TV Channels still Off Air
While browsing i came across this Banana Republic Definition :-
In modern usage the term has come to be used to describe a generally unstable or “backward” dictatorial regime, especially one where elections are often fraudulent and corruption is rife. By extension, the word is occasionally applied to governments where a strong leader hands out appointments and advantages to friends and supporters, without much consideration for the law. A banana republic can also be used to describe a country where a large part of its economy and politics are controlled by foreign powers or even corporations. Wikipedia
How perfectly this para depicts our country. I woke up early morning, went to TV lounge , turn on TV and found it dumb & dead again. No channels. Its indeed a question to ponder how much we are a laughing stock for the rest of the world which is planning for MARS in 2025. Media is supposed to be the only hope people have to reach out to truth in difficult times but being unique our government blocked tools of news/information not allowing people to know whats happening around. We the unfortunates still search for the basic norms of democracy others got hundred years back. The outside worlds knows whats going in our country & we are blind about events around, a true sign of Banana country. Don’t be amazed if your cellular connection of internet connection goes dead too. In last thousand years if there is anything that didn’t change its a tyrants way of response in failure. Even chimpanzees evolved but our (or a dictator for that matter) Generals in GHQ wont. The lust for power is too overwhelming. Its probably is the price of pampering the gatekeepers in 1965. This government has weapons of media destruction in hand. I am not sure if there is a technical way to bypass a government like Burma or Pakistan. Is mobile TV a hope ?
YAAAWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNN!!
http://boards.msn.com/UKNewsboards/thread.aspx?threadid=446297&boardsparam=Page%3D4
look wat english are saying
it was funny to when my relatives in pakistan were calling and asking me in Dubai for updates on the latest situation in pakistan!:)
Any YAWWWNNNs will turn to an OUCH pretty soon. Then every one will repent they did not do anything earlier.
Salute to Sind’s judges. Out of 27, 23 judges say NO to Musharraf.
Punjab ne asusual dhoka dia. 17 judges so far got agreed to say YES to the president.
Shabash Sind!!
Now I know why they say “The revolution will not be televised”
Welcome to 1st Kingdom of King Mushy …………………
Well to tell you people , we shouldnt be worried about this political drama cause u know every now and then things go wild so nothing new , be Good to your master who is “Mushi” ofcourse and dont go against him and you will be out of Trouble..
Positive Sides of Marshal Law
Well atleast KMB authors now know how it feels to get ones comments deleted by a Nazi
WE CAN’T ALLOW THE ARMY TO ENSLAVE US! A MASS UPRISING IS NEEDED. THE ARMY SHOULD BE OUR SERVENTS, NOT MASTERS. I URGE ALL PAKISTANIS TO RESIST IN ANY WAY THEY CAN.
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD!
JIYAY MUSHARRAF!
so if freedom of press is absolute, why does this mom-and-pop blog have a comment policy? similarly if people can say what they want in the u.s. or uk, are any of you willing to stand in the middle of times or trafalger square and say few words in favour of bin laden?
our tv channels had turned into a joke turning murderers like ghazi into a hero and broadcasting live images of dead bodies including severed heads. no country on earth allows this kind of nonsense. and our courts instead of providing cover to law enforcement agencies, have released lal masjid terrorists who murdered pakistani sipahis in live tv.
as an expat i welcome strong action by government against terrorists. if pakistanis suicide bombers were exloding themselves in london or ny or weekly as as been in the case of pak, all pakistani expats would be rounded up and sent back home. we are dealing with serious crises which calls for difficult measures. i am glad govt is not shirking from its task.
Nawaz isn’t allowed to return. Iftikhar Chaudhry, Aitzaz Ahsan, Imran Khan, and Javed Hashmi (acting president of PML) all are being arrested and they all happen to be from Punjab. I see a trend Chaudries are getting cold feet.
PS. Please no Sindh or Punjab fight.
I agree with Faisal.. .or we could ask our beloved politicians who have fled to foreign countries for financial aids.. which they have stored to aid us in cases like this:)… grow up people.. while our media has been termed free.. it isnt mature enough and is totally thali ka began.. here in france. there was a 2 page article in newspapers when BB came to pakistan.. outlining her heroism .. sheesh.. too bad they didnt posted that all our politicans are corrupt and need a danda :). and top of that.. i loved the part of the American constitution quoted by the President..
wonder what india is doing abt all this? im sure they dont like whats going on..
http://express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1100292608&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20071104
I got an SMS. One can LISTEN ary one world transmission by calling on following number: 021-1111000162
p.s: can you guys pls stop singing same beysura raag about bB and NS’ corruption? Army have made more money in last 8 years than BB or NS did in their two tenures. So pls bring something new.
You are dead right Adnan.
ARMY is making billions using USA aid (for War on Terror) for its own luxuries. Everone knows Admiral Masoor Ul Haq’s case. And GOD knows how many Generals have their tummies filled with public money.
