Imran Khan barred from entering Karachi
For the third time around [first] [second] Imran Khan has been barred from Sindh. DAWN reports
Pakistani authorities barred opposition politician Imran Khan from entering Karachi on Thursday because he has called for a boycott of upcoming elections, officials said. Former cricket legend Khan was put back on a plane to Islamabad after officials prevented him from entering the southern province of Sindh, of which Karachi is the capital, Sindh home minister Akhtar Zamin said. “We do not want anything to disrupt the elections. That is why have sent him back,” Zamin told AFP. “If he does not want to contest elections, it is fine, but he should not incite other people to do so. He will be welcome to visit Sindh after elections.”
Seems like he still remains a sore thorn for the Sindh Govt aka MQM, but its interesting to see yet another lame excuse while other leaders of the APDM who are also boycotting the elections are permitted to enter Sindh.
Discussion is naturally open but please remain civil
I don’t care how much you hate MQM or much you love the sex addict the fact is that MQM is not in power right now. It’s the caretaker government. Regardless who is in power, the decision is right, keep every bloody damn moron out of the city and we’ll all get to live peacefully.
Oh and btw, please stop writing here. SPARE US WITH YOUR MADNESS!
Zee without getting into a verbal battle with you, its simply what happened in Karachi, you have the right to your opinion and I have mine, all I asked was a logical question, Imran (good or bad) has developed a hate relationship with MQM after his tussle with Altaf Hussain, there is no denying that.
But all said, please remain civil, thats without doubt the best way to convince others to your point of view. Engage in a healthy debate and you will be listened to otherwise its just useless chatter.
@Teeth,
No matter how much you, dogtor, MB, and Badnan hate MQM and write against it, its not going to change the ground reality. I dont want to get into any debate with you guys because its not worth it since your hate is based on something else not facts. Anyway just writing to let you know that within few weeks you will find out who still has roots in public and what people of Sindh wants. this freaking moron Imran Khan (rapist)better not come to khi again or he will be welcomed with GANDAI ANDAI..
you all MQM haters, dont waste your energy on trying to damage mqm’s image because it just simply wont work..
Hava a nice life
GA ALTAF
GA MUTTAHIDA
Dirty little scared Altafa is still directing traffic in karachi from his nice little pad in london. While his loyal supporter send him the money to live the good life in england. Just cause Altafa doesnt have the proverbials to come back to pakistan, he thinks no one else should enter karachi either.
Once a taxi driver, always a taxi driver! Have you guys ever heard Altafa speak on TV? Explains a lot about the way his mind works :)
If this was democracy, then this decision was not correct. But as all of us know, that there is no democracy and in fact we are not ready for it, this step is correct. Either you believe it or not, most of the Karachities, are fairly satisfied with MQM. I know that they are not 100% right, neither I strongly support them, but what they did for this city in these 5 years is worth appreciating.
It was better for Imran Khan to have kept his identity as a good cricketer but his politics have made him very controversial.
P.S. Please don’t take this comment as personal to any party, its just my own personal views and I can express my view as I am writing this from a democratic country, where lives Altaf ;)
You should show some maturity awab alvi. Being a mature person you must accept the reality that Imran is simply a media created leader and he is no say in the public. His remarks which are baseless and disgrace to the the mandate of Karachittes always becomes a problem. Karachi is not a hore that any one will come and use in the way they want. Please try to put some positive about people also. You are able to show pictures of only voilence and chaos in karachi but have never shown the reality. What is this all about. Does this show that you have some political affiliation or you simply dont respect the mandate of the karachitte. Please Awab we want to hear the truth as well which is benefical to Karachi. We respect you but you should prove that you deserve it.
There is something severely wrong with a state where one’s own citizens are barred from entering parts of the country. How many no-go areas will there be? and for how many? and for how long? This is sheer disrespect of our basic rights as citizens of Pakistan. The Govt can talk to Baitullah Mehsud who beaheads people but cannot allow Imran Khan into Karachi!
I wonder how many people know that Arif Alvi, one of the office bearers of Pakistan Tehreek Insaaf —-happens to be the father of Awab Alvi aka Teeth Maestro.
So that would explain a lot , wouldnt it:-))
pray tell me , if thats not conflict of intrest what else is it?
good job…i cant stand the man.
while i’m not a fan of the MQM (although i will concede, or maybe even applaud, the fact that they’ve done quite a lot of development in the city after coming into power.) Imran Khan is politically naive, ineffectual and unrealistic. He makes these idiotic statements and gestures and then expects…what?
Altaf Bhai, Pir of London, one who recieves money from the British agencies (he also generates lot of income through corruption and murders) is the one who has asked specifically to defame Mr. Imran Khan, one of the most respected Pakistani citizens in the world.
MQM, with his inferiority complex and a leader who neither has any liking or vote power in the country, wants everyone to be his sub-ordinate. This taxi-driver turned land mafia (and lately, a blackie politician) cannot withstand sophisticated queries from educated men and women. Therefore, the only way to stop someone is by forcing him back on plane.
See, I told you, MQM has this screwed up concept of democracy!
Altaf Bhai, Pir of London, one who recieves money from the British agencies (he also generates lot of income through corruption and murders) is the one who has asked specifically to defame Mr. Imran Khan, one of the most respected Pakistani citizens in the world.
MQM, with inferiority complex and a leader who neither has any liking or vote power in the country, wants everyone to be his sub-ordinate. This taxi-driver turned land mafia (and lately, a blackie politician) cannot withstand sophisticated queries from educated men and women. Therefore, the only way to stop someone is by forcing him back on plane.
See, I told you, MQM has this screwed up concept of democracy!
Mr. Franklin D. Roosevelt said,
"An election cannot give a country a firm sense of direction if it has two or more national parties which merely have different names but are as alike in their principles and aims as two peas in the same pod".
Now is that not the case with all parties contesting in the election?
Elections are won by men and women chiefly because most people vote against somebody rather than for somebody.
Get ready to be rogered both ways.
Immi was out of the news for few days, so he decided to take a short section in newspaper. And what he did was the easiest way to do it. Since he is not part of the election anymore, he seriously needs a hobby.
The one thing you dont get that Mr. Khan though in effectual is all the more capable of lighting a match in an already very tense situation, some people are hell bent upon inflaming Sindh and Karachi into an ethnic conflict.
Mr. Khan voluntarily or in-voluntarily has served their puprpose well. Though Iam not the one who would advocate showerring insignificant politicians with undue attention, but at this juncture if anything was to happen to Mr. Khan while fund raising in Karachi…..all hell will be let loose. So Mr. Khan perhaps you will have to wait until elections to make your appearance. Till then hold your horses, you are not participating in it anyway. So chill out grab your favorite Wine and watch the show for a while or you can enjoy company of your Jamatee allies, take a nostalgic tour of Punjab University, that would be refreshing.
Sindh government has gone mad for 3rd time now. Imran Khan has been banned once again from entering Sindh. I am really confused as to the level of biased mentality (or madness?) and the stupidity of intentions the decision makers have in our province. While terrorist roam free, a guy who is not only the pride of nation but keeping that aside has never been into any activity that could danger anyone’s life and property & in fact who rejected the idea of creating a youth wing on the basis that the youth will ask for arms, why he is a threat to a party that (at least on papers) calls itself leftist or liberal & are so caring about women rights and all that fanfare.
If Imran is to be believed is that this is all because of his stance on Militant Qaumi Movement’s involvement in 12 May terror? If that is so, one can see the level of conservative thinking our fake-liberals posses. Baqion ka toh ALLAH Hafiz hai. I couldn’t stop laughing (read crying) when Altaf bhai recently supported a UN inquiry into BB’s murder. Will he request the same for May 12 ?
Everyone knows Imran isn’t an iota of a problem for anyone so what Sindh gov. actually wants to convey?
@REALITY
you bashed so long left right and center about IMRAN above but didnt have the guts to say the simple thing that is A WRONG WAS DONE @ an idiotic excuse.
Dude stop cleaning MQMs shit always . If something is wrong and you cannot say it , you have the right to not the say the wrong too.
Sindh gov. is run by a mafia & therfore this ban should be good for the man. Although the so-called democracy books say it was wrong.
@AMMAR
Suppose you are to be believed & so :
Imran is a media creator
Imran is a lier
Imran has no public say
Irman is that
Imran is this
Bring me the para of the constitution or law or ethics or social science or political science that stops his fundamental right of movement ?
As i said, you guys have no point to make on the topic, all you do is talk things apart from the point.
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Hardly anyone in Karachi really cares about this disgusting person (Imran Khan aka Playboy Khan). So why Tooth Decay is so worried and upset if he was stopped to come to Karachi. This comes to show that Tooth Decay is a biased individual belonging to Playboy Khan’s political party (Tehreek -e- Nakaam). He should be removed from his current role as an author on this blogg which is neutral and without any party’s representation from any of its authors. Tooth Decay has been secretly working to promote Playboy Khan type of mentality in Karachi. Hopeful Tooth Decay and handful of likewise people will not be successful to bring in the stuck-up Playboy Khan in Karachi and across Pakistan.
Tooth Decay, no one is stopping you from being freelance journalist but please be truthful and loyal to this profession. Fair and balance reporting will gain you respect among those who do not like your method of reporting as well as handful of people that do like you. Having fair and balance reputation will be satisfying to you too.
Tooth Decay, I do not know how politically savvy you are but banning Playboy Khan from visiting Karachi is unfortunately a good thing at this point of time to keep city peaceful. As anyone would know who lives in Karachi and understand the situation here that ANP (Shahid Syed) are already trying to flare up ethnic riots to malign MQM’s image in Pakistan and Karachi’s city reputation in the rest of the world to stop the economic development of Karachi. I do not know under whose order they are working to achieve their goals but knowing Pakistan’s politics and its bureaucracy they must have been ordered, probably by a group working against Musharaf. It is sad that a citizen of the country is being banned from visiting the city of it origin country but what if that visits would have caused 100s of other poor citizens to be dead and 100s of other citizens to lose their daily wages because of the chaos than I would say every sensible person will say it was a good decision. What would Playboy Khan will achieved by coming to Karachi anyway? If he was a real leader and really cares about people and their lives he would not try to come here and seek advice from his party before coming to Karachi.
Mughni Raza
They don’t realize what they are doing. Cause it seems kah sooner or later Pakistan kah people ko dosri cities main janay kah leye bhi visa lena pare ga…. Lahore kah loog khi main nahin aasaktay and Karachi kah loog dosri city main janay kah leye visa leen gay…… every would would be isolated
@MB – you are giving credit where it is not due. I was not aware that the Sindh government had a mentality in the first place!
