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		<title>By: kaami</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2008/09/02/hanged-with-a-smile/comment-page-1/#comment-65201</link>
		<dc:creator>kaami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DOCTOR yes you are right, 9/11 + Bush  was indeed a blessing (in a screwed up sense), otherwise, Al-Qaeda fanatics would have silently taken over the country, this gave us a chance to rid at least our cities from them. If Bush had not blundered into Iraq, we could have weeded out this fitna once and for all from the whole region.

Alas! if wishes were horses......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DOCTOR yes you are right, 9/11 + Bush  was indeed a blessing (in a screwed up sense), otherwise, Al-Qaeda fanatics would have silently taken over the country, this gave us a chance to rid at least our cities from them. If Bush had not blundered into Iraq, we could have weeded out this fitna once and for all from the whole region.</p>
<p>Alas! if wishes were horses&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: d0ct0r</title>
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		<dc:creator>d0ct0r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And once again i would say 9/11 and republican president in White House were blessing in disguise for the dictator.(during the past 61 years of Pakistan history whenever there is a dictator rule here in Pakistan,there is a Republican president in White House)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And once again i would say 9/11 and republican president in White House were blessing in disguise for the dictator.(during the past 61 years of Pakistan history whenever there is a dictator rule here in Pakistan,there is a Republican president in White House)</p>
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		<title>By: d0ct0r</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2008/09/02/hanged-with-a-smile/comment-page-1/#comment-65199</link>
		<dc:creator>d0ct0r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kaami
I have already read those stats countless times on pro mushrraf blogs,am not an economist or really qualified to comment on economy but even Mush was finding it hard to defend those stats in his final days,in one of the interview he was yammering that he had asked Shaukat Aziz to come back to pakistan and explain his position regarding his claims of good economic policies but to his dismay Shaukat refused to come back..Financial gurus Shaukat Aziz are good at number fudging,they can paint rosy pictures while they are at the helm of affairs but once they leave the scene,things start to crumble.

Other day i was sitting with my classmate a senior executive at one of the leading bank,i noticed literally hundreds of cases of Auto loan defaults coming up while i was sitting with him,customers were arguing and squalling with junior customer relation officers.Many of them had their cars impounded by the bank for missing installment payments. Banks are leasing every thing like crazy but sooner or later reality will set in,and this cosmetic prosperity will start to crumble like it happened in Japan in early 90s when major banks collapsed and Japan experienced a financial crisis after the bursting of a bubble.

Leased cars,bikes and mobile phones are not really an indicator of economic prosperity.

Monopolies and cartels were nurtured and encouraged during dictators regime, be it Cement cartel,Auto cartel,Sugar Cartel,Dairy cartel etc. In a country which no stringent rules and regulation in place to safeguard it consumers obviously exploiters from around the world headed to Pakistan to make quick bucks.. 

The so called good economic policies had started to crumble while Mush was at the scene,Mega figure Fudging right before elections was done to benefit pro Mush parties like Q League and MQM which adversely affected the  economy.When coalition government was formed after election in FEB the then finance minister was asked by the political leadership to make public the economic condition of the country as of that date that was inherited from the previous regime,Ishaq Dar along with Sherry Rehman disclosed the balance sheet in a press conference ,obviously it was not a rosy picture as Shaukat Aziz and Mush had been projecting but it was a bitter reality that had to accepted.

In all this mess West&#039;s role isn&#039;t that positive either,whenever there is a dictator in power they twist their rules and laws to accommodate the dictator and they keep the money supply smooth,while once the democratic forces come on the scene every harsh rule and law is religiously applied and they always tighten the rope around Pakistan&#039;s neck.

As for the privatization during dictator&#039;s regime is concerned,if we forget and forgive Mush for all the killings in Islamabad,Tribal Areas,Baluchistan,Missing persons and other financial blunders etc committed during his time and just honestly prosecute him for blunders and corruption during privatization of vital national assets then i can assure you that on those counts alone he and Shaukat Aziz could be hanged multiple times..

