in other blogs #3: The real enlightenment

What javeria has written, i’ve also seen happening. She writes about how enlightenment about quran, about the teachings of islam are spreading at a grassroots level among the women of the so-called ‘westernized society’ of karachi’s posh localities. Adnan Siddiqui, when commenting on a previous blog here, wrote that he was indebted to US and their war on terror, for it made him want to learn and understand what Islam was truly all about. Here, things are not so different, for i suspect that all the targetting has made people want to learn and understand it’s teachings better.

I have seen sleeveless wearing girls and women change and take up the full hijab. I have seen filthy rich fashion conscious ladies change and become simple and veiled and beautiful practicing Muslimahs…I have seen the rich donate money and their entire houses for the spread of deen.

19 Comments so far

  1. Feet Maestro (unregistered) on April 30th, 2007 @ 3:26 pm

    Scary…


  2. Sajid (unregistered) on April 30th, 2007 @ 5:58 pm

    hmm?!?


  3. JayJay (unregistered) on April 30th, 2007 @ 6:05 pm

    Seige mentality!


  4. JayJay (unregistered) on April 30th, 2007 @ 6:07 pm

    Veil and beards are symbols of ostentatious religiosity and ritualism. Have we become better humans in any way?


  5. MB (unregistered) on April 30th, 2007 @ 9:49 pm

    Well i say who wants to have burqa , do it. Who wants to opt Western attire, be so

    Just live and let live. It hardly makes any difference in morals. Stop fooling others by dresses. I saw forced prostitutes with better morals than burqa clads & similarly west-impressed fools acting like j***.

    My pathan peon who is full-fledge taliban by faith, is better than my Manager in many ways. You will get plenty of stuff as example. As I said it hardly makes any difference in morals.

    The Prophet had a beard, & so had Abu-Jahel & the kaafir’s. It was just a culture followed then & holy prophet didn’t try to be an alien. It then became his sunnnath. If someone follows it fine if doesn’t, relax & follow your own style but just as Prophet didn’t try to look alien you don’t too & jus find a middle way in whatever that society wears.

    Get out of this dress & all that. There are more important things to follow from Holy Prophets life…


  6. MB (unregistered) on April 30th, 2007 @ 9:55 pm

    Sorry I missed something, hang on :

    Sleeveless girls taking up full hijab is nothing to do with “changing into a good human or muslim”
    It’s just a a chance from one preference to other.

    As for “rich donate money and their entire houses for the spread of deen” is concerned. Now that something more important & noble cause & should be appreciated.

    By the way Pakistani population participates in big numbers when they give in charity. That’s a really good sign. It goes to show that on any given day we can be as good as any other nation can be. Is just that our shaitaan takes ova the good guy inside us mostly.


  7. MB (unregistered) on April 30th, 2007 @ 9:57 pm

    correction:

    It’s just a change** from one preference . . .


  8. MB (unregistered) on April 30th, 2007 @ 10:24 pm

    Hang on, plenty more. Thanks to KESC. I love it & dont want to type again so, in parts.

    Enlightenment has nothing to do with ISLAM. Its just that ironically the WEST especially ISRAEL follows it:
    Read JC article on Israel: http://karachi.metblogs.com/archives/images/2007/04/aprilmb/JC-israel2.phtml

    And NOW about our own beloved PRESIDENT
    http://karachi.metblogs.com/archives/images/2007/04/aprilmb/JC-israel.phtml

    Tell me who is following ISLAM more. Our enemy ISRAEL or our beloved UMMAH. So stop acting as if enlightenment is only by ISLAM. It is universal & comes from inside & its greatly dependent upon society & tarbiyat & better understanding of others & respect for other faiths.

    And all the religions in the world preach this, in principle. We the MUSLIMs suddenly found out that our religion has been shouting for 1400 years to follow what is a basic ingredient in its ideology.

    Thats it
    PEACE


  9. MB (unregistered) on April 30th, 2007 @ 10:25 pm

    Hang on, plenty more. Thanks to KESC. I love it & dont want to type again so, in parts.

