Breaking News: Part of Shershah Bridge Collapsed.
A major Part of the shershah bridge which was inaugurated 15 days less than a month ago (7th of August 2007) by General Pervaiz Musharraf has collapsed. A public bus “Ilyaas Coach ” and another public bus G3 is reported to be crushed under the ruble along with a few more cars. It is also reported by Aaj tv that when the hammers were used to remove the cars from the rubble the bridge running parallel to it started to swing as well so the hammering had to be stopped.
Updates:
Some eye witness on dawn news told dawn that several cars, pushcart venders were under the bride when at around 1:15 pm when the bridge collapsed.
According to Aaj News the bridge was constructed by the National Construction Authority with an amount of 245 million rupees.
Dawn News just confirms it was National Highway Authority responsible for the construction of this bridge.
According to Dawn News The bridge was constructed by National logistic cell under National Highway Authority with an amount of 3.5 billion rupees. Till now 5 people are confirmed dead while countless trapped under the rubble are unaccounted for.
The news is still unfolding.
so sad ..May Allah bless them all who lost life in this incident(Ameen).
independent inquiry should be conducted ,all those who involved in it should be hanged publicaly. …i knw its just my dream nothing will happen ,ppl will forget this after few days like 5-12 massacre.
This is horrible.
Arbab just said those responsible for this incidence can not be spared. Why not, if those responsible for 12 May massacre can be spared? What is the differenc4e between one murder and another?
What did we do to get MQM to govern us? Oh Lord! Forgive our sins and take away these devils who have vowed to wreck us. Aameen.
the rascals of NHA should be hanged at the same spot!!
wah wah!!! kia taraqqi ho gaye hay karachi main
kala altaf tu karachi ko paris bana rhaa thaa?
Where are those ppl who always keep on saying progress and progress? is this the progress?
these modern bridges are supposed to withstand major earthquakes!!
NHA and FWO people are real rascals.
but iam sure nothing will happen to them as they are headed by army generals!
the responsible authorities shud be severly punished in front of public .
I dont think it will happen but may be cheif justice cud do some thing here?
Lets wait for MQM apologists to come up with some retarded explanation… why cant we get rid of these morons… why do we have to live with them?
NHA is responsible. A glance at its website (pay attention to mission statement)
Minister Mr. Muhammad Shamim Siddiqui (MQM)
Secretary Mr. Tariq Mahmood
Chairman NHA Maj. Gen. Imtiaz Ahmed
Mission Statement
To secure delivery of efficient, reliable, safe and environment friendly National Highway network with the view to improve quality of life in Pakistan.
I think Northern by pass is under construction for many years now, i don’t see any MQM connection.
Gosh 3.5 billion rupees….bridge life is only 21 days..this is extreme of corruption ..
Minister Mr. Muhammad Shamim Siddiqui (MQM)
Secretary Mr. Tariq Mahmood
Chairman NHA Maj. Gen. Imtiaz Ahmed.
these above rascals should be hanged publicaly no mercy to them.
What is the cost of our lives?
Are we here in Pakistan to be expensed for the delight of some bigots?
WHAT FUCK IS GOING ON HERE?
@Abdul Sami
Dear Sami…Karachi main koi bhi garbar ho to woh MQM ke khate main aur sari achaian Jamat ke liye…Bridge collapse ho gaya…MQM is responsible…they can’t change…Jamaties. They fool didn’t know that the bridge was constructed by the NLC
Shamim Siddique
http://www.elections.com.pk/candidateprint.php?id=1910
Every Country has an Army, Pakistan Army has a country - worth looking at
http://www.buzzvines.com/every-country-has-army-pakistan-army-has-country
regardless Militant Qomi movement is involved or not, I feel sick of hearing statement of Shamim Siddiqui, the minister from Musallah Qomi Movement.
“ab pul girgya ab kia karsaktey hain” as if it’s nothing! According to shamim 4 people have expired whch was refuted by AAJ report on field and he said that Shamim siddiqui is a misinformed person and according to him atleast 50 people would have dead by now.
It’s also being said that design of bridge was changed to save a factory adjacent to bridge which produced extra curve in the bridge. Further more the structure was being supported by two pillars. During rescue work, the other parts of bridge has started collapsing as well.
Militant’s minister started giving example of US bridge which recently collapsed in SF i think.
Corrupt will not be caught, leaders of militant party already started giving lame and traditional statements like “Mowaza diya jaye ga”. Shamim Siddiqui is not giving proper answer to questions of GEO news person. Now we will keep hearing lame things k “Hum ne nai ye banaya” etc etc. But it was not being said “WHO” gave NLC to contract? did someone came fro Sky and gave contract to NLC.
I think it would be foolish and sick if leaders start blaming companies and not accepting their own responsiblities.
NHA or NLC??
My friends, you have all the rights to blame MQM (or whatever names you have given it), but this bridge wasnt thei project. It was constructed by National Highway and sub coontracted to National Logistics Cell (NLC), these are fedral level agency and reports directly to Pakistan Govt. & Military. So, its fault at governmental level that they couldnt checked / tested the bybass before it got operational.
So, guys for once think outside the box and try to persuade the adminsitration of this country that proper testing / approval of projects should be done at all contracts and at all level.
@Bravo again. This mud sligging is yet another example of single minded targeting mission carried on by certain individuals on this blog.
I am amazed that the spin doctors here are hell bent upon some how twist and turn it towards city government and MQM, which had no part in design / construction done by established Federal Institutions. I wonder what would have happened if it was done by CDGK.
Yes a bridge has collapsed, built by Federal Authorities, but even if it was built by civilian contractors or foreign consultants, the design engineers and the companies involved should be questioned in an open inquiry. Immemediately all ongoing and recent constructions of such structures should be re-assessed and be certified for safety by independent consultants.
However, I agree, the timing couldnt be worse for the government because ultimate responsibility falls on them. In any such situation it is the govt who should conduct an inquiry and affix responsibility by clearly determining;
1/ Was there criminal negligence and by who?
