Dawat-e-Islami

Dawat-e-Islami is a Karachi-based Non-political, non-violent, Islamic tanzeem (organization) which has its head quarters at Old Sabzi Mandi. As little is known about its work or its people, I feel that I should introduce it to the people of Karachi. At most people know that they wear green turbans are often referred to as Janati Totay (Parrots from Heaven). Many people also claim that they are not spreading true word of Islam. We won’t go into the merits and de-merits of what True Islam or False Islam is. Here, I would just give a brief on their activities.

Dawat-e-Islami was founded in the early 80s by Mualana Ilyas Atar Qadri. He started wearing green turban out of the love of Prophet’s Tomb (PBUH) which is also green in colour. He also asked fellow Muslims to wear Turban as a measure of love. It must be noted that our Prophet has also has worn green coloured turban (evidence: Green turban associated with him is at Badshahi masjid museum).

Dawat-e-Islami believes in strict code of conduct for its adherents. It wishes to see people praying on proper time, paying their zakat, and all the Islamic injunctions that are part of our collective heritage (and tradition). It also feels that the moral backwardness of the Muslim Ummah is due the lack of following of the tradition of tolerance, positive thinking, obeying commands of parents, and respecting elders as well as young ones.

Dawat-e-Islami is presently working in over 60 countries and they regularly send out Madni Kaflas (their internal term for groups of people visiting places to spread the message of Islam). Their main points of interaction are South Africa, Dubai, Mozambique, India, and Central Asian states.

People dis-agree with lot of things which Dawat-e-Islami people do. For one, there is a strong disagreement over the Madni Munaas walk on 9th of Rabi-ul-Awal. As these are only very young kids, people say the entire exercise is un-necessary. Another criticism on them is why they wear Green and not white or black turban. Well, every school has its uniform. Why KGS students don’t wear the uniform of St. Michael’s School and vice versa?

People also associate Dawat-e-Islami with Sunni Tehreek, which is a militant form of Ahl-e-Sunnah Jamat and is just like Wahabi-led Sipah Sahaba. Although Dawat-e-Islami is a Sunni group it has no relation with Sunni Tehreek and its founder, Saleem Qadri, actually broke away from the main group to form his own party.

48 Comments so far

  1. zenubia on August 24th, 2008 @ 5:53 pm

    Aren’t they referred to as "Hari Pagri wallay?"
    It’s interesting to note that the color green has come to be associated with Islam and the prophet, perhaps for the green color of Masjid-e-Nabvi. Although it was painted green much much later after the prophet pbuh. Before that it was painted in blue, gold and red.


  2. IUnknown (iunknown) on August 24th, 2008 @ 8:08 pm

    this post shud be immediately delted


  3. silversurfer on August 24th, 2008 @ 8:48 pm

    tolerance is a virtue IUknown … nations perish due to the lack of it


  4. tzaidi on August 24th, 2008 @ 9:10 pm

    @ IUnknown : your nick suits you, please stay that way.

    Nice post Ameerhamza, but I never able to understand between these Janati Totay and the jamat which holds annual RaiWind event. Will you please eloborate.


  5. HITMAN (hitman) on August 24th, 2008 @ 11:29 pm

    @ameerhamza,

    Islam is already in its worst shape in Indo Pak. Please don’t promote such groups to deteriorate it further. What is ur point by posting something abt the worst bidatis on the face of this earth currently? The hara hara madina & meethay meethay islami bhai rn’t going to help any 1. They r in cut throat competition with shias & every year they invent / practice some new bidat on 12th rabi-ul-awal. I bet the day isn’t far when these people will offer u to perform ur Hajj not in Macca but in Sehra-i-Madina on super highway.

    & what exactly is this Non Violent thing doing with these goons? I must tell u that these ppl r very good @ nabbing the mosques of other sects "peacefully"!


  6. d0ct0r on August 25th, 2008 @ 4:34 am

    tzaidi

    "Hari Pagri wallay" holds annual events at Multan-e-Medina,and weekly congregation at Medina-tul-sabzi Mandi, they got a Medina on super highway as well and just to make everything look more religious and spiritual they add ‘medina’ with that word furthermore they are closely related to Sunni Tehreek an armed violent group which encroaches and takes over Mosques by use of force and violent means.


