WeCite May 2007 issue out!

While the mainstream media in Pakistan is constantly under pressure from “authorities concerned” (as well as authorities unconcerned, authorities that have no authority, etc — you get the drift, roght?), citizen journalism has taken off like never before. More blogs and e-zines are coming up to provide a platform for all the voices that would otherwise have suffered a silent death.

The first issue of WeCite was published online in April 2006. The latest issue (May 2007) was uploaded today.

In the words of the management of the “randomly specific e-zine”:

Bolder… Naughtier… More direct than ever before!

It is Now ONLINE!!!

WeCite Entertainment’s May-June Issue is now accessible at www.wecite.net/

From social to political, fashion to lifestyle, opinions to criticism and a lot more!

View the power packed issue today at www.wecite.net

WeCite – Official Blog: http://wecite.wordpress.com

Dislaimer: When I said above that the mainstream media is under pressure, I did not neccessarily mean that it has succumbed to the pressure. “Hum parvarish-e-lauh-o-qalam kartey rahengey.” : )

43 Comments so far

  1. No.2 Balshvik (unregistered) on May 28th, 2007 @ 9:47 pm

    Aur mein aabru-e-hurmat-e-qalam dabota rahun ga.
    Itna bada funda


  2. BitterTruth (unregistered) on May 29th, 2007 @ 12:11 am

    Bolder than I thought. I wonder what this nation is capable of doing if there is no pressure from so called mullas. I believe that if so called liberals will stretch further in one direction, the reaction will be an more polarization.


  3. AJ (unregistered) on May 29th, 2007 @ 12:51 am

    I read one article posted by one of the female scribes nrrating her experience of going topless on a French beach. Well, I have been anti-mullah all my life, you can not call me part of the moral brigade. But this was a bit hard for me to digest, I guess for all my liberal leanings, I am not ‘sophisticated’ enough for such people. Shah of Iran tried to achieve something like this in his county,total westernisation of he culutre. Loook where is Iran now today.


  4. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on May 29th, 2007 @ 2:37 am

    ahha No.2 Balshvik :-)

    Nothing new on the site. Same stuff which one could find on any liberal/secular website/resource. My American friend says right:


    Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about


  5. wasiq (unregistered) on May 29th, 2007 @ 3:10 am

    well i must say


  6. Obi Wan Kenobi (unregistered) on May 29th, 2007 @ 4:39 am

    And what it has to do with Karachi ???? Please reply.


  7. Zainub (unregistered) on May 29th, 2007 @ 6:22 am

    There’s a very apt article on Karachi by our very own Urooj, its an excellent read, and I suggest it strongly. I quote one tiny bit of it here:

    The question that we, the citizens of Karachi, should be asking is not “Why Karachi?”, but given our general lack of interest in doing anything constructive at all, the question that we should be asking is, “Why NOT Karachi?” We sit back, sigh, maybe rant for a while in the comfort of our living rooms, and then go on with our petty daily lives while our homes are looted, our cell phones are snatched in public, our children are kidnapped and converted into misshapen beggars, our houses and shops are deprived of electricity and water, our government hospitals (and public beaches) stink of open sewer lines, and so on and so forth.

    And no, it is NOT the government’s fault. It is not the fault of “whoever-is-responsible”. It is OUR fault. We, the people of Karachi, are responsible for the current appalling state of our city. Owing to our indifference, we deserve to have this done to us, and to Karachi.

    On another note though, I’m not very impressed that the feature article on cricket on the main page has used 1 (possibly 2) of the images I uploaded on Flickr without attribution! Imitation is so not the best form of flattery.


  8. Zeeshan Syed (unregistered) on May 29th, 2007 @ 7:34 am

    What the hell is going on? Someone deleted my Comment only because I said that Musharraf provided us with a free Media!? What!? Are you guys THAT fucking biased!?


  9. Rabia Manzoor (unregistered) on May 29th, 2007 @ 11:26 am

    Thank you Bolshevik for mentioning us and to all of you for giving us your valuable input on the new issue.

