Lockers looted again!!

The people of Karachi suffer yet another shock as the HBL cantonement branch of shahra e faisal was totally looted by two men who entered it at around 8pm on sunday night wearing uniforms of HBL security staff, tied the guards up and used gas cutters to break into 66 lockers.  These robbers got away with sacks full of millions in cash and jewelry.

What is really weird is that these incidents are happening with more frequency in this city and yet the government or the bank authorities seem to be totally helpless in this situation. Obviously robberies have happened before and will continue to happen but imagine what a customer goes through when their entire lives saving, jewelry and cash not to mention the dollars they hoarded recently dissapear one fine day. Banks do not offer compensation more than 10 lac Rs per locker and this can result in a major loss!

We can all only indulge in caution and pray that such an incident does not befall us. Remember keeping all your eggs in one basket is always maximum risk.

Full story Dawn

25 Comments so far

  1. barristerakc on October 21st, 2008 @ 3:25 pm

    And once again the Pashtun Speaking Men robbed us again. The only solution to stop the menace is to give jobs (especially in security firms/low labor ones) to people with only Karachi domicile.


  2. maha (mahasyed) on October 21st, 2008 @ 5:01 pm

    @barristerakc
    How dou you know the men who looted the bank were pashtuns.


  3. Adnan Siddiqi (adnansiddiqi) on October 21st, 2008 @ 6:54 pm

    Because that Pashtoon was the driver of Urdu speaking guy Chishti who ordered him to grab some money as Altaf Bai needs new blankets in London.


  4. tzaidi on October 21st, 2008 @ 9:02 pm

    @ shut up adnan siddiqi and grow up please.

    @Maha, please read the news carefully, better try dailytimes!!


  5. barristerakc on October 21st, 2008 @ 11:21 pm

    Nizam told the police that the two men told him that they were sent by a bank official to check on security. They were talking in Pushto and suddenly turned on him, tied him up and switched off the lights as they entered the bank. “I do not know what they did next,” said Nizam.
    (source: http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008\10\21\story_21-10-2008_pg12_)


  6. Faisal.K (faisalk) on October 22nd, 2008 @ 12:56 am

    Actually no offense to any pashtuns on here but at this point i also think high security jobs should be provided to people who can be tracked to their homes in Karachi.


  7. maha (mahasyed) on October 22nd, 2008 @ 8:30 am

    no doubt a very sad incident, but rightnow we should concentrate on taking some effective security measures so that these kind a incidents should be prevented. I think if bank officials could provide the guards with itinerary plans of every person who’s gonna visit the bank after bank closure could be helpful so that guard could be well informed and are not fooled like this. one thing that needs to be clear is that, whoever commits a crime will be punished but the whole nation to which the person belongs shall not be accused for the crime. We mohajirs, punjabis, sindhis or pathans cannot face the challenges posed by the world all alone, we need to be united and its high time we realize this ourselves cuz no one will come to unite us.


  8. maha (mahasyed) on October 22nd, 2008 @ 8:31 am

    no doubt a very sad incident, but rightnow we should concentrate on taking some effective security measures so that these kind a incidents should be prevented. I think if bank officials could provide the guards with itinerary plans of every person who’s gonna visit the bank after bank closure could be helpful so that guard could be well informed and are not fooled like this. one thing that needs to be clear is that, whoever commits a crime will be punished but the whole nation to which the person belongs shall not be accused for the crime. We mohajirs, punjabis, sindhis or pathans cannot face the challenges posed by the world all alone, we need to be united and its high time we realize this ourselves cuz no one elese will come to unite us.


  9. barristerakc on October 22nd, 2008 @ 3:40 pm

    @maha

    1- Banks should not out-source there security personals from private security firms but hire and train there own teams (HBL is the only bank which has its own security team).
    2- There should be a law enforced that security or any jobs (in public sector) should be advertised and preferably given to a local (in this case a Karachite).
    3- Banks should keep a log (and I know it’s a difficult one since lot of black money goes into lockers) of a clients processions and insure it.
    4- It’s pretty much clear now (and I am talking from a professional POV) that people from different origins (and a great majority more then 90% are non-Karachites) are involved in serious crimes. Most of them hail from Bhawalnagar, Interior Sindh, Southern Punjab, Baloch (Makranis and of course, the Pakhtoons. (Demography of crime by Dr.Wajid Zuberi – a PhD in Criminology published his thesis backing this statement – his research was based on checking the domiciles of all convicts in all the jails of Karachi.
    5- We the real residents of Karachi, the owners of this land can not tolerate the bandits, robbers robbing us, raping our women (remember the post-Bhutto assassination mad-race and looting done by Sindhis and Pakhtoons) and will tolerate our hard earned money from our “halal-ke-kamai” from 9-5 proffesional jobs to end up with the bandit passer-e-zameen.

    No-One wants to generalize, “generalization” creates wars, chaos but there’s a limit Bhai Sahab – there’s a politically correct word for it and that is “profiling” and that what we have successfully done.


