Karachi voilence – an outside response ?

Just after the attacks in Mumbai Indian leadership started (their media jumping 10 steps ahead) pointing fingers at us, specifically Karachi. In his TV address their top man warned of consequences if appropriate measures not taken (“there would be a cost if suitable measures are not taken“). I take his words very seriously since I trust Indian leadership more than my own, when it comes to words. Though majority sees the current situation in city in an ethnic context, is there anyone who is willing to give a thought to an outside plan? Yes, I know its way too early so that’s why it’s a question. Any media report etc. especially if anyone was caught by police for interrogation? Are they starting the ignition and our people following innocently/deliberately?
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43 Comments so far

  1. d0ct0r on November 30th, 2008 @ 7:07 pm

    Although all this was brewing since so many days when MQM was busy threatening and ransacking pathan businesses but one spark was needed to ignite it all and i think that’s where Indian or their local agents played their role. I see their role in spreading horrific and dreadful rumors which then results in automatic voilent chain reaction and makes their sinister plan easy.


  2. silent (planner) on November 30th, 2008 @ 7:18 pm

    @MB
    Your are pointing in right direction!
    It is very clear now that MQM using Mohajir Rights Card is supported, funded and trained by Indian Agency RAW…
    and India has not accepted PAKISTAN since its inception…
    Using Pakistanis to fight against Pakistan!!
    Karachities.. should be very clear and open their eyes!!
    In Karachi the Local Government is of MQM, in assembly they are in good number then why so called ALTAF Bhai come in Karachi and save our city…
    Altaf Bhai is Altaf Bhagora can only shed crocodile tears…

    Talbanization is just a fake umberella under which MQM is trying to cover there terrorist activities…

    May ALLAH save Karachi from MQM’s Terrorist who are thirsty of blood o innocent people!! I still remember 12 May incident.. what MQM has show to all of us.. For the first time there terrorism was on the record, before there was no one to accept that!

    I know that my words can not change the scenario! But I can only write cause I m away from Karachi… I also know that MQM supportes say that I am JAMATI, but I hate JAMATIIS also, I m pure Mohajir and also not in favor of MQM…

    GOD Bless US!! GOD Bless Karachi!! GOD Bless PAKISTAN!!


  3. wkhang on November 30th, 2008 @ 10:58 pm

    People,
    General Retired Hameed Gul, at Express news, just said that in Karachi RAW is working hard and they have cells over there…

    http://air16.blogspot.com/


  4. azafeer on December 1st, 2008 @ 12:11 am
  5. azafeer on December 1st, 2008 @ 12:12 am

    i just posted a link above..related to the terrorist attack in Mumbai, India. i encourage everyone to go through the posts. i know a lot of you have been keeping an eye on the internet. lately a lot of hatred is pouring out from the Indian side. though these people cant spell for shit, they are trying to use the e-media to create more problems.


  6. cotbeen on December 1st, 2008 @ 1:40 am

    i think k Jo Elements RAW k isharey pr NWFP mie Taliban k Nam pr Active hein or NWFP Ko Pakistan sey alag krney ke Sazish kr rahey hein wo
    Bombay Attacks k Bad Karachi mei Sir Gram ho Gyea hien or yahan ka Amn tabah kr rahey hein


  7. zafirzia on December 1st, 2008 @ 2:21 pm

    AoA all.

    Karachi has been a battlegroud since last 3-4 weeks, before yesterday and day before yesterday already 50-60 activists of various political parties have been killed including MQM haqiqi, ANP, Sunni Tehreek & PPP.

    MQM is solely responsible for the law & order situation in Karachi. MQM is trying to destabilize Karachi and unleash reign of terror as it used to do in the past.

    The people of Karachi are very much aware of MQMs terror activities. The PPP govt is being blackmailed by MQM.

    It is about time that PPP part ways with MQM. This silence shown by the government on the aggravated law and order situation is beyond comprehension. I would request the federal government, interior ministry and the army to take notice of such massive killings which is disrupting the peace, stability & harmony of Karachi . Immediate efforts are needed by the government to restore peace in Karachi .