&lt;b&gt;Bottom line is that even a layman like me can easily figure out that whatever the dictator has sown we will continue to reap in days and years to come,Just his removal from the scene won&#039;t automatically solve all the mess created by him in almost a decade long rule.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kaami<br />
I have already read those stats countless times on pro mushrraf blogs,am not an economist or really qualified to comment on economy but even Mush was finding it hard to defend those stats in his final days,in one of the interview he was yammering that he had asked Shaukat Aziz to come back to pakistan and explain his position regarding his claims of good economic policies but to his dismay Shaukat refused to come back..Financial gurus Shaukat Aziz are good at number fudging,they can paint rosy pictures while they are at the helm of affairs but once they leave the scene,things start to crumble.</p>
<p>Other day i was sitting with my classmate a senior executive at one of the leading bank,i noticed literally hundreds of cases of Auto loan defaults coming up while i was sitting with him,customers were arguing and squalling with junior customer relation officers.Many of them had their cars impounded by the bank for missing installment payments. Banks are leasing every thing like crazy but sooner or later reality will set in,and this cosmetic prosperity will start to crumble like it happened in Japan in early 90s when major banks collapsed and Japan experienced a financial crisis after the bursting of a bubble.</p>
<p>Leased cars,bikes and mobile phones are not really an indicator of economic prosperity.</p>
<p>Monopolies and cartels were nurtured and encouraged during dictators regime, be it Cement cartel,Auto cartel,Sugar Cartel,Dairy cartel etc. In a country which no stringent rules and regulation in place to safeguard it consumers obviously exploiters from around the world headed to Pakistan to make quick bucks.. </p>
<p>The so called good economic policies had started to crumble while Mush was at the scene,Mega figure Fudging right before elections was done to benefit pro Mush parties like Q League and MQM which adversely affected the  economy.When coalition government was formed after election in FEB the then finance minister was asked by the political leadership to make public the economic condition of the country as of that date that was inherited from the previous regime,Ishaq Dar along with Sherry Rehman disclosed the balance sheet in a press conference ,obviously it was not a rosy picture as Shaukat Aziz and Mush had been projecting but it was a bitter reality that had to accepted.</p>
<p>In all this mess West&#8217;s role isn&#8217;t that positive either,whenever there is a dictator in power they twist their rules and laws to accommodate the dictator and they keep the money supply smooth,while once the democratic forces come on the scene every harsh rule and law is religiously applied and they always tighten the rope around Pakistan&#8217;s neck.</p>
<p>As for the privatization during dictator&#8217;s regime is concerned,if we forget and forgive Mush for all the killings in Islamabad,Tribal Areas,Baluchistan,Missing persons and other financial blunders etc committed during his time and just honestly prosecute him for blunders and corruption during privatization of vital national assets then i can assure you that on those counts alone he and Shaukat Aziz could be hanged multiple times..</p>
<p><b>Bottom line is that even a layman like me can easily figure out that whatever the dictator has sown we will continue to reap in days and years to come,Just his removal from the scene won&#8217;t automatically solve all the mess created by him in almost a decade long rule.</b></p>
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		<title>By: idealali</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2008/09/02/hanged-with-a-smile/comment-page-1/#comment-65196</link>
		<dc:creator>idealali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyways, Mush is gone and is not coming back. We should think about the future of the country now. Most of us belong to the youth, which carries the future of the country in its hands now. We can turn things around, we definitely can. 
There is a saying “jaisay awaam, waisay hukmuraan”. If we all promise to ourselves and Almighty to be good Muslims and responsible Pakistani citizen, then there is no reason that Allah Almight, the most beneficent, the most merciful, does not provide us with leaders that are sincere in their efforts towards Pakistan.
We should all examine our own personal lives. What is it that we are doing wrong as a nation that we have such leaders? Are we irresponsible citizen? Do we not fulfill all our responsibilities towards other human beings and our country? Do we break traffic laws while driving? Do we all pay taxes honestly? Do we lie and bribe to avoid getting a 200 rupees ticket? Do we stand up and fight for our principles? 
Think about it. If we can’t do anything else (something that I strongly disagree with), we can at least mold our personal lives into those of good Muslims and good Pakistanis and hope for the best than spreading hatred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyways, Mush is gone and is not coming back. We should think about the future of the country now. Most of us belong to the youth, which carries the future of the country in its hands now. We can turn things around, we definitely can.<br />
There is a saying “jaisay awaam, waisay hukmuraan”. If we all promise to ourselves and Almighty to be good Muslims and responsible Pakistani citizen, then there is no reason that Allah Almight, the most beneficent, the most merciful, does not provide us with leaders that are sincere in their efforts towards Pakistan.<br />
We should all examine our own personal lives. What is it that we are doing wrong as a nation that we have such leaders? Are we irresponsible citizen? Do we not fulfill all our responsibilities towards other human beings and our country? Do we break traffic laws while driving? Do we all pay taxes honestly? Do we lie and bribe to avoid getting a 200 rupees ticket? Do we stand up and fight for our principles?<br />
Think about it. If we can’t do anything else (something that I strongly disagree with), we can at least mold our personal lives into those of good Muslims and good Pakistanis and hope for the best than spreading hatred.</p>