  10. barristerakc on October 22nd, 2008 @ 6:21 pm

    Some Stats from Karachi Area (ONLY)

    Murder (2007)184, 487 (Uptill Wednesday 22, 2008)
    Bank Dacoity (2007)3, 11 (Uptill Wednesday 22, 2008)
    Car Theft (2007)462, 752 (Uptill Wednesday 22, 2008)
    Kidnapping (2007)181, 418 (Uptill Wednesday 22, 2008)
    /Abduction


  11. mastqalandar on October 22nd, 2008 @ 7:21 pm

    barristerakc,

    A criminal is a criminal, doesn’t matter he is Pashtun or Muhajir.

    Its the failure of current Govt of MQM and PPP that should be questioned.

    Isn’t that a responsibility of the GOVT? to protect and serve the people?

    Even after the death of BB, it was the responsiblity of the govt (MQM included) at that time to protect the people. Which they miserably failed to do (as usual).

    Now you can blame the race, the culture, the urban/rural divide and what not.


  12. mastqalandar on October 22nd, 2008 @ 7:26 pm

    Is it not the responsibility of the Govt to protect the people?

    so both PPP and MQM are responsible for this looting and if they had any honor (like educated people do) they would have resigned from their posts.

    But no, they will not. This is not what they are in Govt for. They are in Govt to loot and plunder.


  13. tzaidi on October 22nd, 2008 @ 10:36 pm

    @mastqalandar : your argument that whatever happens during the tenor of any government is the fault of that government is baseless. If I apply your theory to the period of early khalifite rule then what you have to say……………. Was it their fault, too?

    Criminals will always be there, that’s they way it is, where there is good, you will find evil next to it. So, please stop criticizing any government before realizing the ground realities.

    If you I take your argument of putting the blame to government, then who was responsible for death of Liaquat Ali Khan, who was responsible for loosing wars in 1948, 1965, 1971 and 2002? These are just few instances, if I include all what happened in our country then list will go on and on.

    I think what Barrister sahib is trying the convey that the security situation, over all, should be made better and efforts should be put in place to recruit people who are known to the stakeholders. Hiring a guy from another city (without any reference check) to guard your life savings will only entail the risk of being robbed. So, you decide what eill be the prudent thing to do in these kind of situations?


  14. mastqalandar on October 23rd, 2008 @ 12:29 am

    tzaidi,

    Have you read any thing about the Khilafat? if you read it, you will know how they lived and how they served? and if the people suffered, who did they held responsible? Didn’t you read the famous saying of Hazrat Umar that if a dog dies on the banks of a river out of hunger, I would be held responsible.

    Yes the Govt is responsible and should take actions to provide security to people and their properties be it a MQM govt, a PPP govt or PML or JI govt.

    Yes, there will always be criminals but does that mean that the Govt should take it easy and relax?


  15. zeeshan on October 23rd, 2008 @ 1:16 am

    There is a solution to kill 90% of the criminal activities in Karachi. Kick Afghans and majority of the pashtoon’s out of this city and it’ll get real clean.

    They are involved in almost all types of crimes. Drugs, weapon supply, murders, car theft, bank theft, sexual abuses etc etc

    It’s time we start to control our city and apply strict laws. If anyone wants to come here for work and to earn money, they should not treat Karacih like a bitch. They need to act properly and respect this city that not only feeds the locals but also the rest of the Pakistan.

    If they can’t do that, they need to go and go right away.


  16. barristerakc on October 23rd, 2008 @ 3:17 pm

    Mastqalander,

    Government makes the laws and the police implement it where judiciary is there to keep a “check and balance”. Unfortunately, the law-enforcement authorities in Karachi are aliens in Karachi and that’s exactly the problem.

    Babar Khatta, IG Sindh is from NWFP

    Mr. Rahoo Khan Brohi, AIG is from the borders of Balochistan and NWFP.

    ZAFAR AHMAD FAROOQI, AIG, Investigation – from Lahore.

    DIG Traffic is a Pashtun.

    DIGs, PPO, CCPOs,TOs (TPOs) – 80% are not from Karachi – forget, the lower cadre (low ranking police) they are from Punjab majority and rest from Sindh.

    And we talk about “OWNERSHIP”, “IMPOWERMENT” wah wah!

    Zaidi Bhai great work! Zeeshan buhat achay!


  17. Shamsi (shamsi) on October 23rd, 2008 @ 10:56 pm

    When LAW is Dysfunational and Impotent, such things happen,

    The ‘Former Mujahid’ now "terrorist" are training guys of age group 25 – 35 an training them in FATA they all belonging to Ahmed Shah Masood school of thought – are deeply involved in armed robberies in Metros of Pakistan. Their objective is to break in the banks, primarily then into the Upper Middle Class localities where their brether ‘HAD’ of Have been serving as securitiy guards and marked the houses where valuables can be Quick to GET by holding infants or Elderly at gunpoint, in the heist if they GET HORNY they RAPE Girls – Women which goes un-reported,

    and Yes There is No Doubt, majority robberies are for funding the FATA fighters, and Opportunitist are hiding under them. – Key point is… IF during any HEIST by chance if someone stay sense and bring out Quran beg them for mercy and to spare away, They Immediately leave with whatever is available, and walk away quietly.
    – – – Those who don’t leave are from OPPORTUNITIST Groups claiming every share in this METRO OF KARACHI

    Faheem Siddiqui of GEO & Asif Masood at DAWN are gathering data to report this "domestic" terrorism for funding "respective" sponsor Organisation.

