Organizations & their "other" Role

We recently heard a lot about Bird Flu while the election was our main focus but one angry KMB reader shares his views on Rangers with regards to their role which doesn’t go well with their professional task. I shall try to covert his views into a questions and ask if Rangers/ARMY or police for that matter should be allowed to do business, especially when we know the extra-edge they will get due to their position, & the formation of a class that then establishes its own interest & in order to safeguard it has to resort to some undue tactics (& readers know what i mean by that).

Guest post : Ammar
[ While going through bird flu related news item in todays papers, (see attached link) i was surprised to learn that theres is a rangers maintained poultry farm in Gadap town. I recalled the facts that that a number of hydrants in the city are also controlled by rangers, which no doubt are playing a big role in the painful r*** of Karachi infrastructure. Gone carnages of May 12 and Dec 27, this paramilitary force, originally formed to safeguard the borders, remained confined within their barracks (by the way most of these are set up in hostels and other buildings forcibly taken) while people of Karachi suffered. I think we must, as Karachiites, should raise voice to stop these atrocities. ]

16 Comments so far

  1. alam (unregistered) on February 22nd, 2008 @ 12:26 pm

    its time to kick out Rangers from Sindh, restrict army cantonment areas in KHI, review all DHA residences as to how they got these plots/houses and at which prices, etc etc. Army has become such a useless and haram-khor institution in pakistan, that sometimes ppl in PIA and steel mills or govt depts seem to be working more than uniformed aholes

    Altaf bhai, u listening?


  2. BZ (unregistered) on February 22nd, 2008 @ 12:46 pm

    due to to the business/money interest of agencies police,rangers…etc.

    they dont want stability in karachi,they do not want peace here bcoz if here is peace dan there will not be any rezon to stay in karachi and this is the same intrest of patthan and panjaabi here.

    these agancies r protecting the intrest of Panjabi and ***** pathaans.they all r protecting each others.

    y these agencies do not remove da mafia from Sohraab goth,Banaras, Quidqbaad,Landhi even they do not Patrol in these area.Y?

    this is a true fact.

    now all the **** pathaan and panjaabi on this blog will start against this just b coz such always karwa.


  3. MB (unregistered) on February 22nd, 2008 @ 12:55 pm

    Your high quality language (which i had to moderate) shows how literate, highly educated etc. you are.

    Please respect ethnic groups. You have many ways to show your anger, not necessarily the way you did.

    ** This is also a request to all others **


  4. karachite pakistan (unregistered) on February 22nd, 2008 @ 2:39 pm

    @MB
    the language BZ used was not appropriate agreed!. but the contents are true. i don’t know about Punjabis but I have seen the hatred of pathans against Karachi and its people. you all must have seen that video of May 12 where a pathan brother was openly expressing his view about Karachi "Hum itni aasani say karachi ka pecha nahi chorain gya" they still don’t consider Karachi as their home however they educated pathan youth is different they have some moral value but the quantity a later mentioned is negligible. I don know why people don’t understand the fact that Karachi is multi ethnic city karachites are no longer Punjabis pathan muhajir or sindhis they are just karachite and Pakistanis and that is it.


  5. Jamal Shamsi (unregistered) on February 22nd, 2008 @ 3:21 pm

    1st to MB – Then to BZ

    What you need to know is – That ALL Garrisons across pakistan are self sustaining mini- Towns having their own facility for whatever they can manage – be it vegeis, poultry, fruits, meat, milk, etc etc.

    Malir Cantt – and attached to it Rangers HQ Residential complex are maintaining such facilties within adjoining areas.

    – Ministry of Food & Agriculture (MINFAL) recognise Militray Farms & Animal Husbandry units as their subsidry. Those places are called Military because they exist in Garrisons, every 3 years all those places are auctioned to private contractors, who are suppose to supply 80% of product to garrison markets at subsidised rates and 20% to open market.

