Domesticated WHAT !?

http://karachi.metblogs.com/archives/images/2007/07/KMBjdawn-thumb.jpgFound this in Sunday’s classified (Karachi) section of Dawn:

Is that an animal or a slave they have domesticated to put up on sale? Ooh it’s a women who too are required to be domesticated in our society by men.

How disgusting and insensitively insane!

43 Comments so far

  1. Kashif-x (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 1:55 am

    Someone looks pretty desperate to get rid of the 38 yr old sis


  2. Arifa (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 2:12 am

    They forgot to write how many teeth IT has.

    HOW DEMEANING!!!

    But what is POSH LOCALITY? BOY 45 should be from DEFENSE?


  3. Arifa (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 2:16 am

    One more question: Will she or has she performed Umrah?
    I would have eloped before letting my brother send an advertisement out for me this way.


  4. Balma (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 2:34 am

    Some burger, perhaps graduate of Jamia Greenwich, has done a bad job of translating ‘gharailoo’

    For real fun, you guys need to check out such ads in Indian newspapers…my favorite line in them was ‘innocently divorced’….For the longest time, I thought it meant divorce before any hanky panky :-)
    Also, every once in a while an ad for a girl in Indian newspapers will say that ‘Uncle has a factory’…abay, uncle kee factory kaa achhaar Daalnaa hae?


  5. Balma (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 2:39 am

    Also, for the information of burgers, Defense is not a posh locality. It is surrounded by slums and has many slums within it. Bad roads, no water, dirty commercial areas with puncture walas and tandoors …this is what you guys call posh locality?


  6. Arifa (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 2:44 am

    @Everyone: Somebody has a HUGE complex about a few things in life.

    FYI: I was being sarcastic about defining POSH LOCALITY. duhhh….


  7. Ghaus (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 3:31 am

    I am writing this article in my Pakistan Uncut blog, so that many people can see it.


  8. Shiraz (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 4:42 am

    I was just wonder…they are looking for a “boy 45”. Hmmm, If at 45 he is still a boy then it makes me kinda wonder if he has even gone through puberty yet and is even of age and mature enough to get married. I wish im still a boy when im 45…


  9. Shiraz (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 4:42 am

    I was just wondering…they are looking for a “boy 45”. Hmmm, If at 45 he is still a boy then it makes me kinda wonder if he has even gone through puberty yet and is even of age and mature enough to get married. I wish im still a boy when im 45…


  10. Shiraz (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 4:44 am

    I was just wondering…they are looking for a “boy 45”. Hmmm, If at 45 he is still a boy then it makes me kinda wonder if he has even gone through puberty yet and is even of age and mature enough to get married. I wish im still a boy when im 45…


  11. Shiraz (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 4:44 am

    I was just wondering…they are looking for a “boy 45”. Hmmm, If at 45 he is still a boy then it makes me kinda wonder if he has even gone through puberty yet and is even of age and mature enough to get married. I wish im still a boy when im 45…


  12. Shiraz (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 4:46 am

    By the way does anybody know at what age a boy is considered a man in khi???


  13. ShahidnUSA (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 4:57 am

    Can I answer that Shiraz :)?
    When he stops clicking his “post” button four times.


  14. atif abdul rahman (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 7:08 am

    @BALMA, u rock man. (Uncle has a factory, Aunty has a sandal :) )

    Here are some I found from an online site:
    text in > are my comments.

    “Looking for misyar marriage with a girl or lady between age of 18-33. must be clean and from a conservative family if possible! Also beauty is a must. From any nationality
    Ps send your info with photos if possible..

    And about myself: I’ll tell you later..”

    I am Indian male (38), working in Riyadh, seeking any good female for marriage (Independent female may also considered). Contact with your details.

    Please note that no details then no reply from me.

    Good luck !

    Hey there. Handsome 27 years old man looking for a white girl for marriage.

    I’ll never let u down

    here is one with the heading:
    ” looking a bride for marriage”


  15. Absolut (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 8:13 am

    Regretfully but I could not avoid jumping in …. it appears that you all are quite disconnected from the challenges and issues which face our greater masses and the frustrations and aspirations they face every day .. this is a guy who is, yes, really desperate and praying that he could give away his sister’s hand in marriage to a half-decent guy and is trying every method in the book to accomplish that … which is nothing to be ridiculed or made fun of. Deep in your hearts, I know you are sensitive and enlightened folks who can feel the pain this chap feels … so the least we can do if not help him is not to make fun of his honest desperation and try to understand where he is coming from …..


  16. zee (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 8:27 am

    SHAHID: Hahahahaha that was tooooo daammmnnn hilarious! OH JEEZZ! hahahaha (y)


  17. Imran (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 10:11 am

    Some of the comments here are as insensitive as the issue being mocked. Even when the issue is a senstive one bcz it concerns our own other half; most of us have girls in our lives, don’t we?

