That’s a social disorder we have.

It was only a few days ago, that I was talking to a CD supplier who told me that X rated movies are one of the major source of income for the Cd manufactures at rainbow centre, he told me that people are now bored with the regular stuff and demand the ones featuring animals or children.

Day before yesterday, I was at my cousins home in Buffer Zone. It was around 10 in the morning when her 70(app.) year old maid came in, she was sweating and looked nervous, when my cousin inquired the reason she told her that A man had been chasing after her since a few days, he had been offering her Rs.300 to go with him while she had been ignoring him, today he grabbed her and tried to drag her to a deserted road. She managed to escape my hitting the man with a small sauce pan which luckily she had in her hand.

A few days back during a robbery in our neighborhood the robbers raped the girls in the house, the victimized family left the area without telling any one where they are going, their house now bears a For Sale sign and today In the newspaper a nine year old child, raped, beheaded and was left in a gunny bag.

They removed the Red Light area from the Napier Road so it spread everywhere and became only in the reach of the rich or well connected few. They left The rainbow centre to produce X-Rated movies but they never allow sex education in schools. Rape cases are on the rise, 80% to 90% of the children of Pakistan are victims of child sexual abuse and our society still rejects the idea of even discussing such topics in public, they label them taboo.

We have kept our eyes closed and ears plugged for too long now, We have committed enough sins by tortured rape victims and deeming them “Spoiled” and rejecting them the honor which they are entitled to. We have left our children un trained and they learn everything they should not have learned from the easily available X-rated movies. It is about time we open those eyes, unplug those ears and break these so called taboos, it’s time we start educating our children and our masses so they can developed a better civic sense and follow a better social order.

65 Comments so far

  1. F. AHMED (unregistered) on March 1st, 2007 @ 4:36 pm

    Bozz:

    thanks for replying.

    i agree the debate is essential. it was the norm in early islamic history but we shut that door long time back. i think more then a 1000 year back! it should/would and has to be blown open.

    i agree. we have to debate. esp with so many varities of islamic thought to choose from even …no wonder the muslims, including me, today are a confused lot!.

    there is no question that if we are not a good human being no amount of religion would do…

    i will just recount an incidence longtime back in my local mosque involving a friend of my father who is a religious man and a prof. of surgery .
    we were in the mosque, in the late 80’s i think, for tarawee or someo there prayer and some bangees, not meant as a slur but it’s also their tribal name, came to the mosque and from the side gate went to the washing area began collecting water in their cannesters as their locality did not have a water supply.

    the prof sahab saw them in the mosque compound and began to abuse them and also slapped a few…. i really did lose a lot of respect for him that day.

    we muslims should have been kind to them, i must say no one other then him said any thing or stopped them, but also did not protest the prof. sahabs reply!

    so being religious and level headed are two seperate things!

    pls forgive my spelling mistakes…. i am in office and am trying to reply to u in a bit of a hurryBozz:

    thanks for replying.

    i agree the debate is essential. it was the norm in early islamic history but we shut that door long time back. i think more then a 1000 year back! it should/would and has to be blown open.

    i agree. we have to debate. esp with so many varities of islamic thought to choose from even …no wonder the muslims, including me, today are a confused lot!.

    there is no question that if we are not a good human being no amount of religion would do…

    i will just recount an incidence longtime back in my local mosque involving a friend of my father who is a religious man and a prof. of surgery .
    we were in the mosque, in the late 80’s i think, for tarawee or someo there prayer and some bangees, not meant as a slur but it’s also their tribal name, came to the mosque and from the side gate went to the washing area began collecting water in their cannesters as their locality did not have a water supply.

    the prof sahab saw them in the mosque compound and began to abuse them and also slapped a few…. i really did lose a lot of respect for him that day.

    we muslims should have been kind to them, i must say no one other then him said any thing or stopped them, but also did not protest the prof. sahabs reply!

    so being religious and level headed are two seperate things!