2/ Was it a design flaw? If so who approved the technical drawings.
3/ Was it due to poor construction / materials, then again affix responsibility.
If criminal negligence is proved then those responsible should be prausecuted. Its how the govt handles this situation, will determine what they are made of.
The bridge was also said to have been put on hold as lower level architect detected some flaws
ECIL disappeared in thin air.
no-one is back tracking the designers, engineers and final inspectors and report writers., who released the check list for clearence of payments..???
Project Name:
Feasibility Study and Detailed design of Karachi Northern Bypass.
Name Of Client:
National Highway Authority
Detail Narrative Description of Project:
Karachi Northern Bypass project takes off from the ICI bridge and traverses through Mauripur Road, S.I.T.E Road and RCD Highway. At RCD Highway the bypass alignment turns towards new alignment at km 19+300 and them traverses in the new alignment section and joins Karachi Hyderabad super Highway at km 26+500. The total length of the project is 62.15 km. Two flyovers have been provided at Gulbai and pirracha chowk where as two interchanges hae been provided at RCD Highway and the super Highway.
Project Location within Country: Karachi (Pakistan)
Professional Staff Provided by the company: 21
No.of Man-Months: 29.55
Start Date: 7/1/2001
Completion Date(month/year): 1/1/ 2002 (In progress)
Services: -Topographic Surveys. -Traffic Studies. -Soil Investigations. -Hydrology and Drainage. -Pavement Design. -Highway Geometric Design. -Design of Structures. -Design of Interchanges & Flyovers. -Economic Analysis. -Feasibility Study Report. -PC - I Form. -Tender Documents.
Name of Associated firm(s):
No of Man-Month Of Professional Staff
Provided by associated firm(s):
Name of Senior Staff: Mr. Khalid Mirza - Project Director, Mr. Naveed Hassan - Team Leader
I agree 100 % with “Reality_Check “, proper ivestigation should be held and the responsible person(s) should be held accountable & punished through court of law.
I would suggest that proper check / tests should be run on all the bridges recently constructed in Karachi to check on any possible fault. If you remember small scale damages were noticed previously in Stadium bridge and COD-Shara-e-Faisal flyover. No one is allowed to play with the lives of Karachites.
Start Date: 7/1/2001
^^^^That is military era, plus Jamati was ruling CDGK.
It is estimated that 300 people are under the debris (edhi)…
It is probably true as two busses may carry upto 80 people (40+ each indoors under peak hours, not accounting for the people on top of the roof)
kia chutiya loog hain .. bc … tv pe dikha aur bata rahay hain k NHA and federal govt. is responsible for the construction .. still you people blame MQM and altaf …. good going .. ass hole … although I dont support anyone but still galiyaan un ko do jo haqdar hain.
Every single day there’s a major catastrophe in this city, its time Polititians stop their bull**** on who’s going to be coming to Pakistan and who will take off his uniform and concentrate on graver issues eating up the Pakistani citizens.
and all these ppl should be publicly hanged but that is a far far fetched thought..These goons will escape out of this within no time
this bridge was part of notorious signal free corridor.. just yesterday adnan posted pics of cracks in nazimabad underpass and we were discussing about substandard work done by city government and its contractor and minting billions of rupees of tax payer’s money… MQM’s leadership is already facing charges of manslaughter in 12th may’s massacre, this is another case, all these friggin MQM’s leader shouldn’t be allowed to run out of country and should be held accountable whenever these thugs are out of government ….
MQM apologetics are out again and will never accept the crime of local and Sind government. Ignorance at peak.
@Tanveer: whether it was made by NLC or ABC, the fact of the matter is that the bosses of this city belong to MQM party which is in majority in both local and Sind government. Now if such bosses are unable to maintain city then such people should accept their responsibility.
Usually people here keeps referring civilized Western world and show their anti-Mullah hatred by condemning a community for everything. Now the so called civilized secularist party which blame every tom dick and harry for issues in Karachi is not capable enough to accept the responsibility and ask their filthy minister to accept his mistake and resign but when power game is more sacred than a God then you can;t accept anything sane from such people.
around 12:50 i passed from the opposite side going towards maripur from SITE industrial area.. i had reached jinnah bridge and my bro called me asking my whereabouts and informed me of the tragic accident…
Incase if someone doesn’t know or pro dictator come out, allow me to tell you that NLC and NHA are run by Army.
few mins back, formber Minister of Baldia Mujahid Baloch(86-88) revealed that Navy had been digging a 50ft deep well near the pillars of Bridge. Military and civil dictators are just busy to suck this city unless nothing left.
“this bridge was part of notorious signal free corridor”. In udru these types of comments are called “SUFAID JHOOT”. This guy seems to have crossed even the CIA (world leader of spreading lies). This bridge is part of a bypass, connecting the sea port with Super Highway, bypassing the city area. Signal free corridor crosses through the city areas and is approx. 5-6km away from the bypass.
In any case it is a tragic event. Minister of communication, NHA chief, NLC chief should resign and a proper inquiry should be performed.
Rs0.5 million for each dead announced by prime minister .. ..
i say take 1.5 million from me and make prime minister pass under the other side of that bridge which is still intact…
MQM is alway eager to take credit for all development projects but normally when a project becomes controversial then MQM’s leader sideline themselves, KPT underpass was inaugurated by Baber Ghauri but when water filled up, MQM simply sidelined it self and started blaming others.. similarly now this bridge was inaugurated by Mush and Shamim siddique and now MQM simply has nothing to do with this project…
signal free corridor ??
helloooooooo!
D0CTOR, wake up, - thats northern bypass connecting Karachi port with Super Highway. Helloooo,, helloooo D0CTOR
hellooo… the bridge is northern bypass entry / exit artery.. the curve transom is exit side of by pass, which has fallen down and from day one of its placement procedures started, it WAS point of debate, and since it was SOFT opened in April this year, after construction. Area nazim complained, “the freight forwarders association complained of vibrations when managing the turn on exit.
