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		<title>By: umair</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2008/02/13/more-power/comment-page-1/#comment-53181</link>
		<dc:creator>umair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I strongly think that effluent treatment plants (waster water treatment) is our present day solution for water needs. This is the cheapest way. No way can we afford desalination plants. I hope our decision makers take the experts into confidence before announcing grandiose schemes that serve the purpose of getting them popularity. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly think that effluent treatment plants (waster water treatment) is our present day solution for water needs. This is the cheapest way. No way can we afford desalination plants. I hope our decision makers take the experts into confidence before announcing grandiose schemes that serve the purpose of getting them popularity.</p>
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		<title>By: fahmed</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2008/02/13/more-power/comment-page-1/#comment-53180</link>
		<dc:creator>fahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ALI-EN

I would appreciate if you could give  a few links.  it would be a pleasent surprise if coal has turned out to be the cleanest fuel for power  gen.

but i guest there is a catch in this to!

maybe that is a theory stil, if it&#039;s true then the world&#039;s power gen problems would be solved.

but i guess it would be the most expensive one.!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ALI-EN</p>
<p>I would appreciate if you could give  a few links.  it would be a pleasent surprise if coal has turned out to be the cleanest fuel for power  gen.</p>
<p>but i guest there is a catch in this to!</p>
<p>maybe that is a theory stil, if it&#8217;s true then the world&#8217;s power gen problems would be solved.</p>
<p>but i guess it would be the most expensive one.!</p>
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		<title>By: ali-en</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2008/02/13/more-power/comment-page-1/#comment-53179</link>
		<dc:creator>ali-en</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ FAHMED

&quot;dear AH kindly note that coal is the worst polluter as far as power generation fuwl is concerned.&quot;

Correction: not necessarily. Although conventional coal-powered are terrible polluters, recent technology has come up with clean coal burning techniques (I specifically used the word &quot;clean&quot; in my post). Do a quick Googling and you&#039;ll find lots of links, and I mean legitimate links. Meanwhile let me see if I can post them up here right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ FAHMED</p>
<p>&quot;dear AH kindly note that coal is the worst polluter as far as power generation fuwl is concerned.&quot;</p>
<p>Correction: not necessarily. Although conventional coal-powered are terrible polluters, recent technology has come up with clean coal burning techniques (I specifically used the word &quot;clean&quot; in my post). Do a quick Googling and you&#8217;ll find lots of links, and I mean legitimate links. Meanwhile let me see if I can post them up here right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Reality_check</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2008/02/13/more-power/comment-page-1/#comment-53178</link>
		<dc:creator>Reality_check</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that all the current methods of power generation cause great damage to the environment, including, coal, thermal, nuclear and of course dams.
Until alternate methods like solar, wind, ocean waves and geo-thermal become viable we will have to choose lesser of the above evils. It&#039;s a catch 22, but we have to get going. 

The wise thing to do would be to adopt lifestyle changes, take queue from construction methods that were prevalent a century or so ago, that had better temperature regulation techniques than the ones we are using now, but unfortunately, currently our society is no where close to even discussing these issues, let alone work for change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that all the current methods of power generation cause great damage to the environment, including, coal, thermal, nuclear and of course dams.<br />
Until alternate methods like solar, wind, ocean waves and geo-thermal become viable we will have to choose lesser of the above evils. It&#8217;s a catch 22, but we have to get going. </p>
<p>The wise thing to do would be to adopt lifestyle changes, take queue from construction methods that were prevalent a century or so ago, that had better temperature regulation techniques than the ones we are using now, but unfortunately, currently our society is no where close to even discussing these issues, let alone work for change.</p>
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		<title>By: fahmed</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2008/02/13/more-power/comment-page-1/#comment-53177</link>
		<dc:creator>fahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would like to mention that pakistan has installed a 300MW nuclear plant at chashma for more then 1.3 billion USD!!!!! which is based on a chinese desighn which china has itself discontinued because of problems.

we could have easily installed a thermal plant of 1300 MW for that amount and the nuclear power plant has to be closed down for maintenance about every 2 years for almost 04 months. nuclear waste is another issue.

to top it all we have started antother 300 MW chashnup-2.

for a total of 600 MW of power plant costing more then 2.6 billion USD we could have installed almost 3000 MW of conventional power plant!

it just does not make sense.

just to clarify a misconseption that nuclear power is a safe and uninterrupted form of energy and would not be discountinued...etc  a few years back there was a severe drougt in france and acute water shortage resulted in the closure of most of it nuclear power plants as there was no water to be used in the cooling of power plants.

