Karsaz Flyover – A controversy in the making

For quite a while now, Im sure most of us have gone through our fair share of trouble when attempting to pass through the Karsaz/Dalmia/Stadium Road intersection.

During the past two weeks, the road was twice closed down unannounced since the contractors were mounting horizontal beams on the pillars that have been installed, forcing trafic to go through the Sir Shah Suleman Road, take a U turn and then head back in from Mid-city hospital.

The bigger crisis can be seen in the picture below. A section of this mosque-cum-maddresa has been demolished to make way for the main pillar, but what will happen when the main horizontal beams need to be installed.

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Its easy to tell that the upper storey will have to be completely demolished. Point is, is this a possoble flashpoint for religio-political parties?

Another point to review is, what actions have been taken to accomodate the loss of space caused to the maddresa/mosque?

18 Comments so far

  1. Tee Emm (unregistered) on August 16th, 2006 @ 10:46 am

    The mosque is reportedly moving to a new place within the same green belt, near the ABN Amro ATM.


  2. Zag (unregistered) on August 16th, 2006 @ 10:48 am

    If you had looked at the masterplan of the map which they published in the papers, they were planning to move the mosque a little bit. Currentlt there’s another structure being errected a few meters from the current mosque location, i think thats the new location of the mosque and the madrassah.


  3. SWA (unregistered) on August 16th, 2006 @ 11:02 am

    Was this mosque on a legally authorized piece of land in the first place? How can a mosque have been built on a greenbelt?

    I have seen cases where people have grabbed land in order to build a mosque. What kind of a mosque would such a mosque be??


  4. Athlon3ghz (unregistered) on August 16th, 2006 @ 12:23 pm

    This mosque is not build on authorized land yet it will be a win-win situation . the mosque would be transfered to a govt. sponsered location meaning that not only it will be 100% legit but the construction costs would be on govt. shoulders and best of all the innocent worshippers who usually dont know whether the mosque in with they pray has been build following shiariah guidlines can pray without worry in it


  5. Kashif-x (unregistered) on August 16th, 2006 @ 12:28 pm

    I have been passing thru Karsaz for years now and i saw that mosque built in front of my own eyes.

    First, it was a small room that was built by the traffic cops to sit in between shifts and do paperwork.

    Next, a small makeshift room props up (on the gren belt) which the traffic cops used for prayers (it makes you wonder how they collect bribes and then go off to offer prayers to ‘wash’ their sins)

    Next, the small room was made bigger as bus drivers and rickshaw walas and other motorists used to stop by to offer prayers.

    Next, the construction started on a full fledge mosque and now we have a mosque on a land that is a designated greenbelt.

    I think every area should have mosques as required by the locality, but NOT by encroaching on public property.


  6. MB (unregistered) on August 16th, 2006 @ 2:27 pm

    Majority of the mosques in Karachi are illegal. Its plain and simple. No problem if one more is coming.


  7. Nadir Nasir (unregistered) on August 16th, 2006 @ 3:02 pm

    It does matter!

    They say and people think that building “Masjid” is “sadga-e-jariya” It is indeed….

    But what do you think? Apply some brains.

    I go and rob The State Bank of Pakistan, and with all the money I start to facilitate the poor for their life time (Wesay the money would be more than enough to get each poor person to start his own life)

    BUT would that be a Sadga-e-Jariya?


  8. Nadir Nasir (unregistered) on August 16th, 2006 @ 3:05 pm

    (Sorry the link to my blog is wrong) This one is right


  9. Kashif-x (unregistered) on August 16th, 2006 @ 4:10 pm

    Gee thanks for the correct link Nadir, i am sure by correcting here you have saved the thousands of bloggers (wink) trying to acess your blog desperately !


  10. Zain (unregistered) on August 16th, 2006 @ 5:05 pm

    @ Kashif’s : i am sure by correcting here you have saved the thousands of bloggers (wink) trying to acess your blog desperately—- hahahhahahhahhhahahahahhahaahahahahhahahhahahhahhhahhahhahahahhaahhahaahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahaahhahahhahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaah


  11. YO YO (unregistered) on August 16th, 2006 @ 7:25 pm

    Do not jump to the conclusion that the mosque was illegal.


  12. YO YO (unregistered) on August 16th, 2006 @ 8:36 pm

    Weak Mullah..Zabiullah..LOL
    Aray bhai Mullah he mila hai zibah karnay ko rat din. 59 years and Mullah never ruled this country and still they are hated most, Why? They have done their share of bad..yes, but they do not top the list by any chance. We have mostly been hurt by people educated in oxford and cambridge.


  13. Raza (unregistered) on August 16th, 2006 @ 9:35 pm

    Building mosques on unauthorized lands is common in KHI. I remember one such mosque was built on the Shah-Faisal Colony and Sharah-e-Faisal intersection several years ago. Needless to say, it still stands … not to mention fully-developed now.


  14. SWA (unregistered) on August 17th, 2006 @ 3:03 am

    Mullah is not hated, but mullah is most responsible for how he leads the people who follow them. Yes, the Mullah should be scrutinized, and because of his more higher position, should be held to higher standards of conduct.
    Its high time people start to use their brains and start to follow whats right. If its a mosque that is illegally made with illegal anything, you can be SURE that the people operating the mosque dont have dont have any purity within themselves. After all, I dont think Allah would like it if you commit a crime to promote his religion. Also, it would be blatant hypocrisy.
    The prophet Muhammad (PBUH) made sure that the Kabah mosque and masjid-e-nabvi were made out of rightly earned money. HE DIDNT DO THIS JUST BY THE WAY! THERE WAS A MESSAGE IN THIS ACT.
    Something that sadly, we Pakistanis seem to forget.
    YEs, be VERY mindful and discerning in which mullah you follow!


  15. Nancy (unregistered) on August 17th, 2006 @ 8:49 am

    How if we think that whole land is of Allah and you dont need to take permission of building mosque then things look different. Dont they ? Its just different mindset, you can not blame religious people.


  16. Nadir Nasir (unregistered) on August 17th, 2006 @ 10:12 am

    Good one Kashif!

    But don’t you think its a good sign to have your own mistakes pointed out by your own self and get them corrected before somebody else points it out.


  17. SWA (unregistered) on August 17th, 2006 @ 7:06 pm

    All the land belongs to Allah but Allah sets up a government to make sure everything is done lawfully and rightfully. And Islam asks us to respect the government and follow the rules and regulations of the government. Therefore, breaking them would also mean comitting a sin.

    Our govt may not be respectable as yet but we still dont have the right to go around breaking laws and justifying them in the name of religion. Its funny how many shortcuts people can find on the bases of religion. Its a plague that has beset our nation.


  18. SWA (unregistered) on August 17th, 2006 @ 7:07 pm

    All the land belongs to Allah but Allah sets up a government to make sure everything is done lawfully and rightfully. And Islam asks us to respect the government and follow the rules and regulations of the government. Therefore, breaking them would also mean comitting a sin.

    Our govt may not be respectable as yet but we still dont have the right to go around breaking laws and justifying them in the name of religion. Its funny how many shortcuts people can find on the bases of religion. Its a plague that has beset our nation.



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