    The article that ‘AJ’ mentioned (“Getting Comfy In Your Skin” by Miss WeCite) is actually something we did to incite this exact response on purpose. Perhaps many of you might not have seen but we drove a campaign against the recent ‘Sunday’s Face of the Year’ winner’s photo shoot (Neha Ahmed) in the Daily Times Sunday mag [http://wecite.wordpress.com/2007/04/24/sunday-olympus-face-of-2006-more-than-a-face/]. As balanced the response was, it prompted us to think as to what level can we actually go to and still consider certain norms ‘normal and acceptable’.

    We have received strong criticism on the article no doubt but surprising as it is, we have had several emails from guys and girls who shared THEIR experiences with us and appreciated it. Not to say that we are very happy about it but it points out to you that there is more to what we believe is acceptable to our people these days. It might be segregated and shrouded by status and class but it is very much there.

    As readers you have every right to agree or disagree with us and we appreciate your input non-the-less.

    Also, Zainub, I am really sorry if our graphics team/designers failed to mention you while developing/collecting images to support our articles. Please do provide me the links to these images and we will surely credit you.

    Rabia Manzoor
    Executive Editor (WeCite E-Zine)
    rabia.mzr@gmail.com


  10. Obi Wan Kenobi (unregistered) on May 29th, 2007 @ 12:05 pm

    Bolshevik, do you relaize you are misusing this platform for publicity of some xyz site. Having an article about Karachi is not enough to get a whole entry here. Please reply, I would like to hear your views about this.

    Zeeshan I guess your last comment should also be deleted due to use of profanity. Do you really expect some one to reply that comment? How about you ask again politely for a change? I am sure you would then get a reply.


  11. Bolshevik (unregistered) on May 29th, 2007 @ 1:54 pm

    @ Obi: Citizen journalism, in any form, deserves to be appreciated. WeCite has stuff from and about Karachi, as well as the rest of Pakistan. If you know about any other ezines, blogs, etc, let us know about them. If you have story ideas, the “Suggest a Story” text box is right there.

    I don’t see why I have to justify stuff to you, and I really DON’T understand what your problem is here. This applies to a lot of the other commentators on KMB too.

    Solution: If you don’t like something that’s posted, DON’T READ THE ENTRY, and PLEASE don’t bother commenting. Period. Capisce?


  12. Bolshevik (unregistered) on May 29th, 2007 @ 1:58 pm

    PS: Thanksies @ Zainub. That article is one of my most precious waaley babies! :D ~ UZi


  13. Bolshevik (unregistered) on May 29th, 2007 @ 2:00 pm

    @ Rabia: You’re welcome. : )


  14. Bolshevik (unregistered) on May 29th, 2007 @ 2:09 pm

    Zeeshan MiaN, I held your comment back, because it was OFF-TOPIC. And mind your language. ThanQ.


  15. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on May 29th, 2007 @ 2:11 pm


    I don’t see why I have to justify stuff to you, and I really DON’T understand what your problem is here. This applies to a lot of the other commentators on KMB too

    Why not? when you are part of a forum which is nothing but ZERO without participation of readers then you have to justify why you posted something. KMB is not your personal soapbox where you are free to rant anything you want without listening reasons of others.
    At one side you sent so criticize Musharraf here and in emails on his dictatorship attitude while you are on other side going on same path. Mush also says that he’s not answerable to anyone. Someone must redefine hypocrisy.


  16. Bolshevik (unregistered) on May 29th, 2007 @ 2:14 pm

    KMB is not your personal soapbox where you are free to rant anything you want without listening reasons of others.

    I agree. ; )


  17. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on May 29th, 2007 @ 2:22 pm

    Urooj, thanks for skipping other part though I am not surprised. so what do you say about Mush-like attitude of yours?

    On a side note, I wonder what DailyTime wanted to achieve[Ref: the link provided by Rabia Manzoor]?


  18. Bolshevik (unregistered) on May 29th, 2007 @ 2:31 pm

    Adnan merey bhai, thanQ for pointing out that I have a “Mush-like attitude” and whatnot. I will hereby proceed doobofy in chilloo-bhar paani. *spits in palm and drowns self* “Goodbye, cruel world” and all that jazz.

