Yeh shehar humara hay…

Another JPMC student was killed and four were reported to be injured.
Farhan Butt died within 15 minutes of having a bullet wound in his chest.
After the incident, police rushed to the spot and “the situation was brought under control within half an hour,” said the SHO.” (credit:DAWN News)

An institute that is run under “Fedral Government”, with no ensured security?

PSA workers were reported to attack IJT workers in the presence of police and Rangers and that police high-ups had been informed about PSA workers gathering near the Cantonment Railway Station before they attack, but the official had said that he was “unable to take any action against them.

Within a fort night two medical students lost their lives in the name of what : “politics?”

48 Comments so far

  1. Shahzad (unregistered) on August 27th, 2007 @ 3:58 pm

    all politicians needs to killed immediately.
    They dont deserve ne thing except death.

    the ppl get killed and they use them to boost their politics.

    Doggies!!1


  2. Petarian_88 (unregistered) on August 27th, 2007 @ 4:20 pm

    i remember in the 80’s and early 90’s almost every year students of SMC used to be killed and we also had to live wih the tear gas as our home was neaby in the wind direction.

    we becaome so used to it. i remember the last big incident was the killing of Ishtiaque chaudhri 9 i hope i got the name right) and the killing od doctors on theopening day of the Kidney ward in the 90’s.

    it’s plain and simple insane. esp young doctors/students killing each other and fo what??


  3. MB (unregistered) on August 27th, 2007 @ 4:30 pm

    Our education system has collapsed and now we produce degree holders in subjects like gun usage, mob incitations, how-to force a strike ETC.

    A state run on the methodology of terror is bound to produce such incidents, why get amazed ?

    For years i have been shouting every where and on every platform about education. Who cares.

    And i dont curse these terrorist youngsters going after each other for politics or any reason.

    Are they stupid to waste their fee and energy to get a crap degree and waste another few years to get a job and that too something like 7 to 12K.

    Bullshit.

    Rehman dakait can pay you 15K per month if you join his gang. Plus the daily bonus packages.

    The educational institutes are bakeries , throw money and get a good product.

    We asked for it, and we shall pay now.


  4. MB (unregistered) on August 27th, 2007 @ 4:38 pm
  5. MB (unregistered) on August 27th, 2007 @ 4:57 pm

    Daily Ummat had a detail interview of Rehman dakait . Does anyone has that ??


  6. MB (unregistered) on August 27th, 2007 @ 4:59 pm

    OOps!! i know someone will do typical rant about solution and stuff so the solution is simple:-

    Make education a priority followed by health.

    PEACE


  7. seskey (unregistered) on August 27th, 2007 @ 5:03 pm

    PSA is punjabi student association –

    these pubjabis can do anything anywhere in pakistan, no one can challange them. be it supreme court Chief justice who is a punjabi on balochistan quota, or be it Punjabi students in educational institutes of SINDH.

    rangers & police 96% are punjabis, so why would they ACT when Punjabis are aggressors, – they would act when Punjabis come under fire…. and Fire on others to save their own punjabi brethern.

    discrimation and ethinical divide is DEVINE in the Pakistan, – musharraf will be shot dead in punjab or by some punjabi or hanged after trail by the Punjabi bureacuracy if he survives the attempts. Only because he is a non-punjabi Military ruler cum president, and working against the Greater Interest of Greater punjab.


  8. IUnKnown (unregistered) on August 27th, 2007 @ 5:53 pm

    @seskey, u loook purely racist


  9. Imran (unregistered) on August 27th, 2007 @ 6:16 pm

    hmmm i must say kah ziada mistakes hamare apni hai……hameen khud yeh sab harkateen karne ka shooq hota hai…..classes hoti nahin hain ya attend karna hum taboo samajhte hain….phir keya panjabi keya sindhi….masla yeh hai kah ager koi pathan, panjabi ya xyz hamare Association, union, party main hai tou woh acha….warna …. double standard tou hamara apna hai…..kyun karachi main Jo MQM hai us main pathan aur panjabi nahin hain??


