Tortured and murdered

Three people, presumably going about their business as usual, were tortured and killed in Karachi in the last month. More people were definitely killed and perhaps others tortured to, but these three stand out for the sheer wretchedness of their alleged murderers: a splinter sectarian group decided that the three men needed to be tortured and then killed for their sin – the sin of being a Shia or an Ahmadi. In this city, where fiction doesn’t hold a candle to reality, one of the victims was allegedly mistaken for being a member of the Shia community.

124 Comments so far

  1. Mr. Indian (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 2:49 am

    “And one more thing you brainwashed little BJP killer. The muslims ruled your sorry ass for 1000 years. If we wanted to kill you all we could have. But we didnt.”

    aa gaya kutta apnee aukat pe. I didn’t take him long for a paki to say that. Have you ever wondered who your forefathers were. They were all hindus once who were converted by force.

    So stop using ‘we’ because you were never Turks or Arabs.

    You must be really proud of yourself to worship a religion which was forced upon your ancestors. Please don’t fool yourself that your ancestors willingly converted from hinduism to ‘superior’ islam. That’s a horse shit which only pakis would believe. Wanna proof. In 1000 yr islamic rule, the percentage of low caste dalits of india never changed. Why didn’t low caste converted to islam en-masse when they had a golden chance to convert out of garbage called hinduism. They didn’t. because they knew that for all its ills, hinduism is still better than islam.
    Even Ambedkar converted to bhuddism and not islam. He said “if hinduism is poison, then islam is snake”.
    Even today dalits convert to bhuddism or christianity, but never islam.

  2. Balma (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 2:50 am

    *well I have a day off and what better way to spend your time than to tell pakis their aukat.

    *** Great. Aap kal nahi’n aayai’n gae naa!

  3. Mr. Indian (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 2:58 am

    “No. The muslims did not start the riots. It was hindus full of hate such as yourself that killed 2000+ muslims and burned them alove in the bakery. And they were fuelled by the hatred that is taught to you in your Gita and Mahabharata where you are told to worship gods and godesses of destruction”

    says who? There is enough documentation available that the train carrying hindus was stopped and coach burnt intentionally by a muslim mob shouting “burn hindu burn”. The riot was a tit-for-tat.

    You did not answer my other question. If the anti muslim was preplanned attack due to hatred, why was it in Godhra only. why not in mumbai, delhi and other place where there are many muslims. You know Bal Thackery would love to send muslims to jahannum in mumbai. yet not a single muslim was killed in mumbai when godhra was burning.

    I have asked this Q to many Pakis who just run away.

    Of course the indian govt is smart enuf to bury everything under the carpet. The official reason was the fire occured in the train coach due to accient. And officially only 759 muslims died in the riots as opposed to 250 hindus. So either you pick both or none.

    Everytime an anti muslim riots happen in india, it is due to instigation by muslims. that’s why it happens once in 5/10 yrs only and muslims generally learn their lesson and keep their trap shut for another 5/10 yrs.

    Now can you please tell how frequently shia sunni bombings happen in your pakiland.

  4. Reality_Check (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 3:00 am

    INDIAN when was there an ISLAMIC RULE in India? true there were Turks, Khilji’s, Moughals and others…they were just conquerors just like Elexander or Ferdenand, nobody was doing it for Islam. In fact moghals adopted secular ideals for india and Akber went as far ahead as to create a new religion. His prime minister and Army Cheif’s were Hindus. These islamic aspiorations spawned much later during the British rule.

  5. kaduna2003 (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 3:02 am


    Hahahhahaha.. thanks for showing your true black and ugly hating inner self again you moron!!!

    No one buys that stupid ass BJP spin about your origins or ours. India has been a place that everyone has invaded starting from the aryans. And everytime someone invaded your dirty rapid hating kittay and gidar went further south. Like yourself. :)

    Yes we invaded. And we know you want to keep insisting that “pakistanis are like indians only—yeah yeah” but ummmm NO, Sorry….we dont want anything to do with you and your ugly kind. Not only are you ugly from the outside, you are ugly from the inside too. So no, we dont belong to india. YOu are a different race. A sad one So be happy were you are and stop trying to say “india pakistan same same onlyyyy”. Hahhahahahahhaa.