MB you and me are at opposite ends, I am not cleaning anybody’s shit, its just that I dont like the man, and I believe he should stay away, a lot is happening around us, no need to create un-necessary niusance and create opportunities for chaos mongers.
As for democracy, who says we are one, we are in transition arent we? arent we under attack and in a state of war? Right now no mature politician is striving to create un-necessary situations which could lead to un-necessary / unexpected bloody scenarios. This country has had enough of that in the last 3-months its now time to take a break. For some immature ones it might be a forced one.
As for my advocacy for MQM, it will continue because, right now they bringing in even a better crop of go getters who will serve the people well and will get the job done. That mafia line is getting more and more boring and out of context, people are seeing bright young leaders repesenting them effectively and making a dfference and thats all that is required.
As for my advocacy for MQM, it will continue because, right now they are bringing in an even better crop of go getters who will serve the people well and will get the job done. That mafia line is getting more and more boring and out of context, people are seeing bright young leaders repesenting them effectively and making a dfference and thats all that is required.
Well, if Jamiat ould beat up that Imran Khan, I am not sure why the MQM ppl could not.
Reality Check – I have no problems with the development work done by MQM, heck Naimat ullah Khan did that too. But credit to MQM for trying to move away from the Bhatta culture [thank god] to focus on sweeter and better finds [govt exchequer - no harm in that].
But when you say ‘….the mafia line is boring’ Im surprised to see that comment from you. How short memory you have to have soon forgotten what we all witnessed on May 12th.
The problem I see with MQM, is they breed the ghundas, and they day God Forbid they are not in power, I truly fear for Karachi. In power its all rosy, out of power its all god-knows-what.
That is a situation I fear from this party, heck in my heart I say, let the sleeping giants sleep… They are definitely going to win ‘with the street power’ rigging or not granted they did spin themselves out a better public image after the local bodies. But I’ll be careful of the giant considering that its been biting around for long.
We may have different points of view But I continue to feel that MQM does need to be kept in check, and lets not shower them with roses just yet
ager karachi main rehna hay… tu jiye pakhtoon kehna hay.. LoL
These are political parties are a bag of sh!%&.
MQM shud be reined as its realy getting out of control. It has been the second time they have done the same thing. Doesnt matter if its the care taker (puppet ) govt.
All MQM knows is how to break the things like roads, provinces, cities, ppl
mian dandaan saaz
MQM is our last defence against up fedudal culture and pissed off up country immigrants
I see minor irritants with MQM (Bhutta, exiling IK but not beating him up, supporting musharraf ghunda, etc etc), but overall its a good party.
Yea its good party, chaudries kah saath seat adjustments karo aur fedudal culture kah against bhi kaho….
http://www.dawn.com/2007/12/26/top5.htm
It is good to see you people expressing your views and exercising your right of speech.
However, what is disturbing is to see you people fighting and taking sides, over what?
Each one of you is, in all probability a better person than the ones that you are looking up to and taking sides of.
It is absolutely shameful to note that we have been reduced to choosing between, murderers, cut throats, looters, deceiving men, men of ill repute and basically debauch and dubious characters.
From your emotional outbursts, it seems that you are willing to kill, for them. Disgusting.
Wake up, and rise above your petty squabbles and egos.
As for Imran Khan, say what you will, but the fact is, that he is untried and thus untainted. This is already more than what we can say for all the others.
Stop saying, God help us each time, he won’t. Don’t expect divine intervention. He only helps those that help themselves.
it was really good to ban him because i guess he had plans to exploit the situation in karachi, Specifically in regards of exploiting the urdu-pashtoon conflict. He always used to target non urdu speaking vote bank in karachi. I think its a very good step to matain peace in karachi. Further i still remember that he claimed that he will not return to conutry till the time British administration arrests altaf hussain – i wonder what happend to that claim :) – Imran open up your eyes and come out of any kind of ora and proudness – you are the foolest among all
mqm and peace are mutually exclusive.
Tooth Decay said,
"The problem I see with MQM, is they breed the ghundas, and they day God Forbid they are not in power, I truly fear for Karachi. In power its all rosy, out of power its all god-knows-what"
Karachi is home for MQM and no one in their right mind will ruin their own home.
I really wonder if you are a real Doctor. Also don’t you fear for Karachi because it will in save hands till the end.
Karachi has always been neglected and ruin by other forces. MQM is interested in building Karachi from very first day of its inception. Past democratically elected dictators such as BB of PPP and Nawaz deprived Karachi from its development funds. Finally city government was able get some money from federal government to put it for development.
fair enough, if am not part of a circus why shall i be allowed enter in the ring, to provoke people to abstain from attending the circus and destroy the whole public fun. – Poor Captain.
BY THE WAY GOVT OF SINDH ALLOCATED 100 acres of Land to Shaukat Khanum Hospital Karachi, – paper work is in process with Revenue dept. The land is in Metro Karachi Limits., Arbab Raheem signed the papers before sigining off as CM SINDH.
GA ALTAF
GA MUTTAHIDA
@IRFAN Galla pahro wahan jahan koyee sunay wala jannay walay behray andahy na ho, keyon apni aysee taysee kay pechay paray ho.
@mughni: do u write comics?
@jamal: ALLAH karey yeh shaukat khanum ko yahan kay ghunday khulnay dein aur un say bhatta na lein
I second the opinion expressed by AMMAR above at February 8, 2008 03:57 AM.
Exploiting the situation for selfish interest and ignoring the interest of people at large or for good, has no denotation to those who avoids confrontation and wants to live in peace and tranquility. Social boycott of such personalities is the right method to counter their illicit gains.
No matter how much you, dogtor, MB, and Badnan hate MQM and write against it, its not going to change the ground reality. I dont want to get into any de
MQM? you mean IJT(Islami Jamiat Taliba Haqiqi)? offcourse traitors are always disliked. when we can despise afaq and amir to form MQM haqiqi by betraying altaf bai then why not hate the traitor Altaf who betrayed his masters(the IJT goons)?
pro MQM kids should study a bit aboutt their "Bai" first before commenting on this topic.
AOA to alls
It is a good post and it is a politics talk and evryone say he is right but this is known Allah who is right and who is wrong.Imran Khan is a cricketer and i think he is a good number in politiics.I think it is a wrong way of politics.
Regardless of whether you support MQM or not, think Imran Khan is a "sex addict" (and who amongst us isn’t) or not, or whether Altaf Hussain is a low class thug or not; the bottom line is that no one should tell another citizen where they can or can not go in their own country. Everything else is smoke.
its all a game of full of shyt, the rich rule, the poor die, and the middle class try to survive…
nothing has changed….no chance for honest person like Imran Khan to come in power…my advice to imran is quit politics and get UK citizenship like Altaf Dakoo
All these others (sharif,bhutto,Army dogs,chaudrey and Altaf) have come and gone and didnt do shit. neither the ones that come after.
People die, who pays the price for their blood? the kid who works and begs? where is his education?
the light can barely be seen.
long live pakistan. Salams
err, good work ‘care-taker government’ – it seem’s the government really care about Karachi – to keep a scum like Imran away!
on a lighter note, Dog-tor pls, stop writing – you are not worth it to be honest!
MQM rocks..
Adnan and those supporting Imran, please know the reality that any one who want to have him is either someone whose some of very close relative is in Insaf Party or he has no stake in Karachi. if its the matter of Haqiqi, better you know whether they formed the Haqiqi or someone formed the Haqiqi and then planted them to be the cataylst of the killings of thousands of Karachi youths and destablising Karachi and Urbdan Sindh. Ruthlessly ruling some of the areas for 12 years with absolute powere to act in whatever they wanted was not able to make the space in the hearts of people. How many seats and how many people support them. The Drakoulanin days are not ommitted from the memories of the people. Every locality in Karachi is the proof of that time when someone was kidnapped and killed in extra judicial encounters. Who will take the responsibilty of those deaths. Why not our beloved bloggers highlight the missing people of Karachi. Why not our beloved bloggers want Justice Saeed-uz-Zaman Siddiqui to be the CJ of Pakistan who refused to take the oath under PCO. Why should Karachi fight for the agendas of other and why should we become the fuel for them if we dont have to get any thing out if it. Support for KARACHI and LOVE Karachi
No Matter who does what… YOU CANNOT/SHOULD NOT Ban anybody in their own country to travel from one place to another.
Imran Khan may not be the best guy around but hats off to him for sticking to his ground.
As far as the MQM is concerned… ahhhh… its a love lost. The shit is so bad within the party that they can’t even clean it up… Anybody and everybody who is even remotely associated with the party thinks they have the license to Extort. I have personally had several encounters either at the Water Board or KESC or Customs with the "party trusted" fellow who do not pause before asking for money.
Fact of the matter is, Karachi is in a spell. We can’t break it anytime soon.
lets keep hoping……
Yes lets close the eyes and continue disrespecting the mandate of Karachi. This is the best thing any non sense can do. How shameless and disgusting. For 20 years MQM is representing Karachi and people dont have the courage to say that they are our representative. Come on, be realstic and show the reality. Why do Imran need to come to Karachi, He is not needed guys. Believe me and he should also think deeply, if he want to have more disgrace then Punjab Univerity is a better place for him.
Well, if Jamiat ould beat up that Imran Khan, I am not sure why the MQM ppl could not.
Posted by: alam at February 8, 2008 11:02 AM
That’s’ true. Everyone should have the same right to beat up Imran Khan. :P
I am upset on Imran as he voted in favour of Hudood ordinance in blatant violation of women’s rights. This person has always exploited women one way or the other. This time it was to gain favour in his paindoo constituency of Mianwali.
Ammar: I am from Karachi. I was born here and have lived here all my life. All my friends are from here and have lived here all their lives. We go to work and spend time with our families. So, take the following as coming from who is a mohajir Karachiite and someone who loves this city.
We do not support the MQM. Stop saying that anyone who disagrees with the MQM disrespects the mandate of Karachi. We are Karachi and we are telling you, MQM is not welcome in our city.
MQM is ghunda and badmash party, but it is our ghunda and badmash party.
I love Altaf bhai, he is pyscho, but he is our psycho
the same old debate.
Guys give it up we will find out what happens on the 18th.
And AH, dude you form only a small part of khi, there are still a lot of people in Jhugis and stuff who still love MQM, and one example I will give you is of the Kemari Islands, they finally have tap water now becuase of MQM. Who do you think they will go and vote for???
There are more examples like these. Please appreciate what they have done.
As for you I am sure you wont vote at all. You sound like one of those that look at problems rather then thinking of solutions.
