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	<title>Comments on: The Plastic Bag Ban: What is our responsibility?</title>
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		<title>By: Kashif Umar Draz</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/03/22/the-plastic-bag-ban-what-is-our-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-28885</link>
		<dc:creator>Kashif Umar Draz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 05:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sir!I have a question Sewerage system can be even better if u do not use plastic bag how ever if we observe the wastage in the gutter there are pampers,stones and many other things also,this is not the solution the govt has to aware the man about it.
     and one important thing that the Punjab Assembly has passed the law of using 15 micron atleast plastic bag in 2002,why is this dual law in this country.Only Sind industry suffer from this law of 30 micron it should be overall 30 micron law
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sir!I have a question Sewerage system can be even better if u do not use plastic bag how ever if we observe the wastage in the gutter there are pampers,stones and many other things also,this is not the solution the govt has to aware the man about it.<br />
     and one important thing that the Punjab Assembly has passed the law of using 15 micron atleast plastic bag in 2002,why is this dual law in this country.Only Sind industry suffer from this law of 30 micron it should be overall 30 micron law</p>
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		<title>By: wasiq</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/03/22/the-plastic-bag-ban-what-is-our-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-28884</link>
		<dc:creator>wasiq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt; Only God knows why Al-qaida loves New Yolk.....&lt;/i&gt; lol

what else did i miss...??&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><i> Only God knows why Al-qaida loves New Yolk&#8230;..</i> lol</p>
<p>what else did i miss&#8230;??</b></p>
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		<title>By: Sathish</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/03/22/the-plastic-bag-ban-what-is-our-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-28883</link>
		<dc:creator>Sathish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is Good in the greater public interest shall be imposed / enforced with full blow. 

Ban on such under 30 micron bags was discussed since 1st of BB regime. so call it 20 plus years issue which now came to final implementation.

if we notice, whenever there are NULLAH cleaning along the roads or Gutter clean within the street the debris left over contain nothing but polythene bags.

for sure they are a menace evil for society

&quot;demolish a mosque if it is for the greater interest of public masses&quot; thats a Hadith in Sahi bokhari. and there are no, ifs, buts, or, in it.

so these bags are not end of world. 

we can keep a rug sack stashed in a bike carrier or trunk of car and utilise it as &amp; when necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is Good in the greater public interest shall be imposed / enforced with full blow. </p>
<p>Ban on such under 30 micron bags was discussed since 1st of BB regime. so call it 20 plus years issue which now came to final implementation.</p>
<p>if we notice, whenever there are NULLAH cleaning along the roads or Gutter clean within the street the debris left over contain nothing but polythene bags.</p>
<p>for sure they are a menace evil for society</p>
<p>&#8220;demolish a mosque if it is for the greater interest of public masses&#8221; thats a Hadith in Sahi bokhari. and there are no, ifs, buts, or, in it.</p>
<p>so these bags are not end of world. </p>
<p>we can keep a rug sack stashed in a bike carrier or trunk of car and utilise it as &amp; when necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Adnan Siddiqi</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/03/22/the-plastic-bag-ban-what-is-our-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-28882</link>
		<dc:creator>Adnan Siddiqi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bozz: Offcourse none of my family work but yes others Pakistanis &quot;DO&quot; work. You sound too stupid when you say my family is associated with the business just because I am favoring those people?

I reacted similarly when govt imposed Pillion ban in Karachi[check the archieve of this site]. Now someone should have comeup that my family belongs to Motorbike manufacturing company

Your attitude is cruel,selfish towards those who belong to this Industry but it seems that pakistanis liberals don&#039;t get time to give a proper education to their kids and spend most of time in partying late night. 

As I said next time do some homework before sharing your immature rants with others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bozz: Offcourse none of my family work but yes others Pakistanis &#8220;DO&#8221; work. You sound too stupid when you say my family is associated with the business just because I am favoring those people?</p>
<p>I reacted similarly when govt imposed Pillion ban in Karachi[check the archieve of this site]. Now someone should have comeup that my family belongs to Motorbike manufacturing company</p>
<p>Your attitude is cruel,selfish towards those who belong to this Industry but it seems that pakistanis liberals don&#8217;t get time to give a proper education to their kids and spend most of time in partying late night. </p>
<p>As I said next time do some homework before sharing your immature rants with others.</p>
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		<title>By: BoZz</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/03/22/the-plastic-bag-ban-what-is-our-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-28881</link>
		<dc:creator>BoZz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 06:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janab Adnan Siddiqi maulvi sahib. Thank you for your comments. Luckily my dad or mom are not working for this trade. But seeing the ferocity of your defense it looks like yours are.