france produces a majority of it&#039;s power from nuclear plants. nuclear plants can not function without an reliable supply of water in sufficient qty&#039;s. if there is no rainfall and the canals run dry then the nuclear plants are also shut!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would like to mention that pakistan has installed a 300MW nuclear plant at chashma for more then 1.3 billion USD!!!!! which is based on a chinese desighn which china has itself discontinued because of problems.</p>
<p>we could have easily installed a thermal plant of 1300 MW for that amount and the nuclear power plant has to be closed down for maintenance about every 2 years for almost 04 months. nuclear waste is another issue.</p>
<p>to top it all we have started antother 300 MW chashnup-2.</p>
<p>for a total of 600 MW of power plant costing more then 2.6 billion USD we could have installed almost 3000 MW of conventional power plant!</p>
<p>it just does not make sense.</p>
<p>just to clarify a misconseption that nuclear power is a safe and uninterrupted form of energy and would not be discountinued&#8230;etc  a few years back there was a severe drougt in france and acute water shortage resulted in the closure of most of it nuclear power plants as there was no water to be used in the cooling of power plants.</p>
<p>france produces a majority of it&#8217;s power from nuclear plants. nuclear plants can not function without an reliable supply of water in sufficient qty&#8217;s. if there is no rainfall and the canals run dry then the nuclear plants are also shut!</p>
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		<title>By: fahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>fahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ALI-EN

indly note that coal is the worst polluter as far as power generation fuel is concerned.


it can&#039;t be wind power as the news report indicated that the total dbudget is less then 3 Billion USD.

4000W of wind power may cost more then 8-10 billion USD easily.

it is many times costlier then other forms of power generation all our foreign exchange reserves would be neede just for this project if it is wind power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ALI-EN</p>
<p>indly note that coal is the worst polluter as far as power generation fuel is concerned.</p>
<p>it can&#8217;t be wind power as the news report indicated that the total dbudget is less then 3 Billion USD.</p>
<p>4000W of wind power may cost more then 8-10 billion USD easily.</p>
<p>it is many times costlier then other forms of power generation all our foreign exchange reserves would be neede just for this project if it is wind power.</p>
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		<title>By: fahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>fahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@AH

Sorry, i meant to reply to ALI-EN!

@ALI-EN

dear AH kindly note that coal is the worst polluter as far as power generation fuel is concerned.


it can&#039;t be wind power as the news report indicated that the total dbudget is less then 3 Billion USD.

4000W of wind power may cost more then 8-10 billion USD easily.

it is many times costlier then other forms of power generation all our foreign exchange reserves would be neede just for this project if it is wind power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@AH</p>
<p>Sorry, i meant to reply to ALI-EN!</p>
<p>@ALI-EN</p>
<p>dear AH kindly note that coal is the worst polluter as far as power generation fuel is concerned.</p>
<p>it can&#8217;t be wind power as the news report indicated that the total dbudget is less then 3 Billion USD.</p>
<p>4000W of wind power may cost more then 8-10 billion USD easily.</p>
<p>it is many times costlier then other forms of power generation all our foreign exchange reserves would be neede just for this project if it is wind power.</p>
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		<title>By: fahmed</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2008/02/13/more-power/comment-page-1/#comment-53174</link>
		<dc:creator>fahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@AH

Sorry, i meant to reply to ALI-EN!

@ALI-EN

dear AH kindly note that coal is the worst polluter as far as power generation fuwl is concerned.


it can&#039;t be wind power as the news report indicated that the total dbudget is less then 3 Billion USD.

4000W of wind power may cost more then 8-10 billion USD easily.

it is many times costlier then other forms of power generation all our foreign exchange reserves would be neede just for this project if it is wind power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@AH</p>
<p>Sorry, i meant to reply to ALI-EN!</p>
<p>@ALI-EN</p>
<p>dear AH kindly note that coal is the worst polluter as far as power generation fuwl is concerned.</p>
<p>it can&#8217;t be wind power as the news report indicated that the total dbudget is less then 3 Billion USD.</p>
<p>4000W of wind power may cost more then 8-10 billion USD easily.</p>
<p>it is many times costlier then other forms of power generation all our foreign exchange reserves would be neede just for this project if it is wind power.</p>
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		<title>By: fahmed</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2008/02/13/more-power/comment-page-1/#comment-53173</link>
		<dc:creator>fahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am really surprised that my comments are being deleted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am really surprised that my comments are being deleted.</p>
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		<title>By: AH</title>
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		<dc:creator>AH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fahmed,  re-read my postings because I never said that &quot;I think that it would&#039;ve been more practical to use clean coal-powered plants right now.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fahmed,  re-read my postings because I never said that &quot;I think that it would&#8217;ve been more practical to use clean coal-powered plants right now.&quot;</p>
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