  10. Nouman (unregistered) on August 27th, 2007 @ 6:19 pm

    The police has arrested the sector incharge of PPI-Punjabi Pakhun Ittehad from Golden area( a ghetto with PPI sympathizers).

    I am waiting for MQM haters to know answer; they surely do not miss any opportunity on MQM & Altaf Hussain.


  11. Balma (unregistered) on August 27th, 2007 @ 8:11 pm

    It is all ghundaas under the garb of students and student leaders. IJT guys are Panjabis too. IJT in Karachi was always a Panjabi affair, with chhoTay moTay roles for bhayaa types.
    So this ghunDaa gardi of Panjab Student Association against IJT is not a ghunda gardi of Panjabis against non panjabis, it is a ghundaa gardi affair among ghundaas. Lets stop making racial comments about the incident. All political parties should be banned from educational institutions of Karachi. Since we can’t control Pakistan, lets fix Karachi. If these ghundaas want to do siyaasat in universities and colleges, they should get admissions in colleges outside of Karachi. Kick all student organizations including APMSO out of Karachi’s educational institutions. NOW!


  12. Reality_Check (unregistered) on August 27th, 2007 @ 9:16 pm

    FINALLY someone posted this topic, for a while I thought there was a deliberate attempt by the KMB team to avoid it. Still I am amused by the absence of all the usual suspects who would have crowded this post if any one of the parties in conflict was MQM. I wonder who are the ghundaas now and who is the terrorist, sadly the informed name callers are absent, so I don’t know.

    UNAIZA Police in such cases when both parties are armed almost never interferes, because it’s a catch 22, if they face off with armed students and somebody gets killed, then there will be hell to pay. The solution lies elsewhere. Our political leaders talk too much about consensus, the first resolution they should make in their next APC, APDM or XYZ is that they will disarm and will not involve their respective student wings in politics. Can they do that? Idont think so.


  13. Syed Johny (unregistered) on August 27th, 2007 @ 9:24 pm

    I agree with Balma above,

    but I do say that IJT is the main student party responsible for clashes!
    They have had regular clashes with APMSO
    They had clashes PSF (Pakhton Students Federation Last year)
    They are having clashes with PSA!
    All costing lives and disturbing the routine!

    PLus!
    they have also been reported threatening students (The Lal Masjid way) to stop following the western way of clothing in UET Lahore, Karachi University, GCT KArachi and many others,

    *** If you get a change to meet a fresh GCT passout , you will come to know that GCT started its point (buss ) service from all over city for the students! which was a relief for the students as GCT is near Shershah, but later the buses were Hijacked (literally) by IJT workers, students there still pay point Fee, but do not get any buss service, when administration was approached by students, they said they were helpless, cause the buses have been forcibly taken by IJT workers, and they cannot stop the Fee cause officially it would be denying students a “facility”
    If you will get a chance then, see any of IJT picnics, or Annual Ijtmas in Karachi or even Punjab! they are using GCT busses Illegealy !


  14. Balma (unregistered) on August 27th, 2007 @ 9:44 pm

    Syed Johny Walker,
    What is GCT?


  15. Reality_Check (unregistered) on August 27th, 2007 @ 9:49 pm

    SYED JHONNY what you have noticed is not new. In the case of Jamiat this has been a time tested doctrine.
    They have been in conflict with every one else since time unknown because they believe;

    1/ They are right (always),
    2/ They need to impose certain code of conduct on the campus.
    3/ Any student group who wants to organize a function or any other activity should get their clearance.
    4/ Any student who wants a hostel room should come to them.
    5/ Only they are authorized to talk to girls, rest should stay away
    ………
    the list goes on

    And when they charge on fellow students chanting Allah-o-Akbar, they believe that they are fighting against Kafirs. This was the case when I was in university, so things haven’t changed much. This time however they are looking more like victims, I wonder what they are fighting over.


