Karachi, becoming a better place?

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While coming from Korangi Highway, I saw this truck of “kachra” doing some cleaning activity. A cleaner Karachi???

With so much of construction going on around the city, greenery to be planted, mosquitoes to be eliminated (May be, yes), new super markets coming up every day…the Question is “Will Karachi be a better place to live?” (May be in next 10 years?)
We, as it is, love Karachi a lot but will it be any better. I’m sure, yes.

20 Comments so far

  1. fAr stAr (unregistered) on November 6th, 2006 @ 12:35 pm

    well it mainly deponds on the ppl living here. yes we karachiites can make it a better place even in 2-3 years. apart from the construction mess, most other forms of pollutions r spread by us. the truck was also cleaning the ‘kachra’ spread all around by most of us. and the pollution by the waste materials from the industries which carry many harmful chemicals with them. and the pollution from the silencers of the automobiles. the list is very long and the counter steps taking by the authorities r not enough to save this city from all this. so now the responsibitily lies with us to save our beloved city and bring back the City of Lights.


  2. Mansoor (unregistered) on November 6th, 2006 @ 12:51 pm

    We can definitely hope and pray. But i agree with the above comment thats its also upto people living here.
    Incidently.. I saw in the paper today that the nazim has pledged 260 new garbage trucks for the city. Does he read kmb 2? Lol


  3. Mansoor (unregistered) on November 6th, 2006 @ 12:52 pm

    We can definitely hope and pray. But i agree with the above comment thats its also upto people living here.
    Incidently.. I saw in the paper today that the nazim has pledged 260 new garbage trucks for the city. Does he read kmb 2? Lol


  4. unaiza nasim (unregistered) on November 6th, 2006 @ 1:11 pm

    HAHAHA! I think I should call up the Nazims secretary and aks him to take a print out of KMB posts:-D
    I’m serious!


  5. fAr stAr (unregistered) on November 6th, 2006 @ 1:28 pm

    testing


  6. ArseneWenger (unregistered) on November 6th, 2006 @ 1:58 pm

    @FAR STAR: Totally agree with you that we all have to start doing something ourselves regarding garbage. Small things done on individual basis would accumulate to soon become big. How about making a pledge here and now, that we will never litter while driving around in our city. Numerous times i have committed this “crime” of throwing stuff like wrappers, empty cups, bottles. i am sorry for all this and i hereby will ensure that i will even make sure that people travelling with me dont do the same.


  7. fAr stAr (unregistered) on November 6th, 2006 @ 3:19 pm

    @ArseneWenger: i hope u can continue the effort and will inspire ppl around u as well.
    its actually the habit of Pakistanis to throw trash everywhere. Muree which is used to be a very good hill station have now become filther then karachi n lahore. even ppl from big cities r now polluting the heights of giant mountains and the depths of beautiful lakes. i’ve traveled to many parts of the northern areas and NWFP, the famous n well known places which r easily accesable r losing their beauty and charm coz of the pollution. we can atleast try n carry a litter bag with us and try not to pollute those epic-lands.


  8. Bozz (unregistered) on November 6th, 2006 @ 3:32 pm

    For one praying ain’t the answer. But I am glad to see that at least on this blog there are people ready to start to take responsibility. And yes it does begin with one self.

    By the way pollution is not limited to garbage alone. Noise, smoke, toxic waste etc. also form a part of pollution.

    Are things going to improve? In the short term, I do not think so. Why you may ask, and the reason that I shall advance is because of ignorance and lack of education.

    In my opinion nothing will change till we address the above problem together with population control.

    By the way education is also not confined to books only. By education I mean besides the bloody obvious form, that we receive in school, it also incorporates awareness, tolerance, sensivity, respect and other social norms.

    Now, not throwing out a litter from a moving car maybe the beginnings of civilized behaviour, but what you should also look at is that no one else does the same, at least not from your car, and that your driver respects the above and the rules of the road.

    On the long run?

    My answer is still a big NO. Honestly, when was the last time you looked in the mirror? Hell with the patriotic BS, can you not see who we are and have become.

    Not in your or my lifetime.

    Cheers


  9. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on November 6th, 2006 @ 4:24 pm
  10. MB (unregistered) on November 6th, 2006 @ 4:28 pm

    I had a long reply in my mind but what BOZZ said above made me think again and i found it more meaningful to reproduce it. And that too in bold so readers know what i really mean quoting it.


    pollution is not limited to garbage alone. Noise, smoke, toxic waste etc. also form a part of pollution.

