Karachi, Karachi…

Due to the recent weather condition in the city, the deadlines for paying the utility bills has been stretched to June 30th. Seems like the government is really considerate about Karachittes. Though I read in a newspaper that the Nazim went to some rain affected place for a “dora” which the residents called a “Picnic tour”.

With all those CDGK “trucks” and tractors moving accross the city, it reminded me (God Forbid) of the situtaion in the earth quake areas. Huge trees bowing down, billboards (according to Mullah’s Azab-e-Ellahi due to semi-nude models displayed in advertisements accross the city), some broken walls of houses, electric poles not in place, the telephone lines disturbed, no water, no electricity only rain.

And some bunch of stupid people, despite of the storm news made sure to go to the beach and enjoy risking their lives so that the families have some thing to morn on and blame the government not to hold tides :-P

And then, as I last published, the fearing news of water catastrophe that Karachiites will (Khudana khwasta) be facing.

34 Comments so far

  1. Hasan Zuberi (unregistered) on June 28th, 2007 @ 6:36 pm

    @ Unaiza,

    The following statement; in the second para needs clarification:

    >> Huge trees bowing down, billboards (according to Mullah’s Azab-e-Ellahi due to semi-nude models displayed in advertisements accross the city),


  2. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on June 28th, 2007 @ 7:10 pm

    Hasan sahab very well said. Have you heard the urdu mohawara “Asmaan par thoka moo par ata hay”. I hope you got my point :-)


  3. Unaiza Nasim (unregistered) on June 28th, 2007 @ 7:32 pm

    hey guys, ok, it was a mistake accepted by me.
    it was Arbab Rahim nd not any mullah.
    my appologies.


  4. Hasan Zuberi (unregistered) on June 28th, 2007 @ 8:54 pm

    Unaiza, my clarification does not in any way meant for you only but is a general statement from a citizen of very same society.

    Recently I have witnessed an increase in fashion of dividing people as Mullah (extremists) and liberals (moderates) in the lines of West.

    It is unfortunate as we have started relying on the likes of TV-based doctors for our personal satisfaction (as their statements satisfies our liberal mind-set) … and in return usage of harsh & hard words for Ulema who spend literally more then 10 years (a decade) to be able to give a fatwa.

    May Allah guide us all to the right path.


  5. Salman A. (unregistered) on June 28th, 2007 @ 9:35 pm

    branding Ulemas as Mullahs is absolutely ridiculous and totally unjustified.. in this post 9/11 era, there is a need of Ulemas and true religious scholars more than ever since the media (tv, radio, internet, newspapers) are all busy doing anti-islamic propaganda all over the world..

    our problem is, we have “a less knowledge is more dangerous” kind of Mullahs in abundance and that has changed the perception of an actual scholar in the mind of common man…. our masses are confused and are unable to distinguish between a mullah and an Ulema..


  6. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 12:07 am

    unaiza, how come you didn’t make correction in your orignal post after admitting mistake? Is edit post button not working anymore?


  7. Balma (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 1:55 am

    Oh, I have to step in.

    Mullah is always used as an insulting term for jahils who pretend to know about religion and are generally jahil about tboth, this world and the other.

    The terms Maulana and Maulvi were, and I repeat, were titles of honor. For example, Maulvi Abdul Haq was not a mullah in the sense the word mullah is used today. He is called Baba-e-Urdu and founded Urdu College in Karachi. Similarly, Maulana Muhammad Ali Jauhar (Tehreek-e-Khilafat, Congress, and Muslim league) was Aligarh Univ graduate, played cricket, got MA from Oxford, and was founder of Jama’a Millia (even this term is now hijacked by illiterate mullahs in Karachi) which was a university he founded in Aligarh (later moved to Dehli) when he thought that Aligarh Univ was just a British Govt chamchee.

    Similarly, Maulana Hasrat Mohani a Muslim League leader was also an Aligarh Univ graduate. Until recently, Maulana, Allama, and Molvi were titles for educated Muslims, just like Pandit was for Hindus. Another example, is Allama enayat ullah Mashriqi of Panjab who was actually Tripos wrangler in Mathematics (of every thing) from Cambridge Univeristy. For any Muslim to top Math B.A. program in Cambridge, he must be a genious. He went cuckoo later on and founded Majlis…. (oh can’t remember the name now) which tried to kill Jinnah in Dehli or Lahore. Mullah was always an insulting term. You see many of them on KMB.

    btw, Maulana Hasrat Mohani got pissed at Jinnah in August 1947 when Jinnah after getting votes of Muslims in the Muslim Minorty provinces (in United Provinces of Avadh and Agra (UP), CP, etc) advised them to remain in India and become good citizens of India. Abay uloo, yehee sub karnaa thaa to Pakistan kyoo’n banayaa aur oos kay liyae all India level per elections /referendum kee kyaa zaroorat thee.