    80% at subsidized rate because the water & power supplied to them is at subsidised rate.

    About rangers & police in Karachi – Its over 5 years Governer of Sindh could have use powers to EXPEL rangers but he signed the extensions rather enhanced the grants, leased the lands etc… ASK Governer & his sponsors, and try to be reasonable when you open your mouth.

    The land allocation to Malir garrison is not of today or yester 1960’s, Malir Garrison exist in Karachi since way before partition, and solider bazar was transit point of rations – between port & malir garrison. – Here divisions were made to to stationed in Malir of SINDH or Bombay of SINDH.


  6. PUNJABIS ARE HYPOCRATES (unregistered) on February 22nd, 2008 @ 3:25 pm

    The punjabis attacked the supreme court in 1997 when there father nawaz shariff was the prime minister , the same punjabis now talk for the supreamcy of judiciary , why did the punjabi terrorists attacked supreme court ??? the punjabi pando prime minister nawaz shariff build the huge and moghty rivand mahal from the money of tax prayers , the same punjabi nawaz sharif attacked and ban the media and attacked Jang news paper , arrested journalists and now this nawaz sharif talks about the freedom of press , shame shame PUNJABIS , it were u punjabis who laid the foundation of attacking the judiciary it were you punjabi who laid down the foundation of attacking media and today these hypocrates punjabis are crying and shouting , if you view the history of religious terrorism and extresim in pakistan than all major Sunni and Shia millitant organizations were born and founded in the province of punjab like Sepha-e-Sahaba of sunnis and Sepha-e-Muhammad of Shais , this shows the extrimisim and millitancy which these punjabis have in there mentality.


  7. Jamal Shamsi (unregistered) on February 22nd, 2008 @ 3:33 pm

    Karachitie –

    Pathan is for Money only – You pay him right, get ANYTHING done, – I mean ANYTHING means whatever perspective of anything you can imagine.

    The MOST BAYGHAYRAT QOUM existing after Somalians on globe is PATHANs, Starting from ATTOCK and extending upto Border of Dushanbe in Kazikhistan – the locals of this belt are wild human full of GREED, ENVY & SLOTH and it is their genetic science.

    try it on Wikipedia.


  8. GA GA (unregistered) on February 22nd, 2008 @ 3:34 pm

    QUAID-E-AZAM was MOJAJIR
    MMUHTARMA FATIMA JINNAH was MOHAJIR
    LIAQUAT ALI KHAN was MOHAJIR

    The word MOHAJIR has even come in the HOLY QURAN when Allah praised the MOHAJIRS for migrating from Makkah to Madina……….

    GA MOHAJIR
    GA HAQ PARASAT
    GA HAQ PARASAT SHODA
    GA MQM
    GA ALTAF HUSSAIN

    Since there is a high probablity that N-League and PPP are going to form the goverment which means that there is a high probablity of 90s history repeating itself , but beware all punjabis and pathans because this time we have more power,money and weapons as compared to the past so you cannot even think in your wild dreams that what are we going to do with you in Karachi.


  9. Jamal Shamsi (unregistered) on February 22nd, 2008 @ 4:17 pm

    @ GA GA – keep Quran & Allah (SWT) outta this.
    – – –

    IN Broader perspective it is all about Existance of Pakistan, damn it.


  10. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on February 22nd, 2008 @ 4:46 pm


    GA HAQ PARASAT SHODA

    No wonder Altaf’s haqparasts are Shoday Baaz :-)


  11. PUNJABIS ARE HYPOCRATES (unregistered) on February 22nd, 2008 @ 4:53 pm

    The punjabis attacked the supreme court in 1997 when there father nawaz shariff was the prime minister , the same punjabis now talk for the supreamcy of judiciary , why did the punjabi terrorists attacked supreme court ??? the punjabi pando prime minister nawaz shariff build the huge and moghty rivand mahal from the money of tax prayers , the same punjabi nawaz sharif attacked and ban the media and attacked Jang news paper , arrested journalists and now this nawaz sharif talks about the freedom of press , shame shame PUNJABIS , it were u punjabis who laid the foundation of attacking the judiciary it were you punjabi who laid down the foundation of attacking media and today these hypocrates punjabis are crying and shouting , if you view the history of religious terrorism and extresim in pakistan than all major Sunni and Shia millitant organizations were born and founded in the province of punjab like Sepha-e-Sahaba of sunnis and Sepha-e-Muhammad of Shais , this shows the extrimisim and millitancy which these punjabis have in there mentality.


