Nazims or Magistrates?

Gilani says local govts illegal, unconstitutional

ISLAMABAD: Defending the provinces’ demand for wrapping up the local governments, Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said on Friday that the decision to replace the 150-year-old magistracy system with the local bodies was ‘illegal and unconstitutional’. ‘Former president Pervez Musharraf’s decision to make local governments a federal subject under the Sixth Schedule of the Constitution was illegal and undemocratic,’ he told reporters after attending a function at the ministry of science and technology…

…The five-year tenure of the local government will expire in October and there is a strong possibility that no more LG polls will be held and the old magistracy system will come back…

…The government, he said, was taking tough and unpopular decisions to save the country from difficult situation. ‘I would not say that the government is taking popular decisions. We have to put the country on right track. We are democratic people. We have faced imprisonment not for becoming the prime minister but for the rights of the people,’ he said.

read full news story here…

It seems like we are headed back to the old draconian system of having magisterial fiefdoms. Whereas the local government gives us the advantage of choosing representatives from our own area, the magistracy system is based on having somebody appointed over you who may not even be from your area. He will not be sincere to the region, will not know its problems well, and will have a tendency to rule with an upper hand like his personal jagir – which basically gives him power over anyone else – to use and abuse as he likes without question.

Which system do you prefer? I personally have a clear preference for the local governments system; primarily because its more democratic, more modern, ensures that the person running your government is answerable to you rather than being your boss, and because it gets results. The magistracy system leads nowhere. What do you have to say? Let your voices be heard – because YOU should make such key decisions in a real democracy.

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64 Comments so far

  1. بستنی (wasiq) on July 11th, 2009 @ 4:14 pm

    regardless of my interest in the constitution…..historically this is like abc….when army takes over in pakistan…they bring in the local bodies…the so called representatives of the people…or should we say the chosen one….(let the force be with you..)no matter what name or title they are given….their presence is felt somehow in the area….(jee woh kal isha kay baad nazim/councilor sab aarahey hain ghafoor sab ko bata de jay ga…)

    when Army returns…after elections the political government as it likes to be called….rely for everything on the bureaucrats….so the first thing they do is that they appoint administrators…. the reason I understand is that elected governments in pakistan…never has full majority…they come with a "hung" parliament…with simple majority….or coalition with unlike minded parties(MQM,ANP,JI…etc)
    so no" Political" government in pakistan can afford to have a local bodies election and give away major districts to the opposition …..and pave the way for another army take over….

    PS:I haven’t voted in the above poll.


  2. fasee on July 11th, 2009 @ 4:50 pm

    My vote wud be for a military take over.

    If I m destined to be governed by a scumbag I wud prefer it to be a trained well built scumbag.

    Come on kiyanai the presidential bedroom needs ya…( After zardari is gone….offcourse)


  3. Locally Retentive « Roznamcha – Bach (pingback) on July 11th, 2009 @ 8:03 pm

    [...] those who know and understand the area they run to bureaucrats from potentially any damn place. SwERveUT of Metblogs says the executive magistrates “are unlikely to know an area’s problems [...]


  4. SwERveUT (swerveut) on July 11th, 2009 @ 8:43 pm

    Folks, read the blog at the above pingback for some excellent analysis. Here’s the link: http://saesneg.wordpress.com/2009/07/11/local-government-abolished/


  5. saesneg on July 11th, 2009 @ 9:18 pm

    Thanks for the hat tip :-)


  6. بستنی (wasiq) on July 12th, 2009 @ 5:25 pm

    I believe the local govenment ordinance 2001 is a very mature piece of legislation in the history of local bodies legislation in pakistan….it would be very unfortunate to let it go just like that…and I am sure it wont be easy to replace it by the current parliament….

    http://www.nrb.gov.pk/local_government/default.asp

    Kabhi hum khoobsurat thay
    kitaboun main basi khushboo ki manindh….


  7. human01 on July 12th, 2009 @ 6:27 pm

    Well said Wasiq, regardless of what they say, the current local body has proved itself to be the best so far….as Mushi would say, the true reflection & essence of democracy….
    The crooks are crying just because they r not getting the piece of it…..


  8. human01 on July 12th, 2009 @ 6:33 pm

    BTW where is barrister these days….seems like wakeel sab got busy these days!!


  9. 7b0y on July 12th, 2009 @ 7:08 pm

    According 2 m3
    Government just wants 2 appoint those who represent gov.(own friend & family) they dnt want 2 appoint those who represent us (common men)


  10. 7b0y on July 12th, 2009 @ 11:18 pm

    Han yaar
    Many good bloger r mising there days like Barrister, Doctor Awab Alvi etc etc..


