Election Watch : NA-242 / Karachi – IV

http://karachi.metblogs.com/archives/images/2008/02/na-242-thumb.jpgContinuing the Election Watch Series NA-239, NA-240 & NA-241, we now have a look at NA-242 Karachi-IV.

Election watch on KMB is a short series of posts where look at various National Assembly seats in Karachi, we will simply short list the most prominent candidates contesting for elections and also take a quick glance at what transpired from the the 2002 elections to see the trends. Naturally we would like to see the metroblog readership also to cast your own vote, If you were going out to vote for one of these candidates who would you vote for?.

Take the poll

Free Poll by Blog Flux2008 Elections: Total number of Registered Voters 296,822 (175,408 Male & 121,414 Female). The three candidates up for elections are:

  1. Abdul Qadir Khawnzada (MQM)
  2. M. Afaq Khan Shahid (PPP)
  3. Sohail Baig Noori (ST)

2002 Elections: In the 2002 elections there were 221,227 Registered Voters in NA-242 of which 44.9% polled that day (99,335). The candidates were

  1. M. Abdul Rauf Siddiqui (MQM) – 62690
  2. Taj Muhammad Khan (MMA) – 18299
  3. Dr. M. Shakir Alam (PPPP) – 6593
  4. Abdul Ghafoor (Pak Muslim Alliance) – 3299
  5. Khanzadah Imran (PML-Q) – 1165

Prediction: Its not rocket science to predict this National Assembly seat- notch one more up for MQM. As per my guesstimate MQM is 3-1 for the seats up until now, with only NA-239 going towards PPP. Hence the predicted winner should be Abdul Qadir Khawnzada of MQM

We need help in identifying the popular locations within these electoral seats, and would appreciate any assistance from our readers so that these seat locations are better understood then some confusing roman numerical

40 Comments so far

  1. Concerned (unregistered) on February 10th, 2008 @ 7:11 pm

    Teethy boy, thanks for doing this, you can see a clear majority of MQM supporters on this blog.

    Or of you want to start blaming ppl for putting in double votes? I give you my word that I only voted once.

    Dont know if they will win but ppl here support them whther they admit it or not.

  2. AMMAR (unregistered) on February 10th, 2008 @ 7:25 pm

    Com’on CONCERNED, dont be so sarcastic. Teeth Maestro is there to check it. Believe me he is doing good now to bring the facts in. We salute you Awab. Be blessed. This is the voice to Karachi to which we OWN A LOT.

  3. iran (unregistered) on February 10th, 2008 @ 7:37 pm

    Just Vote For MQM !!!!!!

  4. AHK (unregistered) on February 10th, 2008 @ 7:39 pm

    It seems to me that Metrokhi is flooded with MQM supporters … everyone seems to vote for the MQM candidate.

  5. Reality_Check (unregistered) on February 10th, 2008 @ 8:18 pm

    NA-242: Karachi-IV Orangi Town, its a no brainer where this one will go, however, question is out of 20 Karachi Seats Muttahida currently has 12, last time they lost quite a few with small margin, this time they should get more, their electoral success will be gauged by that barometer. Their achievable target would be 18/20, they had made inroads in lyari, but after BB, the sympathy vote will ensure it remains a PPP stronghold.

    So 20-2=18, thats the number.

  6. d0ct0r (unregistered) on February 10th, 2008 @ 8:57 pm

    how many mqm is expecting to get in hyderabad?

  7. d0ct0r (unregistered) on February 10th, 2008 @ 9:21 pm

    also some one answer this BIG question.. whom will the MMA supporter be voting for… party might be boycotting but their voters definitely will be out on election day…

  8. Reality_Check (unregistered) on February 10th, 2008 @ 9:25 pm

    They should hold onto what they have now, which I guess is 2, however they were hoping to gain ground in other areas by fielding Sindhi Candidates, places like Mirpurkhas and Nawabshah, that would have been an interesting proposition but now sympathy vote is a big factor…..How big? we will know soon.

  9. d0ct0r (unregistered) on February 10th, 2008 @ 9:28 pm

    and how many candidates have mqm filed from other provinces..

  10. Reality_Check (unregistered) on February 10th, 2008 @ 9:40 pm

    Thats an interesting question, lets say 20,000 voted for a MMA candidate in the previous elections in which MQM candidate got 19000, the others include PPP and PML.