  7. Talha Aziz (aziztalha) on August 25th, 2008 @ 8:44 am

    "Hari Pagri walay" .. "Jannat k tootay(parrots)" … or the Barelvis … they are a sect .. and any such post promoting any of the sects should immediately be removed.


  8. Tariq Khanani (tariqkhanani) on August 25th, 2008 @ 8:58 am

    these parrots didn’t let anyone in our locality sleep this saturday for their so called madni mehfil followed by langar-e-ghousia if you know what that means. program started after midnight with 3 huge size speakers right below our flat. our windows were vibration due to their voice. and they call themselves Jannati. i wish i am not in same Jannat with them.


  9. seskey on August 25th, 2008 @ 9:26 am

    Prostitution may be banned in Pakistan and have some Pakistan penal code punishments for such act, but The WHORE which exist around and everyone can use and pimp for vested interest with & to everyone, and everyone rapes her at WILL is Known as ISLAM.

    Be it Green, Brown, Orange, White, Grey etc etc, -ALL claim to be Righteous, and Supreme from Others., and announce and claim that others shall be KILLED if they don’t believe in YOUR ideology, KILL them and Goto Heaven. read that as WAJIB al KATAL.

    It as Clearly defined by the Last Prophet (PBUH) for the existance of 72 different sects of ISLAM at the time of D-day, so don be surprise if 69 are out of Land of Pure called Pakistan.


  10. IUnknown (iunknown) on August 25th, 2008 @ 11:02 am

    @seskey: HOLD UR TONGUE
    Else it the first paragraph could be changed as

    "Prostitution may be banned in Pakistan and have some Pakistan penal code punishments for such act, but The WHORE which exist around and everyone can use and pimp for vested interest with & to everyone, and everyone rapes her at WILL is Known as SESKEY’s RELATIVES".


  11. Tazeen (tazeen) on August 25th, 2008 @ 12:44 pm

    Is this the place where we can propagate our religious, political or communal beliefs?
    Haray Pagri walay are associates of Sunni Tehreek which is an anti shia organization and here they are painted as paragons of virtue. What is wrong with KMB? What happened to self censorship? Or is it written for the purpose riling the readers here?


  12. bozz on August 25th, 2008 @ 12:45 pm

    Great promotion for Islam. Wear a green turban and, poof, instantly you turn into a good Muslim (whether the prophet wore this color or not).

    Please when will you and people like you spare us this BS. As it is we have to live in one big pile of it everyday. Now the stench is becoming unbearable

    Try promoting first honesty, humility, compassion, tolerance, civil education, equality, womens rights before promoting turbans, ankle length shalwars or any other piece of religious mambo jumbo, please.


  13. ameerhamza on August 25th, 2008 @ 2:56 pm

    Doctor says:

    ‘…they add ‘medina’ with that word furthermore they are closely related to Sunni Tehreek an armed violent group which encroaches and takes over Mosques by us…’

    It is quite true that Sunni Tehreek like Sipah Sahaba takes over masjids forcefully. But it not true that they are related to Dawat-e-Islami. They belong to a similar religious belief system (Ahl-e-Sunnah) but that is about it. What is common b/w you and Bush? Both are humans. Not much else.


  14. ameerhamza on August 25th, 2008 @ 3:00 pm

    Tariq says:

    ‘these parrots didn’t let anyone in our locality sleep this saturday for their so called madni mehfil followed by langar-e-ghousia…. program started after midnight with 3 huge size speakers right below our flat. our windows were vibration due to their voice. and they call themselves Jannati. i wish i am not in same Jannat with them’

    Your concerns are quite valid. No one has the right to disturb others. Just like various Shia groups take our processions on Muharram with total dis-regard for public safety or public concern.


  15. ameerhamza on August 25th, 2008 @ 3:03 pm

    Zenubia says:

    ‘Aren’t they referred to as "Hari Pagri wallay?"’

    Yes, they are.

    Further,

    ‘It’s interesting to note that the color green has come to be associated with Islam and the prophet, perhaps for the green color of Masjid-e-Nabvi. Although it was painted green much much later after the prophet pbuh. Before that it was painted in blue, gold and red.’

    Green color flags were carried as jihad flags, according to some historians, in those times. And also, it is related that at some moment in time our Prophet Hazrat Muhammad (salahu alihi wasalam) wore this colour.


  16. HITMAN (hitman) on August 25th, 2008 @ 3:14 pm

    They belong to a similar religious belief system (Ahl-e-Sunnah) but that is about it.