Jobs, Secure systems, Infra structure, Inflation, Investments, Gamblings... lots of words. Looks like you are using your polythene bag to put all these in.

That or your turban is falling in front of your eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janab Adnan Siddiqi maulvi sahib. Thank you for your comments. Luckily my dad or mom are not working for this trade. But seeing the ferocity of your defense it looks like yours are.</p>
<p>Jobs, Secure systems, Infra structure, Inflation, Investments, Gamblings&#8230; lots of words. Looks like you are using your polythene bag to put all these in.</p>
<p>That or your turban is falling in front of your eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: Adnan Siddiqi</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/03/22/the-plastic-bag-ban-what-is-our-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-28880</link>
		<dc:creator>Adnan Siddiqi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 03:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bozz: as I said that your dad/guardian/anyone who brings money at your home don&#039;t belong to those &quot;3000&quot; that&#039;s why you are making statment on an online forum. How cruel you are! Guess if you were part of such family then you were not even able to come online to share your rants. 

&lt;i&gt;
The government is not and cannot be held responsible for everything
&lt;/i&gt;

What are the responsibilities of a govt? Providing Job is ONE of the MOST important responsibility of any govt and IF govt is unable to provide Jobs then it is govt&#039;s core task to provide a secure System to the people who are willing to do business in a state so that those businessmen can provide jobs to needy people.

The reality is that every govt of Pakistan failed to provide a secure infrastructure to investors and SMEs, this is the reason that inflation rate is keep getting increased in Pakistan. There is a big capacity to introduce new jobs in various sectors but people are shaky for their investments, they ain&#039;t willing to gamble their money at all.

Kid, start experiencing real life. It&#039;s very different than your imaginary world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bozz: as I said that your dad/guardian/anyone who brings money at your home don&#8217;t belong to those &#8220;3000&#8243; that&#8217;s why you are making statment on an online forum. How cruel you are! Guess if you were part of such family then you were not even able to come online to share your rants. </p>
<p><i><br />
The government is not and cannot be held responsible for everything<br />
</i></p>
<p>What are the responsibilities of a govt? Providing Job is ONE of the MOST important responsibility of any govt and IF govt is unable to provide Jobs then it is govt&#8217;s core task to provide a secure System to the people who are willing to do business in a state so that those businessmen can provide jobs to needy people.</p>
<p>The reality is that every govt of Pakistan failed to provide a secure infrastructure to investors and SMEs, this is the reason that inflation rate is keep getting increased in Pakistan. There is a big capacity to introduce new jobs in various sectors but people are shaky for their investments, they ain&#8217;t willing to gamble their money at all.</p>
<p>Kid, start experiencing real life. It&#8217;s very different than your imaginary world.</p>
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		<title>By: BoZz</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/03/22/the-plastic-bag-ban-what-is-our-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-28879</link>
		<dc:creator>BoZz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not in a hundred years. I wonder where stupidity lies, being indifferent to 3000 persons or 30 million plus not including the environment and all that it holds. Being indifferent to 3000 or to the whole nation!

MB I can see your point and Adnan&#039;s too if I look at things with tunnel vision.

The government is not responsible to find a job for each and every citizen of this nation. In no country this is so and cannot be so. 

The government is not and cannot be held responsible for everything. It is way high time to grow up and shoulder some of the resultant responsibility as well.

I know that this maybe a hard concept for us to digest but some where we have to start to sacrifice for the greater good. To be a little less selfish and look at the bigger picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not in a hundred years. I wonder where stupidity lies, being indifferent to 3000 persons or 30 million plus not including the environment and all that it holds. Being indifferent to 3000 or to the whole nation!</p>
<p>MB I can see your point and Adnan&#8217;s too if I look at things with tunnel vision.</p>
<p>The government is not responsible to find a job for each and every citizen of this nation. In no country this is so and cannot be so. </p>
<p>The government is not and cannot be held responsible for everything. It is way high time to grow up and shoulder some of the resultant responsibility as well.</p>
<p>I know that this maybe a hard concept for us to digest but some where we have to start to sacrifice for the greater good. To be a little less selfish and look at the bigger picture.</p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ZAINUB : waahhhhhhh!!!!............. yar tukmne toh apni inning ki first ball per six maar dia........ lash pash...
Excellent post........ 10/10 from me...

