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Less than six months later, the Karsaz Flyover is in urgent need of repairs. Being part of the route to transport foreigners living in Karsaz, it receives special attention when it comes to maintenance and security.

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47 Comments so far

  1. pkhan (unregistered) on July 11th, 2007 @ 7:18 pm

    Whats wrong in rapairs and maintenance? You mean to say let it deterioate and then repair. I think 90% of the time it is used by our ordinary people and even if it is used by Foreigner(Mahajir) like you,its ok to do the maintenance.


  2. Ahmed (unregistered) on July 11th, 2007 @ 7:20 pm

    Like any other city in the world, special attention is given to some roadways than others. There is nothing “special” about this “special attention”


  3. mansoor (unregistered) on July 11th, 2007 @ 7:47 pm

    pkhan: tsk tsk.. arent we getting all worked up over our petty differences. maybe you should take a class in tolerance?

    the point was, it was supposed to last atleast a year before needing repairs again. The same has happened with the nursery flyover, where repairs were put off till the last moment, and while driving over it, unaware drivers received a nasty jolt just when starting to descend towards SF.


  4. umar (unregistered) on July 11th, 2007 @ 7:50 pm

    the “special” thing about it is that it needs repairs just 6 months after it was constructed… now this might not look like a big deal to many, but if you compare with international standards, it’s pretty bad because quality roads don’t break in 6 months under normal circumstances…

    but at least they are getting the repairs… which is a good thing nevertheless.


  5. pkhan (unregistered) on July 11th, 2007 @ 8:05 pm

    @ Mansoor
    Yes , sure truth is hard to swallow, and Tolerance about what ? About so called Foreigner?


  6. mansoor (unregistered) on July 11th, 2007 @ 8:11 pm

    generally, tolerance should be for human kind in general, but im assuming that you’re so into your segregating people based on their culture and stuff, that you may not even ‘consider’ them human?

    my dear sir, do onto others as you wish others do onto you.. be tolerant… for the next time you would need someone else to be tolerant to you.. u just may regret it.


  7. Ahmed (unregistered) on July 11th, 2007 @ 8:19 pm

    Umar – Agreed. this should not have happened.

    On a positive note, work is being done to repair the damage.


  8. zee (unregistered) on July 11th, 2007 @ 9:13 pm

    P”KHAN”: You sound like a muhajir do. Khans mostly do not belong to Karachi. Stop the bitching!

    MANSOOR: Yup, that’s bad! Real bad! I am pretty sure that CDGK will take strict action agains the contractor. I guess it was a chinese company that was doing the job. Anyway, better repair than no repair. At least it’s not dangerous like Drig Colony Bridge or Natha Khan Bridge at SF. Repairs are good. No maintenance is bad!


  9. zealous (unregistered) on July 11th, 2007 @ 9:17 pm

    pkhan

    looks like you need serious help. go to mental hospital because loser like you create keeps on creating differences among Pakistanis. we are not foreigner actually afgans like you are the foreigner


  10. BitterTruth (unregistered) on July 11th, 2007 @ 9:40 pm

    I am pretty sure that CDGK will take strict action agains the contractor.
    yup he is in trouble now..time to submit another bag to “90”.


  11. Ahmed (unregistered) on July 11th, 2007 @ 9:41 pm

    Clearly the post shows how a simple road work issue can divide people of Pakistan ready to fight about being pathan and muhajir. GET OVER IT and FOCUS ON THE ISSUE!


  12. pkhan (unregistered) on July 11th, 2007 @ 10:42 pm

    @ Mansoor @ Zee
    Sure, you guys have lot of Tolerance? What % of Foreigner Live in City. Why did you make your Blog looks like Every thing in the city happens for the FOREIGHNER? There is only 2% Actual Foreighner in the city. Ghulami sae niklae huwae 60 saal hogae laikin Zahaneet abhi tak Gulamo jaesee hae kae har baat main America or Foreighner ko lana zaroori hae.

    @ Zealou
    Be a Pakistani not act like Muhajir, otherwise you will become Muhajir one more time but this time no one will accept you. Go and see Peer Baba?


