Value of an ordinary man’s life

Fellow Adnan shares a BBC article that has some questions BB (or gov.) would like to answer. Adding my own list here are more. Be it politicians,media,gov no one seem to care for the ordinary man :

– While PPP leadership was keen to appear on TV & in Gaiebana Namaz-e-Janaza in front row for a photo, none bothered to care for unidentified bodies in Edhi home. It took them 3 days to realize 140 ordinary men died after they are done with their media-circus.
– BB has been convicted by Swiss court. Why not donate few million from her Billions to the families of the blast victims.
– The gov. knew there would be millions, knew threat before hand, why no steps were taken, all hospitals kept on high alert. 140+550 victims were thrown into 3 hospitals like empty tin canes. They deployed 20k for BB but nothing was done for ordinary man. What about the 20 (Rs. 6000/month salary) poor policemen? Why no fund/amount was announced for their families welfare?
– Our president was quick to order inquiry because he had to assure his masters in Washington his support for a thief but didn’t bothered announcing anything substantial for the victims. This would in no way lessen his Elitist club expanses.
– Why our media is wasting everyones time in purposeless arguments instead of brining out important questions. Why not it starts a campaign asking people if people want to throw out all of the current leadership, which i believe is the real case.
– While GEO,ARY & AAJ were not far behind, Dhoom channel crossed the limits & showed some horribly gore videos/images that you see in movies like HOSTEL with blood and body parts. Is our media gone nuts?
– Everyone shares the grief but what sense one see in closing down the financial capital for 3 days so those who are alive be made hostage. Even more, why forcefully close down business ( as it was done in many areas), disrupt traffic, burn property?
– Are there no alternates to mourn or grief or show sympathy than to bring life to a standstill in a city of 15 million on something one can do nothing about?
– Would helping out victims not be more wise?. What in the end those poor families got, although politicians profited from camera circus on TV?

24 Comments so far

  1. Jamal Shamsi (unregistered) on October 22nd, 2007 @ 4:08 pm

    It’s nice to see the political awareness in the country and sad to see 150 people killed just for nothing.. :(

    Here I have only ONE question..

    Musharraf faced two suicide attacks..ok
    Core commanders had suicide attacks.. ok
    and now BB had this suicide attack…

    Please ask YOURSELF

    Why All these suicide Bombers, having the most powerful RDX explosives and no fear for life, FAIL ???????????

    Why they don’t they really HIT the TARGET???

    Why always, ONLY innocent people, bechari public is killed????

    Why BOTH suiciders exploded far away from bullet proof truck and why BB shifted downstairs for rest at the time of explosion. who was managing these timings ??? has not suicide bombing become the easiest and most convenient way of getting your objectives…

    Everybody knows who got benefit from 9/11, from musharraf’s assassination, From this recent attack on “BB”.

    Everybody know and some has forgotten the inhuman Reconcilliation ordinance and BB got all the votes of sympathy. :)

    Who will ask for 1.5 Billion Dollar looted money of BB and 3 billion dollar looted by Zia alliance.. The Pepsi frenchise owned by Humayun Akhter in Northern Pakistan is GIFT in return of his father’s death… .and who will ask??? surely none :)

    BB ‘s definatley upto something and we shall be part of it later ahead… marzi na marzi do we have any choice????

  2. IUnknown (unregistered) on October 22nd, 2007 @ 4:29 pm

    i have more questions

    after 9/11 , why 95% of bomb blasts have been declared suicidal?

    why they had been declared suicidal , before doing ne research on them?

  3. MB (unregistered) on October 22nd, 2007 @ 4:35 pm

    Jamal you said “BB ‘s definatley upto something” and we dont know what she is upto but what the planners behind are upto, here is an answer.

    I send this to few fellows of and here it is again. A very interesting observation by Aijaz Ahmed

  4. asa (unregistered) on October 22nd, 2007 @ 4:51 pm

    please stop the blame game and the pointing of fingers.