    Anyway, Hasrat Mohani got pissed and joined UP assembly (or Indian’s Central Assembly in Dehli) and became a leader of the remaining Indian Muslim league.

    Also, for the experts in Mullah-pun at KMB, please don’t imply jihad only means war. That is not the only meaning of the word jihad, and you Mullahs who love using Arabic words unnecessarily on KMB should know this. Also, FYFI, no Mullah is needed for nikah. You need witnesses, not mullah..samajh may aayaa Mullahs?


  8. anon (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 3:33 am

    Irrespective of the “ulema” vs “mulla” debate, I really wonder what possesses so many religiously-inclined people to always blame every natural disaster on “God’s wrath for our sins and corruption”. From Katrina to the Asian tsunami to the Kashmir earthquake, there’s always some fundo who’ll jump on the opportunity (on top of the sufferings of the victims, who’re predominantly poor) to make their own political point, to shine some publicity on their own head.

    And it’s not just our muslim fundos … Rev Pat Robertson is one of the most prominent Christian preachers in the US. After 9/11, he made some similar remarks on how the US deserved it because of all the “vulgarity, homosexuality, prostitution” prevelant in the US.
    So you can see how at a fundemental level they’re all the same… religion just manages to corrupt their minds into analyzing everything as an act or judgement of God without paying any attention to the people who’re actually suffering, and without contributing anything that would actually prevent such widespread devestation when the next tragedy hits (building better houses, sturdier billboards, improving civic infrastructure, better emergency facilities etc).


  9. Zeeshan Syed (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 7:04 am

    The debate is totally offtopic! Unaiza, let me ask you something. Do you write here just for the sake of increasing the number of your posts?What is the very


  10. Zeeshan Syed (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 7:06 am

    What is the very purpose of this post?


  11. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 11:35 am

    balma, who was asking for your fatwas here? We dont even care if you start living with some woman without a NIKAH. you yourself giving fatwas while cursing to mullahs? tsk tsk shame on you.

    @Anon: Every action of ALlah has some purpose. I hope yuou do believe that natural disasters are ACTUALLY sent by God or you believe it’s just a scientific phenomenon with no involvement of God?

    Those who curse mullahs actually demonstrate their background. Such people always offend their elders whether they are parents,teachers or someone else. Such people are parhey likhay jahil. Iwonder whether unaiza respects elders in her susral or use same term for them as well?


  12. Ramla A. (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 11:57 am

    [i]Though I read in a newspaper that the Nazim went to some rain affected place for a “dora” which the residents called a “Picnic tour”.[/i]

    I am not their (Nazim’s) friend, but what these people do is hard work.

    Yeh sahee nahi ke ham har kaam karney walay par tanqeed karain. It doesn’t feel right. A simple tongue-wag, and a reconnaissance tour is turned into “picnic tour.” What’s picnic about having to manage a disaster, when people blame “the government” to the point that it seems like the government blew up the storm itself!

    Is there a general declaration amongst humanity that those who “manage” a disaster or situation must be exactly in the place of those they are helping? How will they help then? Empathy by the management is one thing, but acting miserable just for the sake of pleasing people is another.

    Is “government” becoming a catch-all for all personal failures? Most citizens of Pakistan – rural or urban – won’t give a damn to civic engagement and participation. Our reaction to the challenges of life is a state of mental self-pity and “ham to barbaad hogaye!” Why be so sarcastic abt the government?

    Open questions.


  13. Ramla A. (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 12:11 pm

    On the 25th, I met the country coordinator of Pak-chapter of a global youth-based NGO I had never heard of; I discovered them while promoting an entrepreneurship course, via the Internet.

    Their young members, under the age of 21, are working daily on volunteer projects with the CDGK (City District Government of Karachi). The CDGK and the NGO design the project in alignment – project ideas are typically initiated by youth of age 15-18. CDGK assists them in implementing and carrying out real-life community project. I met the project leader, a young man of around 20 years of age who is overseeing projects such as English summer camp for the underprivileged, and cleaning drives amongst others.

    The coordinator told me that media does not respond to their press releases, nor covers the events. In one confrontation with an assignment desk editor, when she said out of frustration, “Then only a blast or a fire is real news to you? You won’t cover anything else?”, the reporter said, “Yes!”