  11. بستنی (wasiq) on July 13th, 2009 @ 11:13 am

    @human01…..sir I believe in what you have said….although it is unfortunate that for me to not able to see any other city district of the province or the country….during the term in office of the people elected under the local bodies ordinance 2001….and the watchful eye of the NRB…and even here in the CDGK i have not been out of jamshedtown most of the time ….and you know jamshedtown out of the 18 towns is not a very good sample to study or judge the performance of the system….as some of you may remember the comments of our very dear Barrister sab…"jamshedtown…oh there is a problem…."
    Anyways….now my request to the government and the people concerned is that if you see any faults in the legislation amend it through the parliament….if you have problem with the working of the system….take guidence from the superior judiciary….if you have differences with the present nazims do not elect them…but let the system work…its going in the right direction….don’t put brakes for political reasons….think Big!


  12. concerned on July 13th, 2009 @ 5:18 pm

    Provincial govt ko Khi sai khanay ko nahi mil raha is liye yeh sub kar rahay hain. Gaalian dainay ka dil chahta hai inn logon ko.

    Who all are up for a little protest at Karachi press club on next sunday, around noon? And where the hell is the media, I havent seen much from them on this?


  13. concerned on July 13th, 2009 @ 5:36 pm

    This is not about ur political affiliations, its about Khi, we cant take this lying down like we have done for the past 2 yrs.

    Barrister kidhr hai bhai.


  14. بستنی (wasiq) on July 13th, 2009 @ 7:20 pm

    yeah kis gustakh naa hin jar ney Barrister sab ko pukara….woh ab yeah bhata group chordh kar…apney jadi pushti per braja maan ho chukay hai….aaj kal terangi chadarein kandhey pey dal kar….bheinth wasool kar rahey hain…..unn ka naam tazeem sey liya jai….keun kay woh merey wastey India laney waley hain….jai Ho !

    Doosti aisa nata
    jo soney se bhi mahein ga…jo soney sey bhi


  15. ssumair on July 14th, 2009 @ 4:54 pm

    I would prefer this local bodies system only for big cities like, Karachi, lahore, etc.

    For smaller cities/rural areas this is just a waste of money to have 5-6 councilors for small cities. Also in rural areas this system has been misused by Musharaf and its mafia.

    Also this big cities Nazims should be questionable in the provincial assembly (which is not visible till now).


  16. fasee on July 14th, 2009 @ 6:54 pm

    @ wasiq

    Woh jo news aye thi, mandir ka pujari, kamsin kaniyaa ke sath compromising halat me pakra giya…tu kaheen wo hamaray balma uncle tu nai thay…!!


  17. بستنی (wasiq) on July 14th, 2009 @ 9:00 pm

    @ssumair sab…sir I believe you mean to say ..answerable to the provincial assembly…lol
    Honest to God….The Honerable Mustafa Kamal sab is probably the first person singular in the history of Pakistan..whom I have seen answering on every pakistani television channel…and even on the channels that I don’t usually watch…..Jazak Allah !

    @fasee sab..sir this time I am not at all worried about Balma jee…If you remember his last comments on KMB….I think he is definitely picked up by the builder mafia….there is no chance of his return this time….Hath chuko !

    Haule Haule Se Hawa Lagti Hai
    Haule Haule Se Dawa Lagti Hai
    Haule Haule Se Dua Lagti Hai, Haaan
    Haaye, Haule Haule Chanda Badhta Hai


  18. gulzaibw4 on July 14th, 2009 @ 9:34 pm

    @ssumair
    I Agree ssumair big citys shoud be under in nazimeen and smallars citys must be follow the big city program like karachi city
    Mustafa kamal is the best Nazim of the world.I sugges Mustafa kamal should be Nazim for holl Pakistan


  19. 7b0y on July 14th, 2009 @ 11:14 pm

    @ssumair sab

    I dnt think tht sme1 should be answerable to the provincial assembly when media trial (voice of nation) goin on……
    & nazim system is should be for whole country……

    @gulzaibw4
    I Agree with u sir with thiz
    ”Mustafa kamal is the best Nazim of the world.I sugges Mustafa kamal should be Nazim for holl Pakistan”


  20. fasee on July 15th, 2009 @ 8:16 am

    @ wasiq

    Then who was dat pujari, if not balma….hmmm that face behine those safron drapes looked familiar…( Fasee stares a bit deeper)

    @ all

    "Mustapha kamaal shud be nazim of pakistan"

    Naheeeeeeeee, if so, then there wud be those gay pictures of altaf givign a hug and a frenchie kiss to mustapha will be on every road signal n billboard.

    Will commit suicide or will start watching shows like rainbow power or xena ( I still ocasisonaly watch xena) never knew it was a lesbians favourite programe.

    Allah tauba qabool lernay wala hai…now I only wacth straight old fashioned "woh" walay programes


  21. بستنی (wasiq) on July 15th, 2009 @ 11:12 am

    @fasee sab….Balma jee aur mandir ho hee nahein sakta….impossible..assambhav….han yeah zaroor ho sakta hai kisi memon bhachi ki balcony sey woh waley clothes otar tey hua washing line main phass gaay houn….aur dry ho rahey houn….aaj kal partly cloudy weather hai…..kuch time toh lagay ga na….

    ghoonghat nikaloun kay ghoonghat hatha loun
    Balma jee ka kehna mein manoun kay taloun….


