Grass is greener on the otherside

Lately, i’ve posted quite a few posts on various criminal activities in the city. One recurrent theme in the comments section of each was comparision to various other cities of the world, and how life was much ‘safer’ there. Go through various other cities on the metblogs network (large cities like London and NYC) and you’ll see a lot of crime related posts there. Real world occurences to real world people.

In Karachi, atleast we’re not physically abused by Security Personnel on a daily basis. Check out this post on NYC and how barbaric security agencies there work sometimes.

“About one hour ago I was walking down Washington Place and at the corner of Avenue of the Americas, an SUV pulled up onto the sidewalk right in front of me. Two guys jumped out, maybe three, I was kind of in shock. The doors were open and the engine running. They threw a man onto the sidewalk and jumped on top of him. People all stopped and gathered a bit closer, unsettled and staring at the guys and at the SUV. More cop-like guys gathered in, none of them in uniform but most of them with walkie-talkies.”

Another experience in the comments section..

“a scene I witnessed a few times in Hell’s Kitchen. Van rushes up, 10 massive cops start throwing people to the ground and they’re gone inside of 5 minutes. Violent and confusing.”

and

“I once had a cop bang my head into a wall for asking questions like you did. The Sgt who eventually showed up wouldn’t even acknowledge my complaint.”

9 Comments so far

  1. Kumail (unregistered) on December 1st, 2006 @ 6:37 pm

    This really is an inane argument mansoor. I am a die hard Karachite but I wouldnt ever compare the city with London or NYC. Even within the realms of safety and security both these cities are by far ahead of Karachi. Where you have mentioned occasional police excesses, you failed to recognize the policing procedures in place in these cities for common people.
    I think you and all others out there who continue to compare Karachi with other major metropolis of the world need to recognize that there are several social and infrastructural issues that need to be addressed before Karachi can stand shoulder to shoulder with the likes of NYC or London. I think its going in the right direction and hopefully in a decade or maybe two it can be there but at the moment its just an unfair comparisons.


  2. ash (unregistered) on December 1st, 2006 @ 10:38 pm

    Unfortunately you cant compare law and order in karachi to any other place. Talking about the police in america though they have it hard. Crime in some ghetto areas is out of control, maybe comparable to karachi. So they have to react to avoid being killed, and often they overreact, killing innocents and get shamed big time.
    Its better to be a poor dark skinned paki then a poor dark skinned american when it comes to police brutality.


  3. anon_again (unregistered) on December 2nd, 2006 @ 3:15 am

    NYC is quite ok as compared to say L.A. or Chicago or even DC. The transit system is grt… ppl are out and about even quite late since atleast in the financial sector, late hours (U.S. hours…!!!) are the norm. Much safer than Khi any day… ofcourse, Nyc also has a few areas where one needs to just be sensible!


  4. Captain's Log (unregistered) on December 2nd, 2006 @ 6:46 am

    You do not understand the difference my friend. The cops could do in US what ever they want but then later they can’t get away. If they exceed their limits then they have to pay back and no one would come to save them. This is a fair society and I know one thing that unless I am involved in some crime/terror activity, I am safe here.

    I used to live in Chicago down town few years ago and there were always few mob cases in a month but no on ever get injured seriously. In 2004 I could exactly recall they said on local TV that it was the first day of the year when some one get killed in Chicago and you know what? It was the first week of February. I was so surprised because every one had impression that Chicago down town is not save. Like Anon thinks Chicago down town is not save even he is in US :-).


  5. Faisal (unregistered) on December 2nd, 2006 @ 7:09 am

    “down town is not save. Like Anon thinks Chicago down town is not save even…….”

    save = safe

    Los Angeles is not that bad. But, then again, all the years I’ve been here, it’s been in suburbia, right by the beach.

    Karachi is Karachi……never a dull moment.


  6. Captain's Log (unregistered) on December 2nd, 2006 @ 9:06 am

    Thanks Faisal, I must be very tired I guess when I left that comment :-). I was in LA last week end and it’s a cool place but San Deigo is much better ;-)


  7. turab (unregistered) on December 2nd, 2006 @ 12:22 pm

    I would suggest you to watch a persian american student being tasered like hell in Univ’s library just becuase he failed to show his id card…

    Mind Boggling stuff and definitely plus 14 rating due to swears..

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=AyvrqcxNIFs


  8. anon_again (unregistered) on December 2nd, 2006 @ 9:16 pm

    @Captain: don’t know a whole lot about chicago … have a couple of friends there. do know ppl who have lived in both places … that’s how i came to feel that nyc is a lot safer than chicago.


  9. ash (unregistered) on December 3rd, 2006 @ 3:31 am

    Manhattan is safer than chicago, not bronx/queens/brooklyn/harlem which are also considered nyc.

    Agree with captain , the justice system in US is the difference between violence there and violence here.



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