    Enlightenment has nothing to do with ISLAM. Its just that ironically the WEST especially ISRAEL follows it:
    Read JC article on Israel: http://karachi.metblogs.com/archives/images/2007/04/aprilmb/JC-israel2.phtml

    And NOW about our own beloved PRESIDENT
    http://karachi.metblogs.com/archives/images/2007/04/aprilmb/JC-israel.phtml

    Tell me who is following ISLAM more. ISRAEL or our beloved UMMAH. So stop acting as if enlightenment is only by ISLAM. It is universal & comes from inside & its greatly dependent upon society & tarbiyat & better understanding of others & respect for other faiths.

    And all the religions in the world preach this, in principle. We the MUSLIMs suddenly found out that our religion has been shouting for 1400 years to follow what is a basic ingredient in its ideology.

    Thats it
    PEACE


  10. TEE BEE (unregistered) on April 30th, 2007 @ 10:41 pm

    MB….u said it all and u said it well…could agree on ur comments more….the ultimate goal is to live and let live as i mentioned in some previous comments as well…….

    good thing u mentioned that we need to focus on more good things to adopt from the Prophet (SAW) rather than minute things….try to learn good and do good for the humanity rather then fighting like IDIOTS on beards, shalwar qameez, hijab, music, tv etc etc….

    I hope we try to be more liberal and morea rational rather then just believing in things/traditions just for the sake of it!!!!

    Enuff Said!!

    Live and PLEASE PLEASE let live!!!


  11. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on April 30th, 2007 @ 11:38 pm

    I’m amazed to learn that nobody tried to grasp what javeria was trying to say and all started fighting over burqa and bears. Pitty you so called educated people.

    MB mian, when a kid is admitted in school,he’s asked to wear uniform. Now the question is, should he not wear uniform unless get educated enough to learn the ethics of schools and society? Did you argue your parents why did you have to wear uniform and why were you not allowed to go school in your naikar and shirt? quite obvious, it’s one of the rule of school that you should be in uniform before getting into premesis of School. You gotta follow it!

    According to your and others theory , A young lad shouldn’t wear Army uniform unless he doesn’t complete his course at Kakool. Why doesn’t those young lads whine to be in civilian dress during training?

    I can get education in school without uniform, similary I can learn army training in my t-shirt and jeans. These things don’t hurdle in my learning then why am I asked to wear their uniforms? After all these are “minute things”, right Mr.Baweja? :-), after we should be more liberal rather following such lame things?

    The examples I gave were actually reflects the discpline in two different institutes. I believe Islam is more discplined than any other religion or an Institute. Offcourse keeping beard and wearing hijab is not guarantee of getting into Jannah, neither circling Ka’aba and getting into Ka’aba gurantee you to be a candidate of Jannah. Abu Jahal which you mentioned, would have gone infinite times inside black building of Ka’aba but his fate is not to go in Jannah while on other hand millions of people didn’t get chance to see Ka’aba in real life, forget to get into Ka’aba but they would be able to get into Jannah. Ibless, the damned Angel had performed more Ibadat than you and me and performed more Sajdas infront of Allah but since he refused to do one sajda infront of Allah, he was declared a Satan till day of Qayammah.It all depends how much you follow the basics.

    Should I not go to Masjid because i am not 100% sin free? I believe k merey hazar impure aur useless sajdoun k baad 1001th sajda tu pura hoga. That is,kabhi na kabhi tu hidyat hogi. Should I not keep beared because I am a culprit and perverted person? or people would taunt me as “Oh Mullah!” or “O molvi kidher jarahey ho?”. Bhai darakht per phool pehle ata hay Phal baad mey ata hay. Same goes with Hijab and beared. I would keep listening things from others and something would keep hitting me hard inside that I am cheating sunnah of beared by not following the religion and a day would come when I would start following the Islam in true sense as well, that would be the phase when the fruit would appear on tree.


    It’s just a a chance from one preference to other.

    Fine, if that’s their preference than others should accept it with open heart. If one feels comfortable in practising Islam in true sense then it’s none of others business. If someone doesn’t want to see burqa girls then just close his eyes. So simple! is mey ronay k kiya baat hay?