    In the country’s 60-year dismal history, and looking at the fraud imposed on the 99.99 percent of the poor, inncocent, and hardworking people, the remaining portion (known as the hypocritical elite) can be described as follows:

    (a) everyone was part of some deal;
    (b) everyone is naked in this bathtub;
    (c) lotas are plenty for taqwa and tiharat;
    (d) too bad me and my family did not engage in more loot maar!

    Long live all!

  5. mansoor (unregistered) on October 22nd, 2007 @ 5:30 pm

    jamal bhai: to answer one of your questions, about why the blast was away from the truck as opposed to near it..

    a) it was reported the truck was outfitted with signal jammers which worked for around 20 feet of it. If the blast was detonated remotely, this could be why it didn’t work within the radius.
    b) the jaan-nisar-e-benazir & police formed a perimeter around the truck which didn’t let anyone in within that radius, after 11 hours.. i guess they (the bombers) just got tired and decided to get whatever they could..
    c) if the blast was a plot by BB herself, then maybe the plotters were waiting till she went below to detonate it.

    my two cents..

  6. Jamal Shamsi (unregistered) on October 22nd, 2007 @ 5:37 pm

    mansoor check out the linx by MB – you will find partial answer.

    besides…. Jammers was hoax or else cell phones of correspondents must have been DEAD throughout :) makes sense??? or not

    jammers cannot stop individual heading for target. :)

  7. hayat (unregistered) on October 22nd, 2007 @ 5:42 pm

    This bombings is preplanned. BB knows that by coming back to pak it will take the life of the innocent people. her own people. She’s not qualified AT ALL as a leader. Choose uncorrupted leader who fight for the people and not for their own interest.

  8. Paranoid (unregistered) on October 22nd, 2007 @ 7:01 pm

    So if the supreme court rejects both mushi’s place as president and sends BB back, still there will be a huge chance of Marshal law. :o

  9. Reality_Chk (unregistered) on October 22nd, 2007 @ 7:52 pm

    TO UPDATE JAMAL the average age of a suicide bomber is around 14 to 17 years. You can imagine what is going through his head as he approaches the target, the pounding of his heart, the high level of anxiety, these guys don’t get to re-hearse and perfect their art, they are just poor brain washed kids, be it in Palestine, Iraq or Pakistan. Its not an accurate bomb, but its very lethal one. In this case BB should be thankful to her loyal human shield and the poor police guys who did their job. Also if the truck was not armoured plated she would have been history.

    In the aftermath all this, the political parties / leaders will try to take advantage. Some including BB will try to get as much political mileage out of it as they can. Others will try to show the Govt /BB or America is responsible by churning out conspiracy theories. Some like IK would justify the attack by such sickening comments, “BB brought it on herself by dealing with Mush”. Still, others, like Qazi will choose to keep quite and silently send a deadly message.

    Meanwhile the big question mark as the author has pointed out, who will care for the injured? Who will identify the dead? For this we shouldn’t need BBC articles, just go to the hospitals and do as much as you can. I remember after the deadly September night in Hyderabad during the eighties, minutes after the marauding gun men left the streets littered with bodies, people just came out picked up the bodies and every body rushed to the hospitals, I saw a young man with blanket and a bandage in hand running on his way on foot, all the doctors were there and even the lady doctors came to work despite the fading sound of gun fire. So go do something, when you are there you will find very dedicated people doing their thing.

    As for eliminating evils like Suicide Bombings, issues like these can only be defeated by national consensus, just like all Israeli’s stood firm against Hamas. It is in our interest and nobody else’s to stay firm and let the instigators know that we will not be blackmailed, we can deal with our politicians in a much more humane way.

  10. Sufi (unregistered) on October 22nd, 2007 @ 8:45 pm

    Jammers were a hoax, everyone on the truck were able to send receive calls from their cell phones. A lot of PPP leaders gave interviews from the truck using their cell phones.