    The term “domesticated girl” is a rather male chauvanist term, although a very common one! Lets face it, we do live in a male dominated world. Amitabh Bachan recently used it in ‘praising’ his daughter-in-law when he said he was ‘very pleased with Aishwarya and pleasantly surprised that she’s a rather domesticated girl’.

    Taking the “domesticated” issue to a different but related tangent, frankly i feel flabbergasted at the double standards of our society when i look at something as basic as a girl’s clothing in our society – and i’m speaking strictly Pakistan. We Pakistani boys roam around in t-shirts, jeans, shalwar kameez (occassionally) etc, whereas girls are (expected) to wear shalwar kameez only. Is that the NORM for girls in our society? For girls who wear t-shirts and jeans are either considered fast or worse, loose! I know this from comments by male friends. What’s up with that????????? I am not propogating western cothing over our very own eastern attire BUT IF PAKISTANI MEN CAN WEAR WESTERN CLOTHING (THEN WHY THE “DOUBLE STANDARD” FOR GIRLS?). Western or Eastern, SHOULDN’T LIFE BE EQUAL FOR ALL OF NATURE’S CREATION, why the double standard?

    Also, we (guys) can walk around in shorts, bermudas or even bare-chested in open public – but a girl is (expected) to wear a burqa!? Whats up with that?????????? AND WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT MEAN??? THAT ONLY GUYS HAVE FEELINGS WHICH CAN BE AROUSED BY LOOKING AT FEMALE SKIN, BUT NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND? I can draw only ONE LOGICAL CONCLUSION from the double standrads of Pakistani Society: Either girls have no feelings which can be aroused by looking at a male, or our society has double standards. One set of rules for boys and a different set of rules for girls. HOW PATHETIC!

    NB: Girls, take back your life!


  18. Farhan (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 10:54 am

    All Domesticated issues aside , what you were doing reading the Matrimonial pages , bhai talk to your Ami she’ll find someone for you


  19. Silver (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 11:06 am

    How desperate do you have to be to go through the matrimonial section for “time-pass”.


  20. br0ke (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 12:21 pm

    i am interested……
    where do i apply????


  21. br0ke (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 12:31 pm

    @IMRAN: YOU GO GIRL!!!!


  22. Obi Wan Kenobi (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 12:49 pm

    This is one sick post and most comments are very insensitive. It all depends how you are brought up. Words has no meaning if you do not apply right context to them. It never occurred to me that word “domesticated” had some thing to with male chauvinism. To me it meant “Ghareelo” because I took it in right context. People who think it had to do with male power should first check their ideologies. Besides I used to run an ad for my business in Dawn 6 years ago and it was quite expensive. They used to charge some what like 350 for such ad. With all the inflation, I could imagine rate up to 500. So point is that those words have price and you try your best to pass the meaning with less words and honestly I got it what was meant by domesticated.


  23. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 1:18 pm

    maybe jamash is 40+? who knows?;)

    When he stops clicking his “post” button four times.

    hahhaa!

    @broke: well said:D


  24. Jumana (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 1:30 pm

    Perhaps they could have used words like simple or homely girl instead of domesticated?

    From my opinion, “domesticated” sounds like you are going to adopt a pet.


  25. faylasuf (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 2:15 pm

    i d second O.W.K


  26. br0ke (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 3:09 pm

    @ everyone who made fun
    You dumb f***tards…..
    get an english to urdu dictionary…..
    domesticated ka literal meaning hai “gharailoo”
    it is a disgrace to learn that you guys get pleasure by making fun of people’s extremely personal issues……


  27. Kamran (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 4:24 pm

    Very bothered by a lot of comments. You have to understand that most of the ads in the matrimonial pages are due to desperate measures.

    We should not be making fun of somebody’s challanges with the english language.

    Put yourself in their shoes first before making insensitive remarks.


  28. JayJay (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 4:46 pm

    ATIF ABDUL RAHMAN:

    Can you please describe what is a “MISYAR marriage”, mentioned in the first ads in your post, for those of us who have not lived in Saudi Arabia.


  29. iD (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 4:47 pm

    I’m not too sure about the original posts but some of the replies were highly insensitive!

    This is one of the major issues in Pakistan right now. People who were lucky enough to find someone to spend rest of their life should realize that there are hell alot of people still waiting at the age of 38 in a country where girls normally get married at between 20-25.

    I had my uni in karachi and there were 5 or 6 girls in my class and I know for sure that all of them are still waiting after 8 years. Some who were engaged are not engaged anymore. Even couple of days ago my wife asked me if I have any friend who will be interested in her friend (from her uni) as she is still unmarried at the age of 29 and not only that but there were 9 girls in their group and they are all waiting for someone

    don’t forget it’s not UK or US or any foreign country where adultry is OK for you or your religion so that they can be okay by moving in with some boyfriend.

    FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE, PLEASE GROW UP!