Alright , so lets have a reply to all :

I too agree to this Adnan theory: &quot;&lt;em&gt;Sudden imposing of a law without providing any alternatives&lt;/em&gt;&quot;

I asked my cousin who lives at our home and often gets &lt;em&gt;ghrailu samaan&lt;/em&gt; when I am not around about this and he told me too that the dukaandar have started giving in hand now.

As for Awab&#039;s comment  &lt;em&gt;&quot;The world over has learnt to live without plastic bags, I am sure we will learn the same way, yes, it seems hard but we shall learn &quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I would like to ask what about the people who will loose the job, how they will learn to live?

Then again I am with zainub when she says &quot;&lt;em&gt;the ban is a step in the right direction&lt;/em&gt;&quot;. But the medicine which the patient couldn&#039;t digest becomes itself an issue. If there are alternatives to this then fine else it&#039;s just another blunder that our gov. is famous to make.

Last but not least: How I am going to find out if the plastic bag I have is below 30 microns.

@BOZZ :  &lt;em&gt;&quot;What absurdity to link the loss of 3000 jobs ................. than 30 MILLION people&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I couldn&#039;t have expected such a stupid comment from you bozz. I guess Adnan has given you the proper reply. You can&#039;t be so indifferent to those poor people. Are you?
Please take that comment back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ZAINUB : waahhhhhhh!!!!&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. yar tukmne toh apni inning ki first ball per six maar dia&#8230;&#8230;.. lash pash&#8230;<br />
Excellent post&#8230;&#8230;.. 10/10 from me&#8230;</p>
<p>Alright , so lets have a reply to all :</p>
<p>I too agree to this Adnan theory: &#8220;<em>Sudden imposing of a law without providing any alternatives</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>I asked my cousin who lives at our home and often gets <em>ghrailu samaan</em> when I am not around about this and he told me too that the dukaandar have started giving in hand now.</p>
<p>As for Awab&#8217;s comment  <em>&#8220;The world over has learnt to live without plastic bags, I am sure we will learn the same way, yes, it seems hard but we shall learn &#8220;</em></p>
<p>I would like to ask what about the people who will loose the job, how they will learn to live?</p>
<p>Then again I am with zainub when she says &#8220;<em>the ban is a step in the right direction</em>&#8220;. But the medicine which the patient couldn&#8217;t digest becomes itself an issue. If there are alternatives to this then fine else it&#8217;s just another blunder that our gov. is famous to make.</p>
<p>Last but not least: How I am going to find out if the plastic bag I have is below 30 microns.</p>
<p>@BOZZ :  <em>&#8220;What absurdity to link the loss of 3000 jobs &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. than 30 MILLION people&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t have expected such a stupid comment from you bozz. I guess Adnan has given you the proper reply. You can&#8217;t be so indifferent to those poor people. Are you?<br />
Please take that comment back.</p>
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		<title>By: Adnan Siddiqi</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/03/22/the-plastic-bag-ban-what-is-our-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-28877</link>
		<dc:creator>Adnan Siddiqi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;
The decision as taken by the government is neither sudden nor unannounced. The environmentalists have been pointing this out for a few years now.
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Crap! Same people also been whiniing for traffic pollution as well. When no alternative means have been announced by govt then it would be considered a SUDDEN implementation of a law.


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What absurdity to link the loss of 3000 jobs or even ten thousand, in comparison to the numerous benefits and relief
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Just because head of your family is not used to work for that industry? If your family members were part of the industry then i bet you would be upset at the moment.


Talk about ground realities ,can you?</description>
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The decision as taken by the government is neither sudden nor unannounced. The environmentalists have been pointing this out for a few years now.<br />
</i></p>
<p>Crap! Same people also been whiniing for traffic pollution as well. When no alternative means have been announced by govt then it would be considered a SUDDEN implementation of a law.</p>
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What absurdity to link the loss of 3000 jobs or even ten thousand, in comparison to the numerous benefits and relief<br />
</i></p>
<p>Just because head of your family is not used to work for that industry? If your family members were part of the industry then i bet you would be upset at the moment.</p>
<p>Talk about ground realities ,can you?</p>
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		<title>By: Adnan Siddiqi</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/03/22/the-plastic-bag-ban-what-is-our-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-28876</link>
		<dc:creator>Adnan Siddiqi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks zainab for converting an informal email group conversation to an article. Very well written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks zainab for converting an informal email group conversation to an article. Very well written.</p>
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