  13. Adil Mulki (unregistered) on July 11th, 2007 @ 10:50 pm

    @ Ahmed
    totally agree with you. I guess its time to construct and mend bridges of another kind.
    …Hum kay thehray ajnabi kitni mulaqaton lay baad,
    phir baneingey aashna hum kitni madaraton kay baad,
    …… Kab nazar mein ayegi baydag subzay ki bahar,
    khoon kay dhabay dhuleingey kitni barsaton law baad (Faiz on the fall of Dhaka – my apologies if i couldn’t recall the words correctly)
    not many things have changed in the land of the poor (pure) i guess :(
    i guess its visit Pakistan year and we can give a new meaning to the phrase …”Where time stands still.”


  14. Adil Mulki (unregistered) on July 11th, 2007 @ 10:55 pm

    I’m using my cell to post comments , my apologies for the typos :)


  15. Sohail (unregistered) on July 11th, 2007 @ 11:27 pm

    I can still remember that about some 10 years back an uncle of mine came from US and remarked that you guys don’t seem to have “maintenance” in Pakistan. Later on I also learned that maintenance of any project is more important than the actual construction. And we as a nation doesn’t seem to care about it a lot and treat it as a wastage. And for the signal-free corridor-I project, I think that there is a good maintenance agreement with the builders. Now this is good thinking on part of the CDGK.


  16. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on July 12th, 2007 @ 12:17 am


    Being part of the route to transport foreigners living in Karsaz, it receives special attention when it comes to maintenance and security.

    If I am not wrong, mansoor is being sarcastic that flyover receives special attention due to foreigners.

    I could be wrong though :>


  17. Thomasina (unregistered) on July 12th, 2007 @ 12:33 am

    Not sure about the nursery flyover, however the FTC flyover seems pretty unreliable. You can actually feel the bridge vibrating sharply during peak traffic hours.

    …And imagine the amount of time that went into building that thing. Its saddening.


  18. br0ke (unregistered) on July 12th, 2007 @ 12:39 am

    do what i do when i see this sorta maintenance…
    i drive away with one of their pile ons(orange cones).


  19. verysamrt (unregistered) on July 12th, 2007 @ 1:43 am

    pkhan… go back to fucking afghanistan plz.. and dont ever use the word muhajir ever… we are the sons of thie soil.


  20. Ahmed (unregistered) on July 12th, 2007 @ 1:45 am

    I finally found a decent Karachi City Government website.

    http://www.karachicity.gov.pk/index.asp

    You might want to download and review this report. it is 25 MB but well worth the read.

    http://www.karachicity.gov.pk/doc/FinalReportV3%5B1%5D.doc


  21. ShahidnUSA (unregistered) on July 12th, 2007 @ 1:45 am

    @ BROKE
    and what you do with those cones. Put it in you bedroom as your imaginary girlfriends? :)


  22. FARAZ (unregistered) on July 12th, 2007 @ 1:46 am

    It’s fascinating how something like the repair of a fly-over can cause some to show their true colors.

    By the way, Mansoor do you know what they are repairing? Are they repainting the lanes or fixing holes in the bridge which is a lot more serious? Don’t take this the wrong way, but I wish you had included a few more details in this post.


  23. ShahidnUSA (unregistered) on July 12th, 2007 @ 2:53 am

    Cities do give special attention to the places where tourists and visitors hangs out. Why? Because they bring the foriegn exchange and expertize (techniques and knowledge) which is good for the local economy.
    (so its a win win situation)
    You get your city repaired and get valued currency
    :)

    btw. off the subject but these visitors are strictly informed about respecting the local laws, custom and religion.


  24. JAY (unregistered) on July 12th, 2007 @ 3:30 am

    Mansoor and other’s who agree with this post. Yes, repair are done after the flyovers are finished and can be done within 1 month. I live in ME and here it happens quite a lot even today i can say i spotted few repairs on the roads which was just finished. So i dont see any problem with it. On the positive note, appreciate the efforts of the people who are doing these works as they have not abandoned it after raising it.

    @PKHAN.
    Youre bullshit is totally unacceptble. Their is no issue of mohajir,punjabi or whatever you are. We are all Pakistani’s and that is what we should remmember. We are brothers and we should correct others and ourselves if you feel something is wrong and correct it in a positive attitude that other should not feel bleak.