Interestingly these politicians, 60-70% of them are ARMY children, relatives and people brought into and helped by ISI.
But people here keep BS about Nawaz and BB
Imran Khan & Hameed Gul are under house arrest - since 1500 PST
to expect pakistan’s “free” electronic media to behave with a measure of responsibility and maturity at this stage is naive to say the least: for one thing, the phenomenon of free electronic media is so very new in pakistan. one precondition for attaining maturity is the passage of time. i agree, however, that the handling by the media of many issues has been unfortunate.
just as we must allow democracy to mature with the passage of time (and without the usurping of power by self-styled military saviours riding white chargers and brandishing righteous (holy or unholy) swords in order to fulfil their own agendas) so too must a free media be allowed to learn from its mistakes. so too must we insist on educating the people so that they may in the future be a little less susceptible to the jingoistic rhetoric of the government, or the opposition, or the media.
in a fairy-tale world, uncle mushy would turn out to have had nothing but the well-being of the nation at heart, and all this rigmarole would be part of his grand design for the betterment of pakistan. (why do i doubt the possibility of that?)
in the real world, a free media is essential to ensuring at least some measure of accountability. right now one man can do as he pleases. and is doing so.
maybe that is what we, the bai-ghairat avaam, deserves.
ironically unified Punjab of subcontinent was always a turncoat, since before 1857 to date.
Army have made more money in last 8 years than BB or NS did in their two tenures.
Right on Adnan.
here we are, still blaming each other, still pointing fingers at each other, still fingering each other… you’re a bastard, she’s something that sounds like witch, he’s something that rhymes with runt, and i, yes I, I, I am good, and honest, and pure of heart, and noble of spirit. if only everyone were like me what a great country we’d be. hee hee hee.
call me stupid, but perhaps it’s time to set aside our religious, sectarian, provinicalistic (and provincial) attitudes and come together for once in our nation’s god-damned lifetime.
Any news about the faith of these private Channel employess, what will happen to their livlihood?
here we are, still blaming each other, still pointing fingers at each other, still fingering each other… you’re a bastard, she’s something that sounds like witch, he’s something that rhymes with runt, and i, yes I, I, I am good, and honest, and pure of heart, and noble of spirit. if only everyone were like me what a great country we’d be. hee hee hee.
call me stupid, but perhaps it’s time to set aside our religious, sectarian, provinicalistic (and provincial) attitudes and come together for once in our nation’s god-damned lifetime.
How many channels were there in 1999 , care to tell me please. The Pakistani media is totally irresponsible, they portray extremists as martyrs. Not on any tv channel, I have seen dead bodies with closeup but Pakistani channels show dead bodies after bomb blasts to gain viewer ship.It is so sick. Pakistanis believe in sensationalism so is their media. They would just make things bad. TV channels have been doing parody of Mush but he never stopped them. I watched few times Pakistani channels and I just said 4 words for them. Every one comes on air with own agenda and say stupid things w/o any proof for e.g Shahid Masood, that guy thinks every thing is wrong, he knows that there is no one who is going to prosecute him so he could say what ever he wants. Totally sick attitude. You people deserve bomb blast and suicidal attacks, you really deserve it.
you can listen geo news on http://www.alqamar.org look for the link within news headlines or watch geo news using http://www.pakistanvision.com
Actually its a martial law coz the situation seems like that. Mushi also indicate abt few channels who are responsible for the emergency and then he order to off air abt 45 channels. Thx god that internet and yes blogs are working. so atleast we are in touch with international media bcoz i dont think that any1 watns to get inform from PTV
Punjab hamesha power main rehnay kay liye emaan bech deta hay. heaps of examples to support my word, only the recent one here
— More judges taking oath under PCO in Punjab Highcourt. shame on you all.
OWK
So how does that irresponsibility by media justify what the gov. is doing ??
And if its all about listing irresponsibility, i request you to list down few/some “RESPONSIBLE ACTS” by gov. as the contrary would be huge task.
Australian media calling it Martial Law and not Emergency LOL. Shahid Masood rightly said today on Geo” Khurd ka nam Junoo rakh diya Junno ka kurd , Jo chahay app ka Husnay karishma saaz karay”.
haha this shahid masood guy is such a drama king. He’s made millions just because of sansationalizing everything. The guy’s salary is 22 laks a month and he gets it for speaking the way he does. And we, the innocent (read stupid) Pakistanis believe such drama kings (another example Altaf hussain).
@ OWK you raised a valid point. The media has been reporting very irresponsibly. No where have i seen a suicide bomber’s head being shown on TV. That was the day i just couldn’t believe my eyes. There are children watching TV who could be badly affected by it. Plus, there was no mention of a warning like these images may be disturbing for some people etc. Highly irresponsible of the Pakistani media, they can go to any extent to make money and still come out as the honest and loyal ones.
