Unveiling operations of a local software house

I remember seeing the advertisement from a local company offering a handsome salary of around 55k per month and promising a car to candidates. The ad was placed in the Daily Dawn, Classified, Sunday, the careers section.

There were opportunities for software engineers and network engineers and I thought about applying there, but a close friend of mine stopped me from doing so and told me a story about the company. This story was not new for me but it was never told from a mouth that I could trust.

No matter how inquisitive I was to know the truth I had no source to do so.

Only today when a colleague forwarded me an email and asked me to check it out. This was an article was published in the “Daily Ummat” and was forwarded by an email from a public group raising awareness among people.

Now that this article was printed in a news paper, I have the urge to know if there’s any fact in the software house “AXACT” doing porn business.

There are links in the article that show the name of the software house and the discussion forums from the employees

I’m still not very sure, but I would like to know if any of the readers have any experience with the company? My colleague, fresh graduate of NED University tells me that one of his class mates got an offer letter from the company but has refused to join because of the above mentioned reason

148 Comments so far

  1. Lala (unregistered) on January 3rd, 2008 @ 7:46 pm

    @M Ali Khan

    Hahah! don’t ever think of working at AXACT. I think you are already working for them and know their unethical and illegal activities.

    And do you want our country to grown in this away? i.e. by fraud and doing illegal business? and spying on employees?

    Get a life owners of aXact.


  2. Balma (unregistered) on January 3rd, 2008 @ 8:34 pm

    * Eddie O’Riely writes:

    MA in Islamic Studies from Trinity College.

    Eddie, this is your new name Adnan, I see the point you are trying to make, but there are lots of Trinity colleges all over the world, some famous one being at Oxford and Cambridge, also in Hartford, US and etc.
    They may have dept of religeous studies and you shoud be impressed if they allow people to research Islamic studies.

    You are so similar to christian fanatics like Bill O’rielly of Fox News that I had to come up with your new name: Eddie O’Rielly. Enjoy.


  3. Tajamul Hussain (unregistered) on January 3rd, 2008 @ 9:06 pm

    I am a legal practitioner and I have gone through the official response of Axact http://www.axact.com/truth and also what is written over here. I want to make an honest comment that no company doing anything illegal will go for so many defamation cases globally including cases against local and foreign newspapers. A lot is being written about our politician and even other multinational companies. Some links are also provided in these postings. How many have actually gone ahead and filed a defamation case? It is difficult to file and pursue legal matters over here as well as anywhere in the world; atleast more difficult than making anonymous postings on an internet blog!

    In India when outsourcing boom started it ate a lot of jobs in the west. There were many defamation campaigns that started against various companies and even the country itself. As a result of which pressure was built on companies to bring the outsourced work back to their home countries. Even companies like Dell succumb to this pressure. However India as country came strong which resulted in closure of communities like “we hate India” and formulation of many laws including provision to the police department to obtain IP addresses immediately from companies like Google etc. to combat defamation and other crimes committed anonymously.


  4. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on January 3rd, 2008 @ 9:34 pm


    Eddie, this is your new name Adnan..
    You are so similar to christian fanatics like Bill O’rielly of Fox News that I had to come up with your new name: Eddie O’Rielly. Enjoy

    Balma, thanks for issuing ‘Fatwa’ about my new name with the reason. I am truly honored and pleased that you have not grown up as yet.

    P.S: I’m not even least bothered. Keep entertaining :-)


  5. Balma (unregistered) on January 3rd, 2008 @ 9:47 pm

    Thank you bhai O’Rielly.


  6. Balma (unregistered) on January 3rd, 2008 @ 10:20 pm

    As I have said that the degrees are not jaali, but the schools are jaali. Let me explain this a bit more. I believe that even the schools are not jaali. It is the people who are giving their money to these schools are stupid and intend to fraud people, and therefore are jaali.

    I mean look at this way, once in Athens I saw few jaali universities there claiming some relationship to some fraudy US school.
    Why go far, check our own neighborhood.

    The bastion of burger education in Karachi, Greenwich University, is supposedly affiliated with some US university or UK University. I bet, if someone checks the foreign univ this bruger bastion is affiliated with, one will find a post office box number as the address….or some jaali UPS store (Mail Box Etc) fake address pretending to be a real street address.