Now to mister Teeth Maestro, if you are biased and your family is linked to the Tehrik-e-Insaaf, please have some decency and avoid making such posts, we are not running your political campaign here. Who the hell is controlling this page and authors anyways. Isnt there a code that authors are supposed to abide to?
MB stop throwing 12 may in the face of MQM, they werent the only ones there. Everybody was responsible. Why dont you mention 27 Dec in the same breath as 12 may. I think MQM should have come out to control it on 27 Dec bec the police is and has always been incompetent. But if MQM had come out you would be making a big deal of that now.
As for banning people is confirmed but I dont rem the exact law but if you think some one will disrupt peace in a certain area he can be barred from the area, This is actually a law boys so learn to live with it. IK is nothing but a disrution to the election process and that is enough reason to restrain him legally.
WE support and donate some part of family charity to shaukat Khanum since it started and will continue to do so, It is a noble cause The Skipper started,
To be part of dirt n scum bags to be into politics and become an A SS wipe, was not by HIS OWN choice, – so no comments.
Shoukat Khanum Hospital yes we will support as long as we exist, Inn sha ALLAH.
@Concerned
I luv u buddy, u nailed it.
>>>I am upset on Imran as he voted in favour of Hudood ordinance in blatant violation of women’s rights.
if this is true, i spit on IK
"mian dandaan saaz
MQM is our last defence against up fedudal culture"
O really?? Is that why they are sitting in wadera & chaudhries lap, is that why they licking MILITARY boots?
Is what why they are cleaning Arbab’s a** ??
ALAM,
You are a psycho your self, May All the Muhajirs spit on people like you, Ameen.
You are a disgrace to Muhajirs (If you are a Muhajir).
Geedar kee jab maut atee hai to shahr kee taraf bhagtaa hai…
As long as there is no ethnic violence, MQM will vaporize into thin air. Their own acts will bring this.
They did a wonderful job in banning Imran, educated people of Karachi would realize again and again, who they vote for.
Good for Imran, he would be earning more respect.
Kallan saaand hogaya hai , niharee khaa khaa key. Oooper waley chamber main sirf kaley keerey rah gaey hain. Thorey dinon kee baat hai, woh bee qabar ain apney aamaal naama dekh raha hogaa.
Phir naa dhamkee chaley gee naa blackmailing, naa farishtey chotiaa-raagon main aingey aurr naa kaheee immigration miley geee. phir to basss danddaa hee hogaa aur dard-naak azaaab.
Go to the sixth video from the top on this page:
http://www.moveforjustice.org/Media/Videos/InterviewsandSpeeches/tabid/64/Default.aspx
This was an interview in Sep 2007 with Dawn and in this he explains the point about Hudood ordinance and his vote in the parliament.
I just thought it was only fair to post this here when the discussion has moved to that specific vote from him.
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Concerned: Ever think that you’re the minority? Also, I find it interesting that you are sure of what I will and will not do, considering we have never met. You say that I "sound like one of those …"? How do you know? We have never talked.
Lick some more of that MQM shoe my brother. I’m sure after MQM collects more power by killing some more innocent Karachiites, they will let you lick the other shoe.
He answers the question about Hudood ordinance after 19 minutes into the interview.
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He answers the question about Hudood ordinance 19 minutes into the interview.
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He answers the question about Hudood ordinance 19 minutes into the interview.
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He answers the question about Hudood ordinance 19 minutes into the interview.
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This mega clown, the undiputed leader of all parah likhas :), is sitting in london and crying his eyes out over the division of the laaaaand that was theee greater ehm the greatestt blunderrrrrrrrrrr in thee histireeeee of mankind :)
I am ashamed as a mohajir look the absconder Leader Altaf sitting in UK for the last 18 years and moving the people like puppets….. and look at the intelligence of the people who are dying for the idiot who is living in luxury. By the way what sacrifices has he given so far????
Are we really a foolish nation who has no choice except to accept the worst characters of society as our leaders?
ASA,
Majority of the Muhajirs who follow Altaf Hussain are parhey likhey Jahil who follow their emotions more than their own brains.
But the problem is, as soon as their is any one who can use his own brain, he is termed to have sided with agencies and is murdered.
People who blindly follow any ethnic party would be held responsible for the murders these parties commit, yes they can get away for right now. But who can fool , Allah???
I pray that Allah save the Muhajirs from ignorance and also save Sindhis, Panjabis, Baluchs, Pathans and Siraikis from Ignorance at the same time, AMEEEEN.
I am pure Mohajir, my mother, my father both are Urdu speaking. My Grand father was a doctor from Medical College in Calcutta, first in South Asia, my Grand Mother did her BA from Aligarh Muslim University, My all uncles, aunties are either Doctors and Engineers or CA, 3 doctors, 2 Engineers, 2 CA. My father Barrister at Law, My mother Dcotor. In my family we have 2 MDs, 2 Engineers from MIT and AIT and 1 CA. All of us are educated (i hope this is enough) and all of us always support MQM every where. Why, just one most important reason, they gave us proper identification and it is enough for all of us. We owe support to them and this will be forever. We hate bagarbillay like Imran Khan.
What is the meaning of Pare Likhay Jahil. If we want to vote to the best person and the person is from MQM you call it pare likhay Jahil, and If we start voting for Imran then we are really educated. Com’on guys Imran will only get the votes of people who are their office bearers. Trust me, Karachi will only grow if we own Karachi. All of you must think and see yourself who can be benefical for Karachi which Imran can never me. The World is more than the Shaukat Khanum Hospital guys. He should better concentrate on that. He is not needed in Karachi for politics or any thing else.
@Ammar,
Very well said man. Brother, stop wasting your energy on these stupid Jahil MB(the biggest mistake of his parents) and others. They belong to IK’s so called PTI and running his Agenda. This blog is not about Karachi because I dont think it represent the karachi. It has been highjacked by these morons and they trying to portray that karachi is against MQM..HAHAA what a joke..This city belongs to MQM and Only MQM and follow only one leader LATAF HUSSAIN…And this is the fact..
If you dont agree go around the city and see it yourself. If you still dont agree, then take a hike and cry on your girl friend’s lap because it Aint going to change…
YA ALLAH
Kitaab ko library mai rakh
Sher ko Jungle mai Rakh
Teer ko Kaman mai rakh
Aur Patang to Asman mai rakh
G.A Altaf
G.A Muttahda
VOTE 4 MQM
AMMAR,
I doubt all of your family members support MQM. Either they don’t know every thing about MQM or they just turn a blind eye to their ‘underground world’.
Just becareful, who you support. May be you really don’t know underneath the cover-up.
If that doesn’t change your mind, go to Houston. Find the family of Azeem Tariq ask them who murdered Azeem Tariq. I didn’t want to put these guys in trouble by writing this. But go ahead and find out.
Man, you MQM supporters love to write. Too bad its all useless propaganda garbage.
SIRJEE, its my family so i know them better. Since the first elections in 1987 (local bodies) every time whenever the MQM has participated in the elections, they have always voted for MQM. I mentioned the one good reason in my reply above and its enough for us to vote.
Ammar: If that’s enough of a reason, then you need to raise your standards.
AH, its enough for us, how much value identification and recognition has, my family members tells me. We experiended that from 1947 to 1986. We love this and we are content with this.
Teeth, hardly have I ever seen a not so busy dentist than yourself. Here check this out everyone…
First report of Imran Khan’s ban
http://karachi.metblogs.com/archives/2007/05/imran_khans_ent.phtml
SID was the one who posted the story but look how quickly AVAB ALVI aka Teeth Maestro jumped in and started the blame game.
SECOND report
http://karachi.metblogs.com/archives/2007/09/imran_khan_bann.phtml
TEETH posted this story and now AGAIN he has posted a story about Imran Khan getting banned. AWAB/AVAB (spelling?) take your daddy’s little agenda elsewhere like your own biased blog full of stupidity and keep it there and oh btw, try to get a life.
It’s strange how you remember May 12 but you don’t recall that thugs in Shereen Rehman’s car were also firing, how PPP and ANP ghundas also had guns in their hands and destroying cars etc? How come you don’t mention anything about Dec 27 when innocent girls were raped all night long, when retarded children and old people were taken up for a beating?
Are there no other interesting stories to post here on KMB? With all the development work here, is there nothing to be posted? Nothing special? NOTHING?
Take this madness and biased nature to your blog and keep it there and again, SPARE US WITH YOUR MADNESS!
MB you are so wrong,MQM’s relations with Chaudhy’s and Arbab have been much less than cordial. Muttahida rested control of the city and their constituencies from them after a resolute stand, Chaudhy’s and the Arbab’s had to give in. Before that Karachi was the favourite posting for corrupt Chief Ministers sent from Islamabad to distribute plots and compromise every interest of the city / province and do nothing else, they could not even find a constable to be recruited from this city, but that’s not the case any more.
Agreed, they are sitting in assemblies with Chaudhy’s and Wadera’s, so what shall they do? hang a pardah between them, they are not giving any tickets to Nawabs and so called Shurafaa, all they can do is set an example and raise the issues, its up to the rest to make up their minds. The positive is that the change in Punjab is more than visible and if our economy continues to grow the area of influence of the Chaudhry’s and Wadera’s will shrink, meantime have to deal with what we have.
As for those who think MQM will disappear, there is a reminder. MQM is now the only political party in the whole country which gives opportunities to enterprising, young leaders to show their talents and serve their people. Off the cuff I can give atleast 20 names who have done a fantastic job as Ministers, MNA’s, and Nazim’s . Not only that, they are doing things like training councillors in civic administration, budgeting and project planning / execution etc. Look at the amazing candidate selection process they adopted this time round. Yes, there is Altaf hussain, yet there is no one man show, there is delegation of responsibility and an overwhelming desire to get the job done. Look at the others they are clinging onto their personality cults and in no position to deliver even if they win by landslide, all they can do is conspire and malign.
Ammar, that’s the problem.
Teeth, in response to Zee’s post, keep posting.
@ MB and others>>>> You all live in a THIRD world country, where you do not have basic neccissity of life i.e like clean water,electric roof on your head but you all are talking about FREEDOM of Movement? Why a person who is anti state like Imran Khan Should get all his Freedom?The person is asking for Foreign Interference every time he Travels Abroad and talk Negative about Pakistan. These people should have no right of Politics in the country.Do not forget his days in Cricket, Was he not a dictator in his small world of Cricket? What is his Manifesto> Is he not the Person to get Donation Brings out Indian Celebrity?Him and like him should be DUMPED if we need to progress..Bataen tou Barri Barri bus Kaam Kuch nahee.Nil bata Nil.