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		<title>By: idealali</title>
		<link>http://karachi.metblogs.com/2008/09/02/hanged-with-a-smile/comment-page-1/#comment-65195</link>
		<dc:creator>idealali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mush was not the best.  He was far from it.  But he certainly was the best of the worst lot that we have up there.  
He made some bad decisions.   Parting with USA was arguably one, ignoring the rising energy needs of the country was another, the decision to export wheat, throwing out the chief justice last year as well.  But isn&#039;t hindsight 20/20?  People like us can safely comment on history with commendable authority, it&#039;s the people who make the decisions that make the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mush was not the best.  He was far from it.  But he certainly was the best of the worst lot that we have up there.<br />
He made some bad decisions.   Parting with USA was arguably one, ignoring the rising energy needs of the country was another, the decision to export wheat, throwing out the chief justice last year as well.  But isn&#8217;t hindsight 20/20?  People like us can safely comment on history with commendable authority, it&#8217;s the people who make the decisions that make the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: idealali</title>
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		<dc:creator>idealali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all those who think Mush was a dictator, please tell me how the current regime is a democracy.
For all those who think the economy was bad under Mush, please tell me how the previous government bearing Rs.400b of subsidy last year and absorbing all effects of oil price hikes on itself managed to keep the reserves as high as $17b while the current regime, having removed all subsidies, transferred the full effect of oil price hikes to the common and still managed to deplete the reserves by half in six months on the account of import bill.  And also, how exactly an economy which held the currency stable for as long as 7 years and saw a constant GDP increase of more than 7% worse than an economy whose currency stumbled more than in a quarter than it did in decades.  And also, why are we going back to IMF when we had successfully pulled ourselves out of its trap 4 years ago.  Please, explain this to me while trying to deny the stats presented by Kaami on rational grounds.
For all those who think Mush&#039;s departure will bring stability and prosperity to the country, please explain why the investors fled the country the moment the current government took over, why the judges are still out till this moment and why the only changes we have seen in the last six months are for the worse.
For all those who think that sugar/wheat are Mush created hoaxes, please tell me why are they still here?
For all those who think 2005 stock market crash was scandalous, please explain why the current one isn&#039;t?
For all those who think that Mush&#039;s decisions to part with America on the war on terror issue was wrong, please try to explain the stance of the current government, which is carrying on with the same old Mush policies that it used to bash as a part of its election campaign?
Please also tell me whether we need 5 insincere, corrupt politicians ousting 1 sincere one (democracy) or 1 sincere one trying to sort things out on his own (dictatorship)?  And also whether roti/kapra/makan is the priority of the common or that the coalition works it&#039;s difference out? Do we need justice or do we need the honorable Chief Justice?
Please someone provide me with some answers.  I am struggling to understand whatever is going on in the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all those who think Mush was a dictator, please tell me how the current regime is a democracy.<br />
For all those who think the economy was bad under Mush, please tell me how the previous government bearing Rs.400b of subsidy last year and absorbing all effects of oil price hikes on itself managed to keep the reserves as high as $17b while the current regime, having removed all subsidies, transferred the full effect of oil price hikes to the common and still managed to deplete the reserves by half in six months on the account of import bill.  And also, how exactly an economy which held the currency stable for as long as 7 years and saw a constant GDP increase of more than 7% worse than an economy whose currency stumbled more than in a quarter than it did in decades.  And also, why are we going back to IMF when we had successfully pulled ourselves out of its trap 4 years ago.  Please, explain this to me while trying to deny the stats presented by Kaami on rational grounds.<br />
For all those who think Mush&#8217;s departure will bring stability and prosperity to the country, please explain why the investors fled the country the moment the current government took over, why the judges are still out till this moment and why the only changes we have seen in the last six months are for the worse.<br />
For all those who think that sugar/wheat are Mush created hoaxes, please tell me why are they still here?<br />
For all those who think 2005 stock market crash was scandalous, please explain why the current one isn&#8217;t?<br />
For all those who think that Mush&#8217;s decisions to part with America on the war on terror issue was wrong, please try to explain the stance of the current government, which is carrying on with the same old Mush policies that it used to bash as a part of its election campaign?<br />
Please also tell me whether we need 5 insincere, corrupt politicians ousting 1 sincere one (democracy) or 1 sincere one trying to sort things out on his own (dictatorship)?  And also whether roti/kapra/makan is the priority of the common or that the coalition works it&#8217;s difference out? Do we need justice or do we need the honorable Chief Justice?<br />
Please someone provide me with some answers.  I am struggling to understand whatever is going on in the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Adnan Siddiqi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adnan Siddiqi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zeeshan, Ironically your uncle(the real Mush) sold Pakistani girl Dr Aafia to US and earned dollars.