    Similarly, Preston University on Drigh Road in Karachi claims US affiliation. It is also supposed to be a branch of US university. Ever bothered to check their US parent’s address.

    But, lets give the credit where it is due. Preston and Greenwich both have one house or one building based campus and both do give some learning expreience to its students. It is just that our whole fucking assholish qaum is fucking fraudy and show off, that they prefer universities with western sounding names than local private university such as Hamdard or Sir Syed. I think two bit burgers will feel it insulting if they accept they go to Hamdard, which is a university speard over hundreds (?) of acres and has endowment etc…..noooo, these mother fucking burgers want western sounding names, even if they are dubious schools such as greenwich…. khair….this is another topic.

    Also, US is a free country and lots of peole are out to make people chay wow all the time. For example, in the US it is not illegal to incorporate a university using some stupid name such as Blama University Inc.

    Once you have something like this, fraudy Balma can start building businesses in Karachi such as Preston and Greenwich which can claim US affiliation.

    Another thing…..it is perfectly legal in the US to start a University and give degrees based on life experience….Since the advent of Internet, people all over the world have gotten PHD degrees from them:-), but twenty, twenty five years ago, most such customers were US based. People actually want to have a title, give money to these universities and get PhDs.

    So it is extremely important to check the credentials of people claiming US degrees. None of these duss numbery universities are accredit by any professional organization. Heck, even Pakistan Engineer Council maintains a list of recognized foreign universities.

    therfore, now I believe, this chay wow Liaquat Hussain is not the main guilty party. The real culprit is that Karachi University Burning Ass..fucking burney… I hope they hang him upside down and let dogs harrass him during this.


  7. Tajamul Hussain (unregistered) on January 3rd, 2008 @ 10:49 pm

    A point which I need to mention here is that whether or not they are doing an illegal act is still debatable but the kind of comments made here seems to violate many local laws. In Pakistan these comments can take anyone to the court as per the provisions of Defamation ordinance 2002 and also some sections of PPC like 500, 501 and 502. These sections calls for criminal investigation and FIR can be lodged against the person making such comments.


  8. ALAM (unregistered) on January 3rd, 2008 @ 11:30 pm

    @Tajamul Hussain

    By referring to Dell in India, so u r basically implying that Dell got out because of Dell/American hatred for India? Don’t u think this is defamatory for Americans and Dell? Shouldn’t ur ass be pulled in court of law for this reckless/stupid accusation?

    People consider fake degrees and plagiarised papers unethical (if not illegal) because they are. Companies involved in them should come out clean and say they r involved in it, so that candidates think clearly before applying for jobs there, and staking their careers. Nobody accuses a company of dubious dealings because they hate the country. It is defamatory on ur part to say so.


  9. Balma (unregistered) on January 4th, 2008 @ 12:34 am

    Dell moved call center services for their business customer back to the US, and not for their residential customers. The reason was that business customers were fed up with Indian accents and Subraminiums pretending to be Sams and Lakshmis pretending to be Lucys. Just kidding, but Dell thought that their highest paying customers (businesses) should get better service than the Indian call centers could provide.

    And Tajamul Hussain type people are the reason everyone in Pakistan should be suspicious of lawyers’s movement for democracy. These lawyers are society’s rejects….have you ever seen a kid claiming to become a lawyer when he or she grows up?….yes, 70/80 years ago, but not today. Only society’s rejects go to law colleges in Paksitan these days.
    Lawyers and judges are extremely corrupt in Pakistan and should not be trusted at all.
    Dhamkiyaa’n dae rahaa hae saalah, chal bhaag idhar sae!


  10. Tany (unregistered) on January 4th, 2008 @ 2:30 am

    @Tajamul Hussain

    You must be working at AXACT or you are related to owner’s of AXACT.

    Please go somewhere else. Here all people know that AXACT is involved in ILLEGAL activities. They sell ILLEGAL degrees! Fony degrees issued by fony universities and accrediated by your OWN fony socalled agencies.