    ALLAH HUMARA HAMI O NASIR HOOO


  8. kaami on December 1st, 2008 @ 6:36 pm

    All of a sudden our favourite RAW is active every where again, even in the tribal areas. A typical defeatist mentality of laying the blame on others of our own wrong doings.

    @wkhang that Nincompoop Hameed Gul is active again, He is a major part of the problem, a committed jihaadist and the conspiracy theorist. Wasn’t he the one who appeared on Mr. Shahid Masood’s show after the bombing of the Benazir’s convoy in Karachi and, put forward the theory that the explosion could have been caused by a “flying tank mine” as there was no crater caused by the bomb. All this, just to cover up the suicide bomber. He is one of the architects of this suicidal mess and deserves to be slapped around rather than be listened too.


  9. kaami on December 1st, 2008 @ 7:25 pm

    Haven’t anybody thought what have we done in the last one and a half year? We have committed suicide, that’s what we have done. We have turned away from the path of progress / prosperity where people seem to be directing their efforts to building something, setting up businesses and providing employment opportunities. Instead it’s now looking more and more like the 80’s and the 90’s. Similar ethnic strife but a much greater threat by the fanatics, the cleansing of the Shia populations in the North has already started, whole tribes have been given notice. The Hazara population in Quetta is under threat and target killings of Shia’s is gaining momentum. It seems again that this country is bursting from its seams, yet we continue to blame others and cover up the misdeeds of our own. Ironically, those who have focussed their energies on building something are again a target and being labelled as RAW agents and the actions of those who are hell bent upon, killing, destroying and blowing up innocents are being covered up under the garb of outside intervention.

    I ask the question, to our so called brave journalists and bloggers. Why cant we have a post on the activities on crack pots like Osama and Zawahiri. Recently, Mr. Zawahiri asked all Americans to convert and threatened to kill Obama as has dis-owned the faith of his father. Furthermore, nobody, seem to have courage to write about various Lashkar / Jaish groups and their activities. No talk show host or TV channel tries to expose them. In Swat where these fanatics have caused so much ruin, none of the channels has run features on Fazlullah, the evil that he is preaching, none has tried to expose their mentality. Instead all we see and hear puts more pressure on the security forces trying to clean up the mess.

    However, when it comes to Mutthida, the only party trying to build something and give hope to people, trying to maintain order and sanity is being put constantly under pressure, whereas, others have free ride. You guys want to know where RAW had longstanding links, I’ll tell you its ANP, Jeay Sindh, Balloach Nationalists and PPP. I admire ANP of Wali Khan (and before ) because there’s was a principled stance. The great Bachaa Khan was a close friend of Gandhi, disliked Jinnah and was openly against partition. They always had friends and links in India and now after so many years it seems that Bachaa Khan is being vindicated.

    Today the world has changed, countries have lost interest in territorial gain, instead, economics / trade had taken centre stage. There is a new saner President in US, its not a question of who is pro / anti India or who is pro / anti US. The thing that we must realize is that we must openly fight a sinister ideology which is hell bent upon destroying the very fabric of society. We should not to cover up their deeds or try to justify their outrageous actions. Remember, its not the first time in the history of the world that people have fought against injustices, but the methodology that some of us are using is down right repulsive and barbaric.


  10. khaled90 on December 1st, 2008 @ 11:01 pm

    kindly note from where all this trouble starts and what are the areas where trouble is still going on.

    All the areas where suspected talibans fleeing from NWFP are getting refuge.


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  12. wkhang on December 2nd, 2008 @ 2:46 am

    @Kaami,

    It seams that you are against our own people : (,


  13. anjaanay on December 2nd, 2008 @ 9:46 am

    Trouble is in Banaras Orangi where these Militants from N W F P have Come

    Just watch how these militants burnt houses of Raaes Amrohvi Colony….Throughing Petrol Bombs from Mountains..and RANGERS POLICE did nothing y RANGERS and POLICE were silent watching innocent people begging

    Shame on LAW Enforcment Agencies….