    pls forgive my spelling mistakes…. i am in office and am trying to reply to u in a bit of a hurry


  2. F. AHMED (unregistered) on March 1st, 2007 @ 4:44 pm

    Bozz:

    iam pretty sure i will go to Hell & the Holy Prophet is my only hope.

    well….i have one other chance..if i blow myslef up & kill a few few kafirs (mostly muslim kafirs in our region)not only i will go to paradise but will get 70 virgins tooBozz:

    iam pretty sure i will go to Hell & the Holy Prophet is my only hope.

    well….i have one other chance..if i blow myslef up & kill a few few kafirs (mostly muslim kafirs in our region)not only i will go to paradise but will get 70 virgins too


  3. F. AHMED (unregistered) on March 1st, 2007 @ 5:11 pm

    Bozz:

    today is the my weekend and friday and saturdays are of days for me. i have my old computer at home and it does not always work properly so for the comming 2 days you can send me e-mails if you like, at :

    immortal2001@hotmail.com


  4. MB (unregistered) on March 1st, 2007 @ 7:23 pm

    I am silently following whole post & everyone especially BOZZ & F. AHMED from the beginning. Here is what I can share.

    I will have to tilt towards BOZZ here a little with few exceptions.
    “The abuse of it (sex) is a personal thing and something to do with your mind. If you have not learned respect and self constraint that it is your own fault. It is time to take responsibility for your own action and not look for escape goats for all issues.”

    Also his point regarding The Prophet’s marriage to Aysha was strong one. Why is that because I differ to the view that one should marry at an early age? Why because we may agree to it in principle but is it not a true that it has now become almost impossible in our social context that a man stands on his feet to start a family. Please keep in mind that mere theoretical formulas won’t work here because after all there are so many social & economical aspects attached to a new marriage here. So we should, for now bear the fact that our guys & guls will be married at/around the age 25-30 & plan keep this as default.

    And this age should not be an excuse to those who try to take it other side. What I mean but this. I mean that we should accept that rape is a serious crime demanding severe punishment, fully protecting victim instead of coming with lame excuses of marrying at early age.

    I will reapat BOZZ here : And no, one does not need a genetic change over to harness one’s ‘animal instincts’. All one needs is a bit of a brain, educated and sprinkled with some common sense.

    @F. AHMED
    Does anyone think that having so many people in the late 20’s and 30’s unmarried in our society is not contributingto this problem…?? please be realistic and give actionable solutions not romanticize the point.

    Well frankly as I said again. You are not reaching the problem properly. I will say again age is not the factor of this problem. Its one out of 10 other factors. Adultery was going on 1400 years ago too. And people used to get married at early ages then. So ?

    In my opinion the practical solution is this :
    Spread education, the normal one. So men/women know there limit & responsibilities (social & otherwise) & have the sense & power to express if being misused.

    Gave them the right of freedom, generally acceptable which includes the right to marry at one’s own free will with strict punishment on agreed sex etc. thus forcing guys & guls onto agreed marriages. Because since they have education so on one side they cannot be forced against their will by family but the strict punishment will keep they away of any wrong move too.

    Make appropriate legislation with letter & spirit & not clumsy acts. Create a social & economically stable society by providing equal opportunities (but for that education is must else who will do the jobs) to men/women elite & non elite and to all sections and areas of society. This will make sure that guys/guls reaching the age of 25 will stand on their worried less about future ( coz otherwise the same thing will happen , they will keep on waiting before they standard on their own). Or at least they can take a chance with marriage as they know there are opportunities there so job insecurity would be less an issue because the honest truth is, guys mainly avoid marriage due to job & related issues. I have discussed with my friends about this in detail & 99 percent have agreed that the reason why they are/were not marrying is because they were not STABLE in many aspects job being main factor.

    And to provide those equal opportunities, create good governance in all sections of society starting with service sector first.

