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Aah politics! Merging it up with religion….
I saw this banner the same day the bill was approved. Was it already known? Or the “bhai log” got it done right after the approval???

44 Comments so far

  1. Yahya (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 12:25 am

    Bill is a positive step in the right direction. If bhai log are involved so much the better. We need all the support we can get to free up you ladies. :)

    BTW, saw your pic on the new(?) site. You pretty thing, keep up all the good work.


  2. Sa'ad (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 12:31 am

    What does that SOB has to do with that law?


  3. Yahya (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 12:35 am

    “What does that SOB has to do with that law?”

    I am guessing you are not voting for him any time soon? :)


  4. ash (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 1:20 am

    Guys this is a monumental achievement for pakistan. Lets not sour the moment with irrelevance. The parties who we should all thank for their efforts are the army, mqm and ppp. They even put their internal animosity aside to work for this. As far as I am concerned let there be more banners.


  5. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 1:22 am

    Bibi sex,religion and politics are always interlinked with each other. I think this is something which you have learnt recently.


  6. Chun Sun Lee (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 1:35 am

    everyone i know (even from khi) is against MQM and thinks that they are bunch of badmaash log, bhatta khor and their leader Altaf Hussain is a comedian @#$@#$ n blah blah and yet they are able to win seats in every elections. HOW?

    After listening to his speeches its really hard to believe that any reasonable human being can vote for that clwon. Can anybody explain if hundreds of thousands of people, who supposedly vote for MQM, are in favor of bhatta, badmaashi and they actually vote for a clown? seriously i want an answer if anyone can please! what really makes people vote for MQM, if they really do?


  7. SS (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 2:58 am

    Chun Sun Lee , I am not so anxious to hear him. Do you suggest any good site?? Or anyone perhaps?


  8. SS (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 3:00 am

    that makes me comedian, I AM anxious!! pardon my mistake :)


  9. turab (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 3:51 am

    lets give credit where its due to Mushi (ma hero), PPP, MQM and ANP…..

    It is a definite step in the right direction!


  10. ash (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 3:58 am

    greetings chun sun,
    I realise you are not from here. The karachi love affair with mqm is hard to understand if you dont understand its genesis.

    Personally i am anti ethnic politics but it is the norm in pakistan. Most people in karachi are ‘muhajir’ but thats the only reason.

    Mqm has made some serious mistakes in its history, and has become synonymous with violence which is certainly bad. Non violent movements cant really succeed in this city however.

    Their basic stated agenda is pro education, pro womens rights, pro middle class and pro progress.
    They are seen as protectors against feudals, tribals, mullahs and zardari at least ideologically. They could certainly work on execution a little more but at this point in many peoples minds they are the best we have.


  11. ash (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 4:11 am

    correction thats “not” the only reason


  12. AalooTinda (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 4:47 am

    how long do you think it takes to make a cheap ugly banner like that? 15 to 30 minutes?

    By the way Altaf is simply to ugly to represent a beautiful country like PK. I think he should marry a Russian girl immediately for the sake of nations future. By the way I think he might have placed that banner himself…


  13. Mona (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 5:26 am

    What bill are we talking about here? *confused*


  14. Yahya (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 6:03 am

    Mona, its the new women rights bill. What else? Did you sleep all last week?


  15. suhail (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 8:04 am

    As far MQM is concerned… i would say, lets keep City Nazim, and the likes of him… the big leader..well i love him as long as he is in england.(I would also love if BB and NS, also get green cards and stay there, and present the soft-image of Pakistan ;) ).The other “still only mahajar” MQM, shall be banned, mutahida has the real support. Karachi cant afford ethenic politics anymore..


  16. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 8:57 am


    What bill are we talking about here? *confused*

    Bijli ka.


  17. MB (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 9:18 am

    Suhail is very right. Keep the dirty lot away. The mohajir’s in Khi should now look towards alternatives and they do have bunch of them. The best thing about them is they represent the middle class section and they sure will find some human-type leaders rather than the ones they have now, the badmaash as they are known. Mustafa Kamal can be one option for the time being. Altaf bhai should be asked to do “Allah Allah” with a tasbeeh in his hand.


  18. Mariam (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 9:31 am

    What Altaf (A British citizen by choice) know about Pakistani women sufferings. Why MQM followers are so stupid that they still follow this integrity less man?


  19. MB (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 9:39 am

    Suhail is very right. Keep the dirty lot away. The mohajir’s in Khi should now look towards alternatives and they do have bunch of them. The best thing about them is they represent the middle class section and they sure will find some human-type leaders rather than the ones they have now, the badmaash as they are known. Mustafa Kamal can be one option for the time being. Altaf bhai should be asked to do “Allah Allah” with a tasbeeh in his hand.