    Finally the media turned up when one of their student exchange programs with USA had an invite sent in by the US Consulate!

    Speaking of media reports, I was with a university dean once when he received a phone call. An education-ministry related official was online: he was complaining that the education desk reporter of a prominent private TV Channel was soliciting “bhatta” from school owners or threatening them with reporting negative news about their school.

    And I have seen media employees posing as “general public,” giving their opinions on the decline of cinema industry in a reputed talk-show.

    Media, though it’s acting all sanctimonious and people’s leader, has its own Achilles’ Heel. They also have “agendas” and “priorities.” Just because something was written in a paper does not it should be passed on as fact.

    Rule of thumb about (libelous) hearsay: Don’t pass it on.


  14. Ramla A. (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 12:30 pm

    Quote: And I have seen media employees posing as “general public,” giving their opinions on the decline of cinema industry in a reputed talk-show.

    This didn’t refer to “dramatized events,” which is legit, but employees giving in a vox pop (people’s opinion), pretending to be members of general public. At any rate, plenty of times, opinions sought from the “public” even in main news are scripted. Fed by the crew to an unassuming member of the general public.


  15. Unaiza Nasim (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 12:55 pm

    @Ramla: I guess you took it wrong or you need to read it more carefully.
    “With all those CDGK “trucks” and tractors moving accross the city…”
    I do appreciate the work done by the CDGK this rainy season, whatever the reasons be.


  16. anon (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 1:23 pm

    @adnan:
    obviously natural disasters are caused by scientific phenonmenon. earthquakes and tsunamis are caused by plate tectonics, hurricanes and cyclones are caused by the mechanics of weather systems. we’ve always attributed such disasters to a God (whether muslim, jewish, hindu, greek, parsi) because only NOW have we come to understand at some level how these things happen. if you want to believe that your God comes in and moves the earth’s crust by exerting some unseen force, that’s your business. but at the very least you should admit that your time would be better spent helping the victims and doing something to improve the civic infrastructure than the usual lamenting of society and how it’s losing it’s values. that propoganda has been there for thousands of years now… society will ALWAYS keep changing, and culture will always keep evolving because of advances in technology or political and environmental pressures. so stop whining about it already and actually do something useful.
    but i guess you’d rather show your jahalat by making cheap taunts at another girl and speculating how they behave in their susrals. if that’s how you want to argue or debate about something, then you have a real gutter mentality and it doesn’t matter how much you defend your religious institutions and profess your religious morality, even by those standards you’ll go to hell.


  17. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 1:45 pm


    cheap taunts at another girl and speculating how they behave in their susrals

    If that girl was not taught how to refer elders than it’s not harmful to ask how she refers elders who are beloved to her. So vomit out anger at right place pls. if she herself don’t know how to respect elderly figures then how come she teach her own kids in future.?

    your argument about scientific reasons is very hollow. Being a computer programmer myself, I have created automated systems which respond at certain event. Now if some one says that there was NO involvement of mine in that system just because system is not dependant on em directly then it would be a very foolish idea. The problem doesnt lie in those who drag God in the middle. Problem lie in people like you who are unable to comprehend actions of God just because your little brain can’t comprehend it.


    by those standards you’ll go to hell.

    Thanks for your fatwa. I didnt know ur a god *grin*


  18. Citizen (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 2:40 pm

    BAD WORKER in Gulsnan-e-Iqbal Town

    A man named NISAR SOOMROO who works in the City Government Gulsnan-e-Iqbal Town & handles Complaints for maintenance of street lights & other things is a BAD MANNERED person who comes to his office LATE & delays work of the Gulshan Town citizens.

    This is not good for the respect of Gulshan Town Administration.

    He has been in the same office for over 6 years, he was once transfered but, then again he somehow managed to get back in the same office.

    He was in the same office of the City Government Gulsnan-e-Iqbal Town when Jamat-e-Islami’s, Naimatulah Khan was Nazim of Karachi & now when MQM,s City Nazim Mustafa Kamal is in power he is still in the same office.

    Even in banks officers are transfered after 3 years, but NISAR SOOMROO was transfered somewhere else & was AGAIN transfered back to the same office. Now he is in the same office since more then 4 years, to bug people. I hope some action is taken against NISAR SOOMROO.


  19. Hasan Zuberi (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 2:44 pm

    @ Adnan:

    Bhai as you said in your first reply …. I am with you all the way :P.