    Yaar subah subah dimagh ki dahi na kareiN. Shukriya. : )


  19. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on May 29th, 2007 @ 2:46 pm

    hehe, urooj bachpana gaya nahi :-). old tactics to run away but then ..still useful =)

    waise dimagh ki dahe karna k lie dimagh hona shart hay :-) and it’s afternoon not “subha” *grin*

    I know you will reply again.. ok, let’s see what comes now! =)


  20. Bolshevik (unregistered) on May 29th, 2007 @ 2:52 pm

    Bhai jaan, when you get off from work at 01:30 a.m., get home by 02:30 a.m., go to sleep by 04:00 a.m, and have to be back at work by somewhere between 11:30 a.m. and 01:00 p.m., tou iss waqt aap ki subah hee horahee hoti hai.

    I should stop procrastinating and get back to work now. Until later (maybe). Khuda pamaan.


  21. Obi Wan Kenobi (unregistered) on May 29th, 2007 @ 7:11 pm

    I don’t see why I have to justify stuff to you, and I really DON’T understand what your problem is here. This applies to a lot of the other commentators on KMB too.

    Bibi ever heard “respect begets respect” ??

    Any how your argument is so weak that it does not deserve reply. I certainly do not mind personal biases but your persistence is something to watch.
    One small request, please use proper english, not text english. It is very annoying to read that on this blog. Just a small consideration please.


  22. Bolshevik (unregistered) on May 29th, 2007 @ 7:19 pm

    @ Obi:

    respect begets respect
    My point exactly.

    please use proper english, not text english.
    Where have I used “text English”? Enlighten me, please. :P


  23. Obi Wan Kenobi (unregistered) on May 29th, 2007 @ 9:09 pm

    ThanQ Bolshivek for all your responses.


  24. wasiq (unregistered) on May 30th, 2007 @ 2:26 am

    thanks Rabia…you should have seen my face of the hour this hour…..


  25. BitterTruth (unregistered) on May 30th, 2007 @ 3:16 am

    we have had several emails from guys and girls who shared THEIR experiences with us and appreciated it.Not to say that we are very happy about it but it points out to you that there is more to what we believe is acceptable to our people these days

    if next time you wrote publish bedroom story you may find some guyz and gals to share their as well..what does it point out and what is the purpose to know what is acceptable to a small group of people.
    I request you not to drag the society towards a shameless life in the name of liberalism. The two extremes are equally dangerous.


  26. Bolshevik (unregistered) on May 30th, 2007 @ 3:33 am

    What bedroom story? O_O


  27. Salman A. (unregistered) on May 30th, 2007 @ 8:02 am

    @Bolshevik:
    Who’s this girl “Kiran Bokhari” who wrote / assumed to have written this article “Madonna – Erotica”? And why the hell did she steal this article from one magazine and pasted into another. CHORNI kaheen kee.. LOL

    Here’s an example:

    By Kiran Bokhari on WECITE.net:
    http://www.wecite.net/issues/may07/media/madonna-erotica.php

    Original Article (by Sal Cinquemani of SLANT magazine)
    http://www.slantmagazine.com/music/music_review.asp?ID=396

    I thought only politicians were making people CHUTIA but I am surprised to see that journalists have joined that club too..

    Bolshevik,
    Shame on you too for endorsing a ‘CHOR’.. how many other CHORS have they hired for this KACHRA (trash) magazime WECITE? I would request you to Post an article on these CHORON KA TOLA ‘ta ke unko koi sharam aaye’.. ULLOO ke … don’t even know how to STEAL ..LOL…

    seems like poora country SHORT CUT and BS per chal raha hai including the writers and news reporters.. doob maro, chullu bhar pani mein…….


  28. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on May 30th, 2007 @ 12:56 pm

    Salman, you seem right dude. The article on wecite is ditto of the link you provided. I tried to find reference of the orignal article but it seems kiran has posted the content as it was her work. Seems wecite is running by DT people which are already famous in stealing other people work ;)

    BTW, how did you search the link? did you paste the first few line in google and hit the SEARCH button? =)


  29. Bolshevik (unregistered) on May 30th, 2007 @ 1:35 pm

    Dear Mr Amjad,

    By agreeing to write for Karachi MetroBlogs (KMB) I have hereby pledged eternal slavery to our readers. I am therefore obliged to reply to all of your rants, even if you decide to bring it into my personal space (aka, my email inbox).