    Are things going to improve? In the short term, I do not think so. Why you may ask, and the reason that I shall advance is because of ignorance and lack of education.

    In my opinion nothing will change till we address the above problem together with population control.

    By the way education is also not confined to books only. By education I mean besides the bloody obvious form, that we receive in school, it also incorporates awareness, tolerance, sensivity, respect and other social norms.

    Now, not throwing out a litter from a moving car maybe the beginnings of civilized behaviour, but what you should also look at is that no one else does the same, at least not from your car, and that your driver respects the above and the rules of the road.

    On the long run?

    My answer is still a big NO. Honestly, when was the last time you looked in the mirror? Hell with the patriotic BS, can you not see who we are and have become.

    Not in your or my lifetime.

    @UNAIZA :
    A change in title would be good because the question “Will Karachi be a better place to live?” is quite generalized. You can be specific considering the photo in question.


  11. unaiza nasim (unregistered) on November 6th, 2006 @ 4:36 pm

    @MB: hmmm… Well, I still insist on having the same title, as it mad eme think on the lines alraedy written.
    Also, there is this construction going on, a flyover if you look in the picture.


  12. fAr stAr (unregistered) on November 6th, 2006 @ 4:48 pm

    what about the polluted thought. isn’t it a part of pollution?


  13. Bozz (unregistered) on November 6th, 2006 @ 5:09 pm

    We may disagree here. Polluted Thoughts! Now you are getting into personal domain. So the answer to that question would be, by whose definition? One man’s meat is another man’s poison.

    IMHO – No – polluted thoughts do not constitute as pollution.

    So, dream on……


  14. xia (unregistered) on November 7th, 2006 @ 9:56 am

    Here are the numbers (taken from Dawn) for this month so far. Do not get me wrong. I love Karachi to death, but it is not getting any better. Those who say it is getting better, Ibad, Kamal and other alike, are smoking dope. Even though I respect Ibad and Kamal for their efforts.

    Nov 6, 2006
    65 deprived of vehicles, cellphones

    Nov 5, 2006
    77 deprived of phones, vehicles

    Nov 3, 2006
    93 deprived of vehicles, phones

    Nov 2, 2006
    91 deprived of vehicles, phones

    Nov 1, 2006
    25 vehicles, 48 phones stolen

    Why would a business man come and invest in Karachi? Give me one good reason to invest in Karachi? What do we have to offer to a foreign business man that would bring him to Karachi and not to Dubai or Chinai? Heck I tried to book a flight from Swiss to Karachi and Swiss international told me no more khi. I have to land at Dubai from swiss and then take a local flight, PIA or Emirates to get to my dear city. What is happening to Karachi? Is it true that no international airline comes to Karachi any more other than emirates?

    I know part of the fault lies with Ganja and his team for what they have done in late 90’s. But we had good 6 years to make things better. What have we done?

    It is sad to see Karachi not getting the business that it can easily get. We have the talent and we have the “jazba” to get the job done.

    This post talks about polution. Garbage in general and taffic may be. I remember masis from different houses used to throw the trash on the street just because the household did not want to pay a jamadaar to come and get the trash. It was a common practice in my part of town.

    Traffic? Man tell me one thing. Why do these same drivers of minibuses and taxis go to middle east and drive like a sane person? why do they not get high on hash and drive in Dubai? becuase they know that they will get their fair share of whooping if they do such a crime in that country. We can easily implement this in Karachi, if people are willing to show some patience and respect of law. Look what happened to the anti pollution (anti auto emmision) thing that was started earlier this year.

    BTW, any updates on the KFC that was next to Urdu college (where people with disabilities were serving)?

    I hope and wish and make dua that things get better in Karachi so that we can get more economic growth and safer life in my good old town of Kulachi.


  15. Bozz (unregistered) on November 7th, 2006 @ 11:39 am

    Like I said before on this blog, Dua ‘Prayer’ won’t help. If anything at all will make a difference it will haveto come from US.

    As for what you said why would people come to Karachi in specific, and Pakistan in general, to invest, I could not agree with you more. However you omitted to add India together with Dubai and China as their preferred landing zones!