  20. unaiza nasim (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 10:32 am

    @chun sun lee: yes I can!
    I have known these people very closely, how? forget that!
    When they pay bengalis and other poor people and rent buses to provide conveyance to these poor people to come and vote, why wont they win?
    “Everything” here is on sale. Its all a money game.
    (Where this money comes from is another good debate)


  21. unaiza nasim (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 10:39 am

    @ Mariam: I agree with you.
    When these women are harrassed by their man where are they??
    Bash them infront of audience and later in private they are praised.
    I have witnessed such cases myself.


  22. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 11:00 am


    What Altaf (A British citizen by choice) know about Pakistani women sufferings. Why MQM followers are so stupid that they still follow this integrity less man?

    *nods* ,Actually same thing applies on Musharraf[a turkish kid] and oters as well. Between Altaf and Women reminds me Zareen Majeed. I wonder whether she exists or not?


    The mohajir’s in Khi should now look towards alternatives and they do have bunch of them

    Like?


    what really makes people vote for MQM, if they really do?

    Yaar Chun Maahi because they don’t have any other choice. In karachi there are two main forces, mqm and Jamat-Islami and both suck big time. By the way I voted for Imran khan in last election.

    Well one likes it or not but Altaf was accepted more than Jinnah in karachi back in late 80s and early 90s[ I know our local punjabis would have pissed after reading this but int’l media of that time also admitted it]. I remember that he used to say “Khamosh” and whole crowd[around one/two million+] used to become ‘dead souls’; pin drop silence.

    The guy truly missed the chance to take advantage of such heavy vote bank otherwise He could do much better than any other outsider parties like PPP or PML


  23. ash (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 11:17 am

    Guys i dont think you get it. MQM PPP and the army ALREADY GOT THE BILL PASSED. If they want to celebrate then please let them.

    All politicians are inherently gunda’s. When a bunch of angels start a political party in karachi i’d be the first to vote for them, till then its MQM. (mutahida) – the “non ethnic” one.


  24. ash (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 11:32 am

    Unaiza with all due respect please tell me which ethnicity/political party treats women better? Which one is less corrupt? Sounds like you know the inner workings of the mqm but you are a stranger to every other parties dirty deeds.

    And mariam, again with respect, if you can tell me what you’ve done to improve pakistans womens rights issues i’d love to hear it. Otherwise let someone else do it. Doesnt matter if they are british, muhajir, blind or transvestite.


  25. Mona (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 12:12 pm

    @Yahya,

    Thanks heaps mate…

    well how do I know about some bill being passed there, living so far :P


  26. Ramla A. (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 12:45 pm

    On a side note, it is always “already known.” Political parties are not naive, if they are asleep, they are dead. These things are not news to them; many in the “corridors of power” know well ahead of time what’s going to happen, or at least the range of alternatives.

    People are the last to know things.

    About time we incorporate a study of politics and our constitution in the curriculum instead of the “Be Pakistani, Buy Pakistani” essays we grew up reading in “Pakistan Studies.” Lahole-wila-qooat!


  27. Yousuf (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 3:12 pm

    @Chun Sun Lee
    Its called mass mind control.


  28. ali Mohsin (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 4:03 pm

    If there is one political party that speaks of against feudal lords, landlords, against karo kari, rights for the province, against extremism, it is not ppp, neither pml, let alone jamaat. Its only mqm!
    city nazim is from the same party and after all doing a million times better (though HUGE room for imrpovement)than what BB or NAWAZ did. (if they did nething…cant remember a flyover in kar by these two). not saying they are the best ……. but atleast they seem to have the ideology right!


  29. unaiza nasim (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 8:58 pm

    @ASH: I did not say anyone works better, but yes, I have not seen so many banners on every other turn then, bosing about things done.
    And about indvidual deeds, I better not speak about it.


  30. ash (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 10:58 pm

    thanks unaiza :)


  31. Original-Anon (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 10:59 pm

    Unaiza darling, it is ‘boasting’ and not ‘bosing’; I am pointing it out because this is not the first time you’ve made this error.


  32. Karachi Mafia (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 11:37 pm

    You guyz know that after this bill you can have sex w/out marriage and not get punised for it !


  33. d0ct0r (unregistered) on November 22nd, 2006 @ 12:31 am

    @Karachi Mafia it was already being done, with or without this bill those involved were never punished…

    As for this brit(Altaf) if you listen to his speech once you’ll feel like vomiting , guaranteed…

    lemme quote some thing amazing Altaf said “I run my party with the help of the telephone”

    This guy even did’nt spared his own brother Nasir Hussein who was unhappy with his involvement in terrorist activities.. killed thousands of innocent people brutally and ruthlessly … he is a bloody murderer, can’t even deserve to be called politician by any means..