  25. zee (unregistered) on July 12th, 2007 @ 4:50 am

    @Mansoor @Zee
    Sure, you guys have lot of Tolerance? What % of Foreigner Live in City. Why did you make your Blog looks like Every thing in the city happens for the FOREIGHNER? There is only 2% Actual Foreighner in the city. Ghulami sae niklae huwae 60 saal hogae laikin Zahaneet abhi tak Gulamo jaesee hae kae har baat main America or Foreighner ko lana zaroori hae.

    PKHAN: And what about you? Where did your ancestor come from? Oh wait, oh yes, from rat holes built in moutains sticking guns up their asses! As for this GHULAMI thing, it’s because of these immigrants that you call Muhajirs that good for evil people like you live in a free country or you would have still been busy making love to men and living in your dirty little rat holes WHILE being living under GHULAMI. Oh no, wait… you STILL do all that BUT, because of us, you get the chance of visiting, living and surviving in the city that us ghulams made to feed this whole poor country.

    Karachi has over 2 crore popullation and out of which only 80 lacs are those “muhajirs”. Dude, it’s the other way around, the rest of the 1.2 crores are the muhajirs! Now scram!!


  26. zee (unregistered) on July 12th, 2007 @ 4:53 am

    @Mansoor @Zee
    Sure, you guys have lot of Tolerance? What % of Foreigner Live in City. Why did you make your Blog looks like Every thing in the city happens for the FOREIGHNER? There is only 2% Actual Foreighner in the city. Ghulami sae niklae huwae 60 saal hogae laikin Zahaneet abhi tak Gulamo jaesee hae kae har baat main America or Foreighner ko lana zaroori hae.

    The post in italic above was the original post from PKHAN and not MY reply. Below of course is my post that I made earlier. I just did not want anyone to think that I said all that to myself and mansoor. Sorry about the confusion if any.

    PKHAN: And what about you? Where did your ancestor come from? Oh wait, oh yes, from rat holes built in moutains sticking guns up their asses! As for this GHULAMI thing, it’s because of these immigrants that you call Muhajirs that good for evil people like you live in a free country or you would have still been busy making love to men and living in your dirty little rat holes WHILE being living under GHULAMI. Oh no, wait… you STILL do all that BUT, because of us, you get the chance of visiting, living and surviving in the city that us ghulams made to feed this whole poor country.

    Karachi has over 2 crore popullation and out of which only 80 lacs are those “muhajirs”. Dude, it’s the other way around, the rest of the 1.2 crores are the muhajirs! Now scram!!


  27. Manish M (unregistered) on July 12th, 2007 @ 10:29 am

    @Mansoor…..I think these are not repairs, but guardrails are being added. Granted that they should have been a part of the actual construction process, but you’ve portrayed their addition as a major emergency, “urgent repairs”!!!!!!!


  28. mansoor (unregistered) on July 12th, 2007 @ 11:38 am

    faraz: it is interesting to see that…. how many people just vent out their frustration is mind boggling! live and let live tou ab alien concept hai idhar tou :(

    faraz & manish: guard rails are being added as well (which is good!), the fault was where the midsection of the bridge connected with the downward spiral going towards SF. They got out of sync resulting in a big bump. A similar situation was seen with Nursery flyover, which has also been repaired recently.


  29. Kashif (unregistered) on July 12th, 2007 @ 11:43 am

    We work to create more work. Why not build a thing with total quality management so that it won’t need repairs every other day. Whenever I pass through Liaquatabad underpass, there is some sort of work going on. Sometimes they close half of the entrance and vehicles have to enter the underpass in single queue. So much for the traffic flow.

    It’s not just the flyovers, its everywhere. All the roads (that I have seen) which were built or carpeted in last 5-6 months are again under repairs. It seems that development budget has to be exhausted before the term ends.


  30. Anony (unregistered) on July 12th, 2007 @ 1:24 pm

    Have you guys checked out the Hasan Square flyover? It seems to be caving in at one place when going from Stadium towards Gareebabad.


  31. Bolshevik (unregistered) on July 12th, 2007 @ 5:35 pm

    and what you do with those cones. Put it in you bedroom as your imaginary girlfriends? :)

    *falls off chair laughing*


  32. pkhan (unregistered) on July 12th, 2007 @ 11:06 pm

    @ Man Soor
    @ Zee
    Both of you well done and good reply, these are the behaviour of intolerant people, whose ancestor might have come from a Hindu Maharaja? For sure you are very afraid of KHAN’S.