@doctor: The real mush would pee in pants rather smiling. Dictators are always cowards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zeeshan, Ironically your uncle(the real Mush) sold Pakistani girl Dr Aafia to US and earned dollars.</p>
<p>@doctor: The real mush would pee in pants rather smiling. Dictators are always cowards.</p>
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		<title>By: kaami</title>
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		<dc:creator>kaami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is some refreshing news from The News:

&lt;b&gt; Back to 1999 in a Hurry&lt;/b&gt;
Of the 192 members of the United Nations, Pakistan’s sovereign debt is now the riskiest. For the week ending Aug 29, Government of Pakistan bonds overtook Argentina’s to be the most unsafe for investment.

In London, where Credit Default Swaps (CDS) are traded, the price for insuring $10 million worth of Argentina’s debt stood at $788,000 while the price to insure the Government of Pakistan-guaranteed debt skyrocketed to $950,000 — something that has never happened before — Pakistan’s debt is now the priciest to insure (read: the London market is contemplating a default-like scenario).

Pakistan’s total foreign debt and liabilities have now crossed the $45 billion mark. ‘Pakistan: Could the Political Chaos Lead to Sovereign Default?’ a report by Citibank, asserts “if Pakistan opted to default, it would have to reschedule all of its debts, which amounts to $2.6 billion in self-issued bonds and $13.9 billion in bilateral debt”. The report expects the “Pakistani rupee’s fall to continue in light of government inaction and the break-up of the government coalition”.

Pakistan is teetering on the brink of default. The rupee has lost some 20 per cent of its value over the past quarter and the KSE-100 Index is down a whopping 45 per cent. Pakistan cannot do without the IMF, the Asian Development Bank (ADB), the Islamic Development Bank and another Saudi oil facility.

&lt;b&gt;The nations is indebted to the untiring efforts of the mad lawyers, payrolled journalists, dumb civil society and of course, the honourable judges. Their untiring efforts have made all this possible in record time&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is some refreshing news from The News:</p>
<p><b> Back to 1999 in a Hurry</b><br />
Of the 192 members of the United Nations, Pakistan’s sovereign debt is now the riskiest. For the week ending Aug 29, Government of Pakistan bonds overtook Argentina’s to be the most unsafe for investment.</p>
<p>In London, where Credit Default Swaps (CDS) are traded, the price for insuring $10 million worth of Argentina’s debt stood at $788,000 while the price to insure the Government of Pakistan-guaranteed debt skyrocketed to $950,000 — something that has never happened before — Pakistan’s debt is now the priciest to insure (read: the London market is contemplating a default-like scenario).</p>
<p>Pakistan’s total foreign debt and liabilities have now crossed the $45 billion mark. ‘Pakistan: Could the Political Chaos Lead to Sovereign Default?’ a report by Citibank, asserts “if Pakistan opted to default, it would have to reschedule all of its debts, which amounts to $2.6 billion in self-issued bonds and $13.9 billion in bilateral debt”. The report expects the “Pakistani rupee’s fall to continue in light of government inaction and the break-up of the government coalition”.</p>
<p>Pakistan is teetering on the brink of default. The rupee has lost some 20 per cent of its value over the past quarter and the KSE-100 Index is down a whopping 45 per cent. Pakistan cannot do without the IMF, the Asian Development Bank (ADB), the Islamic Development Bank and another Saudi oil facility.</p>
<p><b>The nations is indebted to the untiring efforts of the mad lawyers, payrolled journalists, dumb civil society and of course, the honourable judges. Their untiring efforts have made all this possible in record time</b></p>
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		<title>By: barristerakc</title>
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		<dc:creator>barristerakc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zeeshan, good work mate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zeeshan, good work mate!</p>
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		<title>By: zeeshan</title>
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		<dc:creator>zeeshan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kaami, there is NOTHING that you can do to enlighten dark minds. People like MB, TEETH, DOCTOR, ADNAN SIDDIQI, they have closed the doors to any kind of possibility that would make them accept a fact. These people are blind and it is because of such people, Pakistan will soon be divided into different pieces and we are all doomed.

Musharraf has been gone for quite some days now and I still see absolutely no will to help reduce cost of wheat, sugar, rice, oil and other important stuff that we consume daily. IMF and WORLDBANK are taking over our economy again and that means that with in a couple of years, we&#039;ll have to file bankruptcy. Pakistan has started to take its last breaths. Now when people like Zardari and Nawaz are back, it&#039;s going to die only faster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaami, there is NOTHING that you can do to enlighten dark minds. People like MB, TEETH, DOCTOR, ADNAN SIDDIQI, they have closed the doors to any kind of possibility that would make them accept a fact. These people are blind and it is because of such people, Pakistan will soon be divided into different pieces and we are all doomed.</p>
<p>Musharraf has been gone for quite some days now and I still see absolutely no will to help reduce cost of wheat, sugar, rice, oil and other important stuff that we consume daily. IMF and WORLDBANK are taking over our economy again and that means that with in a couple of years, we&#8217;ll have to file bankruptcy. Pakistan has started to take its last breaths. Now when people like Zardari and Nawaz are back, it&#8217;s going to die only faster.</p>
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