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		<title>By: kaami</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2008/08/24/dawat-e-islami/comment-page-1/#comment-65115</link>
		<dc:creator>kaami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 02:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even when I was a Muslim by virtue of being borned into a Sunni Family, I went to Shia Majalis, attended Tableeghee Ijtimah and ofcourse Dars-e-Quran by Jamaatee bhai. Personally, I don&#039;t mind people having different religous beliefs as long as they are not trying to impose or force their ideology on others. As far as Harri Pagaree are concerned my  objection has always been their love for loud speaker causing inconvenience to others. However, comparing them to fanatics who set about blowing themselves and others innocent souls.

As far sect forming is concerned, it futile to resist it. Hazrat Imam Abu Hanifa himself said that even his students have different opinions about his edicts. Back in the progressive days of Islam all issues were discussed such Imamat by a woman and their was great diversity of opinions between the Imams, but they were not cutting each others throat, in fact each others opinion was respected.

And, thats how sects form, it shows that people are thinking and are trying lto adapt to the changing times and are constantly trying to interpret. Even Shia&#039;s have two very divergent school of thoughts namely, Najafi and Quomi and who know down the road a new sect will emerge out of Shia&#039;s.

The key is to respect each others beliefs and stay away from enforcement /causing in-convenience to others. After all nobody has monopoly over the ultimate truth, every religion and sect just presents theory of what it believes is right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even when I was a Muslim by virtue of being borned into a Sunni Family, I went to Shia Majalis, attended Tableeghee Ijtimah and ofcourse Dars-e-Quran by Jamaatee bhai. Personally, I don&#8217;t mind people having different religous beliefs as long as they are not trying to impose or force their ideology on others. As far as Harri Pagaree are concerned my  objection has always been their love for loud speaker causing inconvenience to others. However, comparing them to fanatics who set about blowing themselves and others innocent souls.</p>
<p>As far sect forming is concerned, it futile to resist it. Hazrat Imam Abu Hanifa himself said that even his students have different opinions about his edicts. Back in the progressive days of Islam all issues were discussed such Imamat by a woman and their was great diversity of opinions between the Imams, but they were not cutting each others throat, in fact each others opinion was respected.</p>
<p>And, thats how sects form, it shows that people are thinking and are trying lto adapt to the changing times and are constantly trying to interpret. Even Shia&#8217;s have two very divergent school of thoughts namely, Najafi and Quomi and who know down the road a new sect will emerge out of Shia&#8217;s.</p>
<p>The key is to respect each others beliefs and stay away from enforcement /causing in-convenience to others. After all nobody has monopoly over the ultimate truth, every religion and sect just presents theory of what it believes is right.</p>
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		<title>By: d0ct0r</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2008/08/24/dawat-e-islami/comment-page-1/#comment-65100</link>
		<dc:creator>d0ct0r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@karachiwala you seem like a newbie here but anyway for the umpteenth time let me state that am not at all related to Jamiat or Jamat Islami

On the other hand its quite obvious that you are a supporter of a known terrorist gang which has murdered,kidnapped,tortured and burnt alive hundreds and thousands of innocent Karachiites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@karachiwala you seem like a newbie here but anyway for the umpteenth time let me state that am not at all related to Jamiat or Jamat Islami</p>
<p>On the other hand its quite obvious that you are a supporter of a known terrorist gang which has murdered,kidnapped,tortured and burnt alive hundreds and thousands of innocent Karachiites.</p>
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		<title>By: karachiwala</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2008/08/24/dawat-e-islami/comment-page-1/#comment-65091</link>
		<dc:creator>karachiwala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Doctor
We all know you belong to Mododi(Merdodi) Sect the person famouse for criticizing even Prophets(A.S)and consider Kafir and Fitna by almost every famouse Alim of big sects so dear people don&#039;t mind about what he writes here.

People like doctor can&#039;t do anything good for this Nation or for the people of this Country except arguing and criticizing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Doctor<br />
We all know you belong to Mododi(Merdodi) Sect the person famouse for criticizing even Prophets(A.S)and consider Kafir and Fitna by almost every famouse Alim of big sects so dear people don&#8217;t mind about what he writes here.</p>
<p>People like doctor can&#8217;t do anything good for this Nation or for the people of this Country except arguing and criticizing.</p>
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		<title>By: HITMAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>HITMAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 08:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gr8 job doc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gr8 job doc</p>
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		<title>By: tzaidi</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2008/08/24/dawat-e-islami/comment-page-1/#comment-65085</link>
		<dc:creator>tzaidi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>live your own life, own religon since we are individually answerable to our creator. Stop whinning against some religious acts, it wont do good to anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>live your own life, own religon since we are individually answerable to our creator. Stop whinning against some religious acts, it wont do good to anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Shamsi</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2008/08/24/dawat-e-islami/comment-page-1/#comment-65084</link>
		<dc:creator>Shamsi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DAKTAR - in so many years on KMB after very long time you have posted something sensible (i mean the link of yours) HATS OFF, Salute.

Since we cannot control &amp; manage the massive zalalat &amp; haramzadgi of these kameen zat mullahs Inn ko Dil sai bura samhajna aur expose karna bhi eik Jihad hai, 

ALLAH (SWT) ham sab ko inn KAMBAKHTOON Kay SHAR SAI MAHFOOZ Rakhay Ameen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DAKTAR &#8211; in so many years on KMB after very long time you have posted something sensible (i mean the link of yours) HATS OFF, Salute.</p>
<p>Since we cannot control &amp; manage the massive zalalat &amp; haramzadgi of these kameen zat mullahs Inn ko Dil sai bura samhajna aur expose karna bhi eik Jihad hai, </p>
<p>ALLAH (SWT) ham sab ko inn KAMBAKHTOON Kay SHAR SAI MAHFOOZ Rakhay Ameen</p>
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		<title>By: alam</title>
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		<dc:creator>alam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhh....religions r so yesterday !
grow up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh&#8230;.religions r so yesterday !<br />
grow up</p>
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		<title>By: aziztalha</title>
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		<dc:creator>aziztalha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>doctor.. awesome article on the link u&#039;ve posted :)

a must read for everybody ...

*thumbs up*
*thumbs up*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>doctor.. awesome article on the link u&#8217;ve posted :)</p>
<p>a must read for everybody &#8230;</p>
<p>*thumbs up*<br />
*thumbs up*</p>
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		<title>By: d0ct0r</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2008/08/24/dawat-e-islami/comment-page-1/#comment-65064</link>
		<dc:creator>d0ct0r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well my reply in response to your comment got stuck for moderation so i posted it on a blog

http://dawate-islami.blogspot.com/2008/08/dawat-e-islami-kmb.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well my reply in response to your comment got stuck for moderation so i posted it on a blog</p>
<p><a href="http://dawate-islami.blogspot.com/2008/08/dawat-e-islami-kmb.html" rel="nofollow">http://dawate-islami.blogspot.com/2008/08/dawat-e-islami-kmb.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: d0ct0r</title>
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		<dc:creator>d0ct0r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barelvis might find this offesnsive.. so viewer discretion advised(PG 20+)..


Dr Tahir ul Qadri and his Barevli Dancers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv11q09JPXU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1EJpgDkNi8

Owais Qadri and his stunts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EFuwwmii8c

Barelvis Dancing In A Masjid Like Headless Chickens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBsMyP6VuB0

a barelvi monk acting like hindus being showered with money
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoA8xs3Zv9Q

Tahir ul Qadri and other barelvi molvis fighting with each other
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZGvbwNfGc4


Barelvis have serious problems praying behind non Barelvi molvis,although on passport barelvism is not mentioned so they easily can go for haj and umrah but some of the Senior known radical Barelvi Molvis are banned by Saudis because of their innovation and Bid’ats,but most of the common barelvis do go for haj and umrah. When its time for jamat in Masjid al-Haram or Masjid al-Nabawi then Mutaween(saudi religious police ) makes sure that all businesses/shops are closed down for prayers and all individual go for prayers, they are not that strict with individuals but they do get businesses closed. Reward for praying Salaat(Namaz) with jamat in Masjid al-Haram or Masjid al-Nabawi increases many folds(100000/50000 times). Now these unlucky hardcore barelvis have problem praying behind Saudi Molvis,they can&#039;t roam around in the streets out of fear of Mutaweenz and they can&#039;t obviously sit in Masjid and wait for Namaz to finish while others pray(coz it will look odd that others are praying and they are waiting for prayers to finish). So they go and hide in the underground lavatories/toilets outside the masjid Complex and stay there until jamat namaz is over and then they pray individually on their own.

In Medina while going towards Masjid al-Nabawi i saw a decent looking young man walking barefooted without any kind of footwear,i thought maybe poor guy&#039;s footwear must have been stolen/lost,upon inquiring  it turns out that he was a hardcore barelvi and was intentionally not wearing any kind of footwear,moreover this person had done masters from punjab university,his logic was that medina is a sacred city and here Prophet Muhammed (sal Allaahu &#039;alayhe wasalam) was lived so out of respect and love for the prophet he is not wearing any footwear,i explained to him that it was totally irrational and unhygienic act,walking barefooted on dirty filthy roads and then with same filthy feet entering the sacred mosque and start praying.

In Jannat al-Baqi Grave yard just opposite Masjid al-Nabawi a guy and his wife were discreetly and hastily busy filling up a plastic polythene bag with sand from one of the unmarked grave,but a mutawa’ah deputed there noticed what they were trying to do,so he instantly reached the spot and took the plastic bag from them and emptied it over the grave,although he was arabic but he explained to them in broken Urdu that its not appropriate to take sand from graves with intention to worship them or as a sacred souvenir.Graves and mazars are also integral part of Barelvism,praying for the dead(and asking for forgiveness on their behalf from Allah) is a good thing BUT praying from dead is totally unislamic,no matter how much pious or holy a person maybe,but once he is dead he can&#039;t even remove a mosquito/housefly or dust from his grave then how do you expect him to answer your prayers?


@Ameerhamza Drink Coke Shareef or eat McDonald&#039;s Shareef as much as you like,but don&#039;t associate it with Islam or Islamic believes.Be creative,invent new and attractive entertainment as much as you like go to Multan Shareef,dance with Omar Shareef but kindly spare Islam. 

QTV, HAQ Tv and few other &#039;religious&#039; channels are owned by beralvi Seths,Fashion Tv is also owned by beralvi Seth..

From Catwalks to Qadri dances all goes on and is acceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barelvis might find this offesnsive.. so viewer discretion advised(PG 20+)..</p>
<p>Dr Tahir ul Qadri and his Barevli Dancers</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv11q09JPXU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv11q09JPXU</a><br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1EJpgDkNi8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1EJpgDkNi8</a></p>
<p>Owais Qadri and his stunts<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EFuwwmii8c" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EFuwwmii8c</a></p>
<p>Barelvis Dancing In A Masjid Like Headless Chickens<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBsMyP6VuB0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBsMyP6VuB0</a></p>
<p>a barelvi monk acting like hindus being showered with money<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoA8xs3Zv9Q" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoA8xs3Zv9Q</a></p>
<p>Tahir ul Qadri and other barelvi molvis fighting with each other<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZGvbwNfGc4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZGvbwNfGc4</a></p>
<p>Barelvis have serious problems praying behind non Barelvi molvis,although on passport barelvism is not mentioned so they easily can go for haj and umrah but some of the Senior known radical Barelvi Molvis are banned by Saudis because of their innovation and Bid’ats,but most of the common barelvis do go for haj and umrah. When its time for jamat in Masjid al-Haram or Masjid al-Nabawi then Mutaween(saudi religious police ) makes sure that all businesses/shops are closed down for prayers and all individual go for prayers, they are not that strict with individuals but they do get businesses closed. Reward for praying Salaat(Namaz) with jamat in Masjid al-Haram or Masjid al-Nabawi increases many folds(100000/50000 times). Now these unlucky hardcore barelvis have problem praying behind Saudi Molvis,they can&#8217;t roam around in the streets out of fear of Mutaweenz and they can&#8217;t obviously sit in Masjid and wait for Namaz to finish while others pray(coz it will look odd that others are praying and they are waiting for prayers to finish). So they go and hide in the underground lavatories/toilets outside the masjid Complex and stay there until jamat namaz is over and then they pray individually on their own.</p>
<p>In Medina while going towards Masjid al-Nabawi i saw a decent looking young man walking barefooted without any kind of footwear,i thought maybe poor guy&#8217;s footwear must have been stolen/lost,upon inquiring  it turns out that he was a hardcore barelvi and was intentionally not wearing any kind of footwear,moreover this person had done masters from punjab university,his logic was that medina is a sacred city and here Prophet Muhammed (sal Allaahu &#8216;alayhe wasalam) was lived so out of respect and love for the prophet he is not wearing any footwear,i explained to him that it was totally irrational and unhygienic act,walking barefooted on dirty filthy roads and then with same filthy feet entering the sacred mosque and start praying.</p>
<p>In Jannat al-Baqi Grave yard just opposite Masjid al-Nabawi a guy and his wife were discreetly and hastily busy filling up a plastic polythene bag with sand from one of the unmarked grave,but a mutawa’ah deputed there noticed what they were trying to do,so he instantly reached the spot and took the plastic bag from them and emptied it over the grave,although he was arabic but he explained to them in broken Urdu that its not appropriate to take sand from graves with intention to worship them or as a sacred souvenir.Graves and mazars are also integral part of Barelvism,praying for the dead(and asking for forgiveness on their behalf from Allah) is a good thing BUT praying from dead is totally unislamic,no matter how much pious or holy a person maybe,but once he is dead he can&#8217;t even remove a mosquito/housefly or dust from his grave then how do you expect him to answer your prayers?</p>
<p>@Ameerhamza Drink Coke Shareef or eat McDonald&#8217;s Shareef as much as you like,but don&#8217;t associate it with Islam or Islamic believes.Be creative,invent new and attractive entertainment as much as you like go to Multan Shareef,dance with Omar Shareef but kindly spare Islam. </p>
<p>QTV, HAQ Tv and few other &#8216;religious&#8217; channels are owned by beralvi Seths,Fashion Tv is also owned by beralvi Seth..</p>
<p>From Catwalks to Qadri dances all goes on and is acceptable.</p>
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