    Now the questions are;

    1/ What percentage of those 20,000 will vote?

    2/ How many of those voting out of 20,000 will vote for PPP?

    3/ How many of those voting out of 20,000 will vote for PML?

    4/ How many of those voting out of 20,000 will vote for MQM?

    Of course you are not sujjesting that MQM will not get the share of the boycott pie? espeacially when it has sustantially increased its influence in the Punjabi / Hazara localities of Karachi and people like Marwat are on the verge of loosing their seats to MQM.

  11. d0ct0r (unregistered) on February 10th, 2008 @ 9:53 pm

    are you seriously expecting mma voters to vote for MQM? elaborate abit am totally confused…

  12. RE (unregistered) on February 10th, 2008 @ 10:36 pm

    If MQM is truly loyal to Pakistan and Pakistani people. They must ask for forgiveness about their past.Why media has forgotten how Karachi was hell once. I am willing to forgive MQM if they admit their crimes and ask for forgiveness.
    I think many Pakistanis who lived out side Pakistan for long time. They all have heard in past years how Karachi was a scary place to even visit. And always this was blamed on MQM. I personally have heard things as follows: ( I have heard them only not witnessed. )

    " MQM will shoot men on their balls if anyone speaks against MQM."

    " I have heard they have asked Pakistani millionaire who is in steel business in Dubai to pay dues to MQM."

    " I have heard MQM has no mercy for anyone who voice against them.:

    " Many hate Musharraf just because they believe Musharraf is affiliated with MQM."

    Now many others might have many things they have heard. Now we are talking about hearing these things. This could be totally anti MQM propaganda? Hate towards MQM? or this could be true. My question is if this all is true about MQM. Why MQM turned into mafia style organization? Were they treated by non mqm people unfairly in past? Some say MQM was created by Zia ul Haque but got out of hands. I like to know if they are not what people blame them for why is MQM not clearing their name? Why Altaf Husain do not return to Pakistan? With all honesty based on what I have heard against MQM , I personally do not see credibility in Altaf Husain and the reason is there is something in back in mind that reminds me what used to go on in Karachi, even though lately he makes 100% sense and his statements are right on target for the interest of Pakistan, I can be wrong, can some one from MQM clear all these questions? A person can be ugly in looks but with good deeds noor will appear on his/her face and will become likable. One can be very good looking and very presentable but with bad record he or she will look ugly. My mom used to say " Bad say badnaam bura " meaning a person with wrongfully named as corrupt is worse than the one who is truly corrupt. Please MQM as a Pakistani you owe us an explanation. I do not want to see hate on this board when you respond to this post I want answers. and the one who blame MQM for all these things show us the proof. I have always trusted Musharraf and I need answers to keep on supporting Musharraf.

  13. AHK (unregistered) on February 10th, 2008 @ 11:17 pm


    There was a time in 1990s when if anyone even took Altaf "Bhai"’s name rudely was killed. My mamo who worked in a government office was killed in 87 on duty just because he was a sindhi occupying a offical seat in Karachi, they did not ask they did not say they just checked his ID and shot him in the head. Becasue of 92 operation MQMs mighty power was broken but since then MQM has re-emerged, if your saying MQM was mafia like then look at the 12 may incident. Where MQM delibretly scheduled thier rally on the exact same day the justice was coming to Karachi. MQM does not have a large vote bank in Karachi they only have a large number of asla.

    Oh and if you want to know about Altaf Bhais intentions please watch this video:

  14. d0ct0r (unregistered) on February 11th, 2008 @ 12:05 am

    ahk don’t feel bad.. i won’t be surprised if mqm sweeps all 20 seats from khi, it obviously got undue favors by dictator,governor is from MQM(which other governor in ANY province is from any political party),favorable caretaker govt is in place.. and Altaf bai is loaded with Arms and cash(his mega plunderers are working hard day and night and "earning" loads of money, they don’t have to survive on just Batha(extortion) money alone…

  15. d0ct0r (unregistered) on February 11th, 2008 @ 12:59 am

    15.6 % out of all registered voters in karachi voted for MQM in 2002 NA elections

  16. d0ct0r (unregistered) on February 11th, 2008 @ 1:03 am

    15.6 % taking rest of the 84.4% of karachiites for a ride

  17. d0ct0r (unregistered) on February 11th, 2008 @ 1:10 am

    mqm got 3% votes out of total votes casted countrywide in 2002 NA elections..