    Media has done a lot in the recent times, but I dont see investigative journalism on our tv or if there is one, its targeting issues like ‘peers’, fake business, petty criminals etc.

    How about investigative journalism about the new GHQ in Islamabad, or the awarding of billions worth of tenders to your friends by the government departments, or the failure of PIA, or the riggings in the elections.. We see none of that, we just invite politicians on tv and ask them questions and rarely get the answers. Most of the tv debates end without a conclusion.

  11. Reality_Chk (unregistered) on October 22nd, 2007 @ 8:55 pm

    Jammers dont work well under certain speed, those are designed for high speed convoys, also some of the antennas were broken by jiyalaas climbing all over them.

    I agree on this, lets bring some real issues in the election’s. lets ask our politicians, where they stand on, economy, extremism, education etc. How and what they gonna do about these key areas,

  12. Imran (unregistered) on October 22nd, 2007 @ 9:41 pm
  13. Neena (unregistered) on October 23rd, 2007 @ 12:10 am


    LOL!! at if the blast was a plot by BB herself, then maybe the plotters were waiting till she went below to detonate it.

    To All,

    Just for the sake of argument say if it was planned then PPP leadership isn’t aware of it as all the leaders were remained only BB went inside, that’s sounds far fetched, even IF they planted it then it should have happened after the glorious speech. You guys too believed they ain’t stupid or anything.

    You guys are missing one crucial point PPP’s security guards caught the guy who was throwing the hand grenade that’s why blast didn’t reach the truck.

    One more thing some of us are pretending that Pakistan is a calm country with no links to violence and everyone is so enlightened that they don’t feel threatened by a secular woman leader who is backed by the west. Yeah right.

    Someone named Omer has summed up the real problem very beautifully at Pakistaniat. I’m copying his comment here.

    To blame Benazir for the incident falls in the category of “blaming the victim”. Are we now saying that if a popular leader should gather a large crowd in Pakistan and the nihilists and their manipulators bomb them, then it’s not the nihilists but the victims who are to blame? Whether Benazir was moving too slow or too fast is besides the point. She was back in her own country. Hundreds of thousands of people had come to welcome her…and this was no rent-a-crowd. Certainly, money must have been spent to bring them there, but their enthusiasm and love for the Bhutto name was obvious. People were dancing in the streets and music and songs were being played instead of bullets and bombs and its a terrible travesty to blame them or their leaders for this massacre.

    The issue of security is not one of “foolproof” cordons and other such excuses. People forget that in a functional state, the major deterrent to such actions is the fact that no violent organizations can exist, plan and attack without exciting the interest of law-enforcement; if they do attack, they are vigorously pursued and dealt with and finally, they are not being supported and manipulated by elements of the state itself. In Pakistan, such organizations were encouraged and abetted by the “forward thinking” army. For the last 6 years, they have been officially banned, but no doubt has been left about the fact that this “ban” is ambiguous and loaded with exceptions and loopholes. Doubts about the sincerity of senior members of the intelligence agencies are widespread. In this atmosphere, attacks are easily assumed to have the blessings of one or the other faction in the power structure. There is little or no trust and little chance that the whole story will ever be known.

    A good start would be to compare the situation in India. The various terrorist groups frequently articulate real grievances and have real support among some people. The intelligence agencies and security services in India are more unwieldy and decrepit than their Pakistani counterparts and are probably equally corrupt in terms of individual corruption. But there is no doubt about the state’s DESIRE to stop terrorists from various jihadi and separatist groups. That simple “unity of purpose” leads to the fact that a significant proportion of outrages is actually investigated and many perpetrators are actually caught. The system is very rickety, almost pre-industrial and highly inefficient and certainly cannot stop all outrages but it still delivers better results than the Pakistani system. In spite of years of terrorism and poor policing, politicians in India can still hold rallies and people can still gather in large numbers without “foolproof security”……Compare that to Pakistan, where the sitting government (in the form of Sheikh Rashid) is saying it probably cannot afford a true election campaign because large crowds are easy targets? (being a pessimist, I have to add that if things fall apart further in Pakistan, they will no doubt get worse in India as well, so I wouldn’t count my chickens yet if I were Indian).