    POLICE, well they GET their own share from every HEIST (I believe)


  18. barristerakc on October 23rd, 2008 @ 11:10 pm

    Great! Since we have a consensus, what are we going to do about it? I am in a process of making a core-group in dealing with criminals and bandits (providing and helping them on legal issues and preparing them against threats from bandits – especially in arranging arm licenses for the Ahel-e-Zuban – it’s a must.).

    (sorry for being a racist but only ahal-e-zuban are welcome)

    email: akchishti@hotmail.com (yes, you can add me on fb)


  19. tzaidi on October 24th, 2008 @ 12:52 am

    Oh! Bhai mastqalandar !!!
    By Khilafat I mean all the Khalifas we had after Khilafat-e-rashida, thats from Banu Ummiyah to Bannu Abbas till last khilafat in Turkey. For your information I have read and have pretty good knowledge of Khilafat (in all eras).

    I am no-one to comment on khilafat-e-rashida (main tou un kay jootay ki khaak bhi naheen), but the later chain of khilafat had a very colorful history, which we Muslim pretend to forget, anyways that’s not the subject of this post.

    As Barrister sahib mentioned most of the law enforcement agencies’ top officials are not from Karachi, so how one expect them to understand the pain we go through every single day of our lives. They are here to serve their term and then they will be posted somewhere else.

    This is not the solution, if we want to free Karachi from crime, then we have to make sure that the law enforcer is from the same locality and then only they will be answerable to the people in real sense.


  20. Shamsi (shamsi) on October 24th, 2008 @ 3:18 pm

    G G G , Khalifa Nayee Bawarchi ko kaha jata hai Subcontinent,

    – ab woh musalman he nahi exist kartay jo Khlaifa ban sakayn,, jaysay amal hotay hain awam kai waysa hukamran musalaat kar deay jatay hain., ALLAH (swt) ke taraf sai,


  21. mastqalandar on October 24th, 2008 @ 6:48 pm

    tzaidi,

    again, who makes the rules? Govt or sabzee wala?

    was not or is not MQM in govt?

    Even before current GOvt, MQM had free hand and was given all it wanted by Pervez Musharraf.

    Now tell me? who is responsible?

    The truth is if the


  22. mastqalandar on October 24th, 2008 @ 6:56 pm

    it is the responsiblity of Govt.

    But with MQM like any other political party, their goal is not to save and protect people but to implement their own idealogy like Bhuttoism, Altafism etc.


  23. barristerakc on October 24th, 2008 @ 9:27 pm

    @mastqalandar,
     
    You don’t get it do you? Making cliché statements does not work. No-one disagrees on government’s role on protecting the citizens of the land (MAJ made it clear during this his first speech at the constituent assembly on the role of the government in providing security).
     
    What’s we are talking about is practicality and implementation of laws. We are talking about in consensus about precaution (from crimes and criminals) in Karachi’s context. We are talking about “Local Representation”, Greater Share of Resources while you are making cliché statements.  Right now we are facing rapid deterioration in the security situation. Our police ordinance, which governs the conduct of police in our society traces its lineage to the 1860s, when it was created not to “serve and protect” the local citizenry, but to keep them cowed down and make them obey the imperial pronouncements of an unrepresentative power. If you read police-ordinance 2002 – more and more sane officers have urged the need to form policing on the Irish Constabulary model in Karachi and around Pakistan which is based on local representation. That’s the only solution.
     
    There seems to an understand developing in Karachi and Sindh that migrants from other provinces are involved in crimes in Karachi and that needs to be checked and sorted out – especially Pakhtoons and from Punjab – I am predicting major rioting in times to come (Allah Khair Karay!)


  24. tzaidi on October 25th, 2008 @ 3:04 am

    please read the news item : http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/30/1469342.aspx

    These Talibans have been financing their wars by harvesting OPIUM. no wonder they will rob banks to finance their objectives in Karachi.

    I hope Karachi stays clear from talbanization.


  25. MS (msms) on October 30th, 2008 @ 9:58 am

    tzaidi,

    I was about to post the same link but just saw your message. Thanks for sharing the same with us. It is really frightening to even imagine Taliban on the streets of Karachi or any other modern city in Pakistan.

    MQM has been raising voice about it for quite some time now but no one is paying attention! Pathan leaders (Shahi Syed, Ayub Awan, etc), Jamatis and other parties are not paying any attention because they want this to happen for their own evil reasons.



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