Many may not know, the damaged heavy equipment of allied forces in Afghanistan is shipped out back home via Karachi port, their drivers also complained of vibrations, therefore the standard procedure adopted by them to take exit of this bypass was - ONE after another, One marshal stands at the entry point short of Caltex fuel station, other was deputed right in the middle of curve and the 3rd one on the landing, all 3 with radios to give a ” GO - no Go ” to their long trailers with damaged metal. Those caravans always crossed the bypass between 2 AM to 5 AM in dark.
It is on record of NHA and NLC, - IT was basic design fault which everyone ignored.
The same FAULT is on the approach side of Hino flyover when going up from Korangi side,. want to TEST -
walk up to the middle, put your hands on the side wall, wait till few ‘CARS’ cross you simultaneously on cruve……!
When would WE stop playing with ourselves.
It is not Politics it is about Engineering.
It is crime of NHA, who accepted the POOR design, and Allowed NLC to play with lives of people, NLC engineers supposedly ‘civil engineers’ committed crime by ignoring the design fault and completing the job.
from a common man point: 3 people are deserve Capital punishment for the failure and collapose of this Bridge.
1. The designer who designed and proposed it.
2. The Boss who approved the design, and awarded the contract for construction.
3. The Team leader who signed the acceptance and satisfaction note for release of payment.
Suo moto notice from Supreme Court is requested -
(they may not because it is about karachi and federation is least bothered about Karachi.)
Allah save us all, Allah be praised.
@Abdul Sami this bridge never existed even after Naimutullah khan was long gone.. it was recently built
Praising Allah won’t save Karachiites from falling bridges; good engineering design and execution will.
To mention the name of minister and party MQM was not to blame to MQM but nevertheless these are the people who are head of ministry and organization involved respectively..what you think who will take responsibility for it? Ministry of religious affairs?
very interesting logic applied by MQM’s shamim siddique that if a bridge can collapse in USA so why raise any objection if a bridge collapses here after 25 day of its inauguration …
don’t be surprised if using the same logic Baber ghauri announces in comming days that PIDC building has collapsed coz of recent fire weakened its beams and structure just like world trade tower collapsed when (according to official version) jet feul fire melted the beams and columns causing it to collapse
minister sahib sacked 3 GMs of NHA and the project director.. Altaf bai must have not given him permission to resign so that no finger pointing could be done on MQM… just sack as many subordinate as you can
@Jamal 3 american marshals ? O_o
i have seen containers meant for American embassy kabul on expressway few times
consultant firm black listed by Minister Sahib…
DOCTOR in need of DOCTOR
D0CT0R
Not the marshall from us justice dept
Traffic / logistic marshalls
not americans… but Pakistanis’.
if i am not mistaken this is the pic of same bridge during recent rains..
http://karachi.metblogs.com/archives/images/2007/08/06.jpg
The consultant
http://www.ecil.com/projects/description.asp?id=H79&Name=&pname=Feasibility+Study+and+Detailed+design+of+Karachi+Northern+Bypass%2E
Doctor, any enlightened comments on this piece of “news” please … “this bridge was part of notorious signal free corridor”.
there are many other portion of bypass passing over the existing city’s bridges over layri river which need to be checked and reinforced
@bluemax so should i rephrase.. notorious northern bypass project.. does it make any difference.. fact remains that lives were lost coz of substandard work
done by contractors and approved by decision makers.. you watched those gory pictures of cars crushed under the wreckage…
Karachiite’s life is just worth.. just Rs0.5 million..
no the picture is of liyari experss way area.
the ones who take 100% credit for any good deed which is done in karachi(without mentioning if they are responsible for it or not as they claim to be in controlof only about a thrid of the city) should now also come forward when anything goes wrong!!
it’s obvious that MQM is not responsible for this incident but they should learn not to shout too much and jump and take credit for everthing otherwise they would also be blamed for everything!!
Tune to GEO - Ex-NHA employee Ghulam Nabi Morai is Talking ‘FACTs’
Karachiite’s life is just worth.. just Rs0.5 million.
Yes well the worth has been raised recently, it was Rs.6 aproximately an AK-47 bullet’s cost.
(MQM apologists: dont grumble if I am wrong about the bullet’s cost)
meetha meetha hup hup, karwa karwa thoo thoo
Federal minister for communications Shamim Siddiqui said that a fault was found in the design of the Northern Bypass bridge during its construction and it was allowed to complete the construction of the bridge after the satisfactory rectification of the fault.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=28488
they were very much aware of the problem before hand.. shouldn’t they take the responsibility and step down…
pic of car crushed
http://tinyurl.com/2udydj
in India if any accident happens the concerned minister accepts responsibility and steps down.. here these retards just keep on giving excuses and blaming others.. lust of power has just made them crazy…
zillion of apologise -
yeah sara baray hee ##@#!$!&@I hain, hand in glove, NHA Chief have 2 Mercedes E 350 One Dark Blue Other One Metallic Grey - Toyota Prado is for Begum saheb use, and a fleet of Suzuki jeeps for Servants, at his Chaklala scheme 3 kanal palatail palace, One boy is studying in Sydney the daughter is Married to a Captain of army aviation driving 2005 Honda Accord. Captain Drives Prado 2003 -
AND - he is Patron of Baharia Town :)
NAB ?? wake up
come after me of disclosing this info
http://tinyurl.com/35syva
lucky cement’s concrete mixer truck which fell from the bridge
http://tinyurl.com/3xp9ct
http://tinyurl.com/2w3zwn
pic of another car crushed
http://tinyurl.com/35czdr
@Jamal NHA chief must be contacting his NADRA counterpart to get your details :P
Bite the DUST :) Ashes to Ashes :)
Bahria Town is one of the biggest scandal of Mush’s government…
Doctor picture is very horrendous ..Bas Allah hum pe rehm ata farmein..yeah humhare kamsori he ke ,such shameless ppl who dnt have moral courage to resign openly saying at TV “ab pul girgya ab kia karsaktey hain”…nothing will happen we all forget this like 5-12 massacre…this is price of our wrong deeds that we are ruled by such group of morons.. we all are the responsible of all those ppl who killed in this incident.
