Karachiites source of news & information ?

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http://karachi.metblogs.com/archives/images/2007/03/mb/pm2-thumb.JPGhttp://karachi.metblogs.com/archives/images/2007/03/mb/pm1-thumb.JPGLast 3 days remained one of the most active. Even though, the story is in capital, Karachi has jumped into it like anything. Readers comments at our own Karachi Metroblog & All Things Pakistan (also blogs like TM & Ramla ) especially have shown why we always say Karachi & Karachiites rock & so does whole Pakistan. Be it Oct 8’s relief work or other, Karachiites remain the first one to react at available forums.

As active as you, the readers have been we want to know your opinion about Electronic & print media. Also, the activity over internet, the blogs & forums & the opportunity they provide you to express yourself without fear, a privilege our media doesn’t enjoy. Isn’t it true that our youth needs opportunities to express views & have their say, in matters that have great impact on them. Internet being their only opportunity & choice right now. Please enlighten us about other similar choices.

So which (channel/newspaper/website) remained your good source to news, information & discussion ?
Following is my view as i observed about the way these sources handled the news:


– All TV channels started informing viewers about the development starting with GEO, ARY & AAJ.
– In eve these channels for reasons unknown stopped showing any news or story except GEO where Hamid Mir was hosting a program.
– Interestingly ARY started showing a one year old interview of Adil Najam & AAJ started showing its normal programs. Other channels went silent too. This may all be incidental but I found this very fishy. Please share if you have any idea.
– Late eve & then at night programs resumed again & things look set again for some activity.
– So far my personal opinion is all good for these channels & newspapers who are trying their best to be neutral under a military regime. Newspapers have been quite critical & there is hardly any sympathy to gov. Apart from few statements by gov officials the papers are mostly filled with anti gov. news.
– So do you think it’s a fair journey or there is any lack from the media? Those who are related to media can help us make any assessment.

I leave my views about internet on your as your views would be more beneficial in this regard.

37 Comments so far

  1. Arsalaan Haleem (unregistered) on March 12th, 2007 @ 10:27 am

    Once upon a time, my source of news used to Dawn.com, but nowadays its KMB.

    Three cheers for Karachi Metblogs and its team…!!!


  2. Adil Najam (unregistered) on March 12th, 2007 @ 10:43 am

    I must confess that as I prepare my posts I do a survey of many Pakistani blogs, and the three Pakistani Metroblogs – but especially the Karachi Metroblog – are great sources of information as well as insight. Bravo.


  3. Farhan (unregistered) on March 12th, 2007 @ 11:06 am

    For Karachi its KMB


  4. Jamal Shamsi (unregistered) on March 12th, 2007 @ 11:17 am

    NEW YORK, March 11: Pakistan Muslim League leader Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain has refused to comment on the presidential reference against Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry, saying that it is an internal matter between the army and the judiciary.
    – – – – – – – –

    Bravo – Finally the Husky voice Leader have said something lound & clear – It is not about President & Chief Justice – It is about ARMY & Judiciary.

    3 Cheers for HIM (I hope he does not take back his words)


  5. BT (unregistered) on March 12th, 2007 @ 12:05 pm

    Shujaat is old & weak….i don’t think he knows what he saying…becahra would get a good scolding from the army and then will say the opposite like a parrot!


  6. d0ct0r (unregistered) on March 12th, 2007 @ 12:49 pm

    KMB is the only source i could think of as far as breaking news is concerned.. coz newspaper’s sites take ages to update even for a breaking and developing news.. here on kmb users keep others updated which makes all the difference…


  7. Adnan (unregistered) on March 12th, 2007 @ 1:28 pm

    Advocate Gen of Sind was more louder and clearer than Shujat when he publicly condemned the action of custody and cutting every communication mode. Arbab has been scolded by govt officials for giving statments against CJ.


  8. omar r. quraishi (unregistered) on March 12th, 2007 @ 1:33 pm

    your comments dont make sense — KMB does not break any thing in the journalistic sense – all that it does is report breaking news elsewhere — that does not mean that KMB itself breaks the news — for instance, news of the suspension came on KMB from another source — KMB itself was not the primary source of that news — that’s what makes it different from a conventional news source — and one reason why conventional news sources maytake time to update is because they need to verify that a certain story is in fact true or not and that can take time — you will be a source of news if and when journalists come to you for that — like it happens with some blogs in the US where people with connections to reliable and credible sources have their own blogs– i come here for the comment on various issues and not for breaking news —


  9. d0ct0r (unregistered) on March 12th, 2007 @ 2:33 pm

    kmb basically acts as news aggregator from different sources.. offcourse kmb does not have journalists on the ground to collect news ,all it does is collect news from different sources for its reader…


  10. d0ct0r (unregistered) on March 12th, 2007 @ 2:57 pm

    plus one more thing i need to point out that breaking news remains a breaking news and it simply doesn’t matter who broke it first …


  11. MB (unregistered) on March 12th, 2007 @ 5:58 pm

    @Guys, i have been out of touch today.