The differnce in BB / NS corruption and the ones before and after them is that both of these leaders drove the country into bankruptsy, they were not going after plot or permit, they went after the goose and emptied the vaults.
Same is the case with media and lawyers, if they have held their horses for a few months then we would have elections and and things would have move forward. All this weakening of Mushrraf has strengthened the extremists who have got due projection and air time.
As I have said earlier the real test would be in next few days, the actions of this administration will determine whether this is an exercise in personal survival or something substantial. Constitutional or un constitutional? doesnt matter.
like i said, maybe this is what we, the bai-ghairat avaam, deserve.
Editorial, The News, Nov 4
Black Saturday
Sunday, November 04, 2007
November 3 will go down as another dark day in Pakistan’s political and constitutional history. It can be safely said that this is one of General Pervez Musharraf’s gravest errors of judgment, and a sorry indication that nothing has been learnt from the mistakes of the past. The imposition of emergency rule and suspension of the 1973 Constitution announced on Saturday is only going to destroy the very institutions that this country crucially needs for evolving into a true democracy, particularly the judiciary, media and parliament. It will further fracture an already weakened federation, alienate those who have grievances against the centre, such as the Tribal Areas and Balochistan, and push whatever little credibility the government had down a very deep abyss. Such a draconian step will also have little effect on our ability to fight terrorism and extremism. It would be fair to assume that the emergency has been imposed only to target two institutions: the judiciary and the media but it may well have poisonous effects on another: i.e. parliament. Those in the ruling PML-Q will be foolish not to realise that the legislative branch of government has received a death blow as well since the imposition has come from an army general.
The fact that the official statement carrying the emergency announcement used ‘army chief’ rather than president to refer to the authority behind the promulgation is significant as well indicating that perhaps what we have on our hands is a de facto martial law — one in which the assemblies will function but only to give the impression that democracy has not been hampered in any manner. Furthermore, the timing of the proclamation, a few days before an expected judgment on a case that could have potentially declared the president’s re-election null and void, is such that very few people in this country, or overseas for that matter, will buy the argument that it has been imposed to arrest the deteriorating law and order situation and to allow the government to focus on fighting extremism and militancy. It will be difficult to remove public doubts that it has only been imposed to target a superior judiciary that has finally found some spine and is carrying out its constitutional role of acting as a watchdog on the executive, which in Pakistan’s case was often overstepping its constitutionally-defined authority. As for the media, the fact that private television channels were blacked out for the better part of Saturday is a grim indication of the government’s intentions. However, here too, such bans are essentially counter-productive and will be seen by ordinary Pakistanis as a desperate act of a regime bent on shielding itself from criticism.
Meanwhile, the Chief Justice of Pakistan has been informed that his services were no longer required. In any case, the promulgation of a provisional constitutional order would mean that most of the judges of the Supreme Court who had in recent weeks taken a brave and defiant stand against the government and the military would be pushed aside and not be invited to take a fresh oath; many would in all probability decline such an offer. As news of the imposition of emergency spread, eight members of the Supreme Court defiantly struck down the proclamation, which could well trigger off a new stand-off. The future is not looking good — not least because the president’s move is bound to have massive repercussions and a severe response from all segments of civil society. Such acts are indefensible at any time, more so in this day and age.
Editorial, The News, Nov 4
Black Saturday
Sunday, November 04, 2007
November 3 will go down as another dark day in Pakistan’s political and constitutional history. It can be safely said that this is one of General Pervez Musharraf’s gravest errors of judgment, and a sorry indication that nothing has been learnt from the mistakes of the past. The imposition of emergency rule and suspension of the 1973 Constitution announced on Saturday is only going to destroy the very institutions that this country crucially needs for evolving into a true democracy, particularly the judiciary, media and parliament. It will further fracture an already weakened federation, alienate those who have grievances against the centre, such as the Tribal Areas and Balochistan, and push whatever little credibility the government had down a very deep abyss. Such a draconian step will also have little effect on our ability to fight terrorism and extremism. It would be fair to assume that the emergency has been imposed only to target two institutions: the judiciary and the media but it may well have poisonous effects on another: i.e. parliament. Those in the ruling PML-Q will be foolish not to realise that the legislative branch of government has received a death blow as well since the imposition has come from an army general.
The fact that the official statement carrying the emergency announcement used ‘army chief’ rather than president to refer to the authority behind the promulgation is significant as well indicating that perhaps what we have on our hands is a de facto martial law — one in which the assemblies will function but only to give the impression that democracy has not been hampered in any manner. Furthermore, the timing of the proclamation, a few days before an expected judgment on a case that could have potentially declared the president’s re-election null and void, is such that very few people in this country, or overseas for that matter, will buy the argument that it has been imposed to arrest the deteriorating law and order situation and to allow the government to focus on fighting extremism and militancy. It will be difficult to remove public doubts that it has only been imposed to target a superior judiciary that has finally found some spine and is carrying out its constitutional role of acting as a watchdog on the executive, which in Pakistan’s case was often overstepping its constitutionally-defined authority. As for the media, the fact that private television channels were blacked out for the better part of Saturday is a grim indication of the government’s intentions. However, here too, such bans are essentially counter-productive and will be seen by ordinary Pakistanis as a desperate act of a regime bent on shielding itself from criticism.