  16. seskey (unregistered) on August 27th, 2007 @ 9:58 pm

    IUNKNOWN

    pakistan is placed as an example of racism & discrimination on global map.

    every where on globe, there are always multiple Pakistani organizations seperatly and Pakistan embasssy does not recognise single one.

    where as there is always ONE Indian community who look after interest of INDIANs be it from anywhere in India.

    in pakistan we find everyone right from burma to uzbekistan, but a PAKISTANI.

    your handle explains you are also confused to know who you really are, isn’t it SIR! with due respect, we are a nation moving in a dark alley.


  17. jacktheripper (unregistered) on August 27th, 2007 @ 10:29 pm

    @seskey

    nice pics of ur sisters, how much??


  18. NED (unregistered) on August 28th, 2007 @ 3:35 am

    @SESKEY,
    I agree with you 100%.
    Finally, someone with a brain has surfaced on this blog…..way to go.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if most people here will speak against your thoughts….they are first Punjabies and then Pakistani.


  19. Ali (unregistered) on August 28th, 2007 @ 5:45 am

    @ All
    have you noticed that the 2 jamatis killed were not from karachi ?
    one from multan the other one from kashmir and active workers of Jamiat ???
    This is the point .
    These outsiders wants to capture karachi so that no one will raised voice for urdu speaks the largest ethnic group of karachi.
    These jamati munafiqs when MQM was Mohajir Qaumi Movement called them ethnic and labelled them anti islamic but now ,these munafiqs are sitting with ethnic pathans ANP and master mind of Hyderabad massacre where 150 Mohajirs were killed in one night Dr Qadir Magsi the soo called Sindhi natiopnalist.

    Wake Up Urdu speaks!!!!


  20. Reality_Check (unregistered) on August 28th, 2007 @ 7:02 am

    @ALI Jamiat has always been like this, there are tons of Urdu speakers in it also. I have been at odds with this party (see my earlier post). But that doesnt mean that we start preaching hate. Remember MQM has an office in Muzaffarabad also and people their keep them in high regard for their efforts during the earthquake. Dont loose all the good work because certain politicians are trying to provoke you.

    The fact is Jamaat is desperate to get its hands back on Karachi. Foil their efforts by building and looking ahead. Dont get involved in petty fights.


  21. Syed Johny (unregistered) on August 28th, 2007 @ 10:54 am

    @ Balma U could have google it out !:)

    anyways GCT is Government College of Technology , (Formerly known as Karachi Polytechnic Institute),

    The largest and probably the oldest polytechnic institute of Pakistan, gifted by USA in the 50s.


  22. Shahzad (unregistered) on August 28th, 2007 @ 12:39 pm

    @seskey : u r rite that we are moving towards the dark just becoz we dont want to change our selves.


  23. Petarian_88 (unregistered) on August 28th, 2007 @ 1:58 pm

    “So this ghunDaa gardi of Panjab Student Association against IJT is not a ghunda gardi of Panjabis against non panjabis, it is a ghundaa gardi affair among ghundaas. Lets stop making racial comments about the incident. All political parties should be banned from educational institutions of Karachi…”

    as far as i can c from what you wrote. you used racist language yourself and then condemned racism!!

    this is the typical pakistani hypocricy!!

    this KMB post is just dirt! thrid rate racists patting each other on the backs!!


  24. Petarian_88 (unregistered) on August 28th, 2007 @ 1:59 pm

    Balma”

    “So this ghunDaa gardi of Panjab Student Association against IJT is not a ghunda gardi of Panjabis against non panjabis, it is a ghundaa gardi affair among ghundaas. Lets stop making racial comments about the incident. All political parties should be banned from educational institutions of Karachi…”

    as far as i can c from what you wrote. you used racist language yourself and then condemned racism!!

    this is the typical pakistani hypocricy!!

    this KMB post is just dirt! thrid rate racists patting each other on the backs!!


  25. MB (unregistered) on August 28th, 2007 @ 3:00 pm

    PETARIAN bro
    third rate racists , YES
    post is dirt , NO

    Unaiza is not responsible for people interested in accumulating and distributing dirt. She share what she had to. She is not here to spoon feed readers on ethics.


