25,000 ? Not enough

If you ever would read this news anywhere else & tell anyone people would laugh at you for making a bad joke. But this is our land of shocks. And they come more often these days. For those who gave us lengthy lectures here may well do a re-think. As they say actions speak louder than words. We needed not to wait for weeks before a humiliation would become the destiny of the people behind this Idea of Ideas2006. We can write lengthy lecture here, making fun of Mush & Co on whatever happened but we need not to as the links speak for themselves. A letter to the editor is worth reading here

Pegasus Consulting (this is for bro Adnan) may or may not benefit but the bandits sure did. If this statement by one of the victim is not a proof of the suffering we highlighted previously then what else we are awaiting. “”They committed the crime with such impunity making us feel that all the security was only for VVIPs”, the victim complained ”

And if this was not enough to notice for our Pro-Ideas2006 fellows, what about this and this. We at KMB try to portray Karachi as it is, good or bad. If reality is difficult to look at you can go to any coffee shop at Clifton and imagine yourself in Dubai or London or you can switch onto Lux style awards kind of thing but let us bring out the truth. Our history tells us they will sure do nothing about it and will have Ideas 2008 again at the same place next time. People will come up and say that we are pessimistic but if reality is such why we opt to be an ostrich. 25,000 did not prove enough. What figure we can expect next time?

The bottom line : Citizens should take care themselves. If with all the road shuts, shops close, & with so much concentrated security they are unable to save us, only Spider man can.

28 Comments so far

  1. Saqib (unregistered) on November 22nd, 2006 @ 8:08 pm

    Ideas !!!! it would be interesting to know who got the idea to get metro cabs on rent and plaster them with police stickers for the expo .. another attempt to pull a fast one over visiting VIPs … sad that our so called leaders are a part of this deception so blatantly


  2. Adnan (unregistered) on November 22nd, 2006 @ 10:26 pm

    are u sure about this metro cab thing ???
    i thought they are the highway patrol cars !!!


  3. Ahmed (unregistered) on November 22nd, 2006 @ 10:39 pm

    yeah as far as i know they are the highway patrol cars though they do resemble with the white metro cabs


  4. d0ct0r (unregistered) on November 22nd, 2006 @ 11:59 pm

    its simply halarious to say the least… all these foreign dignitaries also read english newpaper of the city they’re visit and so much for the impression and projection of this city as a safe place… i guess the citizen already knew it all and now the whole world knows it… lemme again repeat my comment that i made on similar post earlier…

    Arms exhibition doesn’t belong here in the center of the city… it should have either been conducted at some remote place like cholistan desert or some military base like PNS Mehran outside Karachi… the excuse the Military leaders could come up is that its coz of the dignitaries and VIPs lodging(5 star hotels) that we had to conduct it all in karachi, well for heavens sake go and build a 6 star hotel at pns mehran offcourse tax payers money will be spent on it but what about tax payers money being wasted on 30,000 security personnel(and what message are we giving to foreign dignitaries that we need 30,000 securityman to suppress our people for the sake of your security) ,elaborate security arrangements, inconviniance caused to comman men , loss of work(offices closed early-civic center closed-educational institutions closed) i mean they can build a hotel on that base, either can airlift the dignitaries from airport using choppers or can directly use the airstrip on pns mehran , after all ITS NOT A PUBLIC EXHIBITION so there seems to be no justification in conducting it in the center of the city.. or maybe the dictator could use video link and using the sattellite video conferencing technology he could
    virtually visit these type of events..

    honestly they can put up a better show under the controlled envoirment(military bases) and won’t have to incur high cost on safety of these high profile visitors…
    I don’t oppose these arms exhibition, i believe that we should export value added products as much as we can to earn much needed foreign currency BUT
    here in this case citizens of karachi are being treated like 2nd class citizens by these military man all in the name of securing the venue…


  5. Khurram Farooq (unregistered) on November 23rd, 2006 @ 12:25 am

    Just an observation: IDEAS is held every 2 years, so there will be no IDEAS 2007.


  6. ash (unregistered) on November 23rd, 2006 @ 12:34 am

    This reminds me of the dubai dream cruise. MB it was messy and yes i am a little shocked at the brazon hold ups. We might still have made money out of it and again no one died which by itself is a success story. Glass half full.


