAKISTANI (unregistered) on October 18th, 2005 @ 12:16 am

    There on BBC another article on how a mullah just couldn’t understand the need to feed the hungry. Why these mullahs always wont to burn down things. When would we burn down these bigots who are nothing but a bad name to our religion, our nation and our culture.


  6. Moid (unregistered) on October 18th, 2005 @ 12:17 am

    Pak army is much involved in grabbing lands and civilian posts, that i won’t be surprised if they forget how to fly helicopters.

    I mean I wonder what would they have done if India invaded in night? Same excuses?


  7. hafsa (unregistered) on October 18th, 2005 @ 2:35 am

    i could say a lot in response to these comments but i don’t want to start an unhealthy discussion here. especially not at a time like this. lets just back everyone and anyone who is working towards the cause and not point fingers?


  8. Maisam (unregistered) on October 18th, 2005 @ 4:13 am

    im a cadet in PMA …
    for all those who say kay its officers who are to blame ..
    dude i know what training we undergo daily…1 day in PMA is equal to 100 days in a civil mahol ..
    and its officers who motivate these soldiers ..who command these soldiers .. who pump out that passion from them…
    u cant sit there and say whatever u like … ok if few are curroupt …becuz of em..why blame the whole LOT !?

    and otherwise if PAK ARMY was like PAK POLICE …we would have seen some action in the affected areas !!
    so dude dont talk ..if one guy has commitied some sh** ..its his own way ..dont blame the good people in it as well !!

    Maisam


  9. Irfan (unregistered) on October 18th, 2005 @ 12:40 pm

    I was going to stay away from this topic but “MAISAM” post has urged me to respond.

    So if you undergo a few (4 to be precise)years of physical training that authorizes, legalizes and moralized for you to turn the your guns, the very guns that this nation provided you to defend herself, on your fellow countrymen. This is the only achievement of Paksitan Armed Forces-ruling the people they are sworn to defend in the past 50 years.
    And you undergoing hard labor in your camps of indoctrination means no one else living in civilian Mahals has worked hard. In no other “civilized” nation has this happened. Since you undergo tough training, it gives you the right to put an ARMY, NAVY or AIR FARCE sticker on your cars and flaunts he laws of the civilian society that you are supposed to defend and protect.

    The very tone of your email underscores the rot in the Pakistan Armed Forces.


  10. mohummed (unregistered) on October 18th, 2005 @ 1:44 pm

    MOID: With refrence to ur comment that what will the PAk forces do if India invades us in the night time. I am a former student of PAF cadet school sargodha & i did my inter from PAF inter college masroor. We use to had visits to the base technical areas where we were briefed by PAF officers & all the weaponry used to be displayed. For ur kind information , In all bases of PAF there r some fighters which r on ADA ( air defence alert) . In any emergency , the pilot has to take off within 3 minutes only !!!!. can u imagine how precise r 3 mins.

    Secondly the chopper which crashed a couple of days was a Russian MI-17 helicopter & all Russian aircrafts have a very bad crash history!. Its not the army’s fault , coz they had to go with it as the # of choppers was very less. Just think abt the situation of their families , wives , parents , children , relatives , frndz e.t.c , who died on duty & in uniform.

    If some of the high officials r corrupt than not all uniformed persons should be blamed. Many of my close relatives r in forces & i know their valour.


  11. Erum (unregistered) on October 18th, 2005 @ 1:55 pm

    I feel so sorry and embarrassed to read all this, really. Look at the people of my country, just look at them! Even at this time of devastation all they can talk about is their hatred towards the army or forces. Guys, all I want to say here is, you’re no one to judge anyone else. (and Iím not with anyone of you – FYI). It’d be better if you discuss something healthy here rather than breaking our already divided nation. This is the reason we’re still an underdeveloped, poor country coz all we can focus on is criticism. Criticism just for the sake of criticism!
    If you have some hatred against eachother, plz keep it offline. Letís be mature now.


  12. Irfan (unregistered) on October 18th, 2005 @ 3:33 pm

    It is the times like this when we need to reflect on what happened to our beloved nation. You say we should not judge others (army), and then you go right on and say this is all criticism for the sake of criticism and people who are posting such criticism are immature. So you have the right to judge us and our intentions!What hypocrisy.

    I mentioned in my first post that no body is judging sodliers in the trenches.
    I will not return to this again because, as against what you said, people who still think that out armed forces officers are angels need to grow and mature.


  13. mohummed (unregistered) on October 19th, 2005 @ 11:48 am

    As I said earlier , if some of the high officials r corrupt than not all of the forces should be blamed


  14. Pakistani (unregistered) on October 19th, 2005 @ 10:43 pm

    Do not fight now, help build Pakistan. I would like to solute to people of Pakistan esp. Karachi. Salam Karachi-you made us so proud on this hour of help and desperasion.

    Get rid of mullahs and their burning torches who would like to use evry excuse to denounce pakistanihood in Pakistanis.


  15. hafsa (unregistered) on October 19th, 2005 @ 11:17 pm

    i don’t mean to start a political discussion here but “pakistani”, didn’t you just say “Do not fight now, help build Pakistan”? and now you’re asking to get rid of mullahs. i am not anti or pro any political party but i know that this is probably the first time in the history of pakistan that all politics has been set aside for one cause, pakistan.


  16. mohummed (unregistered) on October 20th, 2005 @ 12:13 pm

    Our Karachi has really done a commendable job by providind aid to the affected areas


  17. KZΞΞ (unregistered) on October 20th, 2005 @ 1:56 pm

    Easy to criticize the officers of Pakistan Army … the officer incharge of relief operation in Muzaffarabad, Brig. Ihsan ul Haq lost his 11 year old son in the quake, but he did not even attend his funeral because he was supervising the relief operations.

    “There are several army officers, jawans (soldiers) who lost their family members in the earthquake but they declined to leave Muzaffarabad and are helping with rescue and relief activities,” says Major General Shaukat Sultan, the army spokesman.

    They include the officer who is in charge of the army in devastated Muzaffarabad, Brigadier Ihsanul Haq.

    “Brigadier Ihsanul Haq lost his son but he did not go to the funeral of his son and is supervising the relief activities,” Sultan said. “Now the General Officer Commanding has ordered him to attend to his family. This is the spirit with which people are working in the area.”

    Get more of this at:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051014/wl_sthasia_afp/quakesasiapakistanmilitary_051014062022

    Help build Pakistan .. Long live Pakistan …
    with all my heart…


  18. Irfan (unregistered) on October 23rd, 2005 @ 1:10 am

    This is what we meant and this is what we are afraid of!!!!

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051022/ap_on_re_as/pakistan_quake_pk1_8



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