  18. d0ct0r (unregistered) on February 11th, 2008 @ 1:12 am

    mqm got 12.1 % votes out of total votes casted in Sindh in 2002 NA elections…

  19. Ali (unregistered) on February 11th, 2008 @ 2:26 am

    Jamati Doctor fiker na ker 17 -18 seats to is baar karachi sai hain hamari INSHAHALLAH

    People of Karachi Loves Altaf Hussain and MQM
    GA Altaf

  20. Shahid Alam (unregistered) on February 11th, 2008 @ 2:56 am

    DOCTOR – as the old saying goes – these MQM supporters are so blind that even if you put a monkey along with the Kite nishan they will vote for it.

    They can continue to fool themselves that they have majority, might be since these are not free and fair elections. With MQM its never been free and fair – its always been THUG vote – so when you argue about vote percentage ;) makes little sense.

    ALI & all MQM Lap Dancers – have you forgotten May 12th, the beating shelved out to you by the people of Karachi after that – it was devastating – damage control has been to forcibly thrown out all cases from Sindh High court -despite photographic evidence – GEEZ – is that too hard to forget the ruthlessness

    MQM is sadly not the favorite but the thugs will make the party win

  21. Shahid Alam (unregistered) on February 11th, 2008 @ 3:08 am

    Teethy stop licking up to these MQM thugs on KMB – who are vote punching away to show themselves being popular – they are always quick to switch colors and side – the minute they see those popularity vote soar they seem all get cozy sweet and nice with you – and when it starts going against them they will eat you out – be forewarned these are LEECHAR’S of the highest grade. They Smile when you are good to them – but the minute you argue (specially when they cant defend their London godfather) then they pull out a gun and say – ‘SAY WHAT’ – Teethy Dandaan Saaz Jerk time to wake up

    MQM will always be a thug organization, nothing will change, they know it and heck Karachi knows it. Karachi simply votes them since it wants to stay alive or else… the citizens will be served with a couple of months of May 12 – There is no doubt on that part and everyone knows how dirty it will get if the thug party is not elected into power

  22. Altaf Bhai Humara Hai (unregistered) on February 11th, 2008 @ 3:30 am

    These Videos are priceless

    Altaf Hussain MQM

    The Real Altaf Hussain

  23. Ali K (unregistered) on February 11th, 2008 @ 3:44 am

    @Shahid Alam

    Soo….who are you voting for then ? I mean, okay, lets say we agree with your point that the MQM are a bunch of thugs…then which party is the saint party?

    PPP? do you remember when they were in power!??! ppp suporter’s protocols with all their guards used to be all over teh place, harrasing ppl. All the stories of women being picked up in Land Cruisers. Even just with BB return, look at the PPP supporters. Just the other day this SUV with all PPP flags on it cut me off on the road, honked, their guard showed me his gun, and made a face, and then drove away.

    Even the black mercesdes S500, with the Junejo license plate, same PPP thugish-ness is starting again.

    MMA is not even a question at this point, and that only leaves PML-Q, and PML-N. Those who hate MQM, Musharaff, generally also hate Q, and Nawaz is an idiot, a thought generally accepted. The first one to run out of the country, and is ready to team up with anyone. He has no real policies of his own, just wanted to come into power…and after that, to build up his home town.

    If I could, I would vote for all the Mustafa Kamals out there, no matter what parties they were from. Just as long as they were making out cities better.

  24. Shahid Alam (unregistered) on February 11th, 2008 @ 4:02 am

    Well – thats the dilemma my friend – when you paint the PPP and PML in the picture as looters and plunderes little do you forget that MQM has been doing the same, infact worse. MQM is not all that innocent as you paint it to be. It far more ruthless then what meets the eye. I know it and you know it as well.

    We saw the same thuggery in the five years that we saw before – difference is that this MQM thug was gun totting in the middle of the city doing target practice on inncocnet lives, caught on national TV and no one was brought to justice despite video evidence. Where is the justice might I ad. PPP and PML were a little different, looters yes, but thugs not as bad as MQM

    So in true sense all are dirty. but if I were to take my chances the rankings would be either with PPP or PML. somehow MQM cannot feature as a party worth my vote, anyone but

  25. Shahid Alam (unregistered) on February 11th, 2008 @ 4:11 am

    But I must add hats off to Mustafa Kamal for his dedication – but the question is, do I buy into the entire package for one dedicated person like Mustafa Kamal – considering the trade off in this deal is that I have to elect a thug into power – I don’t think so.