  7. d0ct0r (unregistered) on November 23rd, 2006 @ 12:53 am

    and i have a feeling that next one in 2008 would be held at lahore expo or at some military base..


  8. d0ct0r (unregistered) on November 23rd, 2006 @ 12:58 am

    hmm we’re talking about that dream cruise again… well read BBC’s review about it

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/story/2006/11/061122_dream_cruise_wusat_ra.shtml


  9. Saqib (unregistered) on November 23rd, 2006 @ 6:12 am

    They most definitely are metro cabs on rental to the Police.


  10. MB (unregistered) on November 23rd, 2006 @ 7:47 am

    Thanks Khurram : Correction has been made.


  11. MB (unregistered) on November 23rd, 2006 @ 8:56 am

    Here is one more news to add salt to the wound


  12. ChmpooNath Ghosley (unregistered) on November 23rd, 2006 @ 8:58 am

    @Khurram: It means they release patches[Service Packs] of their weapons after every two years? :-)


  13. MB (unregistered) on November 23rd, 2006 @ 9:27 am

    ” two of the suspects were in police uniform. ”

    Police ka farz madad aap kee. They better dont do it.


  14. Concerned (unregistered) on November 23rd, 2006 @ 2:09 pm

    I have read everyones complaints but I still think the Expo should be held in Karachi. The whole idea of the thing is not to just sell arms and ammunition. Foreign dignitaries coming to Karachi for a week and not being killed also presents an image of the country. Foreigners need to feel safe in our cities if we are to progress economically.

    Karachi is by far the most developed city in the country. It needs to presented well.

    Just incase someone says that the security situation in Karachi is not good and foreign dignitaries can read that in the newspapers, then please get up and look all over the world. Muggings and car jackings are quite common in big cities.

    I am sorry for the people who live around the Expo centre but you have to take one for the country. Its just one week. If you cant take it then move but stop complaining.

    We as a nation like to complain. Please learn to be happy with what you have, most people dont even have that much. Work around your problems, there is always a way.


  15. d0ct0r (unregistered) on November 23rd, 2006 @ 3:12 pm

    @Concerned yea the whole idea was to tell the foreign diginitaries that we need 30000 security man to keep you protected and would even go on to humiliate our own citizen and cause misery and hardship to them so that you just feel secure and still we can’t prevent you from getting robbed or mugged… So much for the image of the city and country…. in such a fortified evoirment this exhibition is being held , there was no excuse for it to be conducted in the center of the city and cause inconvenience to the citizen … in the rest of the civilized world their government don’t even dare to do any thing that’ll cause misery to its own people and when ever some thing the causes inconvenience and hardship to general public then voices are raised aginst it… its a norm for civilized people and you want us not to even complain! …

    @MB you forgot to mention this link
    “Whose bright idea was this?”
    http://www.dawn.com/2006/11/23/letted.htm#4


  16. Concerned (unregistered) on November 23rd, 2006 @ 4:09 pm

    @ Doctor

    These are hard times. With this whole terrorism bug going around and Pakistan being at the centre of all terrorism, we have to take extra precautions. We did need 30000 personnel to help with security and I am sure the dignitaries understand that their security is important to us. The deginitaries feel they can work with us and thats good.

    As far as complaining goes, thts all that ever happens on this blog. Thats all you people do. A guy gets robbed he comes here and cries about, someone gets stuck in traffic they come here and write about it.

    I have been to blogs of other cities too, maybe i missed it but I didnt see alot of people complaining about traffic and muggings. Like I said before this is not just something that happens in Khi.

    If you are so terrified of being robbed on the street carry a pistol with you. I hate to generalise but it feels like us Pakis are impatient and lazy. Dont like it when things arent going our way and wont do anything about it.

    Get out of this whole negative attitude please.


  17. AzarDeys (unregistered) on November 23rd, 2006 @ 9:45 pm

    @Concerned:
    Quote: “If you are so terrified of being robbed on the street carry a pistol with you… Dont like it when things arent going our way and wont do anything about it.”

    Couldn’t agree more! Most big cities like Rio or Johannesburg (even NYC up until the mid-90s) have almost the same issues. But people do take up arms and try to protect what is theirs. It amazes me how docile us Karachiites are – we simply bend over and let them in. I know that most of these “bandits” are young men driven by their socio-economic situation and don’t blame them 100% for their desperation, but if we were armed, at least that would be a deterrent and would make them think twice. My law-abiding father laughs whenever I suggest this vigilante justice scheme, but is there a better solution?