    Benazir is not the issue. The destruction of state authority and legitimacy and its replacement by a shadow military state which is not under the control of even its own chief is the real issue..

  14. silver (unregistered) on October 23rd, 2007 @ 12:29 am

    “To blame Benazir for the incident falls in the category of “blaming the victim”” – and they defend

    It is ironic that the elite of the nation, who take pride in themselves for their rational thought process and look down upon the mullahs for their extremism, say such a thing when odds are not in favor of this statement.

    I suggest that you start reading up and find answers rather than believing what your beloved BB tells you. Even MQM supporters aren’t that stubborn (well we know about them).

    Can you tell me why BB has been repeatedly asserting suicide bombings even when there is little or no evidence? her security advisor ruled out that possiblity.

    I leave you think over that, lets help you get started.

  15. Neena (unregistered) on October 23rd, 2007 @ 12:36 am

    Can you tell me why BB has been repeatedly asserting suicide bombings even when there is little or no evidence? her security advisor ruled out that possiblity.

    Read this

  16. Neena (unregistered) on October 23rd, 2007 @ 12:39 am

    Any news about Police men who died in the line of duty as I hear they are pretty apprehensive about their life Insurance.\10\20\story_20-10-2007_pg12_4

  17. Reality_Chk (unregistered) on October 23rd, 2007 @ 1:22 am

    Its the conspiracy teorists led by Shahid Masood who want to take focus away from the fact that it was a suicide attack and entangle people into hiw heavy the jacket was, why did the attacker didnt reach the truck and so on….. This is a typical ploy, the aim is to divert the attention from the real issue and cover up their chaheetaas, and we know who they are.

  18. Straight Talker (unregistered) on October 23rd, 2007 @ 2:46 am

    Q: Value of an ordinary man’s life??

    A: What’s ordinary man? They don’t know.

    Wake up Paksitan!

  19. wasiq (unregistered) on October 23rd, 2007 @ 5:58 am

    no comments or feedback from urooj this is strange….did she or did she not survive the blast…..?

    And who knows I might feel better yeah
    If I don’t try and I don’t hope

  20. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on October 23rd, 2007 @ 11:36 am

    @Silver: Ironically B.B and her Pals are denying any possibility of Suicide bombings or involvement of Talibans. Even Govt keep coming up different statements every day to hide the truth because blaming suicide bombing is as easy as Yanks blame Osama for everything in US. So far they have not come up with any concrete and technical reason to prove it a Suicide bomb while the bomb was planted in a car. Govt most prolly following the formula which I mentioned here.


    Someone should tell govt fanatics that Jhoot k paoun nahi hotay

  21. HITMAN (unregistered) on October 23rd, 2007 @ 11:59 am

    Shahid Masood pointed in right direction when he asked the concerned person in the end ( I m foreggting his name, he was DIG I guess) that “so the only thing u r insisting that this is a suicde bombing is because that no crater was formed on ground?” & the person answered yes to it. As far as your comments about average age of 14-17, does the head of the “said” suicide bomber looks to u like a 14-17 y/o guy?.

    P.S.: Please dont compare suicide bombers of Palestine with those of Pakistan. Suicide bombing is clearly understandable in the former case as those ppl has no option left. while the later should be condemned at any cost.

  22. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on October 23rd, 2007 @ 1:49 pm

    @Hitman: His name is Abdul Mohataram.

  23. sarfaraz (unregistered) on October 23rd, 2007 @ 5:18 pm
  24. wasiq (unregistered) on October 24th, 2007 @ 8:51 am

    praiseth the lord

    thanks jani for the replay….

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