    I might add MK is useless without MQM. But I think since the time of Naimat ullah who set a good example which actually taught MQM a lesson. to work for Karachi – I believe if given the right opportunity another leader can also surface who will be dedicated to doing the same job. MK is not the only one out there.

    But the big question will be if another party is elected into power WILL MQM allow the other person to work for Karachi? I suspect NOT since MQM has survived under this notion ‘me or no one else’ that my friend is called a THUG MENTALITY. And I accuse MQM of being a THUG since a long time

  26. Ali K (unregistered) on February 11th, 2008 @ 4:14 am

    Gotta say Shahid, while I do have my own beliefs and my own point of view, I gotta say I was very impressed with your thought-out and well-mannered response. I’m glad you didnt feel the need to label me as a "mqm thug" before starting your comment.

    You are correct though, all the parties are pretty bad. See Mr. Alam, the thing is all our views are based on our experiences. For those harmed by PPP, they would not like to see them in power. For those harmed by the MQM, the same applies. Its a battle for who is less evil I guess.

    I’m not the biggest fan of Altaf Hussain, not really sure what he stands for, and he honestly does creep me out a bit. BUT, I do greatly respect Mustafa Kamal, and what he has done for the city, and as he is from the MQM party, I feel that voting for them might be a good idea, atleast for karachi.

    But either way, lets hope the elections do take place, and that they are fair. No matter what party we support, I think we are all sick of the endless stikes, bomb blasts, and blod shed.

    I want my karachi back!

  27. Ali K (unregistered) on February 11th, 2008 @ 4:19 am

    I agree with you comment Shahid, Mustafa Kamal is not the only decent, hard working person out there. Although I do hope he has set forth a minimum standard, so future mayors and politicians try to atleast match what he has done, if not surpass that altogether. This country can be great, if only we let it be.

    Good night.

  28. Reality_Check (unregistered) on February 11th, 2008 @ 9:56 am

    DOCTOR You are forgetting, in the past it was JI and JUI who used to get almost all the seats from Karachi, who used to vote for them then? They lost their invincible position in this city by their own actions/ neglect and the trend will continue. It is also true that due to chaos of nineties and the subsequent infighting within MQM ranks / the poll boycott, they lost a slice of their vote bank to MMA and Sunni Tehrik, which is now almost guaranteed to return.

  29. Reality_Check (unregistered) on February 11th, 2008 @ 11:06 am

    AH and SHAHID your thug and goon arguments have been countered in this forum so many times that I feel it a fruitless exercise to travel that road.

    Briefly, the fact that MQM was borne out of a climactic period of our city / country when hundreds at a time were being mercilessly massacred inside their homes and standing in the streets, while rest of the nation watched the tamasha and did nothing, instead the cities control was given to the fully armed drug and transport mafia’s, who controlled everything from police to the Chief Minster. Those who stood up against this tyranny were ordinary students and street youth, they just knew that something had to be done to change the status quo. When the first unit of APMSO opened in NED only one guy had Desi carbine and when the first gatherring was announced, all other students orgs showed up that day armed to their teeth.

    A lot has happened since then, we saw a period of conflict, a virtual state of war, factioning, extra judicial killings and what not. The so called blind MQM supporters have come a long way, the youth are now mature men / women, learned from their mistakes, made enormous sacrifices, including loss of loved ones / torture and successfully redifined their goals and organization. Mustafa Kamal is not a lone Ranger, there is a dedicated team of thousands of tireless leaders and workers who want to make a difference and set things on the right track. They have not reached where they are now by burning Vax, very real and painfull sacrifices have been made and very real work has been done.

    As for apologies there is a whole list that is over due since 1947. Who will apologize for the millions who died in 1947 including Muslims and Hindus, who was responsible for that? Who will apologize for the massacre of a quarter of million Bangali’s by their own country men? Who will apologize for cold blooded killings of thousands including women and children during Qasba, Aligarh and Hyderabad massacres? Nobody even asked for an inquiry and MQM has not shied away from one. As for elections I have been witness to all of them, nobody was being herded at gun point in any one of them. there were Jamatee camps, PPP camps along side each other, people got their slips and voted and they will vote again.