  12. karachi4eva (unregistered) on February 22nd, 2008 @ 6:11 pm

    G A MAHAJIR!!!


  13. starkcontrast (unregistered) on February 22nd, 2008 @ 6:40 pm

    Every Pakistani is an hypocrite. When your party is in power, everything is alright. When you are in opposition, the same thing is the biggest battle of the decade.

    As for the military garrisons, please note that the rangers do not enjoy having to moderate your bloody city. They receive orders just like the Karachi Police which also, btw, did absolutely nothing on those days. As for their business institutions, they are there to make money for the veterans, so that the general country’s money doesn’t get taxed to the brink. Furthermore, they are there to protect these institutions against price wars that happen in a capitalist society.

    While your hatred of everything army is great, please note that the hydrants, etc. are there because the civil government could not take care of them back in the day. Since the CDGK and associated bodys have become more competent, the Rangers have slowly eased everything back to their control (While their own facilities remain in their control, I will add that this is similar to the institutions in the US, UK, and elsewhere)

    What I don’t understand is why is KMB being so politically biased? We understand you don’t like the MQM, the Army, etc. Then rather then name this blog "Karachi" and make it every Karachiites opinion why don’t u just start your own freaking blog (mqmsucks.whatever/pkarmysucks.wordpres.com) and use that to convey your political propaganda.


  14. Reality_check (unregistered) on February 22nd, 2008 @ 10:53 pm

    Should they be allowed to do Business?

    POLICE NO! except for the pension fund etc.

    ARMY Yes! Why? Because we desperately need to reduce the size of our over grown army. Normalize relations with India, they no longer can affords a war with us.
    Get all that extra army into business and phase them out and eventually down the road privatize orgs such us FWO, NLC etc. I think Fauji Fertilizer is already a public limited co.

    Get as many people into business as you can, manufacturing, construction and service industry and what not. If army’s interest is tied with Business growth, so be it good for the country. Reduce the size of the Millitary to 50% in the next 5 years, no need to buy any expensive toys, just maintain a medium size force with a modern counter terrorism unit and convert the rest to reservist and let them do business 


  15. balma (unregistered) on February 23rd, 2008 @ 5:27 am

    I also used to get upset at fauji foundation etc, but now I think it is just similar to sovereign funds in China, Singapore, Dubai, Kuwait etc.
    As long as Fauji Foundation and Askari Foundation businesses are not subsidized by private money, I now think it is ok…. I am just getting old.. I can’t fight every fucking bastard idiot in Pakistan….


  16. Ameer Hamza (unregistered) on February 23rd, 2008 @ 6:22 pm

    Thank yoy for starting this topic.

    Retd. cols, generals, and majors are everywhere. You pick up the stone and you might one or maybe two!

    Today, I was returning from Gagar Phattak and happened to ask the Toll man about the owner of Toll plaza (Karachi – National Highway). No surprises that his seth was some retd. col, who happened to own not only this toll plaza but also the one at Super Highway, Lyari Expressway and near Gadani beach. No rewards for guessing how he got the thekas for all that.

    Similarly, in waterproofing business (in which I also happen to be) we have a major operating a business on four men, out of whom 3 remain in office. Only one man is for outdoor and yet that company has almost all the army related projects. Sometimes this company don’t even have to fill the tender!

    Pakistan Army zindabad!



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