  11. D0CT0RisGAY (unregistered) on January 4th, 2008 @ 12:21 pm

    @PKHAN

    “Example Fresh Software Engineer in USA starts with min of $5000.00 ”

    LOL>..are you retarded? where are you cooking up these numbers from ? A salary for $60,000 annually, is a really good starting salary in the states, not the minimum as you suggested. The minimum is around 30,000-35,000.


  12. lala (unregistered) on January 4th, 2008 @ 12:50 pm

    @D0CT0RisGAY (nice name)

    Well, if the so-called “software developer” is googling words and phrases, and is writing a plagiarised paper, then I don’t understand why he would get any more than 10-20K USD annually.

    so, in a way, PKHAN is right.


  13. LALA (unregistered) on January 4th, 2008 @ 1:12 pm

    waisay, what does PKHAN mean? Phannay Khan?


  14. BZ (unregistered) on January 4th, 2008 @ 3:30 pm

    and society rejects become acredited bloggers on the forums like this as i can see from archieves D0CT0R is the most mentally challaneged individual here


  15. D0CT0RisNOTGAY (unregistered) on January 4th, 2008 @ 11:12 pm

    @Balma: oh shaaadaaappp. Are you a lesbo?
    @LALA
    PKHAN = Pithu Khan = Paate Khan.. you know what these mean? :P


  16. Omar (unregistered) on January 5th, 2008 @ 12:51 am

    I represent a large group that is filing a major lawsuit against Axact. I cannot get into the specifics of the case. However, we are very interested in the ongoing discussion in this forum. If you are interested in helping us to expose Axact’s unethical and illegal operations in international courts, please contact us. Although we welcome and appreciate all pieces of information that you email to us, please understand that we can officially “use” information in court only if it includes verifiable evidence. Therefore, please be specific and include as many verifiable details as possible, from the past or present. No detail is too small.

    For the good of Pakistan and educational systems worldwide, we sincerely thank you.

    Email evidence to:
    axact_evidence@alumni.com


  17. INSAAN (unregistered) on January 5th, 2008 @ 1:11 am

    @Omar

    Are you that dense? nobody is going to send you anything if you don’t disclose your identity and street address to send evidence to. If you are a lawyer, then I do not see any reason why not to.

    Maybe you are from the same company, and collecting witnesses names to teach a lesson to?


  18. Balma (unregistered) on January 5th, 2008 @ 1:14 am

    Omar,
    You almost sound as dubious as Axact.
    Why don’t you first give more details about yourself before you ask otehrs to spill the beans.
    Your name, office address, etc will help our young engineers and engineernees.


  19. Omar (unregistered) on January 5th, 2008 @ 2:41 am

    INSAAN, there’s really no need to be rude.

    As I already stated, I cannot reveal any details about our developing case or our names/location, as that may give Axact certain advantages. I apologize if that bothers some of you, but it’s necessary.

    For anyone who shares INSAAN’s concern that I may be an Axact representative looking to “teach you a lesson,” please feel free to email your evidence using an anonymous proxy. Better yet, you can use an anonymous proxy on a public computer at a cafe. We have no need or desire to harm anyone who helps us.

    Thank you


  20. INSAAN (unregistered) on January 5th, 2008 @ 4:05 am

    @OMAR

    The fact remains the same that you want to know what exactly the ppl sharing info here, know.

    If anyone knows anything about the company, he/she can share here on this forum, behind the proxy anyways. Why do they have to send an email to you, genius?

    And anyways, if you demand specifics, that can expose anyone, irrespective of the fact how they sent you the information. The basic purpose of these “private” emails is to seek their cooperation in court of law, and their word that they r willing to be witness. Without your identification, that is not possible.


  21. Pkhan (unregistered) on January 5th, 2008 @ 4:28 am

    @DoctorisnotGAY::::::Do you know simple math:5000per month is 60000/year.But then ofcourse if you are GAY then you should be discriminated in states Too. So just learn the ABc….then apni Bukraat chhaato.


  22. Omar (unregistered) on January 5th, 2008 @ 4:29 am

    INSAAN, you are clearly NOT a “genius.” You are just rude.