  14. HITMAN (hitman) on December 2nd, 2008 @ 11:24 am

    Chowkidars of my street have been threatened with dire consequences if they didnt leave. The two quetta hotels , one of which is almost right underneath MQM Unit 173 of North Nazimabad have been closed. It existed there since 1978 according to the old residents there. The two pathan fruit walas of the same area are gone. I was unable to find the moongphali wala when there used to be quite a few of them.

    Can MQM supporters tell me WTF threat these common dudes were to the city in general & MQM in particular? I see that as a pathetic attemtp to inciter violence & nothing else. Two Patthan Chowkidars of Rado appartment in Gulistan-e-Johar have been shot to death. Chowkidar of Arif Pride in Gulistan-e-Johar was shot last night & is in critical condition. Why these unarmed, non political, poor people is the target of MQM? Why dont u terrorist do a favor to the city & storm Sohrab Goth where criminals of Patthan & Afghan original are actually present & active? Why these people? I can safely bet that both ANP & MQM are on funds from RAW & just making their rozee halal by inciting such violence.


  15. khaled90 on December 2nd, 2008 @ 2:46 pm

    @ Hitman

    All this is happening as according to reports, a mass scale operation is planned against militants in Pukhtoon localities including sohrab goth, afghan basti and banaras.

    So the religious fanatics backed by jamat e islami and others like imran khan are planning wide scale blood shed to avoid this operation.

    in 1986 an operation cleanup on sohrab goth against drug and arms mafia was sabotage when arms Pukhtoons raided Mohajir localities and killed more then 500 hundred people in one night including innocent men women and children girl were raped and houses were torched and the same thing is happening right now.

    Did anyone here speacially noticed that in these Pukhtoon hotels on daily basis more then 10 -20 persons come and spend nights there?

    Who are those people ?
    how can we allow people we don’t know to stay in our mohallas during
    night time ?

    Most of the Roti walas are AFGHANS not Pathans.

    How and why they are operating so freely??


  16. khaled90 on December 2nd, 2008 @ 2:49 pm

    @ Hitman

    when 2 communities fights such things happens.
    the fighting is going on between mohajirs and pathans, if and only if MQM is involved then how come all the major MQM strong holds are silent and peaceful ?

    Still freely pathan rickshaws taxis are operating freely ?


  17. HITMAN (hitman) on December 2nd, 2008 @ 3:15 pm

    No its not Mahajirs & Patthans, its ANP & MQM. I didnt single out MQM, ANP is as well creating chaos. BUT who is more responsible? The blame should & must go to MQM since it is in power. Just tell me did ordinary mahajirs got up & closed the shops of patthans just beneath the UNIT 173???
    or the MQM guys have become too khassi to allow any 1 to close shops which is in their vicinity?


  18. HITMAN (hitman) on December 2nd, 2008 @ 3:21 pm

    Its not the fight of communities, its the fight of opportunists & RAW’s agents like ANP & MQM. The guys who took the chowkidar (Arif pride one who was shot last night) were mahajirs (although I prefer calling "urdu speaking people" since I dont believe calling ourselves mahajirs afterbeing born here), the people who gave him blood were also mahajirs. It is people like u who r bent upon inciting violence & trying their asses off to claim & portray it as mahajirs v/s patthans


  19. HITMAN (hitman) on December 2nd, 2008 @ 3:59 pm

    The guys who took the chowkidar (Arif pride one who was shot last night) [edit]to the hospital [/edit]were mahajirs


  20. khaled90 on December 2nd, 2008 @ 4:28 pm

    @ Hitman

    and what about singling out the mohajirs passing from Banaras?

    Don’t worry go to Orangi and you will know who is doing all that.

    Writing here is quite easy.

    @ KMB
    with ref to my earlier post
    Operation has been initiated and started on Super Highway Afghan Basti by Rangers but i also suspect the jehadis in agencies and jamat e islami gave the tip to jehadis and afghan terrorists there so the operation might end fruitless.