    Anyone , any updates or development ?


  12. MB (unregistered) on March 12th, 2007 @ 6:23 pm

    HUM TV has been the first one to show Naeem Bukhari’s version of the story.

    Interestingly NB sees it differently. While he is all for what he wrote in letter he is not happy with the Way it has been done.

    Is he regreting now?

    Who will follow now ? GEO or AAJ or ARY ?


  13. Ramla (unregistered) on March 12th, 2007 @ 8:50 pm

    Blogs have become a tremendously influential source of news TO THE PEOPLE. It’s all about people – and what people give merit to.

    The whole idea of blogging has taken off world wide BECAUSE they are powerful sources of communication, spread news and ideas and views or whatever content quickly, instant interaction and feedback, and rallying.

    Blogs are also a great way to quickly inter-relate amongst stories and ideas on the web. Some of the leading blogs do just that – from Boing Boing to Problogger.

    Personally, I now only use traditional media about 3-5% and I can’t imagine what my life would be like without the Internet.

    Millions of people are turning to Wikipedia and blogs – because they are truly democratic and representative of the people.


  14. Ramla (unregistered) on March 12th, 2007 @ 8:59 pm

    Agree with Adil Najam –

    I now look for “real” stories in blogs.

    I have often wondered to producers of TV programs why they insist on giving limelight to the same person – why they keep avoiding the risk of inviting the “uncelebrated.”

    E.G. I’d like to see not Tahir Khan AGAIN on a program related to advertising, but someone else.

    Fortunately this situation has changed a lot since I first joined the TV world in 2003 – with the advent of local and more grassroots oriented media – and of course so many channels. Lots of fresh faces – many new people given opportunity. Very healthy.

    Yet it’s blogs and web communities that have introduced me, in a very interactive way – to un-celebrities who are the real deal. Also, the mainstream media remains still very far behind in catching up with the real mood of the people.

    I initially felt the same disconnection with people when I was doing my job. And it’s taken a great deal of learning and experimenting with communities, wikis, and other media to understand that the top-down approach no longer works. It didn’t work with me, why’d it work with my audience?

    My opinion is that the mainstream print and electronic media has a looooong way to go in catching up with the society’s real mood. Worst are advertisers who aren’t exactly media-media – but form a significant part of what we get on media. They seem to have no clue of what a significant part of the population REALLY thinks about their hideous campaigns.


  15. MB (unregistered) on March 12th, 2007 @ 9:42 pm

    BREAKING NEWS

    After attacking Judiciary, now the private channels are under fire

    A case has been filed against private channels to cancel their licenses for showing programs on IC case.


  16. MB (unregistered) on March 12th, 2007 @ 9:50 pm

    BREAKING NEWS
    Just now Sher Afghan Niazi has said that the case Naeem Bukhari has mentioned about in his letter about Niazi’s son and has said that the IC summoned him and what eva said is absolute false.

    Well well well………after THE NEWS journalist takeing NB cloths off now its gov own guy


  17. SELF (unregistered) on March 12th, 2007 @ 10:08 pm

    Adil, keep looking at BBC Urdu site as well. They have some useful bits here and there too.


  18. d0ct0r (unregistered) on March 12th, 2007 @ 11:47 pm

    bbc trying to locate Justice Rana Bhagwandas….

    his brother says he boarded flight for Dehli rest he isn’t aware about his current location.. Pakistan high commission in Dehli says they’re not aware of any justice visiting india..

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/india/story/2007/03/070312_wheres_bhagwan_sq.shtml


  19. d0ct0r (unregistered) on March 12th, 2007 @ 11:49 pm

    sources in Indian supreme court saying that he is back in pakistan…


  20. d0ct0r (unregistered) on March 12th, 2007 @ 11:51 pm

    Naeem Bukhari in his interview on HUM tv says that president’s suspension of CJ is unconstitutional and against the rules… and he tried his best to laugh off some serious questions from Mazhar Abbas…


  21. SELF (unregistered) on March 12th, 2007 @ 11:58 pm

    گمشدہ افراد کی فہرست ميں چيف جسٹس بھی شامل ہوگئے ہيں۔

    BBC Urdu


  22. d0ct0r (unregistered) on March 13th, 2007 @ 12:08 am

    two of the Justices sitting in Supreme judicial council are already accused of financial misappropriation and land misappropriation and references against them are pending with this same Supreme judicial council… and the third one daughter has been given admission on CM sindh’s quota, keep that in mind CM sindh will aprear against the CJ and the next justice CJ of Sindh also is the grieved party as his house is being used by CJ iftikhar Chaudry so ethically he should not sit as the one deciding… and finally the future of Acting CJ jawaid iqbal also depends upon this case(i.e. if CJ iftikhar is restored with full honor then chances of Jawaid Iqbal become a permanent CJ are slim) so this creates a huge conflict of interest…


  23. SELF (unregistered) on March 13th, 2007 @ 12:14 am

    From the looks of it CJ Iftikhar is the only frishta among the lot.