    @ ANON:

    It is between Believers & non-believers …. Believers are given this name for the fact that they believe in an unseen, i.e. God (Allah). And as per the faith everything, good or bad, comes from Allah … be it wrath in the shapes of disasters (Tsunami, earthquake, floods or storms) It is stated in Quran, if you know, the holy book of muslims, that Allah shows his wrath when he sees that majority of people have left the righteous path.

    Now you might be thinking, that when it comes from God, why people to be blame for wrong-doings … simple answer Allah has left it on our Aql-o-Fehm (intellect & understanding) to decide between good & bad … e.g. it is upto us to stop at a red light or cross it though we know it is against the rule of law.

    @ Ramla:

    No doubt Nazim is doing alot … also because this being an election year and after the May 12 incident which caused great citisism for him & his party.

    Other then that; he is active, young and energetic.

    But what do you suggest is the reaosn of putting up party flags on the suction pumps cleaning the roads or the garbage dumpers cleaning the area and (before privitisation) on KESC vehicles. ??


  20. Citizen (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 2:53 pm

    A BAD WORKER IN GULSHAN-E-IQBAL TOWN.

    A man named NISAR SOOMROO who works in the City Government Gulsnan-e-Iqbal Town & handles Complaints for maintenance of street lights & other things is a BAD MANNERED person who comes to his office LATE & delays work of the Gulshan Town citizens.

    This is not good for the respect of GULSHAN TOWN Administration.

    He has been in the same office for over 6 years, he was once transfered but, then again he somehow managed to get back in the same office.

    He was in the same office of the City Government GULSHAN-E-IQBAL Town when Jamat-e-Islami’s, Naimatulah Khan was Nazim of Karachi & now when MQM,s City Nazim Mustafa Kamal is in power he is still in the same office.

    Even in banks officers are transfered after 3 years, but NISAR SOOMROO was transfered somewhere else & was AGAIN transfered back to the same office. Now he is in the same office since more then 4 years, to bug people. I hope some action is taken against NISAR SOOMROO.


  21. JayJay (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 6:09 pm

    Hasan Zuberi wrote, “Allah shows his wrath when he sees that majority of people have left the righteous path”.

    It does not explain why Allah’s wrath seems to hit underdeveloped, often religious, nations more than developed secular countries. If Allah’s wrath has to target nude signboards, I wonder why do the nudest of nude billboards, in the decadent West, get spared. Allah’s wrath appears very third world centric.

    Try that: http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=library&page=atkins_18_2


  22. Zeeshan Syed (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 6:41 pm

    RAMLA: You have been SPOT ON. People here put every little blame on the government. I saw a few political leaders on the TV blaming the current government for this tropical storm! I mean What the hell!? They won’t come out from their luxurious homes and put their political differences behind and work to rescue people or provide relief effort!

    As for the Media, again Ramla you are right on the money. I have said it before and I’ll say it again, our MEDIA is not at all an angel. They are Biased. All of them, none shows the true essence of journalism! But channels like AAJ TV should be forced to stop airing ASAP. GEO is powerful and uses its power to spread the word THEY want to spread. GEO spreads fire and hatred all around! Recently, MEDIA personels arranged small rallies in front of LAL MASJID and no I didn’t read it, I SAW IT. They would gather people, tell them what to do and they would do that!

    UNAIZA: Honey you really need to see the big picture and THEN start posting. I’m sorry but your posts are always rediculous and you never make sense and you stay biased and you are certainly not doing a good job for KMB and I hope that one day or the other, the owners of KMB actually start to take notice of authors like you.

    HASAN ZUBERI: Regardless if they put their banners (that IS a cheap way to get promotion) on cat machines or pumping machines, I don’t give a damn about that as long as they are working. Your comments are contradictory! You are also appreciating the Nazim becuase he is young and because he is working and all and then you got a problem when he is trying to promote his party while he is at it? I would rather have a party which puts up flags on every little damn thing or even shove it up their a** but they have GOT to work. Not like past where every single government ignored Karachi and not even develop a single new road for years! STOP your useless complaining.

    CITIZEN: You should get in touch with Mustafa Kamal about this. At least forward the word to the higher level. I hope this Nisar Somro guy gets fires for not doing his job properly!

    JAYJAY: I agree! Just the way we put all the blames on Government, there is a growing tradition of involving Allah’s azab in every little thing. I am with you on this!


  23. Balma (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 7:32 pm

    * Adnan wrote
    balma, who was asking for your fatwas here? We dont even care if you start living with some woman without a NIKAH. you yourself giving fatwas while cursing to mullahs? tsk tsk shame on you.