    Now to answer the concerns that you have raised, did you, for a moment, think that both articles might have been written by the same person and one might be under a pseudonym? I’m Bolshevik at KMB, but I’m Urooj Zia at Daily Times, and have a different nick at chowk.com. Now if you see the same article published in all three places, would you say that I plagiarized it? No master, I would have written it myself, only under different names.

    To make things easier for you to understand, master, I’ve added some definitions from dictionary.com here:

    pla¬∑gia¬∑rism: the unauthorized use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one’s own original work.

    pseu·do·nym: a fictitious name used by an author to conceal his or her identity; pen name. Compare allonym (def. 1).

    Even if the article WERE plagiarised, master, may I humbly remind you that you don’t have the right to refer to anyone as “chor.” A lot of hard work goes into bringing out a magazine, and the editors can’t really double-check each article. That’s where esteemed readers such as yourself come in, master. You can tell them that you believe that the article might not be original, and cite your reasons. Under no circumstances, however, are you allowed to diss anyone, master.

    I do not condone plagiarism. Being a journalist myself, I go ballistic if I find out that my articles have been stolen. But shame on you, master, for the kind of language that you used in your email. May I remind you about the culture and traditions of hospitality in the great land of Sindh that we Karachi’ites profess to be from.

    Thank you for your time, master.
    I remain,
    Your most humble slave,
    ~ Bolshevik.


  30. baazi (unregistered) on May 30th, 2007 @ 2:21 pm

    @bitterlie

    I wonder what this nation is capable of doing

    you mean falling down? touching the end depth of a sewer? right?

    @AJ there are foreign trolls pretending to be from amongnst us. one has to learn to weed them out.


  31. Bolshevik (unregistered) on May 30th, 2007 @ 2:26 pm

    yas yas beware the umbreekunn handses!!! :O


  32. baazi (unregistered) on May 30th, 2007 @ 4:47 pm

    This person bolshevik has lost his bearings.

    on one hand he says plagiarism is not chori and on the other he condones it as an act of stealing. lol


  33. Bolshevik (unregistered) on May 30th, 2007 @ 4:54 pm

    Bolshevik is a “she,” thank you very much. What she said was, plagiarism is condemnable. You cannot, however, say that something is plagiarised without absolute proof. The rest is mentioned in the reply that she wrote out to Mr. Amjad. “lol” indeed.


  34. Obi Wan Kenobi (unregistered) on May 30th, 2007 @ 7:35 pm

    Hi, Norm. Thanks for letting me know. I do not write under any aliases. Thanks again and thanks for reading!

    Sal Cinquemani
    Music Editor, Slant Magazine
    sal@slantmagazine.com
    salcin@optonline.net
    http://www.slantmagazine.com

    Original Message
    From: M N
    To: sal@slantmagazine.com
    Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:13 AM
    Subject: Plagiarism : Article “Madonna-Erotica”

    Hi Sal,

    During online surfing, I found your article posted on some other site with some different name. The links are as follows.

    By Kiran Bokhari on WECITE.net:
    http://www.wecite.net/issues/may07/media/madonna-erotica.php

    Original Article (by Sal Cinquemani of SLANT magazine)
    http://www.slantmagazine.com/music/music_review.asp?ID=396

    When I contacted Wecite, they told me that Kiran writes under the different name of Sal for SLANT. I just want to make sure that they are not misleading the readers and if it is a case of identity theft, please let us know.

    Thanks,

    Norm


  35. Bolshevik (unregistered) on May 30th, 2007 @ 7:40 pm

    Hmmm. Not good, then. Not good at all. I’ll talk to the WeCite ed about it. Thanks for forwarding this, Obi.


  36. Salman A. (unregistered) on May 30th, 2007 @ 8:15 pm

    Dear Bolshevik,
    The whole purpose of my post was to alert you of these ‘CHORs’ who steal other people’s article ‘word by word’ and paste it with their names. Please take a look and compare:

    By Kiran Bokhari on WECITE.net:
    http://www.wecite.net/issues/may07/media/madonna-erotica.php

    Original Article (by Sal Cinquemani of SLANT magazine)
    http://www.slantmagazine.com/music/music_review.asp?ID=396

    It was not just the idea or the concept that was stolen, the entire article was COPIED & PASTED as-is by this author.. after looking at the above links, it took me couple minutes to figure out ke kya chal raha hai..