    Do you know the definitions of “anonymous” and “verifiable”? If people anonymously email to us verifiable evidence, that means two things:

    1. we cannot identity the emailers, even if we wanted to do so

    2. because the evidence is VERIFIABLE, we can verify it ouselves and do not need the emailer to be a witness or to testify in court

    Thank you for your legal insights, INSAAN.

    Please email evidence to:
    axact_evidence@alumni.com


  23. Pkhan (unregistered) on January 5th, 2008 @ 4:30 am

    DoctorisnotGAY:::::people like you who are still flipping the burger are getting $20000.00/year


  24. INSAAN (unregistered) on January 5th, 2008 @ 5:29 am

    My bet is that Omar is Tajamul Hussain, the attorney who knows so much :P

    bottom line: Any verifianle evidence can identify the mailer. Only a dim wit can not understand this fact. I suspect you don understand it, you are just faking like an unfaithful woman :P


  25. Omar (unregistered) on January 5th, 2008 @ 5:57 am

    INSAAN, the only people who are as defensive and paranoid as you are Axact’s own representatives. What does that make YOU?

    Again, emailers do not have to provide their real names. We just want information that OTHER witnesses, whom we already have, can verify and corroborate.

    Do not let INSAAN scare you. Help us to publicly reveal the truth about Axact’s operations.

    Please email evidence to:
    axact_evidence@alumni.com


  26. INSAAN (unregistered) on January 5th, 2008 @ 6:02 am

    So why can’t ppl write whatever thye know here on this page?

    Why do they have to email you, privately?


  27. wasiq (unregistered) on January 5th, 2008 @ 10:00 am

    so do i owe this girl a happy meal or a hug or both….?

    To endless possibilities……


  28. Altaf Bai (Haye Haye) (unregistered) on January 7th, 2008 @ 12:48 am

    Wasiq: Kameene :D. bilkul darinda laga hai ye hug wali baat pe

    @PeeKhan: Saale tu Altaf Bai ka mazaaq uraata hai. Ghatia choore kahin ke! Ainda khi mien nazar aya to teri chaddi utaar doon ga saala haqeer keera!!


  29. wasiq (unregistered) on January 7th, 2008 @ 2:03 am

    i usually keep the career pages handy while doing the sunday breakfast of puri’s but sometimes the ads are so butterful you just can’t touch your greasy hands with it have to use something else….


  30. Saleem (unregistered) on January 8th, 2008 @ 8:00 am

    Does anyone have a list of sex or porn domains that Axact has created? I want to see them!

    :)


  31. Saleem (unregistered) on January 8th, 2008 @ 8:01 am

    Does anyone have a list of sex or porn domains that Axact has created? I want to see them!

    :)


  32. Raheel (unregistered) on January 8th, 2008 @ 10:47 am

    Mr Saleem No one able to provide your such domains coz AXACT never created these type of sites all are rumors, if any one have any domain whihc was created by axact so kindly present here with proof.


  33. wasiq (unregistered) on January 8th, 2008 @ 11:49 am

    You can create anonymous domains. Without lawsuit you won’t know about it. Axact’s own domain is anonymously registered.


  34. Usman Yasir (unregistered) on January 9th, 2008 @ 8:37 pm

    Ummat’s website is down due to this defamatory article.
    Pls check http://www.ummat.com.pk

    Initially it was showing “site suspended due to violation of policy, distribution of defamatory and libelous material”. Now it is showing “under construction”

    Also warrants have been issued against them. Visit updated version of Axact’s response http://www.axact.com/truth


  35. Saleem (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 4:28 am

    When I go to http://www.ummat.com.pk it works fine.

    Why don’t you show us proof of these “warrants” instead of just giving unsubstantiated ramblings and intimidation tactics?


  36. wasiq (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 5:17 am

    Posted by: wasiq at January 8, 2008 11:49 AM

    not me !i never use the L-word…please forward his/her email address it might be helpful when i dessert the KMB,go on vacations or she(Gjee) returns from the yatra…


  37. SELF (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 5:31 am

    This message was on Ummat site this morning;

    Website suspended

    due to violation of policy, distribution of defamatory and libelous material.


  38. EXACT (unregistered) on January 12th, 2008 @ 11:11 pm

    So they got suspended just for one morning? :D

    wtf


  39. Mohinder (unregistered) on January 13th, 2008 @ 3:41 am

    “So why can’t ppl write whatever thye know here on this page? Why do they have to email you, privately?”