    The fact is nobody’s blood is cheap, we should all work to build and not destroy, write now we are under attack by a very evil and ruthless enemy, which treatens to engulf all in a senseless marauding spiral of violence, if they had their way nothing will be left.

  30. Reality_Check (unregistered) on February 11th, 2008 @ 11:09 am

    AH and SHAHID your thug and goon arguments have been countered in this forum so many times that I feel it a fruitless exercise to travel that road, Iguess I ‘ll have to do it one more time.

  31. Reality_Check (unregistered) on February 11th, 2008 @ 11:19 am

    AH & SHAHID my reply is in the Moderation Queue ***** I guess it was a lengthy one *****Now I have to sleep….All that typing for …..YAWN!!

  32. d0ct0r (unregistered) on February 11th, 2008 @ 2:17 pm

    Ali so you’re saying that all those (84.4% ) of eligible karachiites voters who did NOT voted for MQM in 2002 elections are jamat islami supporter? thats definitely not the case, you just need to grow up and wake up to the reality..

  33. d0ct0r (unregistered) on February 11th, 2008 @ 2:31 pm

    Ali K wrote "ppp suporter’s protocols with all their guards used to be all over teh place, harrasing ppl." "Just the other day this SUV with all PPP flags on it cut me off on the road, honked, their guard showed me his gun, and made a face, and then drove away."

    i encounter some thing similar yesterday when MQM’s supporters procession was passing,they had blocked the adjoining road,which caused severe traffic jam at the intersection,they were honking,every SUV has armed guards openly displaying and waving lethal automatic weapons,majority of sedan cars had hooters and revolving blue emergency light ,obviously all of them were not ministers ,they were normal unit workers and supporters,and they all think they were "entitled" to these protocols and you talk about protocol and "harassing of ppl"

  34. Ali K (unregistered) on February 11th, 2008 @ 2:56 pm

    Well D0CT0R, as I had stated earlier,

    "For those harmed by PPP, they would not like to see them in power. For those harmed by the MQM, the same applies. "

    You just proved my point!

    Just because you felt harrassed by the MQM doesnt make any other party, like the PPP’s harrasing okay. All of it is wrong…I really dont get your argument.

  35. d0ct0r (unregistered) on February 12th, 2008 @ 2:21 am

    my point was that MQM is not clean either..

    And what about those who don’t want either of these thugs..?

  36. d0ct0r (unregistered) on February 12th, 2008 @ 2:26 am

    as for Mustafa Kamal,"young dynamic and powerless Nazim".. he is projected on the forefront,while behind the scene dedicated team of ‘thousands’ of tireless "senior bigshot bhais" r bypassing him and pulling his strings and MQM’s mega plunderers are busy minting billions.
    Naimutullah khan had set a benchmark and MQM had no choice but to surpass and outdo him,’he made x flyovers,now we’ll make 10x prefab flyovers/underpasses..’ but even in this process they’re minting money with both hands,working hands in glove with the corrupt contractors resulting in substandard work ,same consulting firm which was involved in sher shah bridge collapse accident instead of black listing it and taking it to task was assigned to design all important "master plan of karachi"

    these playgrounds and amenity plots have been occupied by MQM and alloted as we speak(work is underway n can be checked) atleast naimutullah khan didn’t sold off public parks playgrounds and amenity plots meant for public welfare…


    these things speak volumes of poor powerless nazim and his thug party..

  37. khi-wala (unregistered) on February 12th, 2008 @ 2:33 am

    thugs or whatever, atleast mqm has worked on/started major projects in karachi which other party did that? there are definitely many negatives, but you cannot ignore the work.

  38. d0ct0r (unregistered) on February 12th, 2008 @ 3:12 am

    khi-wala imagine armed gang of dacoits entering your house in the middle of night, your young child wakes up and sees them,but they quickly hand him his favorite lollipop which keeps him occupied and contented while they easily finish off their job and comfortably leave without any hindrance ..(and the kid is happy that despite they were "negative" but they gave me my favorite lollipop …)

  39. Ali (unregistered) on February 12th, 2008 @ 3:44 am

    Doctor !!
    your cries will turn into screams after 18 feb elections results when MQM sweeps the Polls.

  40. d0ct0r (unregistered) on February 13th, 2008 @ 12:08 am

    Ali and when you wake up the following morning,you notice that they’ve cleaned up each n everything while the armed terrorists are long gone and your innocent n dumb kid is still praising them while licking the lollipop …

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