  21. khaled90 on December 2nd, 2008 @ 4:31 pm

    @ Hitman

    MQM and ANP are funded by RAW as u said with out proof like indians are saying pakistanis behind mumbai attacks.

    Plz my question.

    WHo is responsible for 1958,1965,1984,1986 Mohajir pathan riots in which hunderds of Mohajirs were brutally murdered??

    at that time no MQM!!!

    You have any answer ?
    Poeple who don’t take lessons from past would become ignorant like you so keep writing things that have no proof nor have any sense.


  22. HITMAN (hitman) on December 2nd, 2008 @ 4:41 pm

    ok, so killing chowkidars & shutting down hotels owned by pakhtoons will solve this problem?


  23. HITMAN (hitman) on December 2nd, 2008 @ 4:43 pm

    & I m not talking abt the above without proof, I live there, I saw that. Come to block M north Nazimabad @ unit 173 & see urself what i m talking abt


  24. zafirzia on December 2nd, 2008 @ 4:45 pm

    @Khaled 90

    Every Karachiite believes MQM a fascist organization having ulterior motives.
    The 1986 mahajir pathan riot was initiated by MQM after the Bushra Zaidi accident………..

    MQM is a party who not only kills others but its own workers…………
    altaf quoted in India that" creating Pakistan was the biggest blunder"

    MQM always had a lust for power and ministries that is y MQM was a
    part of all the previous govts… for instance in 1988 with PPP, in
    1991 with PML-N, in 1993 with PPP(in province), in 1997 with PML-N ,
    in 2002 with Musharraf and now again in 2008 with PPP….MQMs past
    clearly shows that it is party which only need power and ministries
    i.e y they accepted Shoib Suddle as IG sindh and betrayed with the
    blodd of their party workers………

    MQM is the biggest LOTA party in the history of Pakistan……

    Please mister support ur arguments with proofs……….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl8og3ysiLw

    guys just watch this altaf CHOORAN wala……
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slGVVzAJujI

    and this too
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YthIDx3kL6I&feature=related


  25. khaled90 on December 2nd, 2008 @ 6:08 pm

    @ zafirzia

    you lives in a fools world i guess, The language you are using is a famous language use by jamatis(Sorry for identifying you).

    It is MQM who quit Gov as the PPP and PML N failed to implement the written agreements b/w MQM and these parties.

    If MQM is soo evil these parties should publicide the agreements b/w MQM and them.

    As far as Shoaib Suddle is concern, People like you were clapping at that time that he was appointed but he too failed to do anything as time has passed,

    Now the WORLD accepts MQM as a big political power.

    You forgot the visit of US Ambassador to Pakistan to London and Mustafa Kamal visit to US and State Dept ??

    Ab in batoo say kuch nahi ho ga Bhuttay bhonoo aur Pakistan ki fiker karo.


  26. khaled90 on December 2nd, 2008 @ 6:14 pm

    @ Hitman

    You do live in 173 OK you might be right, BUT i am asking about Mohajir killings way before the creation of MQM.

    Don’t get excited in MQM Dushmani, On daily basis people got tortured and looted on banaras sohrab goth and other pathan localities.

    Now even Mohajir girls are kidnapped and raped.

    When you raised any voice over it ?

    On one hand you said MQM didn’t have support of Mohajirs on the other hands you put everything on MQM even individual acts by Mohajirs ??

    DO remember Karachi is a city of 20 million people, in karachi there are people with ethnic mentality they might be in MQM or in jamat e Islami or any other person don’t even belong from any political party, the people, girls and women looted and tortured on Banaras doesn’t necessary belongs to MQM.

    I ask you a simple question.

    SOmething like that happen to you you are against MQM what would you do ???


  27. HITMAN (hitman) on December 2nd, 2008 @ 7:48 pm

    I might go out for culprits. I might go to law. But I wont take revenge with those who shared the ethnicity but had nothing to do with it.
    Regarding pre MQM mahajirs killing: I wasnt born & I knew that Urdu speaking people were killed by terrorists from other ethnic groups i.e. punjabis, sindhis, patthans. But my point is what is this generalization abt? Do u think that harassing & killing those patthans who r here just to earn their bread & butter is gonna bring peace in the city?