Meanwhile, the Chief Justice of Pakistan has been informed that his services were no longer required. In any case, the promulgation of a provisional constitutional order would mean that most of the judges of the Supreme Court who had in recent weeks taken a brave and defiant stand against the government and the military would be pushed aside and not be invited to take a fresh oath; many would in all probability decline such an offer. As news of the imposition of emergency spread, eight members of the Supreme Court defiantly struck down the proclamation, which could well trigger off a new stand-off. The future is not looking good — not least because the president’s move is bound to have massive repercussions and a severe response from all segments of civil society. Such acts are indefensible at any time, more so in this day and age.
The ransom exchange deal has been finalised -
the 200+ soldiers detained by the Desi Taliban in Tribal belt will be released sometime Monday - in exchange of 25 Mujhideen (militants) - ONE of them was under term of 24 years since 17 years, and 7 more years were left before legal release.
Bravo - ! 200+ who surrendered peacefully,
Cheers to those who played the game of patience and nerve wrecking twisters and succeeded.
Allah be praised, Allah SAVE PAKISTAN… !
its ironic really.. indian channels are on air on two different cable services i subscribe to, and the operators say that rangers personnel have strictly ordered them to keep pakistani chans off air until further orders..
i think i am living in a cave where i will light fire by striking stones and eat leaves from the trees ….. is this 21st century?
@Reality_Check
…really like what you wrote. This who discussion has been really good. People presenting both sides, and overall, not too mch fighting or name calling. I hope this maintains and we all discuss this stuff together, and try to understand each other’s point of view.
Either way, this month is bound to be very interesting. Lets see what Musharaf is trying to do, and what he can achieve. I hope for the best, I personally have a good feeling about this…as long as he doesnt get killed or something.
I am realizing how mush govt or any dictatorship has been successful in Pakistan. They followed what their Papa British told them before leaving Subcontinent that is ,’Divide and Rule’. Indians had brains so they didn’t listen this and they kept Army aside, result is infront of us.
Those who are despised by us are extremist no matter same act is done by our allies as well. If other side is extremist then Mush regime is not less facist. The only difference is that otherwise is in UNiform and clean shaved. If those tribes are extremist then mush and pro-Mush are not loyal either. if Godforbid Pakistan suffers, all preachers would rather bury their heads in local pubs or even they will call themselves INDIANS so that they don’t feel embarrassment. When there is such kind of mentality, I wonder why one can getrid of Military or seasonal politicians? As I read in Quran once that God also don’t help those nations who are not willing to change themselves.
Expats, who have been lecturing here and there, I request them to contribute positively. Sitting thousands of miles away and being “Moo ka Commando” is easy thing. If you think others within Pakistan are jahil and ignorant, come back to Pakistan and face the heat. If can’t then don’t act like a coward food and keep lecturing us.
Dont Worry no sky will fall down, certain politicians will have a tough time because they can no longer hog the courts or go to media studios and do all their politics from there.
If any leader is serious about averting this situation then he / she will have to go to the people bring them out on the streets to propell a change. If they cant do that, then its better to sit at home and brood over their misfortunes like Bahadur Shah Zafar.
BTW BB, Fazlul Rehman, Qazi Hussain and othe PML leaders are all free, and they have all given statements to the press. As for Altaf / MQM they are allies of Musharraf just like Sheikh Rasheed and others, so why complain about them there is no contradiction in there stand, if some body wants to effect a change its the best time prove their mettle, otherwise keep quiet…Shhhhhhhh
Speaking of tribes, history is witnessed that no ruler was able to hold for longer time over them. When Alexender(Iskandar) couldn’t survive, your Uncle sam faced the defeat then how do you expect your Army to defeat them? living on fools paradise eh? Infact I read it few days back on BBC:
tinyurl.com/27vonz
I surrendered because I realised that I was only fighting fellow Muslims,” said Shafiullah, a soldier from Dargai area.
Read that? These are soldiers not madrassah kids who were blamed to kill their own people in Afghanistan. These army men were not sent by Jehadists, they rather sent by fascists within govt.
Keeping this trend, I am afraid that our jawans who were recruited to fight India are being used to kill their own men, the men whose ancestors defeated US ,USSR and Alexander in past.
Keep dreaming as dreaming doesn’t cost a penny.