  30. Balma (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 7:24 pm

    Let me be first here, and appologize for any comments from me that may have hurt anyone.
    I realize getting girls (and boys) married in current environment in Pakistan is a serious problem. I am not against putting ads in newspapers, I even explained that ‘domesticated’ could mean ‘gharaeloo’. Indeed, there are very few options to find a spouse other than your cousin in Pakistan. Therefore, I am not at all against ads in newspapers. But to be honest, some of these ads are funny.


  31. Arifa (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 8:19 pm

    @Imran: The reason why female skin arouses more INTEREST in men and not vice-versa is because our general male population is quite un-good-looking compared to the fairer sex :P

    @ID: It’s ok to be not married and earning your own living , than gettign married into a family own actually wanted dowry and a maid that comes with it for life….

    In the words on Milton: It’s better to reign in HELL than to serve in Heaven

    It’s a very sensitive issue and well can’t be solved till parents in Pakiland realize that they need to trust their girls as much as they trust their sons . That is, trust them to go out and and work, study etc and also have fun and this in no way will effect their diginity and bring shame to the family. Infact, if parents can’t find someone for their daughter, why not let her find one on her own?
    And no, this in our society doesn’t mean to live with someone it just means to get to know someone to be able to decide if they can live with that person or not.

    @BALMA: Your LAST post was quite MOVING :)


  32. Salman A. (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 8:53 pm

    People do stupid things in life, like asking for proposals only from those areas which according to their desfintion are ‘posh’, as opposed to ‘pa-posh’ and other neighborhoods as well :)

    @Balma,
    Your above comment about ‘innocently divorced’ was hilarious. One request though, please don’t drag DHA in your war on burgers.. hehehe..

    hey will you write script for my next sitcom?? just joking..LOL..


  33. atif abdul rahman (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 10:05 pm

    come on people,
    this post is about Pinglish, nothing else.

    No one is ridiculing the persons invovled. Most of the time, they dont even write these words but the news agencies use pre made templates which they just fill in with names and other details.

    But its fun to read them, it also gives an insight into what people cherish.
    In Saudia which I still visit annualy, the Pakistani community mostly cherish a doctor as a wife and engineer as a husband, and software developers, bankers, economists, etc r all not so popular. U can see every other ad, with required professions for proposals…


  34. br0ke (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 10:24 pm

    ARIFA said : “our general male population is quite un-good-looking ”
    im extremely offended :@….
    u take that comment back…..


  35. Salman A. (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 10:29 pm

    i am also extremely disappointed by Arifa’s comments.. i want to join forces with you Broke..


  36. br0ke (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 10:31 pm

    @BALMA : apology accepted…..


  37. Arifa (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 10:39 pm

    @PAKI-MEN: Looks like reality bites :P..
    Ok I apologize for saying that. REALLY.


  38. br0ke (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 11:37 pm

    @aRIFA: are you talking about reality miss “hav to get teeth fixed”????
    this proves that either your shallow or unfortunately you have ugly bums around…..


  39. Arifa (unregistered) on July 19th, 2007 @ 11:56 pm

    @BROKE: What can I say.. I lived in Karachi for a very long time….

    teeth fixed? My My!! someone keeps a check on me and remembers everything :P

    Shallow? Hmm now I am offended.

    Hey only kidding…. When I said Un-good-looking I was referring to the general population. I guess I must have seen all the BUMS as you like to put it. I said what I felt like and you can diss me all you want, it’s a free country :)


  40. br0ke (unregistered) on July 20th, 2007 @ 1:12 am

    @aRIFA: im not dissing….
    you have your own opinion…
    i wasnt keeping a check….
    atleast now im not…..


  41. Arifa (unregistered) on July 20th, 2007 @ 1:19 am

    @Broke: Whatever.. I ain’t writing anymore for anyone to check……

    Adios


  42. Bina (unregistered) on July 22nd, 2007 @ 12:23 pm

    I’ve been perusing the Matrimonial Columns since I was a little girl. They provided hours of amusement for a bored child on Sunday mornings. I don’t do it anymore, but after this post I might be tempted to go and look at today’s Dawn :)

    Anyway, I just wanted to say that “domesticated” is the incorrect word: although one of its definitions does include “accustomed to home life”, the more relevant and current definitions of “domestic” and “domesticated” refer to household servants and animals. Perhaps a better term would be “home-loving” or “homemaker”.

    To the person who suggested “homely” – if you say someone is a homely woman it implies they are lacking in physical beauty!


  43. Jamash (unregistered) on July 22nd, 2007 @ 6:26 pm

    Sadly the status most women in our society is too, no better than a servant or even worse because wives don’t even get paid, and they can also be killed in an accidental fire in the kitchen or even more brutally in the name of honor.

    My cousin’s wife was not allowed to work because her husband thought she will be “spoilt” if she will step put of her house to earn money. In our society men want to keep “their” women chained to their house to work as an unpaid bounded labor for them or later for their husbands.

    When I was about 7 mom and my cousins too used to enjoy there matrimonial adds :), but the session often used to end on a sad discussions :( .



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