I dunno where u work, but sounds pretty Anal.

& if ure so worried about getting busted for piracy, use “Open Office” or for basic formatting “MS WORD PAD” (comes free with every copy of windows) would also suffice.

Oh and a lil FYI, a company cannot prosecute you for using pirated sw unless the copyright holder presses them.
And not all pirated sw has trojans, popular hacks just ‘break’ the keys and stop the copy from connecting to the publishers servers and validating itself. The worst that happens is that the sw keeps bugging you to validate/register.

There are dozens of other examples, i still think free market capitalism and a strong economy is the basis that can provide a good infrastructure for education to flow through into society. We must educate children, no doubt about it. The economy must be strong enough first for them to be able to use the education and find a job.

Obviously India is a different story, they have more muslims in India than in pakistan. They are the second highest populated country as well. Last year alone India rose 12 BILLIONAIRES; all this prosperity comes from what? A strong economy that allowed education so, first the economy must be strong and education will naturally follow through.

Money invested in Pakistan is good, if it be so at the expense of the Enviorment, sure. Ppl come first right?

But as me and MB have been ranting, Look @ the companies proposal.

Are they putting up industries?

Are they investing in the exsisting infrastructure?

Are they offering to mechanise the farming? Or would they be willing to provide cold storage plants to the current farmers, making sure that 75% + of their produce doesnt rott before it reaches the markets?

NO!.

What they wanna do is build apartments & condo’s and hotels.

This “Might” work in the UAE because ppl have money there.

Paki’s dont.

UAE has a condusive enviorment for businesses,the gov makes sure there is a stable economy by providing incetives, security, healthcare, education etc etc—basically what an average human craves for.

Paki’s dont even have clean water to drink (Whatever the class).

& MB, abt that person not investing properly.

A) Bechare ki kismat.

B) Jab tak koi harampai na karo is mulk mein, one does not make money.

Now i put a question in front of you & would like to tell me what you make out of it.

The paan walas/dukandars/theiley walas (in posh areas) in Karachi earn more than engineers & doctors. Because they can do away with education why they will be convinced on sending their kids to schools & not to some economy generated opportunity?

That is my first question & to support it I present a previous example I quoted on a previous occasion. I would like you to tell me what you think on it too.
From
http://karachi.metblogs.com/archives/2007/02/why_protest_aga.phtml
(10th comment)

” Why I should send my children to school when I have to pay RS. 500-1000 in fee. I have got 4 kids so I have to pay few thousand in fee, multiplied by 10 years + college fee + university fee which would again be minimum ( around 1 – 6 lack ). In the end you come up with a figure well over 2 million. And even after doing that I have to offer bribe to get my children a job. Why not I invest these millions on a hotel, paan shop or restaurant & make billions in 16-18 years of my children’s education. These are not my words; these are the words of a pathan bhai whom I met at Bath Island last year. I was amazed that he was opposing eduction. Ponder deeply on what he said & you would find a bitter but ignored reality. And mind you he was a well off guy; forget the poverty stricken 40 percent population.

Please forgive me for my lengthy comments.

If you have a good economy, you can fullfill basic needs. Once they are fulfilled, education naturally flows through. I am all for education, if we have a strong economy first, we can promote and educate better.

Maybe a silly example but when you get on a plane and the pressure drops, they ask you to put your mask on first before you assist anyone else; first build the economy, stabalize and stabalize others.

I think the video is a little too far fetched, it is possible but maybe in the next 10-15 years. We need a change.

Correct me if I am worng, but the only reasons you are against the proposal is that it would ruin our beaches and endanger the turtles. I am probably going to be blasted for saying this, but are those really our priorities right now? Today we are in no position to care for our environment when we can’t even care for our citizens. We will slowly waste our natural assets anyway if we keep continuing like today. As ANON said, we need a change.

P.S. I still the think the video is unrealistic and misleading.

How will you bring good economy without education ?
And how you can prosper only with good economy without education ? ( Refer to my Sheikh example, who have money & so called economy but no skill )
Also refer to Pervez Hoodbhoy’s articles on why education outweighs any other requirement in any country.
http://www.chowk.com/show_writer_page.cgi?pen_name=Pervez%20Hoodbhoy

Also, Is it not that education brings good economy & not vice versa. Education should be the basics when you use the word “The basic infrastructure”. Look at Germany & Sweden or Japan.

Before a person picks up a book or goes to school, the household must have the means to survive, keep their stomachs half full at least. Having additional jobs allows for just that. This has never happened in karachi before, we all know the booming media and advertising industry has brought over 200,000 jobs in the last 3 year alone. A good economy is the base for a prosperous city/country/nation. Education is not.

Our city has a >15M population, we need more jobs. The basic infrastructure needs improvment to cater to this huge city, it will come with the investment. You need to give this another 10 years or more. Our country is still VERY young and this is the best time Karachi has ever seen. It is very easy to find flaws in any new idea, that is not the receipe to move forward. Change is the only way.