Comments on: 20 year aged Whiskey anyone?

By: kq

kq — Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:40:43 +0000

u guys are judgemental kids with no exposure to comment on how there shouldnt be any alcohol here.

By: BoZz

BoZz — Sun, 11 Feb 2007 02:32:18 +0000

Where in the Koran is Haram used for Wine? Pray tell me Ahmad?

By: ash

ash — Tue, 06 Feb 2007 11:53:38 +0000

i agree that everyone should say what they believe in.
Its worth noting that noone ever banned smoking when smoking was thought to only hurt the smoker. All those smoking bans came into effect exclusively to protect people in the service industry from second hand smoke.

By: wasiq

wasiq — Tue, 06 Feb 2007 09:44:26 +0000

yaar yeah pani(water) wali gup toh pucki hai naa…you never know when they hire me believing that i don’t…lol

PS: yeah toh bahut kam hai hasb-ay muratib mein toh bahut mushkil ho jai gi…aisa karlo barroun ko aik aik chotoun ko doh doh…how is that..?

By: Ahmad

Ahmad — Tue, 06 Feb 2007 05:05:47 +0000

For a muslim nothing can be more rational than a solid reference from Koran or Hadith. Religion is the only reason it is not allowed to be sold in Pakistan. If you want to leave religion aside, what is the point of discussion? Non muslims are already allowed to buy alcohol.
Recently France even banned public smoking. In Germany at most public places its already banned. Alcohol isnt sold to person aged below 18. Every country has its laws to ban whatever it consider harmful so whats a problem with laws in Pakistan.

By: Kamran

Kamran — Tue, 06 Feb 2007 00:15:25 +0000

JAYJAY What hypocrisy! You want to say whatevers on your mind but you don’t want others to speak their mind-be it religion or else.

By: JayJay

JayJay — Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:33:18 +0000

@Ahmad: Religion as the Last Refuge of the Scoundrel. Let us leave the religion out of this debate. We are not examining the merits of religious injunctions here. Do present if you have any rational point.

By: Ahmad

Ahmad — Mon, 05 Feb 2007 08:53:06 +0000

if you are muslim isn’t it enough for you to know it is clearly mentioned haram by Quran and Prophet (SAW)?

“Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 2776 Narrated by Anas ibn Malik

Allah’s Messenger (saws) invoked the curse of Allah on ten people in connection with wine: the wine-presser, the one who has it pressed, the one who drinks it, the one who conveys it, the one to whom it is conveyed, the one who serves it, the one who sells it, the one who benefits from the price paid for it, the one who buys it, and the one for whom it is bought.”

By: Saad Durrani

Saad Durrani — Mon, 05 Feb 2007 04:38:36 +0000

First, drinking is a personal choice. Smoking is hazardous as well as Ecstasy but is it prohibited? No. For some, maybe.

Drinking has been a social thing. Hafeez Jalendari, the creator of our national anthem writes these words in legendary “Abhi tu mein Jawan Hoon”:

kahaaN chalaa hai saaqiyaa, idhar to lauT idhar to aa
arey, yeh dekhtaa hai kyaa? uThaa subuu, subuu uThaa
subuu uThaa, piyaalaa bhar, piyaalaa bhar ke de idhar
chaman ki simt kar nazar, samaaN to dekh bekHabar

Translantion:
Where is that Bartender? Return back, come here
What are you pondering upon? Pick that wine-pitcher
Pick the wine-pitcher, fill the cup, let the cup be sent here
Have a look, the scene can’t be better.

Moreover, he says:
na may me.n kuchh kamii rahe, kadaa se hamadamii rahe
nishast ye jamii rahe, yahii hamaa.n hamii.n rahe

The wine shouldn’t be incomplete, let me be friends with winery,
Let the party continue, let there be (this kind of) festivity

har ik lab pe ho sadaa, na haath rok saaqiyaa
pilaae jaa pilaae jaa, pilaae jaa pilaae jaa
abhii to mai.n javaan huu.N
Let there be one message, don’t stop my Bartender,
Pour on, Pour on, Pour on,
For still I am young

Ghalib use to drink, Iqbal use to drink, they all use to drink mostly. If our ancestors drank, their children will also drink. Initially, it is responsibility of the seller to see the license and sell. If we all know our responsibility, life can be easier. I know I was random but I hope I made a point.

BTW, there is one shop at Bottle Gali, we all forgot the Bottle Gali.

By: JayJay

JayJay — Sun, 04 Feb 2007 12:19:22 +0000

Instant of imposing vigilante-ism on the society in the guise of religion, we should trust individuals to make decisions about themselves; about their belief, their decision to drink alcohol, etc. Nosey Islamists should mind their own business — No body makes an issue if somebody prays 50 times as day and fasts 365 days. It is an individual act, just like someone drinking.

@Pak_Stallion: Yes, the Turkish Raki (soonf- aniseed-flavoured) is out of this world.