Imran khan (great fast bowler)= High testostrones but low IQ
Not forgetting his contribution in opening hospitals.
bottomline is that mass murderers from MQM barred a pakistani citizen from entering karachi yet again,they’re getting bold at it,they’ve seen that they get kick the sitting CJ out of karachi and butcher 50+ innocent karachiites and then get praised by their mate in president house(musharraf) for "showing power on streets of karachi" ,honestly most these goons themselves won’t even be barred but they’ll willfully run away back to their base in london ,there are reports that these days Q league’s leaders are disposing off their assets in pakistan, while MQM’s leaders are busy occupying and disposing public parks,amenity plots,playgrounds and other assets of people of karachi …
Imran Farooq slips out of pakistan and resurfaces in London
http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/pakistan/terroristoutfits/MQM.htm
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/803/mqmabusivewallchalkingalg5.jpg
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/3918/4mqmabusiveslogansagaineq7.jpg
yaar who cares about Imran Khan? less than 1 % of Karachites (in my opinion) care about him. Actually Imran Khan has a history of bad taste with Karachi. In an interview, he recommended no international cricket for Karachi. Other times, he criticized the crowd. No matter how I looked at him, his (no love for Karachi) nature (typical of some lahoris) is evident. This is the only reason I say let him stay out of Karachi. Either you love Karachi or you should leave Karachi.
I agree with you that MQM should be watched carefully and I agree with you on what happened on May 12th. But I also see what happened on Dec 27th and Dec 28th where we Karachites have no choice but to strengthen ourselves.
May Allah bless Karachi.
Assalaamualaekum
bottomline is that mass murderers from MQM barred a pakistani citizen from entering karachi yet again,they’re getting bold at it,they’ve seen that they get kick the sitting CJ out of karachi and butcher 50+ innocent karachiites and then get praised by their mate in president house(musharraf) for "showing power on streets of karachi" ,honestly most these goons themselves won’t even be barred but they’ll willfully run away back to their base in london ,there are reports that these days Q league’s leaders are disposing off their assets in pakistan, while MQM’s leaders are busy occupying and disposing public parks,amenity plots,playgrounds and other assets of people of karachi …
Imran Farooq slips out of pakistan and resurfaces in London
http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/pakistan/terroristoutfits/MQM.htm
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/803/mqmabusivewallchalkingalg5.jpg
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/3918/4mqmabusiveslogansagaineq7.jpg
*they’ve seen how easily they got away with kicking the sitting Cheif Justice out of karachi*
No Sir bottomline is that MQM is the best thing happened to Karachi.They have also lost their party workers many times.
But this is not the time to beat the dead horse.
This is the time to join hands and work together for the common goals.
I (new member of MQM fan club)put full confidence on MQM. They have the pottential and leadership to make karachi what Cubans did to Miami, Florida. (beautiful city)
No Shahid, dont say like this. Doctor has been doing so much and googling a lot about MQM, wasting his nights and days to find out baseless informations about MQM and if you still favour MQM, he will commit suicide. Karachi wants people who own Karachi and Doctors party or school of thought is anti Karachi.
No sir, the bottom line is that a Pakistani citizen, whatever you think of him, has been banned for entering another Pakistani city.
Shahidusa: You think the Cubans have made Miami better? Are you serious? Have you actually seen what they have done to that city? Do you know that the high crime rates, corruption, etc. is almost always traced back to the Spanish speaking population of that city?
Who the hell cares what people like Doctor who is not at all a doctor thinks of MQM. They have been working like crazy and they will win the elections by a huge margin at least in Karachi.
Today Mustafa Kamal inaugerated two brand spanking new fly overs, ASKARI 4 and JOHAR MOR fly overs and they are KICK ASS and they will help EVERYONE here including Urdu speaking people, punjabies, sindhies, pathans… everyone will benefit from this and I believe that everyone who has seen and used the fruits that Mustafa Kamal’s team has gifted to us, should vote for MQM. They are the ONLY party who has ever worked for Karachi and Karachi’s interest.
Long live Mustafa Kamal. Because of him, I assure you that thousands of guys like me will vote for MQM this time. They have done an outstanding job!
Zee: Where do the flyovers go? Do they go to jobs or they just there for show? Has MQM attracted new industry to the city? What is it? How long has it been here? Have they helped make new power plants? Are the people better off than they were ten years ago? Is there less poverty? Less crime? More stability?
This may take some time for you to answer since you, Ammar, ShahidnUSA, PKhan etc. don’t have any critical thinking skills. But if you all put your empty heads together, I am confident you can come up with an answer to one of the questions above.
Imran Khan is the only man, who has courage against evil.
LOL! Who cares for the stupid fly overs. They need to create jobs, provide security and basic necessities of life and they are working on it.So let them work Mr critical!
Creating security situation one after the other is not going to help either side.
SYED TAYYAB ALI He is knowingly serving the interests of the greatest evil in existence. He does not have a bad word to say about suicidal maniacs, instead tries to provide hollow justifications for their bloody actions.
AH they are doing there job, i.e. to upgrade the infrastructure which was 50 years behind and at the verge of collapse. Contrary to the rest of the country, Karachi is working towards power generation / water de-salination, several new generation units will be online within a year.
As for the foreign investment as long as these suicidal maniacs continue to do what they are doing and people among us work to provide them ample opportunities to unleash chaos, as a direct consequence what we have now will go to smoke followed by a mjor brain drain and you will see a real economic deprssion. As for job creation I can safely say the carrier options now available to the youth of Pakistan were non existent a decade back, then your options were limited to becoming a doctor or engineer, getting frustrated and eventually immigrating to foreign lands.
And remember "If you build they will come"
Yes MQM has created job for thugs and cell-phone snathers
Before 5 years, people were not robbed in day ligh, but now they woman can not wear gold jewelery in Karachi. Just an incident happen to a friends wife. She was going for buying grocceries in Gulshan-e-Iqbal and two boys riding a bike took away her gold bangles at gun point in broad day light.
Why is MQM responsible for this? Any one who is in GOVT is responsible for this and if MQM is in govt, MQM takes the responsibility. DUMB A$$ Governor says this is the sign of progress. woowww!!!, I don’t know who gave him the degree to call himself a doctor.
Whats the plan of MQM to curb on crime? kill the reporters who report these crimes and tranfer the SHOs who write the FIRs. So low reporting and low numbers of FIR would give them a way to say the crimes have been controlled.
Hey DOCTOR thanks for sharing MQMs enlightenment, open mindness, open heart, "EDUCATED" and civilized face. i simply love this link specially
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/3918/4mqmabusiveslogansagaineq7.jpg
Imran Khan was critical of both Nawaz Sharif and Benazir Bhutto and always blamed them for corruption and all sorts of misdeeds. He welcomed the military takeover by General Musharraf and turned against him. He forgot his past statments about Nawaz Sharif and Benazir and joined hands with them. He agained turned against Benazir Bhutto when she made contacts with General Musharraf. All of a sudden it again dawned upon him that she was corrupt and wanted her cases to be withdrawn.
He once visited Nine Zero and admired the party and their organization. After sometime he turned against MQM and used foul language against MQM.
He divorced his wife and now has renewed his relationship with her. He talks about Islam and morality knowing full well that her former wife was having amorous relationship with a number of people. Pictures of her compromising photos were published on the web but Imran did nothing to take back his children so as to give them a good upbringing the Pakistani way.
I think that Mr. Khan should realize that he is a non entity in the politics of the country. He does not have a political base.
But it seems that as long as you are the son of the soil everythign is OK. If you are son of the soil you have the liberty to keep illicit relationship with women, you can have children without marriage and you can change your political position almost daily without any shame.
Imran Khan was critical of both Nawaz Sharif and Benazir Bhutto and always blamed them for corruption and all sorts of misdeeds. He welcomed the military takeover by General Musharraf and turned against him. He forgot his past statments about Nawaz Sharif and Benazir and joined hands with them. He agained turned against Benazir Bhutto when she made contacts with General Musharraf. All of a sudden it again dawned upon him that she was corrupt and wanted her cases to be withdrawn.
He once visited Nine Zero and admired the party and their organization. After sometime he turned against MQM and used foul language against MQM.
He divorced his wife and now has renewed his relationship with her. He talks about Islam and morality knowing full well that her former wife was having amorous relationship with a number of people. Pictures of her compromising photos were published on the web but Imran did nothing to take back his children so as to give them a good upbringing the Pakistani way.
I think that Mr. Khan should realize that he is a non entity in the politics of the country. He does not have a political base.
But it seems that as long as you are the son of the soil everythign is OK. If you are son of the soil you have the liberty to keep illicit relationship with women, you can have children without marriage and you can change your political position almost daily without any shame.
Imran Khan was critical of both Nawaz Sharif and Benazir Bhutto and always blamed them for corruption and all sorts of misdeeds. He welcomed the military takeover by General Musharraf and turned against him. He forgot his past statments about Nawaz Sharif and Benazir and joined hands with them. He agained turned against Benazir Bhutto when she made contacts with General Musharraf. All of a sudden it again dawned upon him that she was corrupt and wanted her cases to be withdrawn.
He once visited Nine Zero and admired the party and their organization. After sometime he turned against MQM and used foul language against MQM.
He divorced his wife and now has renewed his relationship with her. He talks about Islam and morality knowing full well that her former wife was having amorous relationship with a number of people. Pictures of her compromising photos were published on the web but Imran did nothing to take back his children so as to give them a good upbringing the Pakistani way.
I think that Mr. Khan should realize that he is a non entity in the politics of the country. He does not have a political base.
But it seems that as long as you are the son of the soil everythign is OK. If you are son of the soil you have the liberty to keep illicit relationship with women, you can have children without marriage and you can change your political position almost daily without any shame.
G.A. ALTAF BAHI
G.A. MUTAHIDA
G.A. ALTAF BAHI
G.A. MUTAHIDA
One of the commentrator has held MQM responsible for the rising street crimes in Karachi. I would ask him to do some work and try to find out the ethnicity of the people involved in phone snatching and other such crime. He will know that nearly all of them have Afghani, Pathan and Punjabi origin.
Obviously, this conversation isn’t going anywhere because, as everyone can read, none of the questions were answered.
I fully agree with Sulaiman, that majority of Street crimes are committed by Afghanis (if not pathans), Punjabies and sindhies as well. Very rearly you will find local youth is involved in this activity. This is my personal experaince. Every time the robber was of Pathan origin. ANP is the group of thugs and thieves whoe are claiming thier share from this city by looting the actual redidents of Karachi. And if any action is taken against them, they restore to firing and burning public and private property.