    Nope!
    They belong to a much screwed version. Come out of the Qadri Shell & the khuwaab which they daily see & u will get the broader picture what they r upto.

    Wearing green on top & yellow on bottom doesn’t make 1 a good muslim. Nor playing naats n qawwalis on the tone of indian songs is gonna do any help. Moreover, just google with keywords "dance in mosque " & check all the youtube links. Is this what u & these goons r promoting??? SHAME ON U AH! (& Its not the abbreviation of ur name)


  17. bozz on August 25th, 2008 @ 3:21 pm

    So why not white? I am sure he wore it too. While we are in colouring mode, let us add brown or mustard too!

    So these "hari pagri wallay (or sallay whichever you prefer) are promoting what? jihad? And instead of carrying it on a flag they thought it is better to wear it on their heads and be on perpetual jihad mode. Interesting…..

    As for the unnamed historians that you mention, well even the hadees is debatable, as the first one appeared more than a century after the prophet’s demise.


  18. Shamsi (shamsi) on August 25th, 2008 @ 9:21 pm

    Ameer Hamza, Like Teeth & MB You are gradually becoming another Controversial ICON of Nuisance value on KMB. What is – was REASON to start a TOPIC about which ( I’m sure ) you have knowledge HALF wrong & Half Distorted.

    – Seskey – infact the name of my Dhobi is Islam too, he sure is human and not a perfect Muslim, but that does not mean the religion Islam is BAD like BAD version(s) of Islam practiced & preached in Pakistan However Ironically I agree with you that Islam is most manipulated commodity in our country, My 2 nickle request please exercise caution in choosing words when it is about the Religion which TEACHES HUMANITY & TOLERENCE 1ST. I can only request, Threatening or being abusive does not suits me like many others do here.

    Walah Alam what was the reason AH started this Topic.


  19. bozz on August 25th, 2008 @ 10:48 pm

    It is so damn funny Sesky. Forgive them for they do not know what they say.

    For the record Seskey said nothing wrong or offensive about the religion. What is ironic, and what he was trying to point out, is the misuse of religion by the ones who claim to defend it in the first place and which is lost on you all cautioning him.

    It is also beyond doubt that here in Pakistan we have one of the most corrupted and disgusting form of practiced Islam.


  20. tzaidi on August 25th, 2008 @ 11:22 pm

    there are not two muslims in this world whose idea of islam or the way they follow it is same, may be similar but never same.

    then whats the fight is all about??
    what is see in the above writings is that people making personal attacks in the name of religon, so what this makes us???

    Yes, you guessed it righ, …………… ‘MUNAFIQ"


  21. d0ct0r on August 26th, 2008 @ 1:02 am

    Sunni Tehreek is associated with Dawat-e-Islami ‘International private ltd’. you simply can’t deny its association,furthermore you can’t deny their innovations (Bid’at) and each year they invent some thing new n appealing to attract more followers..

    let me paste my views about beralvis from an earlier blog post

    "lately these hari pagri/barelvi n shia folks are in direct competition with each other,i don’t mind them practicing their religion as long as they don’t make the lives of rest of citizen miserable(closure of roads for processions/milads/muharram/chelum), since last few years competition have intensified and barelvi folks also wanted to have 2 public holidays coz if shias can have 2(9th n 10th muharram) why should’nt they.. Shias also are extra active these days in Rabiul Awal as against previous years coz of direct competition..

    Prophet Muhammed (Peace be Up On Him) never asked his follower to celebrate his birthday/muharram/majlis/milad/chelum and make lives of other miserable like they do here in pakistan"

    Barelvis also have added Durood before Azan and make it appear as if its part of Azan,so don’t be surprised if in next 10 years they start reciting owais qadri’s naat before and after Azan as well coz they are getting innovative and creative at a faster pace as compared to rest of us..

    you can further read about barelvis and their innovations on this earlier post:
    http://karachi.metblogs.com/2008/03/14/here-comes-rabiul-awwal/


  22. Talha Aziz (aziztalha) on August 26th, 2008 @ 10:52 am

    ameerhamza .. the color of muslim flag was never green .. in the time of war it used to be black and at the time of peace it was white.