  24. d0ct0r (unregistered) on March 13th, 2007 @ 12:29 am

    @self he is the accused party.. these other judges deciding his fate are also accused of corruption and cases against them are pending with this same supreme judicial council.. so how can they dispense justice to others when they them selves don’t have a
    clear record…


  25. omar r. quraishi (unregistered) on March 13th, 2007 @ 7:21 am

    Editorial, The News, March 13, 2007

    All the makings of a police state

    The events since Friday make extremely depressing reading for anyone remotely concerned about the state of the nation. The continued virtual house arrest of the suspended chief justice of Pakistan, Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry, is a black spot on this government that will be difficult — one would say, almost impossible — to erase from public memory. As if the humiliation of Justice Chaudhry being summoned to Army House and being asked to explain to the president (wearing army fatigues) the allegations contained in a now-controversial letter was not enough, one now learns that since Friday the suspended chief justice of Pakistan and his family have had their telephone lines disconnected, their mobile phones taken away and have been prohibited from watching television or reading newspapers. According to several reports, most quoting Justice Chaudhry’s family members, the house of the suspended chief justice is swarming with officials of the intelligence agencies and no one is allowed to enter the premises, though retired air force chief Air Marshal Asghar Khan did manage to argue and walk past the guards and meet Justice Chaudhry.

    In doing all of this, the government has clearly overstepped its authority. Justice Chaudhry, if Article 209 has been followed and read properly, has had a reference filed against him for misconduct and abuse of office. However, preventing him from meeting people and restricting his and his family’s movement, and not letting him establish contact with anyone outside his residence gives the impression as if the government considers him a dangerous criminal who is a clear and present danger to society. What the government has been doing since Friday is only going to exacerbate the crisis and lower its credibility — already quite low — in the eyes of (it can be safely said) most Pakistanis because they will think that if this can happen to a chief justice of the Supreme Court then ordinary citizens might just as well forget about receiving their constitutionally guaranteed right to due process and a fair hearing.

    By denying the suspended chief justice the right to move around freely, to meet whoever he wishes or even to talk to the media, the government is in violation of the Constitution, and specifically of the constitutional process by which a member of the Supreme Court is to be removed from office. Surely, the president, the prime minister, members of the federal cabinet and even the brother judges of Justice Chaudhry would agree that his is a case of convicting without even being given a fair hearing. Surely, it can be seen that Article 209 does not authorise the president, or anyone for that matter, with the power to restrict the physical movement of a judge against whom a reference has been filed and to bar him from using any link to the outside world. A lot of damage has already been done by this full frontal assault on the judiciary of the country.

    Of course, no one should defend a judge, no matter how august he may be, if he indulges in conduct unbecoming of his office and misuses his official powers. But allegations should not be equated with proof and conviction — something that the government’s actions suggest is the case — and the method and process outlined in the Constitution need to be followed. This constitutional method does not have any provision for physically restricting a judge under investigation from moving about freely and stripping away his officially entitled privileges — the latter can be done only after the investigation has been carried out and a recommendation for removal made by the Supreme Judicial Council and acted upon by the president. Even in that eventuality, the action should not be seen as high-handed and vindictive — which seems to be the case now, despite the fact that the charges against Justice Chaudhry remain mere allegations. As has been reported widely, on the day of his suspension following the filing of the presidential reference, Justice Chaudhry was stopped from entering the premises of the Supreme Court building and escorted to his house by a senior police official. Even now, with a reference filed against him but none of the charges proved, the suspended chief justice should be free to visit his office if he so wishes because there is nothing in the Constitution that prevents any judge of the Supreme or High Courts, and against whom a reference has been filed with the Supreme Judicial Council, from attending his office.