    Just read what United Nation HCR thinks about this terrorist party(MQM) ….
    http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/home/opendoc.htm?tbl=RSDCOI&page=research&id=414fe5aa4

    factsheet on Federation of american scientists’s webite
    http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/mqm_factsheet.htm

    another interesting story from bbcurdu
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/story/2006/10/061005_punjab_mqm_si.shtml


  34. d0ct0r (unregistered) on November 22nd, 2006 @ 12:43 am

    @unaiza “they RENT buses to provide conveyance to these poor people to come and vote”

    well they don’t rent those buses… they just take them by force and threats each route operator has to put aside the number of busses that they need otherwise they’ll burn them on spot and no one can do anything about it… it happens in all the rallies and public gathering organised by MQM… on normal routes as well bus operators are forced to carry these thugs and mqm supporters and hoist MQM flags on their buses and vehicles otherwise face the consequences…


  35. d0ct0r (unregistered) on November 22nd, 2006 @ 12:57 am

    when ever there is a mqm rally workers from all public sector institutions like KESC PTCL KWSB CitiGovt KBCA Habib Bank etc etc and all the other organisations which have mqm unions ,all these organistaions are closed for work and they just load all these people in busses and take them to the venue …


  36. Mariam (unregistered) on November 22nd, 2006 @ 6:44 am

    Ash,

    what you’ve done to improve pakistans womens rights issues i’d love to hear it

    Not enough but I’m not asking people to give me their trust, money and vote so I can benefit from it personally while leaving them behind to fend for themselves.

    Most of my family members were MQM supporter and some of them still are. I don’t like communal politics so I’ve always preferred national parties. I know MQM has got their act together but don’t we allow to call spade a spade. Altaf is a politician and I didn’t get it that, why people still believe in him as he left them for better life. In my eyes he lost respect when he applied for non Pakistani citizenship. He stabbed his followers when MQM workers routinely come to collect battha from shops and businesses from the same people who voluntarily gave them their money. At that time most of businessmen transferred to else where. I was a student at Karachi University where MQM workers snatches our exam papers and tore it. Due to those senseless acts my entire batch was lagged behind several years compare to our counterparts in other provinces. First Zia discriminated us and when Karachiites trusted their leader then he back stabbed them with Hartal calls from London. His future is safe in a western country where people know their priorities but poor people of Karachi are suffering as they don’t have a noble Leader. Now come to the celebrations, why they have to do it on a working day. MQM is run by our people but they don’t behave like it. Victim card can’t go very far as most of the time they are in control of the Karachi. I still don’t get it why MQM went as low as the people who have votes don’t need to do street politics.

    BTW maybe I’m biased as I’ve heard Altaf’s speech personally and at time his favorite speech content was “xxx graphic description of Benazir and Asif ‘s copulation where Benazir is the man”. Now I can understand political rivalries but disrespecting someone because they belong to different sex is not a part of my dictionary.


  37. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on November 22nd, 2006 @ 8:11 am

    Ash, instead of asking her or other women’s achivements for women rights and for Pakistanis, I ask you what have you done at your end? Tell me why re you[ A foji’s daughter] not in Pakistan to serve pakistanis rather sitting thousands of miles away and making hollow statments? Does it mean that Foji officials are also like Qazi Hussain? send others children for Jihad and to fight Wazirstan people and save their own kids and send them away for studies?
    These political molvis and military people are same and I agree with kashif’s terminology ‘molvi military alliance[MMA]’, so true!


  38. ash (unregistered) on November 22nd, 2006 @ 9:15 am

    Mariam, i think thats valid. If you are saying altaf’s speeches are too crude for human consumption then you are probably right. I still think their presence and policies have benefited karachi and particularly women but ofcourse its debatable whether that excuses them from the other stuff.
    Adnan, believe it or not i have zero interest in impressing you with my c.v. I’ll just say that actually i do work in a humanitarian field and i can definately say i’ve helped loads of people many in Pakistan many outside.


  39. ash (unregistered) on November 22nd, 2006 @ 9:25 am

    Karachi mafia you should really get an education.


  40. ash (unregistered) on November 22nd, 2006 @ 9:26 am

    Karachi mafia you should really get an education. I hope that in some part of your mind you do recognize the difference btw rape and adultery.


  41. Adnan (unregistered) on November 22nd, 2006 @ 10:02 am

    Ash, who’s talking about your educational background? sitting out of Pakistan and preachig to others to do in favor of Pakistan is pretty lame. Its really pathetic that our politicians and military people send their own kids in US etc to have a quality life and use locals for their own intrest and make their life hell.


  42. ash (unregistered) on November 22nd, 2006 @ 10:35 am

    Actually just to bring you upto speed I am not a “kid” and i was not telling you about my “education”. I am also not “preaching” infact I am anti “preaching”.


  43. unaiza nasim (unregistered) on November 22nd, 2006 @ 11:50 am

    @ Doctor: I agree, thaks for correcting.


  44. Jamal Shamsi (unregistered) on November 25th, 2006 @ 6:35 pm

    Foji or no Foji – These Mullahs are lame, they go only after money – The only difference between MMA Stalwerths is – QAZI and HAFIZ rest of the stuff remains the same WOLF in SHEEP SKIN.

    Insanyat kay na par Dhubba these Mulla’s turn politician & vice versa



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