  28. khaled90 on December 2nd, 2008 @ 11:25 pm

    @ Hitman

    Abhi kuch hoa nahi hay na isi liye yeh batain hain :0)

    Bhai in the Era when you were not born even before the creation of MQM there are people who were fighting against Pathans, so why every incident put on MQM ?

    All the trouble on saturday starts from Banaras,

    You wana know what happened with innocent Mohajir women on banaras?

    Did those pathans on banaras ask those mohajir women about their affiliation or their contribution to MQM or just torturing them because they are Mohajirs ?

    Don’t you think that harassing, killing and raping those Mohajir women and men who are in pakistan because their ancestors gave 2 millions lives for this country gonna bring peace in this country ?

    youtube.com/watch?v=WDYkvYp9ofw


  29. HITMAN (hitman) on December 3rd, 2008 @ 10:29 am

    DAMN, BBC has become jamaati now, it has become ISI sponsored organization
    http://express.com.pk/images/NP_KHI/20081203/Sub_Images/1100533385-1.gif


  30. HITMAN (hitman) on December 3rd, 2008 @ 10:32 am

    So the answer against the acts from patthan criminals is to sweep the city clean from all patthans? Well this should be applied equally then to all groups. Go ahead with the plan to make Karachi "Sheher -e- Khamoshaan"


  31. zafirzia on December 3rd, 2008 @ 1:05 pm

    @kahled 90

    yaaaaa..hahahha…………MQM is a mafia & a fascist organization everyone knows that…….I know altaf pays u for the pulicity of MQM………….MQM will remain in each governemnt and blackmail political parties y creating havoc & mayhem….

    Operation was done by Pak army against MQM but MQM supported an army general for 5 years……..MQM is group of opportunists having lust for power& ministries………..

    yes i knw the visit of US Ambassador to Pakistan to London and Mustafa Kamal visit to US and State Dept ??obviously MQM takesagndas from the west to implement in pakistan……….MQMand altaf are the boot lickers of the west………thats y altaf has a british passport……

    Altaf is such a big PHATTU and loser that he is afraid to come back to Pakistan even when his party was in all 3 govt city, provincial and federal……………

    BHAGORA quaid ………..PHATTU MQM


  32. khaled90 on December 3rd, 2008 @ 1:10 pm

    @ Zafirzia
    No need to say anything to you as your mohajir dushmani in the name of MQM is quite obvious

    As far as Altaf Hussain is concern you people can cry out Loud as we don’t want the same fate for Altaf Hussain what 3 Leaders of Sindh faced before in Punjab,

    Non of punjabi leader dies but all the Great Leaders from Sindh and Mohajirs died in Punjab.

    Keep going Push Mohajirs to the wall so that another 15 dec 1971 would happen again.


  33. khaled90 on December 3rd, 2008 @ 1:12 pm

    The Mod here are so biased that they don’t want to show the real picture of karachi here and continuously removing posts that have the visual evidence of what is really happening in Karachi

    youtube.com/watch?v=4Y25TxRHv9U
    youtube.com/watch?v=WDYkvYp9ofw


  34. khaled90 on December 3rd, 2008 @ 2:05 pm

    In Karachi When Political parties are busy in trying to maintain peace, IN Pukhtoon localities terrorists again started riots, again started severely torturing innocent urdu speaking passer by from Banaras

    Interestingly all this started after an announcement from a MOSQUE on Banaras

    This is another proof that Religious elements, Talibans and Jamat e Islami are clearly involved in all the riots.

    express.com.pk/images/NP_KHI/20081203/Sub_Images/1100533363-2.gif


  35. anjaanay on December 3rd, 2008 @ 4:02 pm

    these elements are the ones who are distroying the PEACE GOVT should take immediate action against these extremist (TALIBAANS) who are actually working for INDIA


  36. zafirzia on December 3rd, 2008 @ 4:55 pm

    @khaled 90
    The RAW agents present in MQM are working to destabilize karachi…………MQM in the past has also been involved in the creation of Jinnahpur……The Law enforcement agencies took immediate action and operation was started against MQM in 1992……….The notorious criminal element in MQM always try to create havoc and chaos in Karachi………
    The govt have to keep an eye on MQM & whenever required these criminal elements in MQM need to be flushed out……….