    INSAAN:

    It’s common sense. If it is private communication that Axact can’t read, Axact will have no idea what they will be facing in court. They can’t formulate excuses for unknown evidence.


  40. insaan (unregistered) on January 13th, 2008 @ 5:41 am

    Mohinder:

    By law, u have to share evidence with the defendents, before you present it to the court.

    Don’t try to be a ghetto smart


  41. Mohinder (unregistered) on January 13th, 2008 @ 6:13 am

    Yes, at a certain point, INSAAN, but not MONTHS before necessary on a message board! Stop masquerading as someone who knows anything about the law.


  42. insaan (unregistered) on January 13th, 2008 @ 10:47 am

    I am not the one trying to be anyone, its “lawyers” like you trying to elicit evidence for your own benefit

    I am for sharing info with the public, Mohinder boy !


  43. Truth can be stranger then Fiction (unregistered) on January 20th, 2008 @ 10:42 pm

    Dear All:
    i just read all the comments posted here and i found most of them very interesting and accountable as fact.
    iam a softwaqre engg. with 10 months experience in a couple of very high paced software houses where i worked my a$$ off day in and day out.
    recently i got a job offer from Axact. as you might expectr it is very mouth watering and irresistable.
    but after reading all these comments iam very confused what to do?
    Can anoyone out there help me in makin a decision.. and help will be whole heartedly appreciated.


  44. insaan (unregistered) on January 21st, 2008 @ 3:26 am

    @Truth can be stranger then Fiction

    it depends on what u want to do in ur life? what does career mean to u?

    Ifu r doing software engineering at AXACT, thats good for u. If something else, even if legal and moral,but nothing to do with software engg, then u r wasting time in ur career.


  45. Truth can be stranger then Fiction (unregistered) on January 21st, 2008 @ 10:45 am

    @Insaan

    Well its not about what i do over there..what i wanna know is that what they are doing over there.
    If they are doin what i heard they are doin then i dont wanna be a part of such org even if they pay me a million bucks. i rather die of starvation then to promote such evils among the masses.
    But previously i heard such great things about axact n the career growin oppartunities over there back in my graduation days.back then i would have loved to work there.. and now when i finally got the offer , i get to hear all this.. plz help me out ….


  46. IRONIC (unregistered) on January 21st, 2008 @ 10:58 am

    @TRUTH, all you can do it trust us, i personally know many guyes at AXACT, and i know inside environment of Axact very well as well. if you have any doubt i would suggest you to go ahead and start working over there, you will get to know each and everything within a month or so, let me tell you inner environment will be always a mystery for you, people cant talk with other departments and teams and lot more things. by the way did you ever asked them about their products, (if yes they must have mentioned you some products), and did you ask them about their clients… (fucking no answer ;) )…

    Regards.


  47. Truth can be stranger then Fiction (unregistered) on January 21st, 2008 @ 12:40 pm

    Mystery always inherits conspiricies. I did asked them about the projects they are workin on n they told me about an erp they are plannin to develop.
    but i cant find a single client associated with them . and they are also not registered at pasha which is understandable since they are havin such conflicts with miss jahan…

    thanks guyz for all the replies.. realy appretiated.. but i still havent made my mind. may be bcoz iam havin a gud setup right now and lukin for something better then that not worse..

    still lookin for more suggestions..


  48. Obi Wan Kenobi (unregistered) on January 21st, 2008 @ 1:13 pm

    @ Truth can be stranger then Fiction

    Take a month off from your current organization and join Axact and if you smell some thing fishy then you could always go back to your old job. No one and I mean no one can make you work at Axact if you don’t want to in future. Take a chance and try Axact, you never know what you are going to get. Besides if you are talented and even your current company does not give you a month off, you could always find a decent job and in future interviews, you will have poeple sympathies when you tell them why you are leaving Axact and it would not reflect bad on your part. I would just say, try any thing once before declining any offer ONLY IF you have courage to leave all green behind you if you see some thing wrong. Some times Satan would make you blind to see all ills once you start getting big cash in your checking account, think about that aspect too.



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