  26. seskey (unregistered) on August 28th, 2007 @ 5:14 pm

    @Jacktheripper ! so u are part of the family as i suspected.


  27. Ali (unregistered) on August 28th, 2007 @ 6:35 pm

    An other punjabi died !!!
    a student of PSA injured in firing b/w Jamiat and PSA died today .
    The dead belongs from punjab and his body sent back to Punjab.
    These punjabies and pathans comes to karachi to capture the due share of urdu speaking people these people are mostly criminals doing Street crimes and as they are living in karachi nobody can identified them as they are urdu speakers or non urdu speakers and the Anti urdu Speakers then propogate that Urdu speaking Party MQM is behind that.
    Now its time to kick all of these Punjabies and Pathans out of karachi as they are root cause of all the karachi problems.
    They should go to Lahore instead of coming to karachi and when they died their bodies flown back to their pinds means they are parasites on the people of karachi.

    Wake Up Urdu Speaks don’t let them snatch the future of your coming generations as by making karachi domiciles they are catching Civil Jobs on Karachi Quota as the appointing authorities are the Same Punjabi Pathan lobies.


  28. Ali (unregistered) on August 28th, 2007 @ 6:39 pm

    @Reality_Check
    So you belong to Jamaat right ?
    Have you ever asked your higher leadership why Prof Ghafoor the most senior person in Jamaat not made Ameer ?
    Because he is urdu speak ??
    Have you ever asked your jamaat why they signed Quota System against Urdu Speaking People ?
    Have you ever asked where were Jamaat e Islami who is soo vocaled against ther kiilings of no urdu speaks when in 1965 in 1973 in 1986 in 1988 and 1990 hundreds of urdu speaks massacred in just one night ?
    Where were your Jamaat a islamic party why they didn’t raised any voice against the systematic financial and bodily genocide of Mohajirs ??


  29. Ali (unregistered) on August 28th, 2007 @ 6:56 pm

    Jamati hypocrates
    Just read this and knows for yourself that how big hypocrats jamatis are.
    Every one if studied in KU and other Gov colleges knows that PSA and APMSO are blood thirsty opponents and PSA is financed and run by PPI the Anti MQM party even PSA and Jamiat is sitting in Muttehda Taleba Mahaz against APMSO, but just read what Jamat e Islami propogate in Interior Sindh .

    http://www.jasarat.com/2007/08/28/nation/details/54.gif


  30. Balma (unregistered) on August 28th, 2007 @ 7:32 pm

    Syed Johnny Walker: Thanks.

    Petarian_88: Do you have a college degree?


  31. Reality_Check (unregistered) on August 28th, 2007 @ 11:16 pm

    @ALI could you please find time to read my earlier posts on this topic.


  32. Ali (unregistered) on August 28th, 2007 @ 11:59 pm

    @ Reality_Check
    sorry for some misunderstanding !!!


  33. Reality_Check (unregistered) on August 29th, 2007 @ 5:11 am

    @ALI accepted. Just keep in mind that nobody can deny the injustice / exploitation of the people of Karachi, but there are millions other poor souls who have suffered much worse in all the communities in this Mumlikat-e-Khudadaad. Give your arguments supported by facts and thats it, there is no need to curse and loose your cool.

    I am all for struggling for your due rights but what I am against is hate mongerring and personal attacks. I support MQM mainly because it represents the middle classes, no mullah or wadera can use it to further some screwed up goals. Yes, it has its shortcomings, it has some major issues to tackle within, but its the best bet for the people of this city because it has people who can turn up their sleeves and do some work.