    It is true that no Western carrier comes to Karachi. Can you blame (one thing that we excel in) them?

    I have been traveling for years out of Dubai. When you have to think in terms of traveling Westwards your journey starts from UAE. To compound that, now PIA, our ‘beloved’ national carrier has been served with notices from EU for poor maintenance of their aircrafts and not allowed to land in EU with those planes.

    It is a free world, or supposed to be, so you are at liberty to construe that restriction as another episode of a conspiracy against Pakistan. Anything goes except our share of the responsibility.

    What you have written above is just the tip of the iceberg as far as crimes in this city are concerned. Much of which goes un-reported. There are kidnapping, murder, rape, extortion, black mail, robberies, corruption and plain ‘badmashi’.

    Walls are getting higher, spikes are getting sharper, guards are becoming a norm, guns are part of everyday life.

    When you park your car and walk away, you do not know upon your return, if you will find your car where you had left it, and if you do find it, whether the music system will still be in there. You cannot walk any where in peace from dangers both crimanls and social gondas!

    Let us not even begin to talk of women in our society. The only place where you feel relatively save with them is indoors.

    No drainage systems, no water even in so called posh areas of the city. Polluted and dirty by any standards, plastic bags all around, stinking, pan ‘peeps’ (spit) adorning our roads and walls, dusty, noisy, hot and humid, lawless traffic, electricity cuts, smog, blaring mosque speakers, dengue, rabid dogs.. must I go on?

    I really fail to understand how anyone could love this city for what it is and has become. Except if you have not known or have seen anything better.

    Solutions : NONE

    Futuristic Solutions : Cap the reproduction and educate, educate and educate.

    Lastly XIA, Do not get me wrong also, “I love Karachi to death” – please don’t. For this city could realistically be the cause of your death!


  16. Faisal (unregistered) on November 7th, 2006 @ 5:07 pm

    @xia

    About the airlines bit, well, always travelling to Karachi from Los Angeles via the Pacific, I can tell you that Thai airways and Cathay Pacific do have flights to Karachi. I’m not really sure about the European airlines.


  17. ash (unregistered) on November 8th, 2006 @ 2:34 am

    Can karachi get even better? The only reservation i have is the huge law and order situation which must be addressed. Apart from that i think the city has and will make a lot of economic progress.
    Bozz if the only way karachi could improve was by european or us investment then you’d be right. We would never be able to compete.
    But even Sudan in the middle of its Darfur crisis being ostracised by nearly all western nations is actually improving economically. Sudan can thank its economic advisers and investments by China and the middle east who are hugely interested in investing here.
    I dont mean to minimize Darfur its a horrible horrible thing. But global economics are no longer europen/ US dependant. We will have a million opportunities, we just need to stabilise first.
    Its a good thing foreign airlines dont fly here, we can barely protect ourselves much less them.


  18. Nader (unregistered) on November 10th, 2006 @ 10:25 pm

    Well, I have no one else to blame other than Karachiites for its uncleanliness. I used to live in Karachi until 1987. It was much cleaner back then. I recently visited in 2004 and greatlt dissappointed with its up keep and waste management.
    I guess cleanliness begins from home then galli, mohala and city. There is a need for increased awareness among family members, colleagues and friends.


  19. Bozz (unregistered) on November 12th, 2006 @ 6:23 pm

    Ash,

    And how do we achieve the state of stability?

    And I do not agree with you where Pakistan’s economy is concerned. As is well known we are where we are, that is to say in a relatively better position, only due to American and European aid that flowed in post 9/11 when Pakistan agreed to play ball.

    Remove this cushion from the equation and I am not sure that we would not fall on our face!

    Once again, we cannot achieve anything unless we control our rampant growing population of un-educated people.

    My two bits.


  20. ash (unregistered) on November 13th, 2006 @ 2:25 am

    bozz
    we need education. we need population control. no debate on those things. All i am saying is that the world is economically better adjusted, so europe and america do not hold the keys to the door anymore.
    We can progress without being anglicised, but ofcourse we have loads of hurdles to cross. Some of which you mentioned, some of which i mentioned.
    How do you achieve stability? i think the first step is irradicating blood lust and replacing it with tolerance. That could take a while but karachi despite all its violence has had a core population which is strongly protolerance and hopefully will get better represented in the future.



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