this bridge costed tax payer Rs 560 Million .. and was inaugurated by Mush and MQM’s Shamim Siddique on 6th August ..
shockingly NHA’s team have just inspected the bridge and they’re saying that rest of the remaining bridge can collapse anytime..(maybe they’re not taking any chances and saving their necks by issuing this warning so that incase it collapses in comming days then they’d not be blamed…)
Bahria, army generals and chaudry brother’s nexus
http://dawn.com/2007/08/22/nat21.htm
Karachi is suffering traffic problem ,rain water ,drainage ,bad roads ,poor governance and Govt blame on others …All the Bhattaa khoor now become contractor of city govt and of course share goes also to Altaf bai…once again chief of the blunder ministers has said that cheif minister or the CDGK bear no responsibility on this tragic event.They are not the inspectors, they are not traffic sergents, they are the government but still they bear no responsibility of this bad governance
It’s time for SC to take suo motto action against Ministry of Communication.
Shafiq on Pakistaniat explains the entire equation of project cost.
3.5 billion minus 25% to the Military Inc. minus 10% to MQM minus 20% to other functionaries and sub-contractors minus 10% to the pir or jagirdars = sub-standard bridge that has warranty of no more than 21 days.
yeah sarey anti -MQM haramkhor Karachi ka maal khatain hain aur MQM ko Galiyan nikaltey hain !!!
its not humanly possible for SC to take suo motto action on every matter..
(those who are responsible)their own moral conscience should force them to resign
@Syed grand terrorist Altaf bai collects batha(extortion money) from Karachiites and spends in london
and not a single penny is given by MQM’s supporter from their own pockets.. its purely the hard earned money of poor karachiites that extorted from them and sent to london for him to feast…
Karachi ka maal… you beloved Altaf bai does not send “maal” from london.. its otherway around.. its our money thats making his tummy plump…
@Syed
tum MQM walo Army ke saath alliance karte ho phir unhe ko galia dete ho…MQM walo ne karachi ke liye kiya he sawaye Qatal, Kidnapping, daikaiti or bhatta khori ke.
Another thing - the government is quick to pay off the deaths with cash rewards. This time, the grand prize for dying is Rs. 500,000 per body. This is taxpayers’ money - why should we first pay for the road, and then to have the road kill someone?
What about the engineer (who was bunking university in his days, certainly) and the construction overseers? How about charge them, and make them pay? Why is the government treating the taxpayers’ money like a king’s treasure. They don’t own it. May be the citizen on their own would like to grant more to console the families - but that should be our decision, not the king’s.
People here make me sick , all they know is to crtisise , they are critisising a party who has first time in the history of Pakistan given power to ordinary people .
Yes there have been elements in party who took Bhatta , but they acted on their own , thus giving party a bad name ,regardless any good work done by city government is never appreciated by these sick narrow minded Jamati guys here, as soon a a tragedy hits our city , they are the firt to raise fingure…..
sad pppl with sad lives .,
Jamatis like this fake Doctor hamarey Mashrey ka nasoor hain !!!!
3 vehicles damaged as girder falls off bridge same thing had happened a month earlier.. these contractors need to hanged publicly
http://www.dawn.com/2006/11/19/local9.htm
@Syed you really amuse me
@Doctor,
I agree; the contractor, the engineers who design and constructed this bridge, and other people who leeched money from this project’s budget should be exposed, black listed and charged with first-degree murder.
At least the government is taking action; the people who were part of the bridge development are now listed in the Exit Control List (ECL).
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/sep2007-daily/02-09-2007/main.htm
Tax payer, tax payer, tax payer money.
Kambakhto’n, Karachi may tax daitay kitnay loge hai’n?
I don’t want to hear this tax payer BS again!
@BALMA
Karachi mai jitney log bhi detey hun wo pooray mulka ka 67% bunta hai.
I hope you will keep your mouth shut now.
Screw them who are responsible for this screw up.
Don’t give them another chance.
hmmm kisi jamaat ka qasoor nahin hai…. woh tou sab apna kaam sincere hokah kartay hain lakin yeh achanak drig road bridge kyun band kardeya ager sab apna kaam sincere hokah kartay hain? liaqatabad underpass par us kah baaddosre bridge and underpasses aik aik kar kah band hokah theek karne kah leye dil main choore ho aur kaam theek na ho tou yehi halat hoti hai
@balma and @jay are most stupid persons on this metblog.
I think they shud take admission in any sort of circus so that ppl may get benefit from them on holidays.
You know what’s funny? MQM vs MQM battle goes on. Mustafa Kudaal blames Ministry of Communicaton while Shamim siddiqui blames City govt.
acha hey apas me larh larh kar marjain.
[b]@BALMA
Karachi mai jitney log bhi detey hun wo pooray mulka ka 67% bunta hai.
I hope you will keep your mouth shut now.
Posted by: MB at September 2, 2007 08:42 AM[/b]
bhai woh revenue hota hai shayed .. tax nahin
Supreme court is off on Sunday. we shall wait for Monday :) -
AND says who ? there is no names on ECL yet, don’t `play around and create rumors !
#1 -
revenue aur tax mai keya farq hota hai ?
pic of car crushed under the rubble (dawn)
http://tinyurl.com/2hsohm
these bridge were meant for heavy traffic.. so its a very lame excuse that the concrete mixer truck of lucky cement was overweight and it caused the bridge to collapse..
city of 15 million + people and we don’t have any equipment at our disposal using which we can remove rubble … fire in 4th story of a highrise building isn’t extinguished coz we don’t have adequate equipment.. and concerned minister says that building is just burning and we can’t do much.. and then they go around boasting that they’ll create a skyscrapper as high as 1947 feet(kpt tower)
city of 15 million + people and we don’t have any equipment at our disposal using which we can remove rubble … fire in 4th story of a highrise building isn’t extinguished coz we don’t have adequate equipment.. and concerned minister says that building is just burning and we can’t do much.. and then they go around boasting that they’ll create a skyscraper as high as 1947 feet(kpt tower).. we wait for our fires to be extinguished by mother nature.. godforbid if any major disaster hits us and we’re screwed … we seriously lack disaster readiness strategy
The downfall of bridge is clear evidence that the people appointing in Gov institutions just because they are punjabi or pathans(Due to Quota System) need to be kicked out).