It is high time that there should be a sperate police force for Karachi to control the street crime in the city
AH: You are such a pathetic fool!! Dude, who do you think built the flyovers? Superman? Or batman? Or do you think it is made of made courtesy spiderman? Nopes, they are all made by a workforce, people, poor people who are totally jobless are hired to construct these mega projects. Hundreads of people are required to do such jobs, not only to build the fly overs but to make sure that utility lines are shifted, new ones are installed, roads being broken, new built etc etc
Are these not job opportunities on grass root level? Or do you believe that the term JOB OPPORTUNITIES are only meant for those who work in a white color environment? Dumb dumb!
As for power plants… MQM has been in power for the last couple of years. Power plants take a long time to be built. First you conduct a study, build damns, install the whole plant and then distribute the electricity. It takes time. If Benazir and Nawaz had initiated the construction of power plants, you would have been seeing the results today but noooooo, they were too damn busy looting the whole country. CDGK has already signed contracts with international and national companies who will be installing smaller power unites to produce 100-150 mega watts of power. I think these plants will NOT, I repeat will NOT help all of us but at least it will contribute something to some extent and that too within a year or two.
As for you asking people better off than last 10 years then YES, of course they are. The fact is that our standard of life has increased many folds and our salaries have not. Remember the time when you used to beg for a phone line, wait for YEARSSSSS for a demand note to reach your home and then wait another year or two for the phone line to finally start working? Now you don’t have to go through that, you use one of the cheapest cellular services in the world.
Anyone who is jobless these days is because he is either not willing to work or is not good enough to work. There are literally thousands of jobs available right now. It’s hard to find people these days and when you do, they want high salaries… why? Because they are already working for a comapny and are not jobless. Dude, get out of that rat hole of yours and embrace the corporate facts!
Don’t put MQM responsible for every little crime and thing happening in Karachi. When a blast occurs in Punjab, why doesn’t anyone blame PML Q or PML N or when a blast occurs in NWFP, why doesn’t anyone blame MMA?
Why blame MQM who is running a city that has all kind of crap in it? Starting from Afghans to punjabies and even somalians… they all come here, it’s a lot messier place. A place like Karachi is hard to work with than a place like Quetta, Lahore, Islamabad etc etc where locals are in fair majority!
Afghans, pathans, sindhies, punjabies… do you think EVERYONE works for MQM? Do you think they are all innocent goats and they do nothing? If you commute through public transport, you’ll know how much they care about you and how well organized their traffic mafia is. Don’t even get me started on cell snatching, drugs, weapons, bomb blasts etc
Get your god damn facts together and then try to speak out here!
SHAHIDINUSA: Who cares about flyovers? My friend, I care about… why? Well, I don’t want to answer that. If you really do want to know why, then come to Karachi and I’ll show you why and how it affects our lives.
Well said Zee,
I just dont have the patience to keep on arguing with these Dumb F**ks anymore.
Keep up the good work.
Wow Zee, you are the hero my dear. Stooges must be sitting together to discuss what to write next. Mate to them. Its enough now and now this post must be closed.
Finishing with a convincing note. KIA ISHQ NAY SAMJA HAI, KIA HUSN NAI JANA HAI, HAM KHAK NASHEENON KI THOKAR MAI ZAMANA HAI.
Moderator, can you close this post. It doest need any more comments.
AH
Who will you vote for then? Because you obviously think you are not what I initially said about you.
You really care about Khi dont you, so who do you think over the past 30 years has been the best for Khi?? Dont give bull shit give me names and reasons. MQM supporters have propoganda based on facts what do you have to base your decisions on?
Zee answered your questions, now how abt you answer mine.
And babe look at the number of posts done by teethy boy on different constituencies, who got the most votes by KMB visitors. This my friend clearly puts you in minority on this page as for the city MQM has always won the most seats in it not because of rigging. You cant rig the entire city, its not as easy as ppl make it sound. MQM still has supporters and all of them are educated, thats more then I can say about the vote bank of other leaders.
Moderator please let this go on for a while I am curious to see how AH responds.
Com’on CONCERNED, same monotonous comments will come, HMMM you are playing LOL.
MB remember it was not MQM who scandalized Imran Khan, remember the articles and photographs that were published when he first time entered into elections, they were all sponsored by JI and Nawaz Sharif, and when he married Jamima, who labelleld him as Jewish lobbyist, yes his current friends and yet he sits on their lap even after being physically roughed up.
MQM did not initiate this, they did not start the barrage of insults, on the other hand quite a few in the MQM hirarchy did not like the way the retorts were being exchanged and reigned in the over enthusiasts, thats again a good sign for the party. Always remember, though MQM has sufficient reserves of educated Middle Class top, it is essentially made up of down to earth street politicians and they act and react the way thats natural to them. As long as they dont subscribe to any screwed up ideology, continue to learn / evolve and reach out to others, they will be good.
I am quite surprize to see Qazi Hussain side by side with most renowned International Zaani Imran Khan, now where is Shariat of Qazi Hussain?
And more surprisingly Qazi Hussain coalition with Mehmood Khan Achakzai who never accepted Pakistan??
Good going Qazi Hussain you are with out doubt the biggest Hypocrat of this world.
The only problem MQM haters have is the mandate given to MQM by the masses.
If some one who was born in karachi or lived in karachi and hate MQM doesn’t mean they should impose will on the majority of the people of this city who vote for MQM.
In Pakistan we talk about democracy but we are not accepting the mandate of MQM ! WHY ???
Because MQM is from the middle and lower middle class ??
Shame on you Perhay likhay Jahiloo MQM have the mandate of 70 % of this city so let MQM rule.
Alleged pathetic fool here. Alright Zee, here we go. See the response below.
Flyovers: So, now that the flyovers have been made and the laborers paid, where is the industry? I know that I wasn’t as simple as you like (hence my critical thinking comment) so let me re-clarify: The point wasn’t that the construction of flyovers didn’t create jobs. Rather, the point was to ask that once the flyovers have been built, what are the jobs that they have created. Generally, my simple special-minded friend, flyovers go to and from industrial parks. Where are they?
Power plants: Really? MQM has only been in power for the last couple of years? Musharraf has been in power for seven years and MQM has been there with him. And, in those seven years, what industry have they created, other than construction but I think we discussed that above. Again, let me be really simple, as anything more complex than one plus one does not make sense to you, the point about power plants was to illustrate (hope that word isn’t too complex) my question about new industry development in Karachi.
People Better Off: You do realize that there are things more important than a phone line. Of course, you as an MQM supporter probably steal everything so aren’t aware of what the regular folks go through, so let me clarify: food, housing, safety, gasoline, etc. are a little more important. These are the things that the real people care about and they are, today, much more expensive without a corresponding (oops another big word) rise in salaries.
Last, but not least, unemployment: I find it interesting, actually not interesting but rather pitiful, that you think that the people who are unemployed are in that position because "he is either not willing to work or is not good enough to work." Again, I don’t expect you to understand this since you probably steal everything you want and consider that your full-time job, but there are people in this city who are educated, intelligent and willing to work but cannot find jobs because the jobs that are available only go to those who kiss the MQM boots (like you and your idiotic friends).
Anyway, it seems this has become a circular argument because I raise valid points and you take the retarded response route. So, in the interest of getting on with my life, since its obvious you don’t have one, I will bid you adieu.
Just in case this post did not make any sense to you here is the summary: You are a moron, MQM is full of idiots, and every argument you and your supporters make is wrong. :) See you on the other posts.
Alright this is for my MQM brothers who have worked hard to defend it here time and again. I don’t want to name them. They know I am referring to them & therefore I am just quoting them without names.
Back in 90s when I had some sort of support for MQM it was mainly due to the reason that I believed that MQM & PPP are the only parties with some ground in public, the first criteria to bring about a change.
As you can see, I am quietly openly against the MMA lot. PPP has now become Plunder People Party so nothing required on that too. Many have labeled me as an IMRAN voter or fan or something. Just for record I am not. I believe he is living in fool’s paradise. This filthy politics has no place for people like him. He is an idiot if he thinks he can change the minds of a nation that has been changed into a clean shaved Talibans (PPP, MQM, ANP, regional parties) & the bearded Talibans (MMA & MMA+) by evil ZIA.
That was an overview. Now back to MQM. So I was saying back in 90s when I had some sort of support for MQM for reason I mentioned. But with time I realized that it’s just a mafia of militants who run politics on fear. Their power comes from the fact that the poor/middle class Urdu speaking Karachiites had been victimized by BIG BROTHER in past & there was injustice in sharing resources which in turn forced these brothers to support MQM because they had no second option available to them. Poor Mohajirs were ethnically brainwashed to hate BIG BROTHER in every way (for right and wrong reason in right and wrong ways) thus to create a justification for terrorist like Altaf. So their choice for Altaf is not by choice in reality. On a given day they would love to see him disappear somewhere & replaced by a good visionary leader who really cares about Pakistan & Karachi.
Back to previous point:-
So well I was saying MQM was taken over by the clean shaved talibans. If you compare both talibans (MMA / MQM) there is a stunningly similarity between them.
- They just cannot hear anything against their leaders
- They cannot tolerate any comment against their ideology
- They cannot argue & are comfortable resorting to either bullets (MQM) or Bombs(MMA)
- They are masters at brainwashing people (by choice or by fear) for their ideology.
- This is proved from the fact that the age of die hard fans of both ideologies is between15 – 30, the best age for emotional exploitation.
- Both consider themselves as the only TRUE & thus not willing to accommodate any other idea.
- While one is religiously biased other is ethnically biased. See above comments where one MQM fan mentions his whole family who in every season for centuries (sarcastically) has been a fan of MQM no matter what. This is what Blindness is referred to in simply language. If I belong to a party/sect/ethnic/city etc. which has done something wrong I don’t have the guts to say YES THEY DID WRONG, I am a biased conservative who has a discriminatory personality and who is willing to just follow the same route no matter what.
- Earlier I mentioned that the MMA/MQM both cannot argue so they usually resort to name calling or trying to make fun of the responder. Examples abundant. Look at the way they refer to always-anti-MQM Mr. Doctor & Teeth Maestro. & one MQM supporter referred to me as MB(the biggest mistake of his parents). When they fail to convince you through argument they resort to personal attacks. They have this with us or against us attitude built in them & this has actually traveled from their TOP leadership starting from LONDON base of the DON.
I seriously pity the educated MQM brothers who follow the man in London who cannot beat a KG-1 student in decent talking, forget leading a party. I personally feel Imran Farooq makes some sense & so does few other men in that party but the majority of it comes from what we saw on May 12. The real base of MQM does have some good and hard working people in it but just like you describe a HUMAN form the majority characteristics similarly you will do so in case of a party & MQM has unfortunately made itself a publicly-acceptable mafia & credit does go to them ( their recent efforts include bringing actors/actresses/professionals to their party by force or by choice. We all know about the Salman Ahmed’s letter against MQM. I am sure we have many such stories in the making right now but lets wait. But credit to MQM for that hard work. Mere public support doesn’t make Hammas (MQM equivalent in Palestine) a political party; it is from its core a militant party, mind you.