    There is one other point as well: ministers should not consider the people of this country to be bumpkins who cannot see what is going on. When told that Air Marshal Asghar Khan had met Justice Chaudhry who told him that he (Justice Chaudhry) had no access to the phone, TV or newspapers, one member of the federal cabinet expressed surprise and then went on to say that this itself was proof that the chief justice was free to meet people. Surely, the hordes of journalists, politicians and well-wishers standing outside the gates of Justice Chaudhry’s official residence and denied entry by the security staff posted there speak of an entirely contrary situation, one that really puts official claims that he is free to meet anyone to shame. The government needs to extricate itself from this ugly situation before it spirals out of control. Any delay in repairing the damage can only convince most Pakistanis that they live in a country that has all the makings of a police state. Also, equally importantly, the government needs to understand that for the sake of its own credibility this farce needs to come to an end.


  26. Adnan (unregistered) on March 13th, 2007 @ 10:06 am

    Naeem BUkhari is in deep trouble no. Naeem mentioned named of Akram Shaikh that he helped him to write th e letter but yestereve he appeared on GEO and said that he didn’t even know about the letter and he’s against the letter as well as action by the dictator.


  27. omar r. quraishi (unregistered) on March 13th, 2007 @ 12:32 pm

    of course all of you will back each other up on the primacy of blogs because thats what you all do


  28. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on March 13th, 2007 @ 10:57 pm

    Actually Omar Qureshi is an old style journalist[as he claim 13/14+ of experience], he finds difficult to digest the fact that in today’s world of journalism blogs are playing a big part. Didn’t anyone notice sections like Bloggers Comment on International Papers like WP? where they display the links from blogsphere who are discussing the issue pertaining to the particular news. There is a term MoJo[Mobile Journalism] which is used for blogs.

    Blogs can be source a of breaking news. Channels and newspapers are dependant on international news resources like Reuters etc. if a Pakistani blogger accesses the Reuters news or its local news before any newspaper or channel then certainly his blog would be the main source of breaking news and would be referred by other news resources.


  29. UZi (unregistered) on March 14th, 2007 @ 12:42 am

    Channels and newspapers are dependant on international news resources like Reuters etc.

    ummm … while I’m not undermining the “informativeness” of blogs, but your statement makes it sound like us reporters in Pakiland aren’t doing anything at all — that’s really REALLY unfair, y’know, and I resent that. Heck, I PROTEST!!! :P


  30. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on March 14th, 2007 @ 1:39 am

    I am not talking about local reporters who report local news. There are dawn and jang reps out of Pakistan as well so physical existance doesn’t matter here.

    Like newspapers,other companies can also sign a deal with agencies like Reuters. I know this because the place where I started my career used to run a portal and Reuters had installed their system to recieve first hand image/texts directly from reuters HQ and many times we broke international news before papers like Jang etc because unlike papers, portal could be updated anytime. Treasury departments of Banks also sign agreement with Reuters to get first hand financial news rather depending upon papers.


  31. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on March 14th, 2007 @ 1:42 am

    Oh,BTW i am talking about the days when World Didn’t experience 9/11 and people were not aware of something like “Google”.


  32. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on March 14th, 2007 @ 1:43 am

    Oh,BTW i am talking about the days when World Didn’t experience 9/11 and people were not aware of something like “Google”.


  33. UZi (unregistered) on March 14th, 2007 @ 1:45 am

    sahi sahi — I see the light! :P I de-protestify! :P


  34. Ramla A. (unregistered) on March 14th, 2007 @ 11:17 am

    Actually Uzi, the strength of blogging lies in its strong local flavor. It’s local reporters, all right, just reporting through a new medium. So blogging is also a proof to the fact that for “really” relevant news, you have to go to the very local reporter, who most likely also has a stake in the community they are reporting on. So blogging empowers the local reporter.

    And that’s why people love blogging – as writers and readers: a world-wide agency couldn’t tell them about their “mohallah” the way their neighbor can. Of course, news agencies still retain an edge b/c of their infrastructure.

    It’s an entire model of journalism in its own self.

    As Adnan rightly says, it’s not a matter to be brushed aside. Several papers are now testing giving bloggers FRONT-PAGE space on their websites – and bloggers already have own news networks.

    Blogger such as Jason Kottke and Problogger left their jobs out of the money their readers “tipped” them – Problogger actually became a millionaire. Couldn’t possibly happen if nobody was reading their blogs.


  35. Ramla A. (unregistered) on March 14th, 2007 @ 11:20 am

    Just look at the participation rate on this blog: 27756 comments as of right now.


  36. MB (unregistered) on March 14th, 2007 @ 11:23 am

    Hey Ramla or any other fellow for that matter, is there any site where we can get stats from regarding blogs especially ?


  37. MB (unregistered) on March 14th, 2007 @ 5:43 pm

    @OMAR
    By the way i forgot to comment on “All the makings of a police state” earlier,as i wanted to. Well done & keep it up.



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