  6. Reality_Check (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 3:08 am

    So Muslims in india are in a different bracket than hindus…..hmmmm …..I smell prejuidice and discrimination……is India for hindus only? Is your bias reflective of majority opinion? or are you just another frustrated individual driven by hate?

  7. Mr. Indian (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 3:08 am

    Indians are ugly???

    then why do you watch bollywood movies and jerk off fantasizing Madhuri, Aishwarya, Rani. Show me one paki actress who is even half as pretty as them. All paki actresses I see on TV when I glance thru channels are as ugly as hell. No wonder pakis love bollywood movies. Even they find it impossible to watch their actors.

    It is amazing how pakis considered themselves to be arabs, when arabs themselves treat them like shit. Ask any pakistani who has been to saudi Arabia for haj.

  8. Mr. Indian (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 3:11 am

    “So Muslims in india are in a different bracket than hindus…”

    Can you elaborate what do you mean by this. I did not get it.

  9. kaduna2003 (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 3:23 am

    @ indian

    For starters, i dont watch indian movies. I think they are the most stupid thing ever on TV. Whats with all the stupid gyrations and songs while hugging trees??? Looks dumb!

    And second, i have been to india and know the beauty and uglyless level there. Most of your actresses are ugly if you ask me. Ive seen pics of aishwarya. She reminds me of a tandoor wali dai.

    But if they look pretty to you. Thats fine. To each his own. Just dont try that “indians and pakis are same only…no??” bullshit again in that indian accent.

  10. Mr. Indian (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 3:34 am


    perhaps you think too much of your credibility and have grand delusions of your importance. What you think about indian movies and whether u have been to india is of no significance to others as your opinion is deemed worthless.

    I was talking of pakis in general. It is a well known fact that pakis love bollywood movies. They listen to bollywood songs and watch Indian TV programs.

    So the Q is, who do superior muslims of pakistan have to watch bollywood movies. Could it be that there is no superiority whatsoever and it is only a figment of imagination.

    here is a letter to the editor. Read it and weep. This shows how much indian movies/tv has penetrated into so called pakistani culture.
    BTW I can produce many such letters from ur own newspapers.

    Man, you must have a skin thicker than buffalo to come back to this thread repeatedly despite getting insulted left and right by me with solid proofs of pakistan’s inferiority in every sphere of life.

    >Getting information about another culture is good if it is not at the expense of
    >one’s own culture. Unfortunately the spell of Indian channels has spread like a
    >forest fire in Pakistan, drawing most of us away from our traditions and
    >Young and old alike has become addicts of the Indian channels. National
    >language, the most essential nutrient of a culture seems to have gone out our
    >conversation due to the abundant inclusion of Hindi words. And if someone like
    >me dares to interrupt such a practice, one face a huge insult with a usual
    >refrain that ‘Urdu can adopt words from any language.’ Recently I went to a
    >wedding where I heard a little child asking his mother “Mamma! yeh kaisi shadi
    >hai, yahaan phairey tou huay hi nahi?”.
    >I was shell-shocked but realized that children are like mirrors, they will
    >reflect what will be shown to them. It is the parents who should be blamed in
    >this regard. For the sake of their own enjoyment, they watch bold and vulgar
    >Indian soaps in front of their children without bothering about the effects of
    >these hypnotic intoxicants on their innocent brains.
    >The parents should wake up to their responsibilities and strengthen the roots of
    >our culture and religion in their children. After all, they are the inheritors
    >of the culture of tomorrow. -TANZEEL HASSAN, Karachi, via e-mail, September 7.


  11. Balma (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 3:39 am

    PK bhaiyou’n and babes:

    This Indian person is BJP and RSS type. Leave him or her to its own devices. He is a Hindu version of our jamat-e-Islami types, shall we say a Hindu Jamati.

    LEts move on to the next topic. It is getting boring out here.

  12. kaduna2003 (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 3:41 am

    Hahhahahhaa…again reading pakistani news papers?

    Lets see.