Here are some picks from MQM fans:-
" It’s strange how you remember May 12 but you don’t recall that thugs in Shereen Rehman’s car were also firing, how PPP and ANP ghundas also had guns in their hands and destroying cars etc?"
Personally everyone including PPP, ANP & obviously MQM should be brought to justice for their involvement in May 12. I didn’t see you taking this stance, why? Your logic is because they were involves so we should be spared as well ? Would you , here, publicly call for a UN investigation for May 12, just like Altaf bhai supported the same for BB’s killing?
" Why a person who is anti state like Imran Khan Should get all his Freedom?"
Who are you to decide who is anti-State?. I could laugh at you for making such a statement especially when you are a fan of a party whose leader objected to the very existence of the land he is living in. Hypocrisy and Opportunism at best.
"The person is asking for Foreign Interference every time he Travels Abroad"
Please quote some links/examples etc.
"These people should have no right of Politics in the country."
Taliban thinking again. A terror leader should have right running mafia from London but IMRAN shouldn’t. I envy your mentality of ultimate justice.
"In an interview, he recommended no international cricket for Karachi."
Please quote some links or sources. If he did that, I strongly condemn such a statement.
" I just dont have the patience to keep on arguing with these Dumb F**ks anymore."
Hahaha……. See………that’s what I bashed about up there. Those who come from a militant background never have any argument to argue on, firstly. I understand your loss of patience dear. You cannot fake tolerance for long, even over internet forget in real life.
@MB – great , whoever narrated such detail to you must have a great insipirational value to you. :)
in past 3 years you never wrote such WISE, so am honorbound to say it this way, without any offence.
for me-
MQM – the base heirarachy is no longer existing, their ideologoy is maligned. The statements from London are no longer in the interest of Pakistan, let alone Karachi.
PPP – Its done and hijacked by CIA, Mr. 10% is pampered & groomed in NY to be HIS MASTERS’ voice when needed.
Others – They are not united within how can they be united to rule the country.
Religious parties – please listen to SAIRBEEN of 11 Feb 2008 at http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/urdu/meta/tx/sairbeen?size=au&bgc=003399〈=ur&nbram=1&nbwm=1&bbram=1&bbwm=1
which was very candid and Moulana Fazal Ur Rehman was imbroiled when answering.
If we look from an elevated sitaution at Pakistan from TOP, we are in chaos. The big DARK GAP of JIHALAT is overshadowed by Cable TV, Rowdy Media, Cell Phones, Internet.
What we lack is education, which is basic to use correctly of the above "luxaries" as elevating lifestyle of people.
If i choose to stay here in Election Vacation, I will vote – and suspend my vote by stamping multiple marks, so my vote appears as cancelled.
For me I have lost faith in the system, but I have not lost faith in community and people standing for people. System can not decline peoples’ choice.
"I am quite surprize to see Qazi Hussain side by side with most renowned International Zaani Imran Khan, now where is Shariat of Qazi Hussain?"
When Mian Tufail Muhammad (former ameer of JI) was asked about his association with Zani Yahya Khan, he replied I did not see Yahya do anything wrong myself. I suppose Qazi’s istidlaal re Imran is the same. Fact is Imaran needs Qazi/JI’s certification of a good Muslim even more after his ghair Islmai kartoots all his life now that he is in politics in Islami Jamhooriyya Pakistan.
"And more surprisingly Qazi Hussain coalition with Mehmood Khan Achakzai who never accepted Pakistan??"
Why? Qazi’ds party (JI) opposed Pakistan too and Maududi famously referred to Pakistan as na-Pakistan. What is the surprise there?
"Good going Qazi Hussain you are with out doubt the biggest Hypocrat of this world."
TRUE but what else can be expected of the party of hypocrites JI.
AH
You didnt answer my questions, come on man have a heart, I am dying of curiosity here.
ISI & Chaudhries staging one more attack
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/elections08/story/2008/02/080211_miranshah_suicide.shtml
And the man in LONDON will confine himself to the formal "izhar e afsuus" but keep on licking chaudhry boots & military boots.
Some one send a copy of a book on Nelson Mandela if the dumb heads wants to have an iota of info on what it is to be known as a LEADER.
Poor Mohajir’s were butchered like animals in 90s by military and this man has bargained the blood for his luxuries in LONDON. I pity the city we call karachi.
MB dude, I have always agreed with you that Altaf is worthless, but the party policy and mandate is good. There are still alot of nice hard working ppl in MQM and the main example is MK.
In the end these ppl help my city and that is all I need to know to vote for them. The way they do things doesnt effect me as long as it is for the greater good.
Dude you have to believe in something and have to work towards a goal, giving up and not supporting anyone is never the answer. also stop making every MQM supporter sound like a gun trotting idiot. There are lots of decent ppl supporting the party as well.
@MB: well said dude. Well said indeed.
The london loving leader of MQM is no leader at all. And MQM would have a hard time convincing anyone to vote for a party thats lead by the terrorist taxi driver who loves the good life in london but it too big of a coward to come back to karachi. The only votes this "biggest blunder" of a leader will get is from the brainwashed fanatics is whose eyes he remains the "supreme all wise and all knowing" leader :)
@ KADS
Altaf Hussain is one who gave identity to his community, He is a leader with out a doubt for urdu speaking people it is only Altaf Hussain who unite urdu speaking people and give them strength even USA accept that Urdu Speaking people or Mohajirs exists in Pakistan.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/pk.html
Ethnic groups:
Definition Field Listing
Punjabi, Sindhi, Pashtun (Pathan), Baloch, Muhajir (immigrants from India at the time of partition and their descendants)
Thank you Altaf Hussain for giving us identity power and strength.
KADS I have no problems with the sayings of Altaf regardless how he says it, the points he is raising are absolutely right and relevant, his references to history are factual too.
As for his coming back, I hope he stays put, this country has had enough of frenzy and excitement. He is the one unlike BB / Nawaz who doesnt need too either. To his credit, delegation of responsibility he has achieved in his party is nothing short of amazing. He is not a candidate for any office, so why should he?
As it is MQM is on the right track, with an exciting young leadership with their hands on the pulse of the people they represent, working round the clock to better their lives. More enterprising talent will be inducted in this elections making it an even better team. A team that can deliver to its constituents and keep the fanatics at bay.
@CONCERNED bhai
For your kind information. I did mention earlier that i had sympathy for MQM & mentioned reasons too. Furthermore majority of my friend circle is Mohajir and i trust them for their hardwork, sincerity, peace loving citizens & best of all NO INVOLVEMENT in any kind of militant activity. And Majority of Urdu Speaking population dissociates itself from the filth of MQM. Its just that they dont have any other alternate against the evil in CAPITAL. The young innocent College & University students are thus brainwashed for the love of the LONDON man. But its actually the hate against the center rather the love for ALTAF that bounds them with MQM.
Its not about being an enemy or something but i hate people acting like COWARD FANATICs and not accepting things which are visible to a blind even. Why they keep on trying to defend the indefensible? Thats my whole point.
Earlier i mentioned Nelson Mandela. Does the coward in LONDON has 0.001% of what it takes to be a leader? (Yes has all when it comes to being a mafia or DON something).
I truly believe if MQM could kick out ALTAF and the militant elements, they could be an ideal platform for change but some dreams will never materialize , at least not in near future.
I DIFFER WITH THE ABSURD ARGUMENT THAT THE PEOPLE OF KARACHI SUPPORT ALTAF HUSSAIN AND/OR THE MQM BECAUSE OF NOT HAVING A CHOICE OR FOR THE LOVE OF ALTAF HUSSAIN.
MOST OF THEM VOTE FOR THE MQM AS THEY ARE SCARED OF HIM AND HIS FASCIST PARTY.
AND THE SO CALLED LIBERALS WHO JOIN MQM DO IT TO SERVE THEIR OWN VESTED INTERESTS….
AND MQM TAKES THEM TO SERVE ITS INTEREST OF TRYING TO PORTRAY A CLEAN IMAGE TO THE WORLD.
PEOPLE ALSO SUPPORTED HITLER…PEOPLE ALSO SUPPORTED MOLOSAVICH…
HECK EVEN YAZID HAD A BIGGER FORCE AS COMPARED TO HUSSAIN (AS)…
AND SO DID THE KUFFAR’S WHO FOUGHT AGAINST THE PROPHET (PBUH) IN BADR AND AUHAD…
IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO TAKE THE PATH OF TRUTH…
THEREFORE HISTORICALLY THE FORCES OF EVIL HAVE ALWAYS BEEN LARGER AND STRONGER COMPARED TO THE FORCES OF TRUTH…
BUT TRUTH ALWAYS PREVAILS IN THE END…
REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME OF THE BATTLE…
TRUTH PREVAILED WHEN BADR WAS WON AND TRUTH PREVAILED AFTER THE MASSACRE AT KARBALA…
SO THE QUESTION IS:
IS ONE GOING STAND AND SACRIFICE WITH AND FOR THE TRUTH?
OR
IS ONE GOING TO STAND NEXT TO EVIL AND TAKE THE SHORT CUT?
THAT IS A CHOICE… I GUESS A DEMOCRATIC CHOICE….THAT EACH ONE OF US HAS TO MAKE OURSELVES.
BUT BEFORE WE MAKE A CHOICE I WOULD HUMBLY REQUEST ALL TO READ "SURAH MUNAFEQUN"
@CONCERNED
" But the party policy and mandate is good. . . ."
Bring me a political party among 180 odd nations in 6 billion whose policy on paper is bad?
Is that even a point to make really?
JUSTICE SEEKER very well mentioned YAZID & HUSSAIN. Those fake-liberals tell me, would YAZID not beat HUSSAIN in a democratic setup, if its all about winning seats and counting heads?
All those people who argue on figures when they mention MQMs popularity go dead-silent against above argument.
FULL STOP.
Just for record, this is from wikipedia.
"Hitler was a gifted orator who captivated many with his beating of the lectern and growling, emotional speech. He honed his skills by giving speeches to soldiers during 1919 and 1920. He had an ability to tell people what they wanted to hear (the stab-in-the-back, the Jewish-Marxists, Versailles). Over time Hitler perfected his delivery by rehearsing in front of mirrors and carefully choreographing his display of emotions with the message he was trying to convey. Munitions minister and architect Albert Speer, who may have known Hitler as well as anyone, said that Hitler was above all else an actor."