    And all the above practical yet theoretical rules are dependent upon the will of the gov, first and then later leaders & society. Our society is a like a reywadh. It looks upon the leaders (social, gov religious etc) for guidance & acts accordingly.

    PEACE


  5. BoZz (unregistered) on March 1st, 2007 @ 8:01 pm

    And I thought we would not get personal anymore!


  6. F. AHMED (unregistered) on March 1st, 2007 @ 11:58 pm

    bozz:

    i brought my office computer home so i guess if you are on line now then we can continue our discussion…..


  7. f.ahmed (unregistered) on March 4th, 2007 @ 7:27 pm

    is this a closed topic now??


  8. MB (unregistered) on March 4th, 2007 @ 7:34 pm

    @BOZZ & F. AHMED

    My post has just been approved. That was not in my hands dudes. Still i welcome your opinion if any.


  9. f.ahmed (unregistered) on March 4th, 2007 @ 11:07 pm

    @MB:

    Well i cannot disagree with what u said but the main issue is that to educate people properly would take a whole generation….

    the reason why i put up the early marriage thing was to generate a lively debate:)

    you can note from my earlier posts that i did not say that early marriage would be a magical solution to all the problems….ofcourse it’s not! and marrying boys are girls before they mature is also not viable. it was just a suggestion. believ me iam better educated abot this point after this debate!!

    but the problem is that just to educate a majority of our population would take 30 -40 years of sincere govt. efforts and iam not sure where the country would be by then….

    anyways at least we got to share our points of view@MB:

    Well i cannot disagree with what u said but the main issue is that to educate people properly would take a whole generation….

    the reason why i put up the early marriage thing was to generate a lively debate:)

    you can note from my earlier posts that i did not say that early marriage would be a magical solution to all the problems….ofcourse it’s not! and marrying boys are girls before they mature is also not viable. it was just a suggestion. believ me iam better educated abot this point after this debate!!

    but the problem is that just to educate a majority of our population would take 30 -40 years of sincere govt. efforts and iam not sure where the country would be by then….

    anyways at least we got to share our points of view


  10. MB (unregistered) on March 5th, 2007 @ 7:37 am

    “but i guess this is more representative of our national condition “

    Lolz…..yeah… may be
    Relax, at least we are debating the once undebatable.
    I appreciate your input & would request you to share more in other topics. Seem to be a good fellow.
    Thanks


  11. F. AHMED (unregistered) on March 5th, 2007 @ 10:17 am

    @MB:

    Well…it’s nice that we are debating mostly… it’s a start.

    i would certainly like to participate more in interesting topics.

    i have one humble suggestion!! the number of topics posted daily/weekly is almost overwhelming! i suggest that the number of topics should be managable/readable/replyable…. the sheer number of topics is sometimes too much.

    i think quality should take precedence over quantity!

    Take care.


  12. MB (unregistered) on March 5th, 2007 @ 11:04 am

    mmm
    right
    very right. Let me convey this to fellow authors at our mailing list.
    Thanks


  13. F.AHMED (unregistered) on March 5th, 2007 @ 11:20 am

    @MB

    ur most welcome.

    are u also based abroad and missing karachi, like me:)), or are based in karachi?


  14. MB (unregistered) on March 5th, 2007 @ 11:38 am

    Me, right now in Khi janaab.
    By the way if i was not, i wouldn’t be author. Its must to be in Khi for that.

    By the way did you apply for authorship, the one that was announced recently ?


  15. F.AHMED (unregistered) on March 5th, 2007 @ 11:52 am

    @MB:

    i c.

    Iam working in dubai fo the last 18 months or so.

    i did not apply for authroship but after reading ur above lines i guess i can’t:))

    and i don’t think iam authorship material!:)

    though iam a born and bread karachiete@MB:

    i c.

    Iam working in dubai fo the last 18 months or so.

    i did not apply for authroship but after reading ur above lines i guess i can’t:))

    and i don’t think iam authorship material!:)

    though iam a born and bread karachiete



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