    – you prefer to hand around on pakistani blogs
    – you prefer to stick here despite all the abuse you are getting.
    – you read pakistani news papers
    – you even read comments from pakistani readers in newspapers.
    – you insist on trying to be like a pakistani by saying “we are same only …no??”.

    Man…what an inferiority complex. You must really be impressed by all things pakistani. Go on…admit it. Dont lie to yourself again. I kn ow you have self respect issues. But this??? Hahahahhahahaha. You are a real piece of work. Good entertainment. That i admit. :)

  13. Mr. Indian (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 3:43 am

    here is another one to insult you. Here is your film industry begging with govt to allow indian movies to be shown so that their industry can make money.

    So kandua2003, what does it tell about Pakis
    if they are so desperate to watch movies made from a country they hate.

    My paki friend has a nice theory. Pakis consume all indian pulp and then they hate us for being so much better.

    For your record 90% of bollywood movies are crap.

    “Powerful figures in the Pakistan film industry are desperately trying to step up pressure on the government to allow screening of Indian movies in Pakistan.

    They say this is the only way the country’s comatose film industry can be revived.

    The ban was imposed after the Indo-Pakistan war of 1965.

    “The local film industry has proven itself to be completely unable to meet the demands of the local market,” says studio owner and producer Shahzad Gul. ”


  14. kaduna2003 (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 3:50 am


    Well. You are right in this and so i will admit it. Indian movies are popular in pakistan. WHy? i really dont know. you say 90% are crap. I say 100% are crap. Atleast we almost agree on something.

    The reason people watch them pakistan is because no respectable family will allow their children to act in the film industry. And so they end up watching the indian movies instead. because the indian movies are in urdu so its easier to understand. And for the common folks, there isnt any other cheap entertainment available.

    But are they good and something to be proud of? Sorry but Id have to say no. They are pathetic if you ask me. Real poor quality stuff. The whole lot of em.

  15. kaduna2003 (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 3:57 am


    You are correct. Lets move on and hope that he wasnt lying when he said he is here cause he has a day of.

    However, chances are, given the inferiority complex, he will be back on this forum again trying his “we are same same only” stunt and to try and cause infighting.

    In anycase, ill take your advise and see if he comes back tomorrow for more punishment. Im betting that he will. Good night and over and out :)

  16. Reality_Check (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 4:00 am

    BLAMA Thanks for pointing out my mistake, I dont know whether you have seen my corrected post or not. If not please look up, there is a link I want you to read.

  17. .!. (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 4:28 am


    hmmm… about indian beauty,
    ur bollywood stars are a disgrace to ur own ppl, white ppl making fun of what ur actor did in an advert about skin lightening,,dwp_uuid=0da0817c-9c86-11da-8762-0000779e2340.html

    and about Karachi stock market,

    Mark Matthews, regional strategist at Merrill LynchAmanda Drury tells CNBC that he is bullish on the energy and banking sectors in Pakistan.

    karachi is my favourite market in the region , says MARK

  18. Mr. Indian (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 4:57 am

    “Well. You are right in this and so i will admit it. Indian movies are popular in pakistan. WHy? i really dont know.”

    what do you mean you don’t know. Does your ego
    prevent you from admitting that pakis love indian
    movies, regardless of quality of bollywood movies.

    “The reason people watch them pakistan is because no respectable family will allow their children to act in the film industry. And so they end up watching the indian movies instead.”

    no respectable family will allow their children to act
    in movies, but they would allow them to watch the
    latkas and jhatkas of bollywood babes with songs
    like “dhak dhak karne laga”??? Wow. what logic.
    Man, are all pakis as confused as you.

    “But are they good and something to be proud of? ”

    depends. I am proud of movies like Satya, Company, Dil Chahta Hain, Lakshya and Rang De Basanti. The technical prowess shown by indian movies is very impressive.
    But majority of them are crap.

    But hindi movies are not the only movies india makes. There are excellent in other languages too.