  12. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on May 1st, 2007 @ 12:05 am

    Back to the topic, Mansoor, its true that I started studying Islam as well as other Abrahmic religions after Iraq war 2003 because I used to join different IRC channels at that time and I used to hear/read very filthy things about Quran and Islam from christians,jews,aethists and followers of other relgiions. It was not a pleasent experience to read when those people useto compare Quran with toilet paper. As I mentioned before,it’s human nature that more you stop them to do something,more they will get tempted towards it. If you keep saying me all the time that “Dekho us galee me na jana woh boht kharab hay”, I will make more efforts Intentially to find out the reality. Yes I could be careless about it if you had not pursued me about the lane. Same happened with Islam, more it was opposed,more people got attracted towards it to know the reality and when they found it, they got blessed with Islam.

    However, I wouldn’t compare myself with people you mentioned on your blog or others who started studying Islam or became muslim after 9/11 because I believe those guys are practising Islam more accurately than several millions like me who are muslims because we closed our eyes in a Muslim family. We take Islam as granted while those guys take Islam as a Gift of God, a big difference!

    However, I am still thankful of Allah that He blessed me with several things in past 6/7 years which I couldn’t imagine in 90s. He gave me chance to perform Umrah in 2003, my first ever trip out of Pakistan and invited me to witnessed the amazing experience of birds[ababeels] circling[tawaf] Ka’aba like we humans do in anti-clock wise. For me that was the most amazing and unbeliveable experience because it was a true natural demonstration. For me, that was the gift of my creator which He gave me to believe in Him without seeing Him with naked eyes. At that time I understoof why non-muslims,specially aethists are not allowed to getinto Ka’ba premesis. I read a punjabi pharse somewhere Ishq na puchay zaat ,same goes with beliving in Allah. Dekh kar Usay mana tu kia mana, maza tu tab hay k baghair dekhay us say Ishq kiya jayee.

    Anyways, it’s a long journey and I have just taken first step, its a long way to go, several times i went offtrack as it’s not a child’s play to deal with your nafs.

    Unlike those mentioned muslims, I don’t have a mentor and one of the sunnah of Muhammad[saw] is to follow some mentor, that is doing “bayt”. This was later practised by All Sufis, from Imam Hanifa[RA] to Mujadid Alf Sani[RA]. Even Allama Iqbal used to follow his mentor.

    Anyways, After God, I will be always thankful to our darling neocons and then our darling liberals who’re playing a big role to spread Islam


  13. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on May 1st, 2007 @ 12:07 am

    s/closed our eyes/open our eyes :-)


  14. Kamran (unregistered) on May 1st, 2007 @ 4:01 am

    Dear Adnan

    Iblees is not a fallen or damned angel as the Bible says but a Jinn. A minute detail, but important nonetheless. Angels by definition never disobey Allah (SWT)


  15. yo yo (unregistered) on May 1st, 2007 @ 10:08 am

    Now seriously what is wrong is following the minute details?? like hijab and beard?


  16. Adnan (unregistered) on May 1st, 2007 @ 10:47 am

    Dear Kamran, I will confirm it. Thanks :-)


  17. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on May 1st, 2007 @ 11:26 am

    An intresting translation appeared in Sunday’s Jang about Islam in Australia. Surely those new muslims are lots of times better than us.

    tinyurl.com/2z6ghh

    I couldn’t find the actual article because I was unable to spell the surname of Mr.Paul hence Google returns NO result . Jang comesup with horrible translation of english words and names like Jang translates actor Dennis Quaid’s name as Dennis Quaid[as Quaid-e-Azam Jinnah] lol!
    Could someone tell me the actual spelling?


  18. wasiq (unregistered) on May 2nd, 2007 @ 2:56 am

    you’ll bring it from IRAN and from here you’ll take it at your own expense down to INDIA and maybe BANGLADESH….i want to salute your patience and determination…..GODSPEED my friend GODSPEED!!!


  19. JayJay (unregistered) on May 4th, 2007 @ 9:38 am

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/the-focus-on-religious-difference-is-what-is-widening-the-gap/2007/04/30/1177788050895.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

    “People have a right to be religious. It can be a great positive for the individuals and the communities they belong to. But when sections of the community are turning to a politicised religious practice because they feel a distance from the wider community, there is cause for concern.”



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