    An Islamic Flag, known as the ‘Flag of Islam’ (‘Alam al-Islam) or ‘Flag of Shahada’ (‘Alam al-Shahada) featuring the first Kalimah, the Shahada, widely used by Muslims. White flags with black lettering symbolically represent ‘Dar al-Salam/Islam’ and Black flags with white lettering symbolically represent ‘Dar al-Harb/Kufr
    Islamic Flags">

    Also .. these parrot don’t preach jihad as they think dancing and singing is what will save our brother being killed and our Muslim sisters gettin raped by the modern colonialist dogs all over the world..

    *pathetic*


  23. Talha Aziz (aziztalha) on August 26th, 2008 @ 10:55 am

    sorry.. i screwed up the formatting … i was too taken by emotion


  24. bozz on August 26th, 2008 @ 11:15 am

    The first part of your message was aimed in the right direction but why in God`s name did you have to spoil it all by stating the following dumb lines,

    "will save our brother being killed and our Muslim sisters gettin raped by the modern colonialist dogs all over the world"

    You still do not get it eh? Our worst enemy has always been here with us, within us, we ourselves are, our worst enemy.

    We are the most self-destructive nation that I know off; the one most in self-denial and the mindset of simply being a ‘victim.’ We need to stop blaming others for our failures and inadequacies and simply accept all our shortcomings and history.

    You are right in saying you screwed up.


  25. seskey on August 26th, 2008 @ 11:32 am

    I Ignore the web LIONS & Donkeys equally,

    Does any one ever investigated these LOSERS how many versions of Quran they are practicing.

    NONE I repeat NONE of these Turban riders, or The Clean Moustache Neck Long Beard users are preaching Islam, they are solely focusing on gathering HERD around them manipulating people for their own vested interest and forming pressure groups in the name of Islam.

    Not any single one of them is righteous, nor a PRACTICING muslim till the age of early 30’s. Once they are DONE with all HARAM ZADGIs of Life, they seek refuge with the gang of infidels in the name of Islam.


  26. mastqalandar on August 26th, 2008 @ 8:08 pm

    My close relatives (hari pagree waley) try to convince me that since I am a sinner, its worthless to ask Allah directly. They told me to come along with them to their PEER sahib and ask him to ask Allah for forgiveness. To further convince me they said when you want to visit a high ranking official you can not just go and visit him, instead you have to go through channels (Sil-siley).

    I didn’t agree with them and now they call me WAHABEE. I guess I should change my nick to Wahabee-wanabe :).

    One of their leaders, i think it was Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri once going in the car, suddenly asked the driver to stop the car. The driver stopped the car, he steps out and walks a bit and then hugs the air with eyes down. He comes back and explained that Hazrat (Muhammad S.A.W.W) was going on his transport and this ghulam( himself) wanted to pay salam to Hazrat.

    Now if I ask them why can’t I see Muhammad (S.A.W.W) since he is coming to our Majlis, they say that ONLY PEOPLE HIGH IN CHANNELS (SIL-SILEY) can see him.


  27. tzaidi on August 26th, 2008 @ 9:26 pm

    All of you are commenting on religon, but tell me honestly how many of you even try to offer all namaz, fast during whole ramadan or pay full zakat.

    How many of you!!!

    Stop taunting at each other – pehlay apnay garibaan main jhankoo !!


  28. bozz on August 26th, 2008 @ 9:37 pm

    So tell me, if someone offers namaz and fasts and pays zakat, automatically becomes what? A good muslim or a good person? No, I will tell you what he becomes, NEITHER.

    I feel sorry for your ignorance religious and otherwise. It does not require much knowledge to know that a good person is better than a pious one in all domains including Gods.

    If only people like you would learn to use their heads instead of thinking of them as storage space for turbans and topees.


  29. seskey on August 27th, 2008 @ 10:49 am

    Namaz, roza, hajj, zakat, – are 4 mandatory essentials to be observed by a healthy & prosperous muslim. Hajj is Farz ONCE in a lifetime for those who can afford, zakat is farz for the prosperous ones, roza if farz on healthy ones and NAMAZ is Farz on every Sane breathing human.,

    all these are farayz & duty for ALLAH (SWT) and NO ONE CAN Question other why it is not been observed else the parents who are responsible to teach the same.

    Hakok-ul-Ibad is for Humanity – I repeat Humanity. and That ALLAH (SWT) have clearly defined in Holy Quran That it will be between the Humans and if the hurt does not forgive the one who caused hurt I will not pardon, ALLAH (SWT) did not mentioned Muslims WHY ? Beacuse the Last Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) was The Prophet of ALL BEING created by ALLAH (SWT) calling upon whole of BEING to follow and accept how he acts and what the HOLY Book sent upon him Says.