As far as MQM is concern in this issue,
MQM person has the ministry but the people working under it are all non MQM people, Minister can not be responsible nor MQM can be responsible for that and city gov has nothing to do in this affair, infact former Local bodies minister Mujahid Baloch in his statement said, NAVY were digging for something under the bridge.
I guess people here who are criticising MQM are just doing cheap politics over this issue as every one knows MQM has nothing to do in this case.
This is Called Politics of deads.
MErnai walai chalay gaye or Mafad Parast log us per siyassat ker rahay hain .
Shame On them !!
Please recite Surah Fatiha for every person died in this incident instead of doing politics over the bodies of people died in this accident and the people responsible for this should be delt with the law.
@Ali stop talking punjabi pathan ethnic & racist crap.. you & the other psychos seriously need help
they’ve closed down most of the newly constructed bridges.. eventually it seems that they’ll only allow bicycles and pedestrians on foot to use these bridges .. billions of rupees of taxpayer money going down the drain..
dead donkey,crushed donkey cart and a wrecked corolla car
http://www.flickr.com/photos/79454106@N00/1301571676
@Jamal Shamsi
do a little search on both .. check wiki for detail and then come and ask the same question again. I will tell you then.
Sattar bai ka naya rona.
tinyurl.com/yucgjx
Ab MQM ne dekha k deal bhe nakam hogaye aur Abu Jan(Musharraf) ki Nao doobney wali hay aur dosri taraf bibi aur mian bhe ghas nai daal rahay. Imran ka tu pocho he nahi, wo BAI ko kala pani bhejwa kar he dam leyga.
Sattar bhai forun munnay ban gaye k MQM ka koi qasoor nai, wo tu Gardish-e-Halat ne humay aisa banadia warna Admi hum bhe baray kaam k thay
Karachiite gives 100% of revenue regardless of how much is distributed to others. For Karachiites, “Tax” exists in different forms. Different communities and institutes suck it by using different names.
GOvernment takes it in the name of Revenue and welfare.
MQM takes in the name of “Bhatta”.
Police takes in the name of “Challan” or “Bakhsish”.
If godforbid you have to deal with govt officials, you have to give it in the name of “chai pani” or “mithai”.
Opportunities are endless. Sky is the only limit.
@NoOne
Revenue = “For government, revenues refers to the gross proceeds received from taxes, fees, and the like.”
Tax= “A tax is a financial charge or other levy imposed on an individual or a legal entity by a state”
are you and Balma same person?
besides giving government officials to get your legal work done, you’ve to pay Khidmat Khalq Foundation (KKF) so called welfare wing of MQM..
Ni Siree Boob, koee bhi balma kaa nem-ul-badal nahi’n ho saktaa!
It is a very few people who pay taxes in Pakistan and Karachi so this tax payers money argument is BS.
Second, more you hire people on quota system, more of this will happen. This quota system for last 40 years hsa ruined Pakistan. PIA is a risk to fly on, same is Pak Railways. Keep on hiring based on quota, and keep risking your life guys.
yes Akram’s here.
I have a theory that Akram is former sector Incharge who was kiked out from Tanzeem before he gave Rs.5 less to Altaf bai and this corruption was not tolerated by Altaf bhai because MQM is a corruption free party.
@Mohammed Akram - abay ANDHAY, aqal aur ankh kay dondo kay andhay, last faraz namaz jamat kay sath kab parhi thee, Jhootay makkar,
Andahay ko khawab nazar nahi atay, aur tum tou aqal aur ankh dono kay andahy ho khabees,
Mohammed (PBUH) sai relate kartay ho apni bakwaas ko,
nama qol gadhay insan, hosh karoo
I dont have time to read the entire blog, but for once please understand that the construstion of this bridge had absolutely nothing to do with MQM. Why do you ppl blame them for everything under the sun.
Seriously have you guys ever thought abt using your own head for once, rather then beating tht same damn drum day in day out.
sehba musharraf is pregnant,…………courtesy aamit liaquat hussain MQM
arbab ghulam raheem caught red handed in park smoking marijuana supplied by MQM
KESC failed to generate enough power for karachi, courtesy MQM,
DHA failed to manage sewrage courtesy MQM,
MQM na hoyee bhoot ho gaye har asmani sultani kam mai MQM zimaydar ho gai why are they so important to all of us
@ Doctor
rasict crap ?
M i talking about racism ???
Bull shit man
Racism is slapping Quota System on urdu speaking people so that these punjabi pathans with out merit get gov jobs.
Why there is a Quota System ?
Is Quota System not racism ??
Till there is a Quota System till there are in justices against Urdu Speaking people i will be talking these things no matter u called me racist or anything else.
MQM is a threat to not only the Wadera shahi mullahism but also the soo called urdu speaking elite who never faced anything like unemployment, social injustices and Quota System.
They never get harassed by Punjabi Pathan Transporters nor their women are undressed on Banaras and Sohrab Goth nor they saw massacres of Ali Gerh Qazba and other localities.
The whole Nation is barking about 12 may but what about 15 dec 1986 when 400 innocent men women children were massacred in a night ??
This is racism if people like Doctor or Adnan Siddiqui who called them selves urdu speaks can’t raised voices against injustices on their own community they shouldn’t forget the fact that they are digging their own graves by sidelining them selves from their own race.
Remember Lion the King of jungle only caught that deer that part his ways from its herd and time is quite near when you people will face the smae .
@ali, mqm is just a ghunda party than any thing else.
u sound like pure mqm ghunda.
mqm was made to work against ppp, long ago by agencies.
how can u say that this kinda party is gonna work in welfare of ppl? (including urdu speaking :D)
I dont know whether those 400 ppl were innocent as those who got “martyred” against pathans , when travelling to hyderabad. duh!!