Ironically Altaf bai seems agreed with Emergency. Ek dictator ney paida kia, doosra paal raha hay. Interesting. :-)
These are the same tribes that looted Srinagar and let the indian army sneak in. They have neve called themselves Pakistani, the term is Azaad Afghan Qabail. I have no problem with that too. The problem is that if the writ of the govt of Pakistan cannot be established in their area, then also these mad folks cant be allowed to force their writ on the people of Pakistan, its as simple as that. They want to take all the material advantages that come with association with Pakistan, including smuggling of arms, drugs, wheat and giving refuge to criminals/ terrorists, but will not accept any laws or writ. Either they should declare an independent state and be held responsible for happenings in their area or give up their current priviliged status.
Otherwise this never ending process of Jirgaa, extorting money then convening another jirgaa for extorting more money will never end.
I blv this time they are all set for some real drumming from both sides of the border. lets see what happens, things will not take long to un-ravel.
ppl who have been accepting MUSH just because he’s inevitable. I remember same talks I used to hear about Zia and people(politicians and his chamchay) used to say same about him but world doesn’t rotate around a single person my friends. Zia got exploded, world didn’t stop breathing. Similarly if Mush is killed by his peers(US etc) in future then it doesn’t mean Pakistan will be in danger. Come out of delusion and fear. I am sure there will be some good alternative after Him.
Editorial, The News, November 5, 2007
Age of darkness
With the flickering off screens of private media channels, as a state of emergency, which in effect is a euphemism for martial law, was imposed on Saturday, Pakistan entered a new age of darkness. The two institutions, the judiciary and the media, which in recent months have given people most cause for cheer, have been the most severely targeted in President Musharraf’s late night speech, following the issuing of the PCO. As for the claim that the federal and provincial assemblies will continue to function, this in effect means little as in the absence of an operative constitution, these institutions have no meaningful status.
As had been predicted in the days of speculation that led to the emergency, it is the actions of the judiciary that have come under the severest attack and been used in an attempt to justify the shoving aside what remains of Pakistan’s much tampered with and tattered constitution. Whereas critics other than Musharraf have in the past months expressed some dismay over the volume of cases taken up by the apex court, including hundreds that have attracted suo motu attention, this, more than anything else, shows up the failures of the system of justice delivery at the lower levels. For anyone genuinely interested in putting Pakistan, and its people, first, the measures that needed to be taken was a resolving of the situation where people were denied justice for years due to flaws in the working of district courts. Whereas the wisdom of the Supreme Court in taking on such a vast volume of work raised questions, the issues of ordinary people can only be aggravated by removing the one forum they had used to seek redress from grievance.
And indeed, it must be noted that the other accusations against the court - of interfering in the war on terror, weakening thegovernment’s writ or humiliating and demoralizing government officials - also, more than anything else, expose the weaknesses of the system. From the actions of the court a great deal could have been learned about the working of police, the intelligence services and the bureaucracy. Slip-shod investigative work, that leaves open gaping legal loopholes, is no way to win the war on terror. Adopting a policy of secrecy in this struggle, or indulging in ‘abducting’ suspects, cannot help either. The war on terror must be won not only on the ground - through armed action and the imprisonment of those found guilty - but also in the minds of people. And this can happen only when there is transparency, when courts and people can be informed of crimes committed by alleged terrorists and government functionaries are able to give answers about the wrongs they have committed and how these have, under the law, been dealt with.
The war against militants is now too big to be fought behind closed doors. The full facts about it, and those behind it, need to be made known and not papered over. And, speaking of hiding the truth, while the sudden silencing of private electronic media channels may have brought some immediaterelief to government, in the longer term it will obviously cause more harm than good. For one, as the channels which had made their way into thousands of living rooms over the past five years have vanished, so has the fragile façade of democracy a largely authoritarian regime had tried to build. The free media channels had also provided a vital outlet for dissent, and with this platform now severely curtailed, the rage that bubbles just beneath the surface in a country where there are so many frustrations and so few political options, may well boilover in more dangerous form. And of course, the blacking out of the channels and the tough restrictions that effectively prevent the media from criticizing the head of state, the judiciary or the military mean that, once more, as in the past, people are to be denied their basic right to know. Indeed, by undoing, with one thoughtless stroke, its own policy in permitting free media channels to operate, the government has removed from its credit list something that had counted as a significant achievement, and replaced it with an ominous black mark.
The full consequences of the new situation Pakistan has been plunged into are still to be seen. But they cannot be positive. As such, in the current scenario, one can only hope the present phase is kept as short as possible and full constitutional rule restored before the passage of too many weeks or months of darkness.