And my friends REALITY,IMRAN and all known very well why i have copied this para.
Pathetic fools with absolute zero brain power!
So, you ignorant people (MQM THUGS), call him playboy khan, hmm.. interesting, but how can you not, since your leader who seems to care a lot of you people & our great country Pakistan, is sitting in London, enjoying a lavish lifestyle, with the money that belongs to the people of karachi (ofcourse, by all ur "bhatta’s" & stolen cell phones etc) was / is an angel sent by God who has never even looked a woman let alone raping one…
REALITY CHECK: Everyone knows what that altaf hussain used to do with women when he was living in karachi, & how MQM thugs used to rape women etc… anyway, i would rather not get into ur lame argument of trying to prove Mr. Altaf Hussain (Read: THUG, RAPIST etc) innocent.
The fact is , MQM is scared of Imran Khan, & not only MQM, infact all this caretaker govt., including MUSH, the Chaudhry’s etc, since they have no logical explainations and answers to anything. What happened on the 12th of May, everyone saw who was behind it. But this time thanks to the MEDIA, MQM was exposed. Since the day MQM was formed, they have been ruining this great city of Karachi. There have been a lot of 12th May’s before, but this time, like i said thanks to the Media, they got exposed.
If your leader loves this city so much, why doesnt he come back? whats up with him, proudly showing a picture of his British passport, with an ugly dog face smile on his face. Get real people.. you cant ignore the facts.
Secondly, Imran Khan is the only politician in this country who is fighthing & stand up for principles. By participating in these fraud elections, or may i say selection, all the political parties are stabbing the struggle of the lawyers & the chief justice on their back!
Secondly, if you call Imran Khan a playboy etc, first of all even if he was, that was the past. Hey, look at the examples in the Islamic History, there have been numerous sahabi’s who used to live inteh world of sin, & when they converted to Islam, did our prophet ever speak about their sinful past? although they were not even muslims, they were jews, christians etc etc…
What bloody hypocrytes all you haters are, who cant face the reality & cannot accept the fact that there is this One person in the country who wants to establish a rule of law in the country where everyone gets equal justice & every citizen of Pakistan gets their basic rights.
The fact is that, all you thugs & other people are scared of the fact, that once there is justice & rule of law, your corruption & badmashi wont be tolerated & ur so called PIR SAHAB will be behind bars.
As far as the popularity of MQM is concerned you cant judge it by the number of votes they get. Even Hitler got the highest majority of supporters… reason being: he was a tyrant & people were scared…its the same with MQM, people are scared of them. I have been to MQM jalsa’s & it is unbelievable the kind of crap that happens there & the guy speaks from LOMDON, & all he talks is shit.
Look at the history of mankind. Every idealist had been labeled as a fool. But it has always been a idealist & a dreamer who has brought a change for the betterment of society. People with vision have brough a change, not people with guns & thugs like MQM. Look at MQM’s history… PTI does not believe in Militancy LIke ALtaf, & who are you or anyone to declare Imran anti-state… There is not a single curroption charge against him, he is not sitting in london. trying to prove how much he loves karachi (like altaf), Imran has no case against him, nothing…
if you look at the facts regading MQM, PPP & PML-Q, & N, MUSH etc, it is quite obvious that these people can be termed Anti-state. All these people have corruption cases against them. MUSH & his allies have gone against the constitution, they are the ones who have their militant wing in their parties to kill & loot people. Imran doesnt, since PTI does not want any bloodshed & PTI is anti-violence….
As far as stopping Imran or for that matter anyone from going to any part of the country is concerned, it is against the law. Read the constitution first…..
Y is only Imran stopped from coming? why not the other APDM leaders… simple because you guys are scared, as when imran speaks he speaks logic & the truth which you guys cannot handle.
the lame reason given by the govt: Imran will cause disrupt & chaos in the city… haha.. now thats a funny, PTI has never been a party who does politics of violence, like a lot of other political parties who kill their own country men just for their personl gain & unlike MUSHY, who had raised both hands & said "we have shown uour power in karachi" while the city was bleeding…. this clearly shows, that all the establishment is against us bull shit MQM talks about, is crap. MQM was created by the establishment & it is run by the establishment.
Basically, Imran is the only leader in Pakistan who stoof up for whats right & filed a case against ALTAF, sicne no-one is paksitan had the guts to do that.. & that is the only reason they govt. stops him. They have taken it to a personal level, instead of looking at whats best for the country.
Once again, Who is anti-state now?
Policemen baton charging women, arresting national hero’s , government killing the judiciary & placing puppet judges to make all their illegal acts legal..
Is that an "enlightened moderated" pakistan?
The fact is that Imran is the only leader who wants Pakistan into a welfare state, where there is an independent judiciary, equal treatment for the rich & the poor, quality education for all, & most of all self esteem! We must make our economy a development bsaed economy not an economy based only on national security…
People who think he is naive & lives in a fool’s paradise & he cant do anything… will one day see inshAllah.. what he has been talkina bout & who is the fool then…
Instead of stopping him from coming to karachi, & people supporting their decision, we should all support the guy in his struggle. What he is talking about is for all you people, every single Pakistani. Dont hate, without knowing the facts. Broaden your vision & understand what the guy is saying! PTI is not about politics of power like other parties, PTI is about POLITICS OF CHANGE (for the good), PTI is Justice for all!
I hope & pray that all of you will be guided to the right path soon inshAllah & stop living this ignorant life & stop supporting the tyrant sitting in london & the other sitting in islamabad!
PEACE!
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD!
I’d like to add further:
I’m Urdu Speaking & i am a mohajir too… it is my democratic right to call myself a muhajir. BUT in no way i support the MQM, The fact of the matter is, that the Muhajir Community has been hijacked by these mafia thugs MQM who have done nothing but brought a bad name to us muhajirs…
i think my previous post couldnt make cause of loadshedding, the computer went off.. haha..
The above post is addition to the following:
So, you ignorant people (MQM THUGS), call him playboy khan, hmm.. interesting, but how can you not, since your leader who seems to care a lot of you people & our great country Pakistan, is sitting in London, enjoying a lavish lifestyle, with the money that belongs to the people of karachi (ofcourse, by all ur "bhatta’s" & stolen cell phones etc) was / is an angel sent by God who has never even looked a woman let alone raping one…
REALITY CHECK: Everyone knows what that altaf hussain used to do with women when he was living in karachi, & how MQM thugs used to rape women etc… anyway, i would rather not get into ur lame argument of trying to prove Mr. Altaf Hussain (Read: THUG, RAPIST etc) innocent.
The fact is , MQM is scared of Imran Khan, & not only MQM, infact all this caretaker govt., including MUSH, the Chaudhry’s etc, since they have no logical explainations and answers to anything. What happened on the 12th of May, everyone saw who was behind it. But this time thanks to the MEDIA, MQM was exposed. Since the day MQM was formed, they have been ruining this great city of Karachi. There have been a lot of 12th May’s before, but this time, like i said thanks to the Media, they got exposed.
If your leader loves this city so much, why doesnt he come back? whats up with him, proudly showing a picture of his British passport, with an ugly dog face smile on his face. Get real people.. you cant ignore the facts.
Secondly, Imran Khan is the only politician in this country who is fighthing & stand up for principles. By participating in these fraud elections, or may i say selection, all the political parties are stabbing the struggle of the lawyers & the chief justice on their back!
Secondly, if you call Imran Khan a playboy etc, first of all even if he was, that was the past. Hey, look at the examples in the Islamic History, there have been numerous sahabi’s who used to live inteh world of sin, & when they converted to Islam, did our prophet ever speak about their sinful past? although they were not even muslims, they were jews, christians etc etc…
What bloody hypocrytes all you haters are, who cant face the reality & cannot accept the fact that there is this One person in the country who wants to establish a rule of law in the country where everyone gets equal justice & every citizen of Pakistan gets their basic rights.
The fact is that, all you thugs & other people are scared of the fact, that once there is justice & rule of law, your corruption & badmashi wont be tolerated & ur so called PIR SAHAB will be behind bars.
As far as the popularity of MQM is concerned you cant judge it by the number of votes they get. Even Hitler got the highest majority of supporters… reason being: he was a tyrant & people were scared…its the same with MQM, people are scared of them. I have been to MQM jalsa’s & it is unbelievable the kind of crap that happens there & the guy speaks from LOMDON, & all he talks is shit.
Look at the history of mankind. Every idealist had been labeled as a fool. But it has always been a idealist & a dreamer who has brought a change for the betterment of society. People with vision have brough a change, not people with guns & thugs like MQM. Look at MQM’s history… PTI does not believe in Militancy LIke ALtaf, & who are you or anyone to declare Imran anti-state… There is not a single curroption charge against him, he is not sitting in london. trying to prove how much he loves karachi (like altaf), Imran has no case against him, nothing…
if you look at the facts regading MQM, PPP & PML-Q, & N, MUSH etc, it is quite obvious that these people can be termed Anti-state. All these people have corruption cases against them. MUSH & his allies have gone against the constitution, they are the ones who have their militant wing in their parties to kill & loot people. Imran doesnt, since PTI does not want any bloodshed & PTI is anti-violence….
As far as stopping Imran or for that matter anyone from going to any part of the country is concerned, it is against the law. Read the constitution first…..
Y is only Imran stopped from coming? why not the other APDM leaders… simple because you guys are scared, as when imran speaks he speaks logic & the truth which you guys cannot handle.
the lame reason given by the govt: Imran will cause disrupt & chaos in the city… haha.. now thats a funny, PTI has never been a party who does politics of violence, like a lot of other political parties who kill their own country men just for their personl gain & unlike MUSHY, who had raised both hands & said "we have shown uour power in karachi" while the city was bleeding…. this clearly shows, that all the establishment is against us bull shit MQM talks about, is crap. MQM was created by the establishment & it is run by the establishment.
Basically, Imran is the only leader in Pakistan who stoof up for whats right & filed a case against ALTAF, sicne no-one is paksitan had the guts to do that.. & that is the only reason they govt. stops him. They have taken it to a personal level, instead of looking at whats best for the country.
Once again, Who is anti-state now?
Policemen baton charging women, arresting national hero’s , government killing the judiciary & placing puppet judges to make all their illegal acts legal..
Is that an "enlightened moderated" pakistan?