    But I do get kicks when people from other countries (specially muslim countries) tell me how much they love bollywood movies. Taxi drivers from Egypt, Afghanistan sing Amithab Bachchan songs (yes I have heard them).
    I just imagine what must be their taste to enjoy our pulp (and that too trashy). At least these trashy movies are our own movies and there is a reason for some indians to like them. But why these jokers from other countries watch our movies. Are their own movies crap beyond words. Must be. Who will willingly watch inferior movies from other countries?

  19. Mr. Indian (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 5:08 am

    I have inferiority complex??? I have insulted you left-n-right with all data/news taken from your own newspapers and you have declared yourself the victorious.

    One learned person told me that muslims always declare themselves victorious with non muslims because they believe muslims can never loose. This goes to ridiculous extent also like when
    Saddam declared the 1991 Gulf war as the mother of all battles and Iraq the victorious country. All this even before the war started.

    I see it in this post.

  20. .!. (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 6:03 am




    When I was a child my grandmother took me to one side and said make sure you’re good at something, no man will ever marry you for your looks,” she says.

    “I knew this was because I was dark skinned. It was treated as a disease and every Friday I had to have oil baths in an attempt to lighten my skin

    She feels a major Bollywood star backing a skin-lightening cream will intensify the prejudice that already exists within the South Asian community, in which the darker skinned can find themselves looked down upon – just as it still happens in parts of India today.

    “Deep within this 5,000-year-old culture is the thought that high ideals, nobility and high caste are associated with fair skin,” she says. “Dark skin is regarded as low status and low caste.”

    Television commercials for Fair and Handsome, airing in August, show Mr Khan (or “SRK”) lauding a product that many see as entrenching discrimination based on skin colour by encouraging people to bleach themselves a lighter hue.

  21. d0ct0r (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 6:23 am

    Brits to nail Altaf
    Americans have asked British government to rein in the grand terrorist Altaf bai and ask him not to disrupt return of BB to karachi or stage 12 may type massacre and keep his gang of terrorist off the streets on 18th October.. brits have sent a clear signal to Altaf and he knows that brits will nail him if he attempts any thing stupid and have assured them that his terrorist won’t disrupt things…

  22. Mr. Indian (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 6:35 am

    So is pakistan better in any aspect.

    “According to estimates – as many as 70 percent of women in Pakistan experience domestic violence. This violence can range from beatings, to sexual violence or torture, to broken bones and very serious injury caused by pouring of acid or burning the victim alive.”

    See india has problems. Many problems. No one can deny that. But what is heartening is that despite these seemingly unsurmountable problems, India is going forward with an enery not seen for a long time. Pakistan OTOH has nothing but pessimism written all over it. Western journalist who travel to pakistan report that pakistani youth are most despondent when it comes to future of pakistan as if there is nothing in the country to feel proud about and the situation is hopeless.

    > > Sir: This is apropos Shashi Tharoor’s article “India’s democracy at
    > > 60” (Daily Times, August 10). While extolling India’s democratic
    > > existence, Mr Shashi Tharoor mentioned, “the electoral market place
    > > means that no single communal identity can dominate others. Three
    > > years ago, India, a country that is 81% Hindu, saw a Roman Catholic
    > > political leader (Sonia Gandhi) make way for a Sikh (Manmohan Singh),
    > > who was sworn in by a Muslim (President Abdul Kalam).” This is an
    > > undeniable truth and all credit to India. Thriving, as one of the
    > > world’s largest democracies is reason enough for India to celebrate
    > > it’s sixty years with pride and fervour.

    > > It is sad, however, that Pakistan, on the other hand, does not have
    > > much to celebrate about after sixty years. Of course, being one of the
    > > most resilient people in the world, we will celebrate nonetheless and
    > > hope for the best for our nation. Celebrating sixty years of
    > > existence, both countries should condemn the ceremony at Wagah,
    > > especially since it is nothing but a moneymaking tactic. Instead, both
    > > countries should learn a thing or two from each other and progress
    > > harmoniously toward another sixty years.

  23. IRFAN (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 6:36 am

    pakistan needs to incorporate and follow George Washington’s laws in its constitution. Legalizing militias.

  24. .!. (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 7:12 am


    why sonia gandhi cudnt become prime minister of INDIA,

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