Offcourse Media is not Saint neither we should expect Media 100% professional. Poo/OWK, you didn’t get job at APPLE next day when you came in this world. Did you? You sure would have done stupid and irresponsible things in your childhood. Jus ask your parents and they would tell you. Media had go t freedom after 60 years. Consider our media a person who was prisoned in a jungle for decades, when such person is freed then immature activities are quite natural. Give some space to media. They will learn with passage of time. Your US media which is free from decades doesn’t sound responsible either. Thing is we have been living behind the thick layer of ignorance. We don’t like changes. When someone tries to strike our ideology, we starts reacting negatively. Poor attitude. I used to consider you very wise but I think I was wrong.
dear authors and commentors , we should not curse Mushraf for the emergency or blocking the tv channels or restricting the freedom of press after all these principles are also being practise resularly on our very own KARACHI METRO BLOGGING from the last few weeks some people are also doing the same thing on KMB that if they dont like the comment of any one about there post or if some one disagrees with them than insted of defending there post and doing a healthy debate the author simply deletes the post , come on you KMBers hypocriates grow up , if you are doing the same thing than why curse Musharaf
@Adnan “Consider our media a person”. I am not against giving media some space and time to get matured but here the problem is that the views expressed by this “person” of yours are directly beamed into thousands of homes in Pakistan. I agree with you that the media may learn with the passage of time but what will they pass on to this nation during that learning phase. By igniting emotions and spreading confusions (such as roads of Karachi are deserted) is certainly not doing any good to the country.
The fact that our media has been blocked, media tht expresses our freedom of speech as well as expression, makes me feel like I’m slowly suffocating. People I know online have such a bad view of us, a friend frantically emailed me asking where I was after the suicide bombings, then on the emergency, she freaked out again cause she read something about civil war within Pakistan somewhere.
I am writing this comment, because this is my contribution.
To my country, to the state it is in.
This comment is my voice.
Should i worry if it will be heard?
I am not even expecting a response on it…
if at all…then…
What can a post do anyway?
So..then….Is this A contribution? or a mere satisfaction to the pakistani in me!
ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS….
yeaa..i need to DO something about it…
but wat can i do…
i aint ne offspring of a political leader..
i dont even read the newspaper…except on sunday!
I follow news …. I LISTEN and…WATCH!
and… i sometimes respond…in ways of (sometimes heated) discussions with fellow mates….They just start…and then they just end…the dialogue is there….
it stays in the mind…
but that is it…
words….that fade into thoughts….multiply into more thoughts…come out as more words…
but the cycle goes on..in a circle…
the circle has no end….
IT HAS TO END!
i need to contribute….there would be something that i can do….
and…so i give my life….
BLAST!!!!!!
im sorry but i dont agree a country where people arent educated enough to vote for the right person, shud even figh for democracy.. pakistan has done better in yeras of military… dat does not mean musharraf is successful.. but by the same token, does not mean that he was not good enough…..with current situation emergency was maybe a good idea.. but by shutting down news channel is not acceptable…but what is the solution……..to all this… dats shud be are concern rather than just being part of the balme game… muslims in history have ruled over world fors years… n very SUCCESSFULLY.. at the time of calphs… so when we already have brilliant example of HAZRAT UMER’s regime…..heres our solution…
History is definately a tool that can be used to learn from. But we need to make our own history. World has glorious examples, from Aung San Suu Kyi in Mynamar, Nelson Mandela in South Africa. We had Quaid-e-Azam who has never been adequately represented in history.
But it is difficult to make a choice. To stand up and defend your cause. Silent protests lead to incarceration. Who will make that choice?
and has exposed the President’s autocratic attitude..our history has shown us nothing but a mob who takes over our country n’ uses the ’suit yourself’ strategy and bends and amends all laws, regulations and if there are any ordinary standards of decency and our current leadership has turned out to be no better than the previous ones n’ infact have given us a whole set of new The situation in our conutry seems sad.The all time ‘Law of the jungle’ has prevailed once again….the might is right thoery just seems to work for everyone especially for our President n’ the current leadership…he just seems to have crushed any opposition(judiciary,media, political parties)just cuz he has the stick in his hands right now..its just like a 2nd coup…the closure of all news channels is too extreme an act of dictatorship n’ unacceptable standards of shameless acts such as overpowering,bulldozing any righteous opposition n’ almost the only medium through which the population was being able to see and scrutinize the leadership n’its policies and practices(the news channels)…there seems no end to all this ‘all of them are same’..power hungry and wiht no morals or character…
I would advise my friend Anosh Khan who seems to be givin her life as a contribution which im sure will go in vain, that not to go to such an extent for it wont make a difference n’ if u reall wanna blast then go blast amongst the legislators n’ this political system to totally wipe the current politics out n make a fresh start…
The situation in our conutry seems sad.The all time ‘Law of the jungle’ has prevailed once again….the might is right thoery just seems to work for everyone especially for our President n’ the current leadership…he just seems to have crushed any opposition(judiciary,media, political parties)just cuz he has the stick in his hands right now..its just like a 2nd coup…the closure of all news channels is too extreme an act of dictatorship n’ unacceptable and has exposed the President’s autocratic attitude..our history has shown us nothing but a mob who takes over our country n’ uses the ’suit yourself’ strategy and bends and amends all laws, regulations and if there are any ordinary standards of decency and our current leadership has turned out to be no better than the previous ones n’ infact have given us a whole new set of standards of shameless acts such as overpowering,bulldozing any righteous opposition n’ almost the only medium through which the population was being able to see and scrutinize the leadership n’its policies and practices(the news channels)…there seems no end to all this ‘all of them are same’..power hungry and wiht no morals or character…
I would advise my friend Anosh Khan who seems to be givin her life as a contribution which im sure will go in vain, that not to go to such an extent for it wont make a difference n’ if u reall wanna blast then go blast amongst the legislators n’ this political system to totally wipe the current politics out n make a fresh start…
P.S plz excuse the formatting errrors in the previous post
Yesterday, and even day before yesterday upon a heated discussion on the politics of Pakistan with two different friends, I realized two things;
No.1. We, as humans are incapable of listening and adjusting to other people’s point of views. Its difficult to accept that the other person, just might be right
No.2. Perhaps, ignorance is a bliss sometimes.