  18. d0ct0r (unregistered) on November 23rd, 2006 @ 10:56 pm

    police is already armed , thugs are also armed(carrying sophisticated weapons) now you want the innocent public also to carry arm… it’ll be a complete chaos… what you want, a civil war in here?
    i was just pointing out that all over the civilized world no government causes hardship ,misery and humiliation to its own people in the name of protecting the foreign deginitaries…

    ever heard of world economic forum? Davos Switzerland … from the world richest to most powerful president to military dictators all are invited and there is unprecedented security for them but you’ve noticed one thing? it not held in populous cities like Berne, Geneva or Z√ºrich its venue is far away from cities the mountain resort town of davos… they could easily conduct it all in Geneva? well they don’t coz they don’t want to cause any inconvenience to its own public…


  19. MB (unregistered) on November 24th, 2006 @ 9:33 am

    How silly people get when they compare things. They do not even understand what’s the point that is being highlighted.

    We are not highlighting traffic, nor arms and not that DAVOS kind of things. Please for GOD sake spare some time reading threads first. People pick up one line, that too out of context and start arguing on it.


  20. d0ct0r (unregistered) on November 24th, 2006 @ 12:57 pm

    WEF Davos example was cited just to highlight that in the rest of the world governments care for their own public and don’t want them to suffer, whereas here the dictator and advisors are oblivious to the public suffering


  21. Concerned (unregistered) on November 24th, 2006 @ 2:42 pm

    I would please prefer if Mushy wasnt called a dictator. Me like a lot of people support MOST of his policies and he is there because the public want him there.


  22. MB (unregistered) on November 24th, 2006 @ 3:34 pm

    Dear concerned,
    We respect your views about Mushy. We also do often agree with his policies. But he does dictate, technically, doesn’t he ?. It’s another aspect if that dictation is for good or bad. But that’s it, its dictation and so he is a dictator.


  23. Concerned (unregistered) on November 24th, 2006 @ 5:46 pm

    Dear MB

    I agree that he dictates, but in some dictionaries it means tormentor or bully. He has an authoritarian way of doing things but I think he is neither of the above. You might have a different view.

    That is why I dont want to call Mushy a dictator.


  24. d0ct0r (unregistered) on November 24th, 2006 @ 10:17 pm

    @Concerned

    let me try to explain it with a very simple example… the watchman(guard) sitting at your door one day wakes up and think that he is the only one carrying weapon,so using his weapon he goes on rampage and kicks you out of the home… and later on starts calling himself the owner of the home and go on to become a reputable and pious person in the neighbourhood and society, poors of the neighbourhood are all praise for him coz he is spending YOUR money on them …… what will you think of such a person?


  25. Concerned (unregistered) on November 25th, 2006 @ 6:54 am

    Doctor

    Why do you enjoy comparing things? Seriously why? What you said has very little to do with what is actually happening.


  26. ash (unregistered) on November 25th, 2006 @ 8:27 am

    Given our tremendous success with ‘Democracy” i think its no insult to call someone a dictator in pakistan. The only other fitting words to describe any ‘leader” we have had in the last 20 years include terrorist, torturer, criminal and psycho.


  27. Jamal Shamsi (unregistered) on November 25th, 2006 @ 1:12 pm

    Guess what ?

    One of 4 Helicopter models from Our stall were missing. Since it was a Model of Military Model, our foreign delegate immediately reported it missing and a message was relayed by security on wirless.

    The best Part – It was found in the hands of a 7 year old boy son of a Brigadier from Islamabad, the boy was escorted by a MP constable. When asked upon he said BEGUM SAHEB nai yeah Khilona Utha kar baba ko deya tha, – apka hai tou Begum saheb sai poch kar wapas lai layn.

    Our delegate snapped the foto immediately, with MP guarding the boy and helicopter in his hand., not willing to return.

    It took us 6 hours and a written complaint filed with foto to get that piece of TOY back.

    Who we are ?????


  28. MB (unregistered) on November 25th, 2006 @ 10:03 pm

    Interesting one Jamal. Whats the answer ?



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