  34. Petarian_88 (unregistered) on August 29th, 2007 @ 2:17 pm

    @ Balma

    “Petarian_88: Do you have a college degree?…”

    people like you are not worth replying to. you people are a waste of time….this is the mentality of a decaying people.

    you people can patt each other on the back and think you are angels. good for u,


  35. Petarian_88 (unregistered) on August 29th, 2007 @ 2:37 pm

    i really am amazed at the low level of intellect of the people on this blogg.

    khi is supposed to be a city with the higest litracy rate and the most intellegent people.

    iam amazed that people still feel proud of being called refugees (muhajir)esp 2nd and 3rd generation of the original refugees who settled here on a permanent basis.

    what amazes me further is the fact that the urdu speaking refugess do not consider refugess from east punjab as refugess and have sort of trade marked the refugee Brand name!

    the hope of karachi being turned into a civilized city is no more there esp when the so called most educated people in our country are represented by a fascit party and urdu speking people are bragging about it.

    I love karachi but i think it will sink in a hell hole and all the so called fascist educated elite would be responsible for it.


  36. Petarian_88 (unregistered) on August 29th, 2007 @ 2:42 pm

    @MB & other authors

    you do not waste a minute in deleting my comments but you can stomach this rascist rant easily??

    may be deep down inside you agree with these people and still claim to be a liberal intellectual!


  37. Petarian_88 (unregistered) on August 29th, 2007 @ 2:50 pm

    @Reality_Check

    “I support MQM mainly because it represents the middle classes, no mullah or wadera can use it to further some screwed up goals. Yes, it has its shortcomings, it has some major issues to tackle within, but its the best bet for the people of this city because it has people who can turn up their sleeves and do some work…”

    support of this fascist group by people like you is really amazing. what has it given you??

    has it made your lives better?

    what is surprising is the fact that MQM says it wants to free people from the waderas and jagirdars….but in reality Urdu speaking people were never under any wadera but now are under a badmash who is a dictator and any word of criticism from you of Altaf would surely bring you quick death.

    if this MQM is the best your lot can come up with then God save you!

    you people are part of the educated jahils!


  38. Petarian_88 (unregistered) on August 29th, 2007 @ 3:07 pm

    @@Reality_Check

    the goal of any politician is power!! no matter what ethnicity they belong to, all the care for is power.

    so if you support the MQM because you are afriad of waderas then think again!! wake up!!

    if the MQM had given karachi peace and was a vibrant political party then i would have supported it.

    people can get away with criticising BB and Gunja too but can you imagine any one from urdu speaking community openly criticise Altaf and get away with it, without heavy security round the clock?

    this etnic monster has almost completely destroyed karachi! there may be still time to save it, but with eductaed people like u i c little chance of karachi being saved!

    just tell me what the hell would happen if tomorow urdu speaking people stopped supporting the MQM and loses every seat in teh NA & PA? the answer is nothing…..the skies won’t fall. a new leadership would emerge and may be there would be a chance for a better tomorow.

    do u honestly think there is any chance for things getting better with MQM in power??

    the other laughable thing is the MQM trying to spread to other parts of the country. let me tell you i think it’s their right to do that.

    But the funny thing is that they pursue ethnic based rascist policies in sind and are now trying to go to other ethinic communities to try to win more seats. do u think people in Punjab and NWFP are blind and they do not know who is killing their ethnic group in karachi??

    the urdu speaking community is in self denial!! it has to get out of it and select sane people to represent them!


  39. Nouman (unregistered) on August 29th, 2007 @ 6:18 pm

    I have yet to meet a non-Karachiatte supporter of MQM.While this would make any MQM hater gloat but it actuay proves that all non Karachiattes hate MQM and they are prejudiced against it. It goes to prove that its them who condemn MQM because they cannot stand the political might of the urban rebels.


  40. Petarian_88 (unregistered) on August 29th, 2007 @ 6:36 pm

    @Nouman

    “It goes to prove that its them who condemn MQM because they cannot stand the political might of the urban rebels….”

    Honourable rebels have a cause and stick to it. they do not indulge in bhatta khauri, kidnapping for ransom, car snatching, robberry,, mobile snatching……etc

    honourable rebels at least spare theirown community.

    after all your rebels are no longer rebel and are part and parcel of the govt. and the establishment but they forget this point and still blame the govt and establishment for all the ills of the society.

    just have a survey of MQM strongholds and you would find them involved in all of the above mentioned crimes. can u deny it???

    i want an honest answer!