    About you:
    My post was directed to Kiran Bokhari and the editor of that magazine NOT YOU, because they are the people who are cheating around with the readers. Are you Kiran Bokhari or the Editor of this WECITE magazine? If not, then why did you get offended? or are you also guilty conscious of COPYING & PASTING other people’s articles by your name? If your answer is NO, then tension nahi lene ka hai ..LOL….. instead take a chill pill and relax, trust me life is beautiful with or without you….. LOL…

    I hated the contents of that magazine link that you posted for multiple reasons.. First you are spreading ‘shamefulness’ in the society and then you are also stealing.. at least be original yaar.. LOL

    and when did I blame YOU for doing such stupid thing? bolo to, my dear my dear humble slave (since you gave yourself that name) :))))

    Best Regards (I mean it),
    Salman


  37. Bolshevik (unregistered) on May 30th, 2007 @ 8:34 pm

    Dear Mr Amjad,

    I understand that you sent that email to alert us about possible plagiarism issues, and like I said, I don’t endorse plagiarm either. I am not part of the WeCite editorial team, however, and emailing me about the issue was pointless.

    The entire point of my reply was to tell you that there are ways to do it: Obi has said the same thing that you did — I didn’t find his post offensive, though.

    Here’re the bits in your email that irked me no end:

    1) Bolshevik, Shame on you too for endorsing a ‘CHOR’

    2) I would request you to Post an article on these…

    The tone that you used in your email was offensive to me because I don’t like being ordered around — no one’s ordered me around ever, and I don’t intend to allow it to happen now either. If you want to suggest a story, please use the “suggest a story” box on the right of this page. My email inbox is not meant for this.

    Sincerely,
    ~ Bolshevik


  38. Salman A. (unregistered) on May 30th, 2007 @ 8:44 pm

    @adnan:
    “BTW, how did you search the link?”

    Answer: Google Zindabad.
    Googled first para, found the same article on SLANT, then middle para, same link.. finally last line of the article pointed me to the same URL.. then I checked the publish date and the backgroud of both the authors to make sure that they are not the alias of each other..

    Adnan, I spent a good 1/2 an hour and tried my best to prove myself wrong that WECITE was not cheating but havent had any luck.. poor me :)


  39. Salman A. (unregistered) on May 30th, 2007 @ 9:32 pm

    Bolshevik, you are losing your cool. what happened? please don’t act like 18 and confused. it irritates me….. ok sorry u r innocent.. happy?


  40. Bolshevik (unregistered) on May 30th, 2007 @ 9:45 pm

    Amjad saheb, please don’t make me use phrases such as the “pot calling the kettle black” because that would be utterly-butterly immature. : ) Obi has proved that the piece was plagiarised. End of discussion.


  41. Obi Wan Kenobi (unregistered) on May 30th, 2007 @ 9:46 pm

    Bolshivek, I really could not understand why did you try to defend Kiran by some stupid theory. I looked at Slant site and ran google on “Sal” (original author of article) and it did not take me a second to guess s/he could not be Kiran. Still I emailed Sal to confirmed and I got a reply within few minutes.

    How did you come up with the pseudonames theory ?? Was that trick of your mind to fool us ?? You took a time to teach us definitions of plagiarism but did not bother to have a look at Slant site or you always knew that story was copied/pasted. I can’t really understand the moral values of you. By the way do you know I did not believe your story of TT on your head for a second because of your record here at KMB.


  42. Bolshevik (unregistered) on May 30th, 2007 @ 10:12 pm

    Obi, I wasn’t defending anyone — all I was saying was the we’re quick to jump to conclusions. Like I’ve said before, I’m not part of the WeCite editorial team.

    My “record on KMB”? LOL!


  43. Obi Wan Kenobi (unregistered) on May 30th, 2007 @ 10:17 pm

    Whatever Bolshivek



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