  37. khaled90 on December 4th, 2008 @ 12:50 am

    @ Zafirzia

    there is connection of MQM and RAW, most of the people arrested in connection with RAW are from Punjab.

    Army did what they can do but failed to present any single proof of MQM RAW connection nor they proved anything regarding Jinnah Pur.

    Soo the crap you are writing here is worthless


  38. khaled90 on December 4th, 2008 @ 12:57 am

    @ Zafirzia

    Can you please tell me why there are several incidents of wide scale mohajir massacres in karachi, even before the creation of MQM when Jamat e Islami was ruling this city ??

    Like US, Punjabi Establishment also wants an enemy to be labeled as RAW Agent and to hide what they are doing by diverting the peoples attention on Enemy # 1, and they have one in the name of MQM now a days.


  39. barristerakc on December 4th, 2008 @ 1:51 am

    khaled90, according to paindo’s Baloch are RAW, Mohajirs are RAW, Sindhi Nationalists and Commeners are "lazy bastards" and RAW, Sariki’s are RAW and Pashtuns they do not allow to settle on there lands.

    Let them die there own death in hate while, we prosper with MQM :)


  40. khaled90 on December 4th, 2008 @ 7:47 pm

    Ohhh

    and who are these people killing innocent Mohajir Men on Sohrab Goth ?

    express.com.pk/images/NP_KHI/20081204/Sub_Images/1100534052-1.gif


  41. khaled90 on December 5th, 2008 @ 1:34 am

    @ Barrister

    Well all of this Mohajir suffering is NOT equal to suffering of fews Chaye walas,

    If someone kick them out from then the Rape Torture and Murder of Mohajirs becomes legal.
    The soo called urdu speaks who are getting itched by torching of few thellas are not even aware of what is going on, on abul hassan isphani road where about 10 projects(Flats) have been occupied and residents 99% urdu speaks are thrown out of their properties by Pathans.

    These Pathans are ONE, even they are in any political party they are working as ONE under Pakhtoon Action Committee even the Pathans in soo called tehreek e Insaaf are working under that Pakhtoon Action Committee or Loya Jirga.

    dawn.com/2006/06/03/local1.htm

    The so called urdu speaks who are itched forgot what these pathans are doing on daily basis on banaras quaidabad and on sohrab goth where torturing of people wearing pants and behaving with mohajir women including rapes are becomes daily routine.

    These sick so called Mohajirs also forgot that what these pathans did on 27,28,29 2008, at that time no thella was torched and no one forced to vacate their chaye khanas but still they were looting torturing and raping mohajirs.

    Karachi is become Hell for Mohajirs as the snakes inside Mohajirs are dividing Mohajirs, They are criticizing mohajirs for doing little things but failed to raise any single voice over Murder torture and rapes of innocent Mohajir Women and Men.

    All this has been started with Brut force after sindh high court gave the decision against the Rikhshaws, such decision was imposed in punjab but no hue and cries but when come to karachi it becomes ETHNIC Problem.

    The people of Karachi specially Mohajirs should understand about what is going on, If Pathans can unite on one platform regardless of their political affiliation, why not Mohajirs ??


  42. barristerakc on December 5th, 2008 @ 8:16 am

    Khaled Bhai, Waqt Qareeb Hai Un Ka – do not worry!!! "hum hain na" :)


  43. anjaanay on December 5th, 2008 @ 9:11 am

    Khalid Bhai U r Absolutely Right…

    and one thing more if any thing happens dont expect any thing from these Rangers or POLICE they will not take any actions against these Religious Extremists….

    We Have to do this On our OWN



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