U R JUST PATHETIC THAN ANY THING ELSE. stop barking now , u racist crap.
mqm has done such bad things over the years the ppl just hate them.
they dont care of urdu speaking or punjabi etc etc.
they just do ghunda gardi. and since they are govt. for quite a while, and they dont know ne thing about how manage things, this misss managemenet is happening.
Why doctor wasn’t travelling on this bridge when it collapsed !!
Why doctor wasn’t travelling on this bridge when it collapsed !!
@ IUnknown
MQM work for Karachi and we the urdu speaking LOVE MQM and Altaf Hussain.
I guess you are blind or dont wana see how MMQ working day and night for the betterment of This City.
As far as your cries concern that MQM was made by agencies against PPP, kindly tell me how much share PPP had in karachi policitcs before MQM ?
how many seats PPP got in 1970 77 elections from karachi ?Urdu Speaks Hate PPP as they introduced Quota System they moved sindhi Language bill which were totally pathetic and based on racism.
and you don’t know anything!!
you said ”
I dont know whether those 400 ppl were innocent as those who got “martyred” against pathans , when travelling to hyderabad. duh!!”
sorry to say these 400 people matyred on 15 dec 1986 and they were not travelling from hyderabad, they were massacred because a sindhi speaking governer Ghous Ali shah made an operation on Pathans business(Illegal weapon and rug business) on Sohrab Goth and in return the pathsn massacred urdu speaks just to stop the operation.
and as far as ur statement that i am barking, U know for yourself i am not barking, if im barking then you don’t have need to reply me.
People here who are urdu speaks realised all what i wrote here and thats is causing pain to people like youu and you people coming to karachi to capture the jobs and business of urdu speaking people.
@ Doctor
@Abdul Sami this bridge never existed even after Naimutullah khan was long gone.. it was recently built
Dcotor i guess you are mad or you are a BIG LIER.
Naimatullah took the Oath of Nazim Karachi in 2001 and Remain till 2005.
Now To nothern Bypass.
Started in 2002 and completed in 2007
Why you lied soo much Doctor ???
@Ali am talking about this specific bridge.. it is part of Northern Bypass.. i pass through that area almost every day and i didn’t saw this bridge until recently .. those who pass through shershah intersection towards expressway must have also noticed..
obviously its tough time for MQM.. recent rains have ruined all the cosmetic development , PIDC fire scandal and now this bridge collapsing.. seems like nothing is going there way when elections are almost round the corner..
@Syed had it collapsed at around 6:30 in the evening then certainly you and Altaf bai could have heaved a sigh of relief ;)
@ Doctor
My Dear doctor !!!
Was that bridge built by MQM ??
was that bridge was not part of Nothern bypass? it was built seperately? OR only this bridge of nothern bypass was built by MQM ?
There is no tough time for MQM doctor. as Karachi is much better then DHA the Posh locality of Karachi.
Nothing has been ruined.
Infact the badley effected roads were made in Naimat Ullah tenure especially University road.
ANyways you are a big lier you saw that bridge recently but it was part of Nothern bypass that was started in Naimat Ullah tenure much before MQM minister took oath so nothing to do with MQM.
You are much frustrated that you change the name of PNSC into PIDC and putting the blame of bridge collasping on MQM which has nothing to do with it and you are doing all that because you want to save the real culprits that are punjabi pathan mafia who are capturing Gov jobs just because of Quota System, and as these punjbi pathans are not capable of doing things the easiest way is to put blame on MQM.
Good going Doctor keep going everyone here knows what is truth and what are lies by LIERS like you.
GURCHA BUT HAIN JAMATIO KI ASTINOO MAI
MUJHAY HAY HUKM E AZAN LA ILLAHA ILLALLAH
@Ali let me rephrase and make it easier for u to understand “that bridge(which collapsed) didn’t existed during Naimutullah khan era”
anyways kindly continue with your ethnic & racist crap.. even urdu speaking people are sick and tired of MQM and Altaf’s politics of ethnic hatred and division..
its quite understandable that when ever any thing becomes controversial then MQM sidelines and completely disassociates it self from it..
to conclude i would say ..hum sab kharab hai .. its all over fault ..
@ali, grow up buddy. grow up
@ Doctor
Doctor i asked you a simple question .
Was that bridge not part of Nothern bypass?
That bypass not started in Naimat Ullah Era ??
When the contract of Bypass was awarded who was the Nazim of Karachi ??
and about ethnic and racist crap.
Till there are injustices Quotas against urdu speaking people i will be a soo called racist.
Doctor till you are making baseless allegations against MQM im here to counter you and people like you who are basically Jamtis no matter what you say as you are putting blame on MQM of collapsed bridge that has nothing to do with MQM .
come on grow up karachi is not a pind where you can simply said that bridge was made by MQM and people with closed eyes would beleive you .
@ IUnknown
i am trying to growup man you also tried to do so.
Read some history of Karachi and Pakistan as you know nothing , you don’t know what happened in 1986 and you are making base less allegations.
Come one Man read some history.
Simple Question to you !!
Why Muslim league faced humiliating defeat from Punjab in 1945 elections and why Punjabi’s gave anti Pakistan party Unionist party thumping victory.
Why did the bridge fail?
http://www.thenews.com.pk/print1.asp?id=70724
By By Roland deSouza
The sudden collapse of a curved elevated section of the recently-inaugurated Karachi Northern Bypass (KNB) at the intersection of the RCD Highway and Central Avenue in SITE has sent tremors through the engineering community and the government construction industry. About ten people have died so far, and numerous vehicles (including a donkey) lie crushed in the debris of the structure.
The question on everyone’s lips: Whose fault is it? This is difficult question to answer without a detailed investigation into the original design, the construction quality, the construction supervision record, the subsequent strengthening design, and many other factors. Can the government ensure that this is competently done without any cover-ups or concealments?