Yes, I might sound harsh, unreasonable, silly and indifferent- but thats what the Eight years of Musharraf RULE has done to me.
As MB mentioned, that it should not come as a surprise to us- if our access to the internet and Mobile is also abandoned- I absolutely agree. perhaps, I am surprised- that how come Musharraf can be so lenient?
Well, the Emergency being imposed only on the areas- that DIRECTLY effect his SEAT (Authority- and not even his popularity) answer my query.
Judiciary kicked off. TV channels off Air.
I just found out from a friend, that she actually thought that if the TV channels are off air- it also means they are not even functioning right now.
Wrong. I am kinda “Blessed” to have dish antenna receiver with me apart from the Cable TV channels- where SOME of the Private News Channels seem to do their job pretty well..
The Dish Antennas sellers- seem to be benefited the most at present- with the Dish Antenna receiver prices reaching the sky! At present its no less than 1.5 to 2 lakhs! Interestingly, the Govt. has also imposed a ban to sell them, and announced that anyone caught selling them will have to pay a heavy penalty.
While watching those channels.. the confusion- why the President has not allowed to access them- is also cleared.
I see, the Police/Rangers do their job conveniently by tracking down people and house arresting others which might be trying to make a revolution. Obviously, everything is quite easy for them now- as the 1973 Constitution has been abandoned for good. I was surprised to see on Geo , when a clipping just bombarded my screen telling me that with the Constitution being not active anymore- the Govt. has the convenience to take over ANYBODY’S property anytime, arrest without warrant, nobody can be set free on Bale, in short - I am deprived of my basic civil rights as a free citizen of Pakistan.
Its time for us to question- how FREE are we? We cannot just let anyone and anybody take over our home like this. We need to wakeup as a Nation!
Bismillah Ar Rahman Ar Raheem
Assalaam O Alaikum
“The situation in our country is worth discussing, and thats ONLY what its worth doing.”
This statements not made by our words anywhere, but are let off LOUD enough by our actions.
How many of us really want to Leave our Luxurious lives and REALLY devote our resources, time and health to traverse in the right direction and who will pick that direction for us. Almost all the posts, mentioned our problems no one has yet proposed a solution.
I see the ONLY solution to this is to be true to yourself. Be true to what you say, n thats what Islam teaches us to do. 1 solution did catch my eye in the earlier posts, that we can set Hazrat Umar(RaziaAllah Hu Ta’aala Anhuu)’s Caliphate as an example, but once it IS implemented, I bet the LIBERAL’s of our society will still be against it.
Then there is the Immense Diverse set of thoughts and beliefs in the diverse youth. Examples in the earlier posts intigating the punjab and sind phadda here as well (As if its not already around everywhere).
Pro-Musharraf I am not, but I do know that No one of us respect our LIMITS, if unchecked. Let alone politicians, our society can only be organized once we organize ourselves individually and then we will automatically be an organized nation, and once organized we will InshaAllah be on the right track.
In my point of view, the Solution lies in the very BASIC things that we all tend to overlook. Why do we need the govt to organize us, dont we know that the govt itself needs organization. I think we know that for MORE than 40 yrs.
I bet many of us wont be even KNOWING the basic principles of morality and Islam. Even driving responsibly changes the situation. Why do we ONLY respect the traffic signal when a TULLA is standing, isnt it our Responsibility to do so.
Once we start being true to our selves InshaAllah things will improve.
Every Material as a whole has its characteristics due to its ATOMIC and SUBATOMIC characteristics. So we improve ourselves and DO IT instead of just SAYING it. Things WILL inshaAllah Improve, and societies DONT change OVERNIGHT, as we didnt land to where we are in a short time. So PATIENCE is one more thing that we LACK.
May Allah Help you, us and the WHOLE nation.
Allah Hafiz
PS
One more thing, I think that whoever gets absolute power, Exploits it. Thats what the media did, thats what the Judiciary did and thats what Mushy did!
I begin with the Name of Allah S.W.T
Hello freinds,
I just recently attended a religous “ijtima”
The experience was PHENOMENAL!
Being around “like-minded, constructive, positive and enlightened muslims” was truly an upheaval of my own identity as one.
