Comments on: Where Are Karachi’s Students? http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/11/09/where-are-karachis-students/ Mon, 06 Feb 2012 22:27:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: SaimaR http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/11/09/where-are-karachis-students/comment-page-4/#comment-47905 SaimaR Fri, 23 Nov 2007 04:27:16 +0000 http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/11/09/where-are-karachis-students/#comment-47905 Different situations need different leadership styles. Quaid e Azam probbaly wouldn't prove effective today as he was a States man effective in dealing with the British raj. Today's chaos needs an army man. btw by hero worship I meant making these no good leaders larger than life where as the true hero is a sharif guy making an HONEST living feeding & taking care of his family in this day & age Different situations need different leadership styles. Quaid e Azam probbaly wouldn’t prove effective today as he was a States man effective in dealing with the British raj. Today’s chaos needs an army man.
btw by hero worship I meant making these no good leaders larger than life where as the true hero is a sharif guy making an HONEST living feeding & taking care of his family in this day & age

]]> By: Saima Nasir http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/11/09/where-are-karachis-students/comment-page-4/#comment-47904 Saima Nasir Fri, 23 Nov 2007 01:01:01 +0000 http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/11/09/where-are-karachis-students/#comment-47904 @SaimaR "One of our major problems as a nation is that we are hero worshippers." correction: we are turning into a nation of zhombies ruled by vampires. Where are the heroes that we have 'worshiped' in the past 20 or 30 years? Do you know any? @SaimaR

“One of our major problems as a nation is that we are hero worshippers.”

correction:
we are turning into a nation of zhombies ruled by vampires. Where are the heroes that we have ‘worshiped’ in the past 20 or 30 years? Do you know any?

]]> By: SaimaR http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/11/09/where-are-karachis-students/comment-page-4/#comment-47903 SaimaR Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:03:48 +0000 http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/11/09/where-are-karachis-students/#comment-47903 One of our major problems as a nation is that we are hero worshippers. We tend to think our leaders are or should be infalliable. What we need to do is to be practicle & rational. What are our alternatives right now? With all the crazy taliban types going around slaughtering our forces, do you want a strong reign or let every one do as they please? And who says western democracy is flaw less..Iqbal has a cool verse which says it counts the quantity and not quality of people..any way I think for right now Musharaff is the best alternative & I am NOT a fan of Musharaff! One of our major problems as a nation is that we are hero worshippers. We tend to think our leaders are or should be infalliable. What we need to do is to be practicle & rational. What are our alternatives right now? With all the crazy taliban types going around slaughtering our forces, do you want a strong reign or let every one do as they please? And who says western democracy is flaw less..Iqbal has a cool verse which says it counts the quantity and not quality of people..any way I think for right now Musharaff is the best alternative & I am NOT a fan of Musharaff!

]]> By: Saima Nasir http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/11/09/where-are-karachis-students/comment-page-4/#comment-47902 Saima Nasir Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:08:00 +0000 http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/11/09/where-are-karachis-students/#comment-47902 @Saimar Imran's personal life is out in the open, unlike your darling dictator's or any of the other politicians.......His life is not a mess but a very clear example of what one has to give up in life to follow one's mission and dream. He has not taken from Pakistan as much as he has given back to it and its people. You keep looking for options........someone who could take place of the corrupt politicians and military dictators but won't accept Imran Khan because he is different form the rest of the herd(absurd logic). He is straight forward and feels the pain of the common man. Doesn't portray himself as 'holier than thou', accepts his past and knows how to make amends in himself.....a man who is so honest,open to change and has such strength of character is not fit to be a counrty's leader.......maybe you are right he is too good to be our leader...becuase we will never make him proud of us as he has made us proud of him.....A man of such high self-esteem could never be a leader of people with no honour and courage! @Saimar

Imran’s personal life is out in the open, unlike your darling dictator’s or any of the other politicians…….His life is not a mess but a very clear example of what one has to give up in life to follow one’s mission and dream.
He has not taken from Pakistan as much as he has given back to it and its people.

You keep looking for options……..someone who could take place of the corrupt politicians and military dictators but won’t accept Imran Khan because he is different form the rest of the herd(absurd logic).
He is straight forward and feels the pain of the common man. Doesn’t portray himself as ‘holier than thou’, accepts his past and knows how to make amends in himself…..a man who is so honest,open to change and has such strength of character is not fit to be a counrty’s leader…….maybe you are right he is too good to be our leader…becuase we will never make him proud of us as he has made us proud of him…..A man of such high self-esteem could never be a leader of people with no honour and courage!

]]> By: saimaR http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/11/09/where-are-karachis-students/comment-page-4/#comment-47901 saimaR Thu, 22 Nov 2007 04:03:39 +0000 http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/11/09/where-are-karachis-students/#comment-47901 karachi students don't need to protest. Karchi has probably benefitted the most under Musharraf. Granted Musharraf is no saint but he is still the choice of a lesser evil. Who is an alternative to Musharaf? BB & nawaz Sharif have already been tested. And honestly Imran's personal life is such a mess how do you expect him to keep the country in order if he cannot keep his own home in order. karachi students don’t need to protest. Karchi has probably benefitted the most under Musharraf. Granted Musharraf is no saint but he is still the choice of a lesser evil. Who is an alternative to Musharaf? BB & nawaz Sharif have already been tested. And honestly Imran’s personal life is such a mess how do you expect him to keep the country in order if he cannot keep his own home in order.

]]> By: ghettophilosopher http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/11/09/where-are-karachis-students/comment-page-4/#comment-47900 ghettophilosopher Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:46:52 +0000 http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/11/09/where-are-karachis-students/#comment-47900 It was really great to read through all of your thoughts, although I'm not going to conclude any thing over here from what y'all have to say as that is your opinion. But regarding those who say that what's going on in Lahore, Islamabad and rest of the areas where the demonstrations are being held, I would like to say one thing. What's wrong in that? Democracy isn't just the rule of the people that is its meaning in a much closed context. In reality the true meaning of democracy is to say and respect what others say; I hope y'all feel what I'm trying to speak over here. And that's what we are practicing over here aren't we. We all contribute our thoughts and hope that they'd be respected; indeed they are abused, refuted and subjected to harassments. Because of our prejudices and cultural stereotyping we have created divisions among our selves. Today the only reason why others empower us is that we are divided and lack that patriotism that is most needed. Today the citizens of Karachi are staying back at home is because they have nothing to complain, at-least I don't I was out the other night and every thing seems normal to me, so why would I care? Why should I stage protest for this guy once our hero for winning the only world cup for Pakistan? And the most confusing question, what in the world was he thinking before getting into politics. He already had his name in the history books. Everyone knows about the dirt that Pakistani politics has throughout subjected to coups, assassinations and all forms of political maneuvering. Don't you think that what that one person intends to do is purely democratic? Thinks and decide, and please don't inter-text your decision or the reading process with the past of that person. What has happened to him is that right? "The foundation of a human being is his intellect; and a man without intellect has no religion."[Prophet Muhammad] It was really great to read through all of your thoughts, although I’m not going to conclude any thing over here from what y’all have to say as that is your opinion. But regarding those who say that what’s going on in Lahore, Islamabad and rest of the areas where the demonstrations are being held, I would like to say one thing. What’s wrong in that?
Democracy isn’t just the rule of the people that is its meaning in a much closed context. In reality the true meaning of democracy is to say and respect what others say; I hope y’all feel what I’m trying to speak over here. And that’s what we are practicing over here aren’t we. We all contribute our thoughts and hope that they’d be respected; indeed they are abused, refuted and subjected to harassments.
Because of our prejudices and cultural stereotyping we have created divisions among our selves. Today the only reason why others empower us is that we are divided and lack that patriotism that is most needed. Today the citizens of Karachi are staying back at home is because they have nothing to complain, at-least I don’t I was out the other night and every thing seems normal to me, so why would I care? Why should I stage protest for this guy once our hero for winning the only world cup for Pakistan? And the most confusing question, what in the world was he thinking before getting into politics. He already had his name in the history books. Everyone knows about the dirt that Pakistani politics has throughout subjected to coups, assassinations and all forms of political maneuvering.
Don’t you think that what that one person intends to do is purely democratic? Thinks and decide, and please don’t inter-text your decision or the reading process with the past of that person. What has happened to him is that right?

“The foundation of a human being is his intellect; and a man without intellect has no religion.”[Prophet Muhammad]

]]> By: Reality_check http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/11/09/where-are-karachis-students/comment-page-4/#comment-47899 Reality_check Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:25:23 +0000 http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/11/09/where-are-karachis-students/#comment-47899 Again who is saying that IMRAN is anarchist. As for Musharraf he has to deal with the stuff that we send to the assemblies. It is always very easy to criticise him over this, but when it comes to any crises whole lot of pressure is put on him to talk to the elected representatives. As for safe passage, who could have turned down the Saudi Prince when his country was giving Pakistan free oil and we were at the lowest ebb, beggars can't be choosers. As for the others, you never get conviction from our legal system, all you get is zamanat, delays and stale evidence, so what to do, again its very easy to criticize. As for Daudpota and water distribution issue, it must have been a major difference of opinion on how to tackle it, BTW the current CM of Sindh Arbab Ghulam boasts on every occasion that how he solved this matter and plugged all leakages. I don't know how much is true but lets not tangle in petty issues. I am not in the business of creating devils or saints, and neither am keen on being proud or ashamed. It is very easy to demand, we can even demand paradise but its very difficult do something positive especially in a country like Pakistan. I am not the one to degrade a person who has done beyond expectations and remained resolute, in fact I feel indebted. Even if he is un-ceremoniously dislodged I will never use a bad word for him. Again who is saying that IMRAN is anarchist. As for Musharraf he has to deal with the stuff that we send to the assemblies. It is always very easy to criticise him over this, but when it comes to any crises whole lot of pressure is put on him to talk to the elected representatives. As for safe passage, who could have turned down the Saudi Prince when his country was giving Pakistan free oil and we were at the lowest ebb, beggars can’t be choosers. As for the others, you never get conviction from our legal system, all you get is zamanat, delays and stale evidence, so what to do, again its very easy to criticize. As for Daudpota and water distribution issue, it must have been a major difference of opinion on how to tackle it, BTW the current CM of Sindh Arbab Ghulam boasts on every occasion that how he solved this matter and plugged all leakages. I don’t know how much is true but lets not tangle in petty issues.

I am not in the business of creating devils or saints, and neither am keen on being proud or ashamed. It is very easy to demand, we can even demand paradise but its very difficult do something positive especially in a country like Pakistan. I am not the one to degrade a person who has done beyond expectations and remained resolute, in fact I feel indebted. Even if he is un-ceremoniously dislodged I will never use a bad word for him.

]]> By: Saima Nasir http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/11/09/where-are-karachis-students/comment-page-4/#comment-47898 Saima Nasir Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:29:42 +0000 http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/11/09/where-are-karachis-students/#comment-47898 Architect of Kargil operation a "national savior"...architect of Shaukat Khanum cancer hospital.... a "confused, arrogant traitor!" Musharaf provided safe passages to murderers and looters like Altaf and Nawaz and still is a stabilizing force for the country. Imran Khan who demanded education and justice for the common man is an anarchist! Imran should have listened to Mush who has compromised with the likes of BB, chaudries and Altaf.....but asked a man of principles like Mr. Daudpotta to leave the governorship of Sindh because of disagreement on the water distribution scheme between the provinces..... Do/can/should You really feel proud of yourself when you try to justify Musharaf's actions and associate with someone like him? Architect of Kargil operation a “national savior”…architect of Shaukat Khanum cancer hospital…. a “confused, arrogant traitor!”

Musharaf provided safe passages to murderers and looters like Altaf and Nawaz and still is a stabilizing force for the country. Imran Khan who demanded education and justice for the common man is an anarchist!

Imran should have listened to Mush who has compromised with the likes of BB, chaudries and Altaf…..but asked a man of principles like Mr. Daudpotta to leave the governorship of Sindh because of disagreement on the water distribution scheme between the provinces…..

Do/can/should You really feel proud of yourself when you try to justify Musharaf’s actions and associate with someone like him?

]]> By: Saima Nasir http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/11/09/where-are-karachis-students/comment-page-4/#comment-47897 Saima Nasir Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:28:33 +0000 http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/11/09/where-are-karachis-students/#comment-47897 Architect of Kargil operation a "national savior"...architect of Shaukat Khanum cancer hospital.... a "confused, arrogant traitor!" Musharaf provided safe passages to murderers and looters like Altaf and Nawaz and still is a stabilizing force for the country. Imran Khan who demanded education and justice for the common man is an anarchist! Imran should have listened to Mush who has compromised with the likes of BB, chaudries and Altaf.....but asked a man of principles like Mr. Daudpotta to leave the governorship of Sindh because of disagreement on the water distribution scheme between the provinces..... Do/can/should You really feel proud of yourself when you try to justify Musharaf's actions and associate with someone like him? Architect of Kargil operation a “national savior”…architect of Shaukat Khanum cancer hospital…. a “confused, arrogant traitor!”

Musharaf provided safe passages to murderers and looters like Altaf and Nawaz and still is a stabilizing force for the country. Imran Khan who demanded education and justice for the common man is an anarchist!

Imran should have listened to Mush who has compromised with the likes of BB, chaudries and Altaf…..but asked a man of principles like Mr. Daudpotta to leave the governorship of Sindh because of disagreement on the water distribution scheme between the provinces…..

Do/can/should You really feel proud of yourself when you try to justify Musharaf’s actions and associate with someone like him?

]]> By: Saima Nasir http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/11/09/where-are-karachis-students/comment-page-4/#comment-47896 Saima Nasir Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:26:38 +0000 http://karachi.metblogs.com/2007/11/09/where-are-karachis-students/#comment-47896 Architect of Kargil operation a "national savior"...architect of Shaukat Khanum cancer hospital.... a "confused, arrogant traitor!" Musharaf provided safe passages to murderers and looters like Altaf and Nawaz and still is a stabilizing force for the country. Imran Khan who demanded education and justice for the common man is an anarchist! Imran should have listened to Mush who has compromised with the likes of BB, chaudries and Altaf.....but asked a man of principles like Mr. Daudpotta to leave the governorship of Sindh because of disagreement on the water distribution scheme between the provinces..... Do/can/should You really feel proud of yourself when you try to justify Musharaf's actions and associate with someone like him? Architect of Kargil operation a “national savior”…architect of Shaukat Khanum cancer hospital…. a “confused, arrogant traitor!”

Musharaf provided safe passages to murderers and looters like Altaf and Nawaz and still is a stabilizing force for the country. Imran Khan who demanded education and justice for the common man is an anarchist!

Imran should have listened to Mush who has compromised with the likes of BB, chaudries and Altaf…..but asked a man of principles like Mr. Daudpotta to leave the governorship of Sindh because of disagreement on the water distribution scheme between the provinces…..

Do/can/should You really feel proud of yourself when you try to justify Musharaf’s actions and associate with someone like him?

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