Allegedly, about a year ago, the structure of the bridge tilted during construction. A decision was made not to dismantle and reconstruct, but to provide external reinforcement after jacking up the sagging portion. In hindsight, the decision may be questioned — but it was made at the time by supposedly responsible professionals with an ethical duty to public safety.
At my request, a noted structural engineer involved in bridge designing posed some questions that need to be investigated in the forensic engineering analysis (see box).
Of the various actors in the KNB drama (owner, consultant, contractor), two are military-run organisations. The National Highway Authority (NHA), the federal organisation that commissioned the 56-kilometre bypass is headed by Maj. General Imtiaz Ahmed as Chairman (although most of the project was done under the chairmanship of Maj. General Farrukh Jawed).
The construction contractor is the National Logistics Cell (NLC), an organisation whose ‘Sarbarah’ is the Quarter Master General, Lt. General Afzal Muzaffar, and the Director-General is Maj. General Khalid Zaheer. NLC was created in1978 as a crisis management organisation of the federal government. It works in close co-operation with the Army and is primarily driven by manpower drawn from there. NLC’s diversification into mushroom businesses, investments, construction and collection of toll taxes has caused concern in the government and Public Accounts Committee (PAC) circles. They are now venturing into speculative commercial construction, with the over-sized 43-storey Karachi Financial Towers proposed to be erected on a 2.5 acre plot carved out of the amenity railway yard on I.I. Chundrigar Road.
The designers for the KNB are Engineering Consultants International (Pvt) Ltd (ECIL) a 700-professional strong consultancy firm, headed by Engr. Zaheer Mirza. Some, yet unnamed, foreign consultants were brought in to oversee the strengthening of the tilted bridge structure.
Shamim Siddique, the MQM Federal Minister for Communications, is reported to have said “I am ready to resign if there is any mistake on my part.” Politicians are acrobats: They keep their balance by saying the opposite of what they do!
Pakistani leaders are well-known for expressing “deep shock” and “severe grief over loss of life”. They are equally well-known for promising “to leave no stone unturned” during the investigation to “fix the responsibility”, and “make accountable” the guilty persons. But our record of delivering on these exaggerated promises is dismal. So don’t hold your breath.
How easy will it be to find a military-run organisation at fault, even though all the three actors in the drama probably participated in the decision to choose the strengthening option over the dismantling/reconstruction one?
There have been numerous catastrophic structural collapses during Pakistan’s 60-year history; the most recent being the Margalla Towers in Islamabad. Angelique Apartments, Dadabhoy Centre, and Fayza Heights are among the many known to all in Karachi. Holes have developed in the deck slabs of Jam Sadiq Ali Bridge in Korangi, and, for the second time, in the bridge connecting Sharae Faisal to Rashid Minhas Road. There is dire need to continuously evaluate the safety of old bridges and structures, and to verify the integrity of various over/underpasses (Nazimabad, Liaquatablad Gharibabad, etc) both recently-built and those under construction (Askari-IV, Jahaur Intersection, Gulshan Chowrangi, Nagan Chowrangi, etc). Have these all been built by qualified, PEC-licensed contractors and designed/supervised by competent engineering consultants?
We need to move from blaming God (Allah Ki Marzi) for all calamities, to ensuring better standards of construction and safety in Pakistan.
Some questions that need to be asked
‚Ä¢ The curved part of the bridge seems to have collapsed when a cement tanker was passing near the middle of the curved span. Had ‘torsion’ and ’shear’ been taken into account in the design?
• Extensive fibre reinforced polymer (FRP) composite retrofit reinforcement appear to have been applied at the bottom, sides of web, and as confinement to the circular columns as strengthening of the structure after it was constructed. How was the necessity of this strengthening realised, and to what degree of thoroughness was the repair/retrofit analysed?
• There is evidence of extensive failure of the inclined web of the box girder at the support. How did this come about?
http://www.ecil.com/projects/description.asp?id=H79&Name=&pname=Feasibility+Study+and+Detailed+design+of+Karachi+Northern+Bypass%2E
wah wah wah …….aisay logon k under humaray karachi k tariqyati kam chal rahay hain..,….wat the hell!! don’t the lives of ppl matter to anyone anymore? there are hundreds of cars and public vehicles in karachi but there aren’t enuff machines that can save ppl ………these flyovers are supposed to last for 100 years and it cudn’t even last one month ….wat the hell are these ppl doing?? ….they all want money!!! …they are all corrupt from top till bottom….except some (very very rare) who actually do their work honestly and who actually care for the ppl
i say that a proper inquiry shud be held and the ppl responsible shud be HANGED TILL DEATH!!! (which ofcourse will never happen)
all those out there who really care …pray for the ppl who lost their lives and also for their relatives too
MAY ALLAH BLESS THEM ALL!!!
and i hope that all of you shud be hoping for the punishments of those b*******
@Ali for the umpteenth time i would say that am not a jamat supporter.. am a common karachiite sick and tired of MQM’s politics of ethnic hatred and terrorism … on other issues its completely pointless to argue with you…
@Dogtor,
“even urdu speaking people are sick and tired of MQM and Altaf’s politics of ethnic hatred and division.”
Just speak for yourself. I am a urdu speaker and Proud Mohajir and I support mqm and like Altaf Hussain.
So next time just speak for yourself MR. Dogtor
All you crazy Anti MQM people u are mad and u will remain mad.
All you crazy Anti MQM people u are mad and u will remain mad.
All you crazy Anti MQM people u are mad and u will remain mad.
All you crazy Anti MQM people u are mad and u will remain mad. Jeeya MQM Jeeya Altaf & Jeey Mustafa Kamal.
KARACHI: Nab begins inquiry into contract for Master Plan
http://www.dawn.com/2007/09/10/local15.htm
KARACHI, Sept 9: The National Accountability Bureau (Nab) has launched investigation into the alleged corruption in the award of Karachi Master Plan-2020 Project to a firm, M/s Engineering Consultants International (ECIL), a Nab statement issued here on Sunday said.
