Realities and Truth – a talk by Sufi Master Shaykh Fadhlallah Haeri

Realities and Truth, a talk by Sufi Master Shaykh Fadhlallah Haeri is being hosted at The Second Floor
This Thursday 29th of November 2007 At 7. Pm sharp.

Here are the details of the event.

“Whatever exists and is experienceable reflects an aspect of reality. Thus we call the normal wakened state the ‘real’ world. All worldly situations change; all so-called realities are transient and yet have some reference to the absolute unchanging truth.” – Shaykh Fahdlalla Haeri

Author, teacher and Sufi Master, Shaykh Fadhlalla Haeri has recently established the Academy of Self Knowledge (ASK) in South Africa, which offers a unique online course in the science of self-knowledge based on universal truths drawn from a wide source of teachings consonant with Islam.

For almost three decades he has travelled extensively, teaching and sharing his remarkable insights with people from all backgrounds and spiritual traditions.

Shaykh Fadhlalla has visited Pakistan often and has a special regard and love for the people of this part of the world where he has supported many charitable efforts, specifically in community health services and in education.

Event Co-ordinators: Kurt, Ramla A.
ASK Co-ordinator: Tammy, Rizwane, Muna Bilgrami
Venue host: The Second Floor [T2F] Cafe – a Project of PeaceNiche, an NGO

Fee / Minimum Donation: Anything you like. Please support the PeaceNiche platform for open dialogue and creative expression generously.

Date: Thursday, November 29, 2007
Time: 7:00pm – 8:00pm
Location: The Second Floor [T2F], 6-C, Prime Point Building
Street: Main Khayanban -e-Ittehad Road, Phase 7, DHA
City/Town: Karachi
Phone – T2F: (021)538.9273


Shaykh Fadhlallah’s Books Catalog @ Zahra Publications

Image source:

Credits Ramla A.

62 Comments so far

  1. Arsalaan Haleem (unregistered) on December 4th, 2007 @ 6:12 pm

    I didn’t want to get into this needless debate, but I just couldn’t stop myself –

    My question to all is this: Isn’t arguing needlessly against the very basic tenants of our religion?

  2. Balma (unregistered) on December 4th, 2007 @ 8:21 pm

    * Ibrahim Aleh-salaam said

    It’s newly invented and not from Islam.

    Say what? Sufis are newly invented?

  3. Ibrahim (unregistered) on December 4th, 2007 @ 8:47 pm

    Balam, you’re too kind for finding me wrothy enough to send salam on me. JazakAllahu khairan

    Try to get my quote right before objecting to it. I said this Sufism (i.e. fake metaphysics-teaching “sufi master”).

    So, now find a new objection. Quickly!

  4. Balma (unregistered) on December 4th, 2007 @ 9:01 pm

    Sorry Hazrat Ibrahim, I am still going to comment on the same line. You said ‘it’, by which I assume you meant sufism, is newly invented.
    Care to explain what did you have in mind?

  5. Ibrahim (unregistered) on December 4th, 2007 @ 11:10 pm

    What?! What a retarded comment. So, what do think ‘it’ refers to? Doesn’t it refer to “this Sufism” in the previous sentence?

  6. Balma (unregistered) on December 5th, 2007 @ 2:05 am

    OK, Hazrat Ibrahim Aleh Salam, I am getting confused. Just answer this: Is Sufism newly invented?

  7. Ibrahim (unregistered) on December 5th, 2007 @ 5:58 am

    If you want a general response, then define what you mean by “Sufism” because since you are quite ignorant I don’t think you understand what it means? Rest assured, this Sufism is newly invented although the spirit behind is quite old!!

  8. Balma (unregistered) on December 5th, 2007 @ 8:55 pm

    What ever, Ibrahim!

  9. Saima Nasir (unregistered) on December 6th, 2007 @ 10:12 am

    Laugh Ibrahim! Laugh aloud, because you haven’t laughed in centuries…atleast you have a reason now…it is 72 virgins instead of 70!Lucky You!

  10. Reality_check (unregistered) on December 7th, 2007 @ 1:40 am

    IBRAHIM thank you for the weird interpretation of my last post. There is indeed an organized effort to exclude Sufi’s from Ghous-al-Azam to Data Gunj Bakhsh from the realm of so called mainstream Islam, and that’s why Talibaan came so hard on the Khanqah’s and killed so many Qawwali lovers. But the irony is nobody remembers an orthodox Mullah or Aalim after his death or even when he moves to a different city, but the Sufi refuses to die, that’s because when you preach love, you also get it and vice versa.

    As for my reasons for being a non-believer other than “regimentation and conformity” as preached by religious orthodoxy are tied to what makes me a human. That would be free thinking and consciousness as exhibited by the one who first invented the wheel, or by the one who first said that Earth is round, or by the one who first drew on the cave wall or even the Sufi who urges you to search for the truth within and for that is hanged like Munsoor Hallaj.

    SAIMA isn’t the prospect of paradise with seventy virgins to satisfy and the in-house politics associated with it, far more daunting than jumping in burning hell?

  11. Ibrahim (unregistered) on December 7th, 2007 @ 9:36 am

    No…I must cry. Can’t laugh at this!

    Off-shoot of religion in my dictionary would mean non-orthodox.

    Ok, I read your reasons, Reality_Check. But, is it possible for somebody to think and still end up believing in Allah and Islam?

    The things you listed: invetion of wheel; finding out Earth is round; drawing on cave walls…how would believing in Allah or Islam prevent you from doing these things? Can you explain.

    Again, is it possible for you to search within and end up on Islam, no “orthodox” Islam?

  12. Reality_check (unregistered) on December 7th, 2007 @ 8:53 pm


    Yes absolutely right, but the key is everybody should be free to exercise this right and choose whatever belief system he/she may like. On the other hand no body including the state should have the power to impose, and nobody should be decreed for his / her beliefs, religious or non-religious.

    As for your other question, this is an eternal debate going on since the first human civilization took root. There have always been litrarlist, who have always tried to impose literal interpretation of religion (whatever religion that might be) and there always been those who have been searching for truth within i.e. the spiritual path ( Anul-Haque God is within and I am God) So Sufi thought is as old as mainstream religious thought. And then there are those who have taken the scientific route to discover the truth about us, about the heavens and the earth. In all history the persons exercising the later options have been cruelly persecuted and labelled as heretics.

    Hence the point is every human should have the right to study and choose any of the options available and nobody should be persecuted or for that matter ridiculed for his/her beliefs. Every child should be raised as a free thinker, no indoctrination and no fear. It is as simple as that.

    Personally if you are asking me, in my quest I have found more evidence to not believe, and I am well within my right to come to that conclusion, but to the orthodox I’ll be a Murtid and the punishment for that would be you know ………

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