The fact is that Imran is the only leader who wants Pakistan into a welfare state, where there is an independent judiciary, equal treatment for the rich & the poor, quality education for all, & most of all self esteem! We must make our economy a development bsaed economy not an economy based only on national security…
People who think he is naive & lives in a fool’s paradise & he cant do anything… will one day see inshAllah.. what he has been talkina bout & who is the fool then…
Instead of stopping him from coming to karachi, & people supporting their decision, we should all support the guy in his struggle. What he is talking about is for all you people, every single Pakistani. Dont hate, without knowing the facts. Broaden your vision & understand what the guy is saying! PTI is not about politics of power like other parties, PTI is about POLITICS OF CHANGE (for the good), PTI is Justice for all!
I hope & pray that all of you will be guided to the right path soon inshAllah & stop living this ignorant life & stop supporting the tyrant sitting in london & the other sitting in islamabad!
PEACE!
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD!
I love it when ppl talk about good and evil. Come one yar nothing is that black and white. Everything is gray.
MB
Altaf is an a-hole and agreed the party would prosper if he wasnt there.
I also agree with whatever you said in your second-last post to me, but I dont agree with your last one.
The one thing that is wrong with Pakistan and is the root of all things is inequality and that inequality has always been clearly driven by the quantity of land that a person holds, ie feudalism.
There are lot of ppl who have made it on their own but majority of the uppper class has come up on the basis of feudalism. They might have sold all their land now and may be industralist now but they were feudals a few generations back.
MQM stands against feudalism, and the centre ( ie Punjab) (as you stated in your reply to me). These two things are more then enough for me to support them. Agreed they could have been considered a mafia at some stage but they are trying to do away with that image and if you ask around Bhata has totally vanished. 12 May happened and I agree it was bad and it showed the bad side of MQM, but you have to understand the need to have an MQM rally that day was brought about from the centre and how the rally turned into a blood bath is any body’s guess. I wont say MQM didnt fire the first shot, becuase I dont know but they werent the only ones firing.
I will vote for MQM because I am afraid of what PPP, ANP and JI will do to this city. We all saw 27 Dec who was responsible for that, it sure as hell wasnt MQM that is certain. PPP, ANP dont have a stake in the city like we do, we want it to prosper becuase we will gain from that, even if its in the form of Kick backs, and by we I mean MQM.
As for JI, I am sorry but I am not willing to let them convert Khi in Peshawar, have you seen what these ppl have done to NWFP. They are the root cause of the terrorism you see today but the stupid public still votes for them.
In the end who else do you vote for?
PPl quote that the turnout in Khi was low in previous elections, that was bec ppl are disillusioned they dont know whats good and whats bad or they just dont care. If you dont vote means you have no right to criticise either.
Just vote for the best possible option available. It might be different for you but for the reasons above its MQM for me.
And for the record I have never fired a gun, burned a car, stolen anything and I am not a terrorist, I am an educated middle class guy who still thinks Khi is the best city in the world.
CONCERNED AND MB Agreed with you both, however, as long as Altaf Hussain stays way from racial hatred, or promoting any other screwed up ideology, I will not advocate his removal, simply because there is no need to venture into the unknown, especially at this juncture we are not in a position to deal with another unknown. As for leadership alternates, there are quite a few, Mustafa Kamal is good but he is not the only one, in fact he is not even a contender. Personally, I feel that he is doing an amazing job as Mayor and should continue the good work, it would be city’s loss if he is moved from that position. Running the party requires different set of skills and there are quite a few others who can qualify for that job, but now it’s not the time to even contemplate that.
JUSTICE SEEKER Yazid and Hussain analogy in the context of the present situation is as oblique as can be. I don’t want to ignite a very controversial historical debate by dwelling upon BADR and QARBALLA, but remember when it comes to MASSACRES and JUSTICE the hands of early Muslims are not clean, I would like you to re-visit KHANDAK and remember the tribe of Bani Quraiza, how brutally they were murdered.
Also I know that majority logic does not always hold water, because, "If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. (Anatole France)"
For now I am willing to compromise on less than perfect and render my support after weighing in available options.
MQM is acting like they own Karachi and have separated it from the rest of the country. Should Imrn Khan get a visa from don Altaf sitting in London to enter one of the cities of a nation to which he is a hero? MQM tum logoon kee shamat aney wali hai, lawyers movement is destined to succeed inshAllah, phir you will pay for May 12 and your badmashi.
Sorry Shuaib Imran Khan has not lived upto his hero status for quite a few. His predicament is unfortunate but for now its in every body’s interest that he stays put and doesnt cause any trouble, we have had enough. By the way make arrangements for him to visit Punjab university, its just blocks away from his home. He may also need a Visa from his Jamatee friends to drive through it.
Who says Karachi is separated from the rest of country. People do have short memories, not long ago this city was the one leading the rest in the rescue and rehabilitatuion efforts in the Earthquake areas, despite being hundreds of miles away we were among the first responders, the bonds then built are not easy to break, or are they?
All I wana say is, MB you are a Jackass!!! Now I feel much better.
@SHIRAZ
lol , your limited thinking doesnt allow you to say/do more. Happy blogging!! (commenting).
Imran Khan is the only hope! The only leader with a vision & the only idealist in the country!
it is alwasy the idealist that brings a change (positve), pragmatsm wont lead you guys anywhere…
as far as MQM is concerned, it was created by the establishment & it is run by the establishment. They were looters, & they are looters. I wonder where all the money comes from those crappy telephonic drama Mr. ALtaf Hussain, plays from London. All the tyrant has done is create more problems for muhajirs.
Thanks to the MEDIA, they were exposed on the 12th of MAY! there have been alot of 12th May’s before, but this time the media was there to expose it. NOt only 12th May, but apart from creating chaos, anarchy & terror is the great city, MQM has done nothing.
So, you ignorant people (MQM THUGS), call him playboy khan, hmm.. interesting, but how can you not, since your leader who seems to care a lot of you people & our great country Pakistan, is sitting in London, enjoying a lavish lifestyle, with the money that belongs to the people of karachi (ofcourse, by all ur "bhatta’s" & stolen cell phones etc) was / is an angel sent by God who has never even looked a woman let alone raping one…
REALITY CHECK: Everyone knows what that altaf hussain used to do with women when he was living in karachi, & how MQM thugs used to rape women etc… anyway, i would rather not get into ur lame argument of trying to prove Mr. Altaf Hussain (Read: THUG, RAPIST etc) innocent.
The fact is , MQM is scared of Imran Khan, & not only MQM, infact all this caretaker govt., including MUSH, the Chaudhry’s etc, since they have no logical explainations and answers to anything. What happened on the 12th of May, everyone saw who was behind it. Since the day MQM was formed, they have been ruining this great city of Karachi. If your leader loves this city so much, why doesnt he come back? whats up with him, proudly showing a picture of his British passport, with an ugly dog face smile on his face. Get real people.. you cant ignore the facts.
Secondly, Imran Khan is the only leader in this country who is fighthing & stand up for principles. By participating in these fraud elections, or may i say selection, all the political parties are stabbing the struggle of the lawyers & the chief justice on their back!
Secondly, if you call Imran Khan a playboy etc, first of all even if he was, that was the past. Hey, look at the examples in the Islamic History, there have been numerous sahabi’s who used to live in the world of sin, & when they converted to Islam, did our prophet ever speak about their sinful past? although they were not even muslims, they were jews, christians etc etc…
What bloody hypocrytes all you haters are, who cant face the reality & cannot accept the fact that there is this One person in the country who wants to establish a rule of law in the country where everyone gets equal justice & every citizen of Pakistan gets their basic rights.
The fact is that, all you thugs & other people are scared of the fact, that once there is justice & rule of law, your corruption & badmashi wont be tolerated & ur so called PIR SAHAB will be behind bars.
As far as the popularity of MQM is concerned you cant judge it by the number of votes they get. Even Hitler got the highest majority of supporters… reason being: he was a tyrant & people were scared…its the same with MQM, people are scared of them. I have been to MQM jalsa’s & it is unbelievable the kind of crap that happens there & the guy speaks from LONDON, & all he talks is shit.
Look at the history of mankind. Every idealist had been labeled as a fool. But it has always been a idealist & a dreamer who has brought a change for the betterment of society. People with vision have brought a change, not people with guns & thugs like MQM. Look at MQM’s history… PTI does not believe in Militancy LIke ALtaf, & who are you or anyone to declare Imran anti-state… There is not a single corruption charge against him, he is not sitting in london. trying to prove how much he loves karachi (like altaf), Imran has no case against him, nothing…
if you look at the facts regading MQM, PPP & PML-Q, & N, MUSH etc, it is quite obvious that these people can be termed Anti-state. All these people have corruption cases against them. MUSH & his allies have gone against the constitution, they are the ones who have their militant wing in their parties to kill & loot people. Imran doesnt, since PTI does not want any bloodshed & PTI is anti-violence….
As far as stopping Imran or for that matter anyone from going to any part of the country is concerned, it is against the law. Read the constitution first…..
Y is only Imran stopped from coming? why not the other APDM leaders… simple because you guys are scared, as when imran speaks he speaks logic & the truth which you guys cannot handle.
the lame reason given by the govt: Imran will cause disrupt & chaos in the city… haha.. now thats a funny, PTI has never been a party who does politics of violence, like a lot of other political parties who kill their own country men just for their personl gain & unlike MUSHY, who had raised both hands & said "we have shown uour power in karachi" while the city was bleeding…. this clearly shows, that all the establishment is against us bull shit MQM talks about, is crap. MQM was created by the establishment & it is run by the establishment.
Basically, Imran is the only leader in Pakistan who stoof up for whats right & filed a case against ALTAF, sicne no-one is paksitan had the guts to do that.. & that is the only reason they govt. stops him. They have taken it to a personal level, instead of looking at whats best for the country.
Once again, Who is anti-state now?
Policemen baton charging women, arresting national hero’s , government killing the judiciary & placing puppet judges to make all their illegal acts legal..
Is that an "enlightened moderated" pakistan?
The fact is that Imran is the only leader who wants Pakistan into a welfare state, where there is an independent judiciary, equal treatment for the rich & the poor, quality education for all, & most of all self esteem! We must make our economy a development bsaed economy not an economy based only on national security… (which here, means building GHQ’s & General’s Colonies)
People who think he is naive & lives in a fool’s paradise & he cant do anything… will one day see inshAllah.. what he has been talkina bout & who is the fool then…
Instead of stopping him from coming to karachi, & people supporting their decision, we should all support the guy in his struggle. What he is talking about is for all you people, every single Pakistani. Dont hate, without knowing the facts. Broaden your vision & understand what the guy is saying! PTI is not about politics of power like other parties, PTI is about POLITICS OF CHANGE (for the good), PTI is Justice for all!
I hope & pray that all of you will be guided to the right path soon inshAllah & stop living this ignorant life & stop supporting the tyrant sitting in london & the other sitting in islamabad!
PEACE!
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD!