Are pakhtuns being targeted?

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Lately there have been shady reports coming in from different parts of Karachi that Pakhtun hotels and dhabas are being put out of commission overnight.

There are also reports that Pakhtuns are being systematically sought out and removed from mohajir based areas as the leader of MQM has warned his party of the dangers these people somehow pose. Removal means eviction by landlords, refusal to buy goods from pakhtun businesses and so on

I thought it would be a good idea for us to engage in some citizen journalism and see if this is actually taking place or is more here say to fan the flames of ethnic violence in our city. This can easily be accomplished as most of us live in different areas of Karachi and can report via comments as to what is actually going on while trying to stay away from a political tilt in any direction.

So answer the above poll and tell us why you think this is or is not happening, based on your own locality. Pretty soon we should have a city wide grasp of the ground reality in this matter

36 Comments so far

  1. kaami on November 22nd, 2008 @ 1:14 am

    One thing I know for sure is that Pakhtuns in Karachi are not lame cows that can be jostled around. If what the writer is saying was true then we would have already had blood on the streets. A trailer of that was seen after Benazir’s assassination.

    In this city nobody even dare get rid of the monstrous public transport system that we are stuck with since the past three decades, let alone anything else. However, in the violent times, like the ones we are experiencing fear and suspicion rules supreme and people do get caught in the middle.


  2. khaled90 on November 22nd, 2008 @ 1:25 am

    An other failed attempt to defame MQM.

    The people who are vote Yes they should mention their areas and personal stories so that it can be verified.


  3. shoaib on November 22nd, 2008 @ 2:54 am

    @Faisal.K
    Just a shamefull article from you. I can strongly feel the bias and hatred in you approach generally against Mohajirs and specially against MQM. By the way why don’t you show your full name Faisal Khan.


  4. Faisal.K (faisalk) on November 22nd, 2008 @ 3:14 am

    Perhaps you people need to read it again, i am saying tell us why it is not happening in your areas, its not an attempt to defame its an attempt to let people know that all this talk about how muhajirs are moving pathans out of Karachi is B.S(has nothing to do with reality).


  5. wkhang on November 22nd, 2008 @ 4:45 am

    There were no issues until Mr. Altaf Started in his speach on media.
    Just one Question, if Mr. Altaf is an honest why he cant come to Pakistan ?
    Why he cant face the harsh truth ?
    Why he cant live with us here in Kai ?
    Why Why Why ?

    I am not blaming here on MQM or Mr. Altaf, I do respect him as well others who are here and not doing enough to cope with this kind of issues which are Media Based.

    Lets say if MEDIA become POSITIVE I mean POSITIVE, do we see these issues.

    Who gave the BOOM to Former Chief Justice Issue ? Yes it was MEDIA.

    Who always critisize Govt. weather they good or bad, instead of providing hand to hand ? Yes its MEDIA.

    Who plays a vital role in growing a nudity in our culture ? MEDA

    Who plays a vital role to change a living style ? MEDIA

    what you see, our mind try to do it !!

    So there is no fault fight or TARGET on anyone weather he is Pustu,Punjabi,Mahajir,Balochi,Sindhi or what so ever.

    We have one house with several rooms in it and we have to share it, my brother can come to my room, share the good and bad time both,
    (GET IT)????

    End of Conversation.
    http://pakteve.blogspot.com/


  6. human01 on November 22nd, 2008 @ 4:55 am

    Dude, There are lot of newspapers around which are already doing great job to spread such vicious rumors……you don’t need to fuel that.
    And wait for a while….Dungar Doc & Co. will get you all the evidence you need to prove your point…..


  7. zeeshan on November 22nd, 2008 @ 7:49 am

    NO they are not and well, it’s about time someone does something about them or they’ll take over our beloved city!


  8. barristerakc on November 22nd, 2008 @ 8:57 am

    I fail to understand as to WHY there are only 2 Refugee Camps in Punjab as Opposed to more then 50 legal and illegal one’s in Karachi?

    The Punjab Government is unofficially discouraging Pashtoons to settle in Punjab (recently one of our driver’s family from Parachinar was not allowed to even cross Attock Bridge?) what’s happening? So they came via Balochistan route to Karachi.

    The burden of refugees coming because of the “rightful” War Against Terror to Karachi has increased many folds and that can not be tolerated. The demography of Karachi can not be allowed to change.

    We can not allow Karachi to be another, Balochistan

    PS.
    I am sorry that some of innocent Punjabis/Pashtuns feelings get hurt because of my comment’s – with the amount of hate mails and complaint’s I get every day but you must admit that “getting hurt“ is a lot more tolerable than getting oppressed, looted, burned, and killed.


  9. balma on November 22nd, 2008 @ 10:10 am

    Panjab kay leaders and babus are usually bigger haramis than Sindh’s. It is the same reason most people from present day India were discouraged from settling in West Panjab in 1947/48 and moved to Sindh, though culturally most north Indians would have felt more at home in Lahore than in Karachi.


  10. kaami on November 22nd, 2008 @ 10:50 am

    @Faisal K. piyare this is a subtle way to spread doubt. I cant help but smile, but this is Karachi my friend and people can judge from your motivations.


  11. MB (kar_munib) on November 22nd, 2008 @ 12:05 pm

    Well, since all SINDHI PUNJABI MOHAJIR PUSHTUN etc. have biased retards as their leaders so this should be no surprise…..

    On other note, who knows, may be the ESTABLISHMENT is preparing ground for next GAME….

    you know what i mean ….


  12. fas4u on November 22nd, 2008 @ 12:21 pm

    I think there should be some check on the uncontrolled influx of up country public in Karachi. Other wise, we will become Red Indians in our own city. I remember, in the mid 90ies, one of my friend tried to buy a house in Quetta. And after he purchased the house, he was forced to sell it due to death threats from local residents. We urdu speaking people can’t even think of buying any property in Pushtoon cities such as Peshawar and Quetta, then why these people are allowed to buy properties every where and any where in Karachi. And the problem is if one pathan comes and buys house or shop then he brings 100s more and before you realize, the entire area is converted into pushtoon dominated area.

    I am glade that some one has given a thought to this issue.


  13. d0ct0r on November 22nd, 2008 @ 2:04 pm

    First of all let me salute you for having courage to discuss this issue, even the concerned information minister and the channels affected were sacared to death to name the culprit who was involved in threatening cable operators and taking their channels off air . Like those channels shortly these MQMized clowns here would start tagging you anti mohajir and a establishment’s conspiracy against MQM .


  14. odin on November 22nd, 2008 @ 2:16 pm

    fas4u:

    I think there should be some check on the uncontrolled influx of up country public in Karachi. Other wise, we will become Red Indians in our own city.

    dude, karachi is not your city. Karachi is a part of Sindh and Sindh is a province of Pak, that’s why every Pakistani has every legal right to come and settle down here. Stop spreading hate, and mind it your yourself are a mohajir, an immigrant.


  15. d0ct0r on November 22nd, 2008 @ 2:33 pm


    Now let me start my comments by quoting absconding grand terrorist Altaf(MQMized clowns here do follow his word religiously).

    Altaf recently in his demonic speeches had been urging his MQM militia members to start stockpiling new and latest weapon and do shooting practice with those weapons. "Quit clerk type govt jobs, do not feel ashamed in doing some work by opening even a tea stall or thhelaas (road side vendors) . In this manner you could earn money and secure your own lanes and lives and work as night watchman in your area " (now obviously no one should have objection to them setting up tea stalls at least its way better and dignified then resorting to Bhathakhori/extortion BUT ) as we are all aware that quetta tea shops are already present all around karachi and are doing a great job when it comes to serving tea to tea hungry Karachiites. In North Nazimabad MQMized goons threatened these tea hotels and MQM’s unit goons have setup tea thhelaas and have threatened the shopkeepers in the area to stop buying tea from Quetta tea shops and instead buy tea from their stalls. Now obviously shopkeepers didn’t had much choice so initially they started ordering tea from MQM’s unit sponsored tea stalls but soon most of them quit patronising these MQM tea stalls coz according to them the taste of tea wasn’t up to the mark.(Obviously making a good cup of tea isn’t that easy as collecting bhatha/extortion money.) . Similarly in Block G North Nazimqabad Haidry Market area, the pathan Night watchmen(chokidars) have been threatened to pack up as Altaf wants his Unit and Sector goons to do the job of chokidari in the area . Now i am not sure if Market shop keepers would be comfortable to have these extortionist as their chokidars . Lets see how all this plays out in comming days. Another worrisome news is the return of MQM’s terror wing chief(this guy is 10x more dangerous and venomous then Clown Altaf) Saleem Shehzad back to Karachi after 15 years of exile(he was briefly here few days back to attend his mom’s feunral). This time though he is here to reorganize and restructure MQM. So you can easily imagine whats in store for Karachi in coming days.

    MQMization of Karachi is definitely underway and these MQM militia goons are definitely cooking something up. Way the absconding grand terrorist is urging his militia to start stockpiling weapons it seems they’ll make 12 may 2007 massacre look small .


  16. kaami on November 22nd, 2008 @ 7:42 pm

    @DOCTOR Despite your usual hollow arguments it is also a fact that:

    There is an operation going on in the north and as a result the greatest influx of refugees is being seen in this city which is farthest from the conflict. MQM concerns are ligitimate because if the crackpot jihaadi’s are cornered there, they will surely try to blow things up here and Islamabad. Also, not the poor Pakhtun’s but rest assured quite a few with loyalties to toiletries like Osama Bin Laden, Baitullah Mahsood, General Hameed Gul, Qazi Hussain Ahmed and (chotaa bhandaa) Imran Khan will try their best to stirr up trouble. MQM should work closely with ANP on this, because their leadership is also a target.

    It is also a fact that both Jamaat-e-Islami and Alqaeda want this city back, and their well oiled propaganda machine on the web and in the media is fully capable of running orchestrated campaigns and spread dis-information, just like its being spread here.

    Right now it is also obvious that PPP, MQM and ANP are being targetted for ridicule and Nawaz Sharif’s party is being portrayed as the next saviours.At the same time MQM is being pushed into the Mohajir only trap with the usual labels. This is very well coordinated, they do run their campaigns well.

    Peolple of Karachi got the return for what they did for the victims of the earthquake in the mayhem of December of 2007, so there is no room to be complacent. Its prudent to stretch a hand of friendship and open mindedness with offers to build for the good of the country, at the same time there is no cause for being complacent and turning your back towards any martial race in this God forsaken country. Memories of daylight massacres of thousands in Aligarh, Qasbah, Orangi, Sohrab Goth, Hyderabad May 12 and December 7 are still fresh in peoples memory. Not to mention the countless Bomb Blasts this city endured thanks to our Jiohaadi bros. Such events should never allowed to be repeated.


  17. kaami on November 22nd, 2008 @ 7:56 pm

    @DOCTOR BTW you are pretty late on the MQMIZATION OF KARACHI THEORY. My friend it happened around two decades ago and still going strong. And despite the eccentricities of its leader Altaf, I have no problem with what he is saying. He has got his history right, his team is good and the future is not in jeopardy. However, they can do even better without his antiques but then again he is eccentric.


  18. zeeshan on November 22nd, 2008 @ 11:49 pm

    Odin: MQM owns Karachi. Urdu speakings own it just like punjabies own the whole province, pathans own NWFP and Baloochs own Balochistan. Urdu speaking people own Karachi, Hyderabad. Hamaray baap ka hai yeh shehar, ukhar saktay ho kuch tu ukhar kar dikhao. We were never welcomed in other cities and we never will be. If can’t receive acceptance from the other side, we shall reciprocate it :)


  19. d0ct0r on November 23rd, 2008 @ 12:05 am

    I would sincerely advice dou number peer Altaf to first teach his militia goons how to prepare a good cup of tea. Currently they’re just good at pulling a trigger and extorting money by threatening others. If they are to compete against Quetta tea shops all around Karachi then they should first learn how to make a good cup of tea if they’re to make their ends meet by just selling tea(i.e. not resorting to Bhathakhori ) ,simply threatening the surrounding shopkeepers and existing customers of Quetta tea shop won’t work. I suggest Altaf should come live on some cooking channel and personally teach them in his typical demonic style.


  20. kaami on November 23rd, 2008 @ 1:09 am

    @DOCTOR I do admire you imagination and your ability to dream up stuff. Dont worry Quetta Tea Stalls are doing good and as I said Pakhtun community here is more than capable of causing a major blood bath, so don’t you worry unnecessarily for them. However, Pakhtun’s of ANP are a target all over the NWFP and also, here in Karachi and you know who is after them.


  21. kaami on November 23rd, 2008 @ 1:32 am

    @zeeshan I dont subscribe to your line of reasoning either. Nobody owns nobody, we are in this together. Karachi is not an island, and like any major cosmo it attracts people of sizes and shapes. As the biggest political party of this city its MQM’s responsibility to keep it sane and safe. To achieve that they have to work with all the other stake holders, both stick and carrot are required. I believe, under the circumstances, Muttahida’s leadership is doing a good job please don’t sabotage their efforts.


  22. d0ct0r on November 23rd, 2008 @ 1:32 am

    Here in Karachi things are a bit different. If Altaf’s militia pushes paktuns too much against the wall here in Karachi then these very secular pakhtuns of ANP whom you’ve just mentioned would be the one retaliating .

    Anyways i still would like Altaf to come live on a cooking channel , Altaf ka dastarkhwan live from International Secretariat . Ever since his divorce Altaf must have gotten good at making reasonable cup of tea.


  23. kaami on November 23rd, 2008 @ 2:26 am

    @DOCTOR Again you are dreaming up things, Muttahida and ANP are already working very closely, its people like you who want to stir things up. Karachi is not monolithic like Lahore, so a retaliatory force in this city is a reality for all the major ethnic groups living here. When there was none, I have seen people being slapped around routinely in bussess and university campuses. The current state of affairs will continue until this nation gives up its war mentality, tribal machoism and love of weapons, hence, choosing to live as a civilized society.

    And as I said earlier, whatever you say, Altaf is doing well and, unlike his counter parts, he has shown how you can delegate responsibilities, thus finding enough time to indulge in eccentricities :-)


  24. d0ct0r on November 23rd, 2008 @ 11:58 am

    Muttahida and ANP are already working very closely

    That’s where you got it all wrong. Altaf is often seen complaining and whining that despite ANP being targeted by taliban up in north they continue to support and even turn a blind towards the "talibanization campaign" publicized by Altaf here in Karachi. And this registration of Karachiites campaign won’t go down well with ANP either.


  25. cotbeen on November 23rd, 2008 @ 10:55 pm

    On 26 June a local news paper reported the distribution of pamphlets and pasting of posters on the gates of mosque in the area of Shereen Jinnah Colony and Truck stands with the threats to discontinue the supply of oil and goods to NATO troops in one week otherwise to remain prepared for the consequences, “After the deadline, if any truck or trawler is caught supplying diesel, petrol or goods, not only will the vehicle be set on fire but the driver will also be brutally slaughtered."it is reported in the same news that such posters and handbills were pasted a week back, few days after the publishing of this report revealing some suspicious activities in the southern downtowns of Karachi, news start arriving from the northern side lining area of Al-Asif Square and Sohrab Goath about some ProTaliban wall chalking and movements of suspicious vehicles in late hours.
    it was when MQM leader Mr. Altaf Hussain and his Party Rabita committee expressed great concern about such malicious activities in the city; the economical hub of Pakistan, in a series of statements they intimated the law enforcement agencies and governing authorities to take serious notice of such criminal and anti-state activities and made appeals to people to remain alert and put an eye on such criminals.
    On 7th of July, 7 bomb blasts hit the city. All the blast were of low intensity and none of the law enforcement agencies were targeted nor any of the high profile targeted like shopping centre or fun land etc in all blast the target were the low civilized areas which were dominated by Pashtoon, Hindko or otherwise families belonging to NWFP Province of Pakistan resides.
    The question that who might be behind these coward acts of terrorism and what objectives they want to achieve seems to be a mystery. I observed that the only benefit that was achieved from these act is to harass the whole City in general, and the same Transporters involved in transportations of good and fuel to all over the country in particular, in addition with creating a rift and Separation Line between the Urdu Speaking Majority and the Pashtoon Settlers once again, As this Rift and Separation is in great favour of these Taliban elements to hide themselves and move freely. Any misunderstanding and disturbance in the city can act as a shelter to hide and operate freely in the City, any ethnical imbalance and disturbance will give the police and law enforcement agencies hard time to tackle with and this may help them in achieving their goals. In case of any danger they may exploit the situation, create an environment of ethnical Riots so that they may remain safe and unseen.
    Possibly the Posh areas of City can work as Taliban’s Command and Control System where as the Pashtoon Speaking Areas will be there ultimate hideouts and operation centers and the separation line will be there most favorable thing to engage the law enforcement agencies and resident of these areas.
    So Karachiat what do u think this ethnical imbalance and tension is in favour of the city or a catalyst element for Taliban Elements to hide themselves and operate freely?


  26. HITMAN (hitman) on November 24th, 2008 @ 6:31 pm

    Muttahida and ANP are already working very closely
    This is a joke right? If u mean that they r working closely to eliminate each others workers by target killing then its ok.


  27. mkasa on November 25th, 2008 @ 8:10 pm

    For All of your Question , this is the only answer:
    Be Unite , Open Your eyes:
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=zaid+hamid&search_type=&aq=f


  28. aksbeat on November 28th, 2008 @ 5:19 pm

    I’m really sorry but this is true that this kind of thing is happening in Karachi. I’ve seen a Pathan/Pukhtoon who was beaten by a man without any reason. I feel really sorry for them but what I’ve heard about these Pathan/Pukhtoons after Benazir’s death is dreadful.

    Its not the right way for forcing someone to leave any part of this country. There must be some annunciation first by the local authority, which I think never made.