    ***** Actually, that is not true. Once you and your types find out I am living with a woman you and your gang will be jalsaa-jaloosing outside my place against fahaashi etc. So, don’t pretend that you believe in “live and let live”.

    Also, I can give fatwas because I am educated. Most of your mullas are not educated in anything.
    And, my post was actually favorable to educated muslims being called Maulana / Maulvi historically (but not today) and tried to explain that the term ‘Mulla’ has always been derogatory. For example, muhavaras like ‘mulla kee dauR masjid tak’.


  24. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on June 30th, 2007 @ 12:28 am

    zeeshan,atleast I agree with you regarding content of unaiza’s posts.

    @balmay: lol,acha bhai deyta rahay fatway. Atleast Mullah masjid tak tu jata hay tumhara tu kuch pata nahi :-)


  25. anon (unregistered) on June 30th, 2007 @ 1:04 am

    @adnan:
    how is cursing mullahs the same as cursing elders? mullahs are targets of people’s wrath because they are people in power and authority… they rule over other people’s lives, and they exert authority, often at the expense of the people they control. they are a legitimate target of criticism. just because you revere them so much doesn’t mean anyone else has to defer to their authority. for you to get personal about it, and accuse this person and speculating how they behave in their susral, is just a cheap taunt, and completely unnecessary. i’m sure you wouldn’t like people randomly speculating on what you do in your personal life, or say something bad about you or your family, just because you happen to have a particular point of view.
    as for automated systems… all you’re doing is abstracting really complicated natural phenomenon, and just because we don’t understand them completely (yet), you say this is God’s actions, and blame the destruction on X (where X is anything you don’t like). this has been happening for centuries, well before islam, well before monotheism. it’s not an original islamic thought.


  26. Balma (unregistered) on June 30th, 2007 @ 3:25 am

    Adnan, mai’n bhee masjid tak jaataa hoo’n, laikin logon ko raah-e-raast per laanay kay liyae:-)
    Cease Fire!


  27. IUnknown (unregistered) on June 30th, 2007 @ 2:11 pm

    unaiza, here u have got a bit more offensive abt Mullahs. Dont u think its azab of ALLAH?
    If u think nudity is a sin , off course.


  28. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on June 30th, 2007 @ 2:31 pm

    anon, if you were given proper education then you wouldnt have asked that silly question. If teacher is an elderly figure like parents then molvi is an elderly religious figure. If you are outside of pakistan then learn some ethics from Jews or christians or even hindus that how do they respect their religious figures.

    as far as scientific stuff, i did reply on other post of unaiza . read there.


  29. unaiza nasim (unregistered) on June 30th, 2007 @ 4:12 pm

    @ Adnan Siddiqi: Oh, so now I understand y u r still single.
    What goes in my susral or between me and my hubby is noone of ur convcerns.
    Put ur energies in finiding a nice girl to get hook up to. Might fix the flaws in you:-)
    Be a man.Write what is required.


  30. unaiza nasim (unregistered) on June 30th, 2007 @ 4:12 pm

    @ Adnan Siddiqi: Oh, so now I understand y u r still single.
    What goes in my susral or between me and my hubby is none of yur concerns.
    Put ur energies in finiding a nice girl to get hook up to. Might fix the flaws in you:-)
    Be a man.Write what is required.


  31. unaiza nasim (unregistered) on June 30th, 2007 @ 4:17 pm

    @IUKNOWN:
    Hey, no offenses, I agree its all Azab-e-Ellahi and nudity is a sin.
    I accepted it was posted wrong. Why I didnt corect is the policy o what has been published is a history.
    I appologise again, it was the CM.


  32. JayJay (unregistered) on June 30th, 2007 @ 5:16 pm
  33. Balma (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 3:43 am

    Abay Muhammad, tujhay p’hir budhazmi ho gayee?
    Too kiss chhotay pind kaa hai, joo itnee idiotic baatai’n likhtaa hae? Remember! eat well, lots of vegetables. Meet and paraaThaas are causing qabz and gases and that leads to wierd dreams in your case. At least, spare us and don’t report your dreams on KMB. And, remember that it is OK to write in Urdu or PAnjabi…your English is very bad and hard to understand. And you are not putting your cross and star of david symbols these days! btw, are you a christian evangilist? Nothing wrong, except only if you wrote some sense!


  34. ShahidnUSA (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 11:25 pm

    Mr Bulma You are funny every single time. Cheer up these people ,
    they are so dipressed.



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