    The Only un-edited book Till date existing since 1400+ years in original form is Holy Quran and over 20000 Authentic Hadiths defining how to obserce Quran,

    How come mawalis & inept rejects of society can rule masses unless the masses are rudderless uneducated and does not have sense.

    Allah (SWT) have repeatedly said in Quran, "aqeem us-salat-a wa-aa-tauz-zakat-a" namaz qayam karo aur zakat ada karoo.

    If we observe namaz with attention & devotion there is no chance that we can not be flexible, kind and human. Because for 40 years from Birth the Holy Prophet was the Supreme Human called Sadiq & Ameen in whole of Arab which was as far as upto Persia in that time.

    Honesty, Tolerence, Flexible, Kindness, & Helpful is basic of What the Prophet (PBUH) have profoundly spelled as the Qualities of Good Muslim.

    How many of Present day Moulvis’ have single credibility of honesty and upright character, ? Tahir ul Qadri the Haramzada of Lahore self-exiled in London linked to Freemasons of Manchester & Birmingham helped the Israelis to bring about the NEW Quran, he is no less then Salman Rushdie.


  30. bozz on August 27th, 2008 @ 11:04 am

    The point is not who is holier. None are and everyone is. This is not for any human being including Muslims, to decide. This is only for God to judge. There are some good people in all faiths and walks of life and there some bad people in all faiths and walks of life too.

    The thing is what we have to realize by moving our over sized behinds and getting off this high moral pedestal that we perpetually sit on, is that you can be a good person without being a religious one (including muslim), but you CANNOT be a good religious person without FIRST being a good person.


  31. Talha Aziz (aziztalha) on August 28th, 2008 @ 9:06 am

    whats being discussed is not what started the discussion..

    delete this post.. its more of an advertisement of a sect within Islam..

    keep the entries/articles restricted to happenings in Karachi and/or politics only.. n leave sensitive topics (which easily fuel emotions) such as religion out of discussion.


  32. ameerhamza on August 28th, 2008 @ 6:03 pm

    aziztalha says:

    ‘ … they are a sect .. and any such post promoting any of the sects should immediately be removed.’

    KMB allows authors to express their own views. No harm in expressing mine. Why should it be deleted has not been explained.


  33. ameerhamza on August 28th, 2008 @ 6:06 pm

    Seskey says:

    ‘…? Tahir ul Qadri the Haramzada of Lahore self-exiled in London linked to Freemasons of Manchester & Birmingham helped the Israelis to bring about the NEW Quran, he is no less then Salman Rushdie.’

    Tahir-ul-Qadri is a Sunni Muslim but does not adhere to or follows Dawat-e-Islami. His suffix, Qadri, is due to him being a part of Qadria silsila.


  34. ameerhamza on August 28th, 2008 @ 6:12 pm

    Doctor says:

    ‘Prophet Muhammed (Peace be Up On Him) never asked his follower to celebrate his birthday/muharram/majlis/milad/chelum and make lives of other miserable like they do here in pakistan"’

    Prophet Muhammad (salahu alihi wasalam) never asked his followers to drink Coke or eat burgers or travel to Mexico or Finland. Yet some of us do and no one thinks it is bad. It must be noted that things which do not contradict with Islam are allowed and there is no harm in majalis in which naat sharif are read or Quran Sharif is recited. How lives of people become miserable is beyond me (talking in general terms). Yes, if your point is that some of them read naat in loud voice at midnight, that is surely not acceptable.

    That behaviour is not limited to people belonging to Dawat-e-Islami only. Shias do it during 40 days of Moharram with an additional drama of matam (self hitting against which a Shia has been charged internationally). I condemn such acts where people are disturbed as Islam clearly disallows any form of aggression, disturbance or nuisance against any human being or an animal.


  35. seskey on August 29th, 2008 @ 4:06 pm

    am seskey because am from sexy silsila, – FQ IT Ameeerhamza, when a person do sajda in namaz, he is in direct contact with ALLAH (SWT),

    It is about BELIEF & FAITH, not about silsila or chill-chilla

    When Katrina Kaif walked barefoot to Ajmer Shareef in India before the lainch of KISTMAT Connection, what was it about, – nothing but FAITH that the person resting in this place is the One who can HELP.

    Non-believers doing such stuff make sense, Muslims with Quran & Hadith at hand doing such acts are LOST and have faith non-existant.


  36. Talha Aziz (aziztalha) on August 29th, 2008 @ 4:15 pm

    Non-believers doing such stuff make sense, Muslims with Quran & Hadith at hand doing such acts are LOST and have faith non-existant.

    *thumbs up*


  37. HITMAN (hitman) on August 29th, 2008 @ 6:46 pm

    +1 to sexy, err…. seskey


  38. mastqalandar on August 29th, 2008 @ 9:30 pm

    ameerhamza,

    Prophet Muhammad (salahu alihi wasalam) never asked his followers to drink Coke or eat burgers or travel to Mexico or Finland. Yet some of us do and no one thinks it is bad. It must be noted that things which do not contradict with Islam are allowed and there is no harm in majalis in which naat sharif are read or Quran Sharif is recited. How lives of people become miserable is beyond me (talking in general terms). Yes, if your point is that some of them read naat in loud voice at midnight, that is surely not acceptable.

    People who drink Coke do not make it part of the religion. If you make something part of the religion and consider people who don’t do it as Kafir then it becomes unacceptable. Thats just how these people think. This is also true in the case of Meelad Shareef. These GREEN-PAGGER people call every one Kafir who do not participate in their Meelad.

    Naat is not prohibited itself but listen to this… I was in one "GREEN PAGREE MASJID on invitation of some relatives. Who try day and night to convert me to be a Green Paggar.The people reciting the naat were singing nice things about Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.W) but one of the verse said "UNKEEE TO MUHTAAJ HAI KHUDAII BHEE"….This is SHIRK.


  39. d0ct0r on August 30th, 2008 @ 12:08 am

    Barelvis might find this offesnsive.. so viewer discretion advised(PG 20+)..

    Dr Tahir ul Qadri and his Barevli Dancers

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv11q09JPXU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1EJpgDkNi8

    Owais Qadri and his stunts
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EFuwwmii8c

    Barelvis Dancing In A Masjid Like Headless Chickens
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBsMyP6VuB0

    a barelvi monk acting like hindus being showered with money
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoA8xs3Zv9Q

    Tahir ul Qadri and other barelvi molvis fighting with each other
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZGvbwNfGc4

    Barelvis have serious problems praying behind non Barelvi molvis,although on passport barelvism is not mentioned so they easily can go for haj and umrah but some of the Senior known radical Barelvi Molvis are banned by Saudis because of their innovation and Bid’ats,but most of the common barelvis do go for haj and umrah. When its time for jamat in Masjid al-Haram or Masjid al-Nabawi then Mutaween(saudi religious police ) makes sure that all businesses/shops are closed down for prayers and all individual go for prayers, they are not that strict with individuals but they do get businesses closed. Reward for praying Salaat(Namaz) with jamat in Masjid al-Haram or Masjid al-Nabawi increases many folds(100000/50000 times). Now these unlucky hardcore barelvis have problem praying behind Saudi Molvis,they can’t roam around in the streets out of fear of Mutaweenz and they can’t obviously sit in Masjid and wait for Namaz to finish while others pray(coz it will look odd that others are praying and they are waiting for prayers to finish). So they go and hide in the underground lavatories/toilets outside the masjid Complex and stay there until jamat namaz is over and then they pray individually on their own.

    In Medina while going towards Masjid al-Nabawi i saw a decent looking young man walking barefooted without any kind of footwear,i thought maybe poor guy’s footwear must have been stolen/lost,upon inquiring it turns out that he was a hardcore barelvi and was intentionally not wearing any kind of footwear,moreover this person had done masters from punjab university,his logic was that medina is a sacred city and here Prophet Muhammed (sal Allaahu ‘alayhe wasalam) was lived so out of respect and love for the prophet he is not wearing any footwear,i explained to him that it was totally irrational and unhygienic act,walking barefooted on dirty filthy roads and then with same filthy feet entering the sacred mosque and start praying.

    In Jannat al-Baqi Grave yard just opposite Masjid al-Nabawi a guy and his wife were discreetly and hastily busy filling up a plastic polythene bag with sand from one of the unmarked grave,but a mutawa’ah deputed there noticed what they were trying to do,so he instantly reached the spot and took the plastic bag from them and emptied it over the grave,although he was arabic but he explained to them in broken Urdu that its not appropriate to take sand from graves with intention to worship them or as a sacred souvenir.Graves and mazars are also integral part of Barelvism,praying for the dead(and asking for forgiveness on their behalf from Allah) is a good thing BUT praying from dead is totally unislamic,no matter how much pious or holy a person maybe,but once he is dead he can’t even remove a mosquito/housefly or dust from his grave then how do you expect him to answer your prayers?

    @Ameerhamza Drink Coke Shareef or eat McDonald’s Shareef as much as you like,but don’t associate it with Islam or Islamic believes.Be creative,invent new and attractive entertainment as much as you like go to Multan Shareef,dance with Omar Shareef but kindly spare Islam.

    QTV, HAQ Tv and few other ‘religious’ channels are owned by beralvi Seths,Fashion Tv is also owned by beralvi Seth..

    From Catwalks to Qadri dances all goes on and is acceptable.


  40. d0ct0r on August 30th, 2008 @ 12:28 am

    well my reply in response to your comment got stuck for moderation so i posted it on a blog

    http://dawate-islami.blogspot.com/2008/08/dawat-e-islami-kmb.html


  41. Talha Aziz (aziztalha) on August 30th, 2008 @ 8:42 am

    doctor.. awesome article on the link u’ve posted :)

    a must read for everybody …

    *thumbs up*
    *thumbs up*


  42. alam on August 30th, 2008 @ 12:21 pm

    Ahhh….religions r so yesterday !
    grow up


  43. Shamsi (shamsi) on August 31st, 2008 @ 1:11 am

    DAKTAR – in so many years on KMB after very long time you have posted something sensible (i mean the link of yours) HATS OFF, Salute.

    Since we cannot control & manage the massive zalalat & haramzadgi of these kameen zat mullahs Inn ko Dil sai bura samhajna aur expose karna bhi eik Jihad hai,

    ALLAH (SWT) ham sab ko inn KAMBAKHTOON Kay SHAR SAI MAHFOOZ Rakhay Ameen


  44. tzaidi on August 31st, 2008 @ 1:46 am

    live your own life, own religon since we are individually answerable to our creator. Stop whinning against some religious acts, it wont do good to anyone.


  45. HITMAN (hitman) on August 31st, 2008 @ 1:53 pm

    gr8 job doc


  46. karachiwala on August 31st, 2008 @ 4:40 pm

    @ Doctor
    We all know you belong to Mododi(Merdodi) Sect the person famouse for criticizing even Prophets(A.S)and consider Kafir and Fitna by almost every famouse Alim of big sects so dear people don’t mind about what he writes here.

    People like doctor can’t do anything good for this Nation or for the people of this Country except arguing and criticizing.


  47. d0ct0r on August 31st, 2008 @ 11:11 pm

    @karachiwala you seem like a newbie here but anyway for the umpteenth time let me state that am not at all related to Jamiat or Jamat Islami

    On the other hand its quite obvious that you are a supporter of a known terrorist gang which has murdered,kidnapped,tortured and burnt alive hundreds and thousands of innocent Karachiites.


  48. kaami on September 1st, 2008 @ 7:16 am

    Even when I was a Muslim by virtue of being borned into a Sunni Family, I went to Shia Majalis, attended Tableeghee Ijtimah and ofcourse Dars-e-Quran by Jamaatee bhai. Personally, I don’t mind people having different religous beliefs as long as they are not trying to impose or force their ideology on others. As far as Harri Pagaree are concerned my objection has always been their love for loud speaker causing inconvenience to others. However, comparing them to fanatics who set about blowing themselves and others innocent souls.

    As far sect forming is concerned, it futile to resist it. Hazrat Imam Abu Hanifa himself said that even his students have different opinions about his edicts. Back in the progressive days of Islam all issues were discussed such Imamat by a woman and their was great diversity of opinions between the Imams, but they were not cutting each others throat, in fact each others opinion was respected.

    And, thats how sects form, it shows that people are thinking and are trying lto adapt to the changing times and are constantly trying to interpret. Even Shia’s have two very divergent school of thoughts namely, Najafi and Quomi and who know down the road a new sect will emerge out of Shia’s.

    The key is to respect each others beliefs and stay away from enforcement /causing in-convenience to others. After all nobody has monopoly over the ultimate truth, every religion and sect just presents theory of what it believes is right.



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