  33. d0ct0r (unregistered) on July 13th, 2007 @ 2:33 am

    @Pkhan are all MQM’s supporter like you?


  34. Saad Ibrahim Lakhany (unregistered) on July 13th, 2007 @ 5:09 am

    Well these flyovers are mainly constructed for vip’s so they can easily roam in the city


  35. zee (unregistered) on July 13th, 2007 @ 5:50 am

    PKHAN: My ancestors are Arabs. Both my parents had Arab ancestors so nopes, we never had any hindu maharaja blood in us. Now as far as I remember, you originate from Tataries (after the changaiz KHAN era), am I correct? Those people slaughtered muslims like anything and then converted to Islam.

    You don’t even know YOUR history, how can you know mine? Oh one more thing, I will ALWAYS be intolerant with those people who will take 2.2 million sacrifies for granted! Now… VANISH!


  36. Faraz (unregistered) on July 13th, 2007 @ 10:29 am

    Not that I haven’t met racist people before, but this is truly sad to see people defending their ancestral lineage. We all have the same common ancestors, according to both science and religion.


  37. pkhan (unregistered) on July 13th, 2007 @ 11:05 am

    @ ZEE
    Go live in an ARAB Country, what you are doing in karachi?
    @ Doctor
    You get yourself checked by a professional Doctor, looks like you are going through MQM Khobia.


  38. Danish (unregistered) on July 13th, 2007 @ 11:55 am

    Interesting point there by Mansoor but the constant fights and negativity in every post makes me think, why cant people appreciate the time and effort a person did to bring this to us rather than just fighting over petty issues and fighting in general.

    Does all this make you feel good or above the normal human being?

    Makes me wonder how intolerant and rowdy we are as a nation!


  39. Ameen (unregistered) on July 13th, 2007 @ 11:38 pm

    PKHAN: Aap thoray khiskay huay lagtay hain janab….Mansoor nay FOREIGNERS likha tha….aur aap directly MUHAJIR etc ki debate per agaey….TCH TCH TCH simply PERVERTED :)


  40. Syed Johny (unregistered) on July 14th, 2007 @ 9:49 am

    Doctor Sahab !!

    Tell me one thing ! and be precise!!!!!

    What did the MQM people do to you, to make you that crazy ????

    Truth only please!


  41. ShahidnUSA (unregistered) on July 14th, 2007 @ 2:08 pm

    “MQM khobia” LOL!!!!!
    I have to forgive PKhan after reading that statement.LOL!!


  42. Concerned (unregistered) on July 15th, 2007 @ 9:34 am

    @PKhan

    You seem to be picking a fight for no reason, calm down dude.


  43. Pkhan (unregistered) on July 16th, 2007 @ 10:26 pm

    For all who think I said some thing wrong , go read Mansoor Statement? What percentage of Foreighner Live in Karachi? Why put every thing on Foreigner, Road is being repaired that Because of Foreighners? Thats mean all Muhajir are Foreigner because Majority of them live in Karachi????? did u get?


  44. Aegis Kafes (unregistered) on July 17th, 2007 @ 1:00 pm

    I have a question guys !!

    I live in PECHS block II and have to take the FTC flyover as i work in the defence area. Normally, every evening the FTC flyover has traffic jam. One day i was stuck there and when a Truck passed me i noticed that the bridge was vibrating, my car was literally going up and down, not heavily but it was noticeable. IS THIS NORMAL OR SHOULD I CHANGE MY ROUTE ?

    PLEASE REPLY!!


  45. mansoor (unregistered) on July 17th, 2007 @ 3:15 pm

    aegis: its normal, that bridge has been designed for vibrating, apparently some form of flexibility or something.

    its been discussed previously on this blog, and we’ve had testaments from people studying civil engineering that its okay.

    apart from the big-ass crack in the foundation.. it should be okay :p


  46. ShahidnUSA (unregistered) on July 17th, 2007 @ 11:59 pm

    @ Mansoor you are right
    I also experience rocking bridges in foriegn countries. They rock because of the “flexibility” they have, its a precaution for heavy loads and earthquakes.


  47. iD (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 7:40 pm

    @Aegis
    bruv seriously
    change your route and take the deepest road you can ever take lolz
    as for the flexibility what if the bridge becomes more flexible than it was suppose to be..you know what i mean :D



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