In the course of my two days stay there, I felt for the first time the feeling of being ONE.
To those who have not felt it, let me tell you, it got me goose bumps, The unity and the collective compassion for the same goal was so strong and encouraging!
the twos days moved me so much that i have gotten hope in my people, in the muslims!
We all want to help ourselves, our poor state, what is lacking is conviction, which is due to hopelessness.
The glass can be half full, or half empty, depends on our perspective.
We can be hopefull and do wat we all WANT to do, or we can be hopeless and let things get worse.
Its Our choice!
emergency….it wasnt pakistan which needed the to be controlled urgently….for itself… nor were its people who needed to be controlled…the crisis were only for musharraf…this shall happen right on the eve,when the decision of the judicial council was to be announced against his wish to stand for presidential elections 08′….not from office and not untill a wait of 2 yrs could he do so…he wouldve lost all his powers!…so do what? befool them, make them ineffective..take their power from them..them ALL…anyone who could be a threat to him…shut their eyes,ears,minds….make them dummies…..huh ..but who are we?…..a threat? ahahahah…(sarcasm) and how?? we the powerless masses….who have heard of the word democracy…never have had interface with it……we have proven ourselves as an apathetic,ignorent and self absorbed nation,since sometime…if not,then how do the same politicians repetitively do this to us..the same hand full of looters giving each other turns to pillage our national reserves…does it really matter who comes n loots our nation away…do we feel ownership towards Pakistan…do we care if someone harms it ?Really do we care?..or is it just lip service..a thought we are just used to…are we willing to get up and do something for oursleves….Pakistan is us….so arent we selfish aswell…we dont really care…till our day goes by uneffected..morning to noon to night…so what if a dozen died….well too bad..so what if emergency happened ….the nation dint respond…evryday life remained the same broadcasted international channels….so we have become an individually self-centered nation…and our politicans are none but from us..and they represent us…so how do we eXpect them to behave different…
I agree… Although We (as a nation)- sitting in any familiar gathering - feel a compelling urge to be highly vocal about the issues facing our country… but when it actually comes to getting up and doing something about it, we are no better than a bunch of barking dogs who just don’t know how to bite!
We can talk all we want but it really doesn’t matter.
We comfortably say that we don’t cast votes in elections because we don’t feel that any of the candidates deserves to represent the country - what we fail to realize here is that by doing so, we are in effect putting up a sheer display of “paarha likha jaahilism”…
Did you know that there is a system in India’s constitution, as per the 1969 act, in section “49-O” that a person can go to the polling booth, confirm his identity, get his finger marked and convey the presiding election officer that he doesn’t want to vote anyone!
Yes such a feature is available, but obviously these seemingly notorious leaders have never disclosed it. This is called “49-O”.
Why should you go and say “I VOTE NOBODY”… because, in a ward, if a candidate wins, say by 123 votes, and that particular ward has received “49-O” votes more than 123, then that polling will be cancelled and will have to be re-polled .
Not only that, but the candidature of the contestants will be removed and they cannot contest the re-polling, since people had already expressed their decision on them .
This would bring fear into parties and hence look for genuine candidates for their parties for election. This would change the way, of our whole political system… it is seemingly surprising why the election commission has not revealed such a feature to the public….
60 years……no one dared to enter the tribal area not even the British
60 years no one had balls to standup against the Baloch tribal landlords asking for outrageous sums as royalty and denying provision of necessities including education to “their” people to diffuse any possibility to have some one question the right to rule them.
as cliché it may sound…but truth of the matter is that the forex reserves are there where they have never been before…the recent GDRs have seen an amazing response…over subscription! the stock exchange is a country’s report card…and the freedom of media was alone the work of this government.
Now for Musharraf making mistakes…every one does…Napoleon did it…so did Tipu…Zulfiqar Bhutto, a hero of many, also made them… but since its human nature that 1..we remember the golden age when it has passed and 2… when we patronize any leader…we sing songs of their positives…KAMAL ATATURK has a sign put up at his tomb…requesting NO ONE to say the prayer(dua-e-Mughfirat) for him…and yet the turks adore him.
“Empathy” is a word we all generally lack… Musharraf is running the country…has been… he passed the law for women. he solved the LAL masjid in a best possible manner… it is him getting a gwadar developed…he has a thousand issues per second to tackle and if he fails in communicating the reasoning behind his decisions…if he is bringin change and has failed to manage it… that should not be the reason why us the educated class cannot make certain assumptions…or..its a pity…i am sure not many here have sat and heard his rebuttal for emergency…but here we are pointing fingers!
Put your self in his shoes. Am not saying I don’t dislike my right to watch free news taken away….i hate being deprived of that but it was him who gave freedom to the press in the first place…not justified but yet I know for sure that 30 yrs down the line. His name WILL be taken alongside that of Bhutto.
Lord.. Give us wisdom to know the difference between accepting things and changing those we cannot accept.