  41. Petarian_88 (unregistered) on August 29th, 2007 @ 6:40 pm

    by the way y can’t your Chief Rebel come back to karachi when his govt is in place??

    it says a lot about the character of the person.

    if he comes back to karachi then at least the rate of bhatta would come down drastically as MQM won’t have to sepnd a fortune on his living expenses in “Lundon”


  42. Petarian_88 (unregistered) on August 29th, 2007 @ 6:40 pm

    by the way y can’t your Chief Rebel come back to karachi when his govt is in place??

    it says a lot about the character of the person.

    if he comes back to karachi then at least the rate of bhatta would come down drastically as MQM won’t have to spend a fortune on his living expenses in “Lundon”


  43. Petarian_88 (unregistered) on August 29th, 2007 @ 6:48 pm

    @Nouman;

    “I have yet to meet a non-Karachiatte supporter of MQM…”

    i think u meant non-urdu speaking. anyways, just for comparission purpose can you find any urdu speaking supporters of GM Syes or Sindhi nationalists??

    MQM is an urdu-spaeking ethnic fascist party do u expect it to be popular with other ethinic groups?

    y must be naive to think that.

    u almost sound hurt by the fact that MQM is not supported and loved by other ethnic groups who are it’s main victums!!


  44. Nou (unregistered) on August 29th, 2007 @ 7:57 pm

    I dont count non-urdu Karachiates a s fulfilling the definition of A Karachiatte. So there you go.

    You can say all that you want…fact of the matter is MQM is there to stay and it has proven itself to be the single most representative voice of urban sindh.

    Why dont you also join Mutahhida ; we may struggle Sindhi Wadera Shahi. Afterall its the wadera shahi and not MQM which is responible for the problems of interior sindh.


  45. Petarian_88 (unregistered) on August 30th, 2007 @ 11:59 am

    @ Nou

    ok, wader shahi is responsible for problems of interior sind.

    so i guess MQM is responsible for Urban sind!! isn’t it?

    by the way u do not count non-urdu speaking people born in khi as a Karachiatte.

    so why wear the guise of Mutahida, i think the name change was supposed to signal to all pakistanis that MQM is open to all ethnic groups but you are not even ready to accept any non-urdu speaker as a Karachiatte.

    do you know that acc. to the last census more then 40% of the people in karachi are non-urdu speakers. so u want to expell them from khi??

    do you know that the people of Lyari and other ancient communities are the original Karachiatte who have been living here since the last many hundreds of years so u do not even count them as a Karachiatte.

    urdu speaking people settled here only 60 years back and are not even prepared to call the original inhabitants as Karachiatte!!

    funny, really funny!!


  46. Nouman (unregistered) on August 30th, 2007 @ 6:50 pm

    I am stop, I think you are hallucinating about this 40% of Karachi as being non-urdu speakers; or maybe you believe in it because it suits your agenda, thers’s a name for it, wishful imagination:-)

    And for the sake of argument, if that number is true-perhaps base don taht number we shoudl do away with quota system.

    Look at the website of your alter ego-PPP, you might confuse it as being the directory of bloodsucking, leachourous, exploitative-wadera shahi. There aint a single hard working, tax paying member in its entire body. They are the real source of interior sindh impoverishment NOT MQM. Offcourse they would want gullible minds to beleive that MQM has snatched their rights only to prolong their feudal clutches.

    Accept it. you would hate MQM even if it magically solves issues of Iraq, Palestine and Kashmir in a single strike—that only proves that problem lies within the likes of you and not MQM. You have deep seated, blistering, festering pathological jealousy against MQM and you can only justify that by hallucinating that MQM is a ethnic, fascist bla bla.


  47. Petarian_88 (unregistered) on August 30th, 2007 @ 7:05 pm

    me jeolous of MQM? me jeolous of MQM?


  48. Petarian_88 (unregistered) on August 30th, 2007 @ 7:07 pm

    ! Nou

    it’s sad how u dodge my questions!! can u answer what i asked u in my 2nd last post?



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