    Pathans are fine people and I think they are the only ones who are good at hardworking jobs and works as Drivers, Guards, Labours and Chai Walay. I like Pathan ki Chai aur Paratha. Anyway there are BAD Pathans/Pukhtoon too because of whom these GOOD pathans are paying. I hope everything gets ok soon.


  29. d0ct0r on November 30th, 2008 @ 11:58 am

    Altaf bai’s unit terrorists have beaten up pathan tandoor owners as well in several areas, now what next these terrorists would be setting up their own tandoors and would be selling bread(roti)? Altaf bai better start a cooking channel, because his goons would need a lot of training if he seriously wants them to quit terrorism and earn a decent and honest living.

    http://www.ummatpublication.com/2008/11/28/lead20.html


  30. d0ct0r on November 30th, 2008 @ 1:39 pm

    MQM’s terror wing chief NROfied British terrorist Saleem Shahzad’s visit has started showing its true colours.

    Altaf goons simply won’t understand all that. These days they are not even sparing mochi(cobbler) and Peanut sellers on pushcarts. They have beaten them up at several places . Several more Quetta Tea shops have been raided and ransacked by MQM’s unit goons in Liaqtabad Paposh Nazimabad area. Altaf’s unit goons are obviously trying to provoke and stir up some serious conflict. As i earlier said Altaf should first teach his unit terrorist how to prepare a good cup of tea or how to mend shoes before flushing and beating mochis and tea walas because currently his gun touting goons are just good at collecting bhatha(extortion money) so this transition obviously might be painful for them.


  31. d0ct0r on November 30th, 2008 @ 1:40 pm

    Senior Police officials and investigating agencies have compiled a list of terrorists involved in ethnic violence and terrorism. Majority of them belong to MQM’s unit/sector terror cells . Police officials plan to take action against these terrorist who are trying to stir ethnic violence under the pretext of talibanization .

    http://www.ummatpublication.com/2008/11/28/lead15.html


  32. d0ct0r on November 30th, 2008 @ 1:43 pm

    Mochi, tandoor wala, chai wala, dry fruit wala

    MQM’s terror wing chief NROfied British terrorist Saleem Shahzad and his fraud pir grand terorist Altaf seem to have thought of some seriously ambitious plan to rehabilitate MQM’s unit and sector terrorists.


  33. Sitting on a ticking time bomb! | Karachi Metblogs (pingback) on November 30th, 2008 @ 2:57 pm

    […] the last few days, there had been reports of Pakhtuns being targetted in various parts of the city. Needless to say ethnic violence had to follow as seen last night. MQM […]


  34. d0ct0r on December 3rd, 2008 @ 12:12 am


    An unidentified man was shot dead by a mob at Shama Ground in Sector 11 of the Orangi Town. The Mominabad police said that the miscreants also burnt the body.

    The Zaman Town police said that a mob shot an owner of a garbage godown at Sector 50-C in Korangi. They said the miscreants also set the godown on fire and threw the victim, Juma Gul, son of Ata Mohammed, into the flames.

    The miscreants set fire to a timber shop near Nazia Square in New Karachi. A taxi and a shop were torched in Orangi Town.

    At least five houses were set on fire in Raees Amrohvi Colony, a shantytown in Orangi Town.

    http://dawn.com/2008/12/02/local1.htm


    MQM Altaf bai’s terrorist besides shooting and murdering people are also busy burning down people and torching their property,transport. Although its not surprising as every one is already aware that Altaf’s terrorist have a habit of burning down people alive like they did on 9th April 2008 when they burnt 6 people (including a woman) in Tahir Plaza near city courts.


  35. d0ct0r on December 3rd, 2008 @ 12:13 am

    Life remained paralysed in Orangi Town on Monday as fears of widespread and organised ethnic violence forced the eviction of families from certain blocks and the closure of mainly small businesses. Most of these businesses are owned by immigrants to Karachi from upcountry.

    “More than 30 people, mostly armed, stormed into three streets of the locality and threw stones at the houses before trying to set some of them on fire,”

    As the local population of the area continues to move to safer places, businesses owned by the people from upcountry in Karachi’s other districts have almost completely shut down. Under severe threat, these business owners and residents are either moving back to their hometowns or to localities dominated by their relatives

    “Our people feel that their lives are threatened and they have reason to believe that. In district east and central you will hardly find a single business of our people, as they all have been closed after threats from an armed group,”


    Strife forces many to flee homes

    http://dawn.com/2008/12/02/local3.htm


  36. khaled90 on December 3rd, 2008 @ 1:32 am

    Mohajir women are not only tortured but also raped

    youtube.com/watch?v=4Y25TxRHv9U

    youtube.com/watch?v=WDYkvYp9ofw

    Now who is responsible for all that ???????



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