In response to the Expression of Interest (EoI) invited by the city government for the project in November 2004, as many as 13 firms and consortia had submitted their offers. These were subsequently evaluated for pre-qualification by the Technical Evaluation Committee (TEC), constituted by the city government.
Four of the 13 consortia were pre-qualified by the TEC, of which three consortia of consultants had submitted their technical and financial proposals.
“While examining the documents submitted by M/s ECIL, it has come to the light that the firm had falsely represented itself as partner of the Applied Economics Research Centre, University of Karachi,” the Nab statement said.
“The former nazim, Naimatullah Khan, and the Technical Evaluation Committee (TEC) over-ruled advice of the EDO Law in this regard and the Master Plan-2020 contract was awarded to the same firm in spite of major irregularities committed by this firm,” the statement claimed.–APP
http://www.dawn.com/2007/09/10/local15.htm
Judicial probe into Karachi bridge collapse sought
ISLAMABAD, Sept 16: Consumer Watch Pakistan (CWP) on Sunday demanded a judicial inquiry into the collapse of the Sher Shah Bridge section of the Karachi Northern Bypass.
The bridge collapsed on Sept 1 when a 70-metre long Baldia Loop of the Sher Shah Bridge suddenly buckled without any warning.
The initial cause of the incident was stated to be the collapse of the 120-metre long box girder, whose design was controversial yet it was approved by foreign consultants. The collapse resulted in the death of six persons, injuries to several others and severe damage to many vehicles.
Shamim Siddiqui, the federal minister for communication, announced on the day of incident, that an inquiry committee was being constituted that would submit a report within two weeks but no such report has been released yet although two weeks have passed, a statement issued by the CWP said here on Sunday. It said this clearly showed that government authorities were not sincere in ascertaining the actual cause of the incident and fixing responsibility of the bridge collapse that was inaugurated only three weeks before its collapse. The collapse has raised serious questions about the capacity of Engineering Consultants International Limited (ECIL) and National Logistic Cell (NLC) to design and execute such mega projects. Under the circumstances, CWP has appealed to the government to thoroughly inquire the matter through an inquiry committee, consisting of the judges of the Sind High Court.
It demanded an immediate judicial inquiry into the incident and blacklisting the company responsible for this criminal negligence. Until the judicial inquiry is finalised, the personnel of both the companies that managed the project, should be kept on the Exit Control List (ECL) so that important proof and information should not be allowed to escape. The cost of damages and compensation to the deceased and the injured should be paid by the company found responsible for the failure of the structure.
Moreover, work on all the projects being handled by NLC and ECIL should be stopped immediately and a third party review should be made mandatory before the initiation of work on those projects, it demanded. The collapse sums up the state of road safety in Pakistan. The tragic incident also reflects the quality of work Pakistani firms are producing in road projects. The CWP stressed the need to make the Karachi bridge collapse inquiry as a benchmark in Pakistan’s engineering history and culprits should be punished, irrespective of their status.–PPI
Karachi bridge collapse: CWP demands judicial enquiry F.P. Report
http://www.thefrontierpost.com/News.aspx?ncat=hn&nid=150&ad=17-09-2007
Lahore: Consumer Watch Pakistan (CWP) has demanded judicial enquiry into the collapse of Sher Shah Bridge of Karachi Northern bypass. The bridge was collapsed on September 1, when a 70 meter long Baldia loop of Sher Shah Bridge buckled suddenly before giving any warning. The initial cause of the incident was stated to be the collapse of 120 meters long box girder whose design was controversial but was approved by foreign consultants. The collapse resulted in death of 6 persons, injuring several others and damages to many vehicles. Shamim Sadiqui, Federal Minister for Communication, announced on the day of incident, that an enquiry committee is being constituted which would submit the report within two weeks but no such report has been released yet. This clearly shows that government authorities are not sincere in ascertaining the actual cause of the incident and fixing the responsibility of the collapse of bridge that was commissioned only 3 weeks ago. Its collapse has raised serious questions on the capacity of Engineering Consultants International Limited (ECIL) and National Logistic Cell (NLC) to design and execute such mega projects. Under the circumstances, CWP has appealed the government to enquire the matter through an enquiry committee consisting of the Judges of Sind High Court. The collapse of Karachi Bridge sums up the state of road safety in Pakistan. The incidents also comments over the quality of work which Pakistani firms are producing in road projects. There are hundreds of roads which are built at the cost of heavy public exchequer but are washed away in first rain. The actual cause of these incidents lies in the culture of corruption which has engulfed our engineering departments. Due to heavy kickbacks, commissions and bribes involved, the contractors are left with a little money to execute the projects according to the specifications. Every contract document carries a commitment from the contractor that the structure will remain intact for a specific period. Had this clause of contracts been operationalized in letter and spirit, Pakistan’s engineering sector would have been purged of black sheep. But the examples of actual enquiries and punishment to the contractors are only few and far between. There is a need to make the Karachi bridge incident and subsequent enquiry as a benchmark in Pakistan’s engineering history and culprits should be punished irrespective of their status. Many objections are being raised against the design of the project. The design of the project may be faulty but substantial attention should also be diverted towards the quality of work and quality of material used. CWP demands immediate judicial enquiry in the incident and company responsible for this criminal negligence should be black-listed forthwith. Until the judicial enquiry is finalized, the personnel of both the companies, who have managed the project, should be kept on Exit Control List (ECL) so that important proof and information should not go wasted. The cost of damages and compensations to deceased and injured should be paid by the company found responsible for the failure of the structure. Moreover, work on all the projects in Pakistan being handled by NLC and ECIL should be stopped and a third party review should be made before the initiation of work on those projects.
Authorities trying to sabotage probe
http://www.thefrontierpost.com/News.aspx?ncat=cn&nid=113&ad=16-09-2007
KARACHI (NNI): Expressing displeasure over “Sher Shah Bridge” investigation, the relatives of the “Northern Bypass Bridge Collapse” victims have demanded President General Pervez Musharraf, Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz and the