  22. Syed Johny (johny) on July 15th, 2009 @ 7:11 pm

    In my opinion, Provincial Setup should be Wrapped up , returning Pakistan back to two tier system , but here instead of Federal and Provincial, it would be Federal and district !


  23. بستنی (wasiq) on July 15th, 2009 @ 9:13 pm

    syed johny…..Oh God ….KD would have loved it…can proper nouns be oxymorons….if they can than this must be the best…anyways..

    @syed johny sab….sir in my personal opinion it would be like a county system….and that would be too hard to manage….but I think practically we are progressing towards it slowly and gradually….just see how *they* were able to lay down roads ,bridges and highways through the length and breadth of Pakistan….from right across our cities and towns…
    sometimes I feel that just as the word "formal dress" has very different meanings….for different people and places….provincial government also has very different meanings to some….and there are people as well who never take it very seriously….and why should they…if there is a very serious devolution of power…the kind that was aimed by local government ordinance….and the system of city and town nazims than who needs a provincial setup…a middle man in the laymen’s term…
    than on the other hand…..if there is no middle man between the fed in the capital and the nazim in karachi….wouldn’t it be like a ping pong game….no checks and balances in between…..one day the feds don’t like you they shut you down replace with admins….or the nazims don’t love the feds anymore….they refuse to collect taxes…block roads…strikes etc….who would the feds call to control the law and order..? the Army..? or the Zorro..? lol


  24. 7b0y on July 15th, 2009 @ 10:22 pm

    @fasee

    I think we should look at big picture & according 2 m3 we should appreciate his work

    He really did a lot for us for our city. And we need such as our representative who feel our problem..

    gulzaibw4
    I Agree with gulzaibw4 coz I think tht is our fundament rith 2 chose who really wanna work 4 us 4 our country 4 OUR PAKISTAN


  25. Syed Johny (johny) on July 16th, 2009 @ 12:58 am

    @ Wasiq
    with all due respect ur comments sound a bit stupid to me!

    U think the Provincial govt maintains checks and balances? up until last year there was Baldiati Wazeer to do that! and this post was created with the sole political purpose of opposing MQM in Karachi and specially Hyerabad.

    and about Fed and CDG not liking each other!
    Did JI’s CDGK like President or Federal Setup ?!
    Did MMAs Provincial Govt like Fed ?
    Does PMLNs Provincial Govt like fed?
    or Vice Versa?
    answer is No No No and No,

    But still they worked in Coordination, Punjab Govt is collecting Tax for the PPPs Federal is it would have done with PMLNs federal,
    MMAs NWFP govt collected taxes just as the current ANP govt is collecting for the Fed.

    so there is no need for you to worry about that ! Atleast here the System is intact, and theres no way, in any case it would happen that a CDG would go and Boycot collecting Tax for Fed !
    Sounds pretty Stupid!


  26. بستنی (wasiq) on July 16th, 2009 @ 1:47 am

    @Syed johny sab….sir no matter how stupid it may sound but I do believe that provincial government does play a certain role….in good governance…otherwise you can be ruled by the feds like FATA….which I believe is the most stupid thing in a democratic country….anyways for the fear of sounding even more stupid….let me just ask you one simple question in reply to all the questions you have put up…..

    A democratically elected political federal government wants an end to a democratic system and replace it with administrators chosen God knows how from God knows where to do God know what…. so do you still believe they were working in coordination….?


  27. Syed Johny (johny) on July 16th, 2009 @ 2:40 am

    @ Wasiq
    Dear ! by abolishing Provincial setup i meant transfer of Provincial powers to Districts not Federal level,

    Practically creating more provinces, which Pakistan is in Dire need of today!
    I would also like to add that i think Pakistan currently holds the record of having most large and populous Provinces/states/units in the world.

    Lets Compare shall we
    India:
    Population: 6 times of Pakistan
    States: 35

    Iran:
    Population: 0.4 times of Pakistan. (Pakistan exceed by the factor of 2.5)
    Provinces: 30

    China:
    Population: 7 times of Pakistan
    Provinces: 34 (23 provinces, 5 autonomous regions, 4 centrally administrative municipalities & 2 special administrative regions )

    USA
    Population: 1.7 times of Pakistan
    states: 50

    UK
    Population: 0.29 times of Pakistan (Pakistan exceeds by factor of 3.3)
    Units: 9

    Germany
    Population: half of Pakistan
    States: 16

    Now lets compare with Countries with population less than KARACHI

    Netherlands
    Population: 2 million less than Karachi
    Provinces 12

    Greece
    Population: 0.6 times of Karachi, (7 million less than Karachi)
    Units:10

    Belgium
    Population: 0.6 times of Karachi, (7.5 million less than Karachi)
    Units:2 (with 5 Provinces in each unit)

    Do I need to go on !?
    If this system can work every where in the world ! why would it go out of hand in Pakistan ?!

    Well it would go out of hand of feudal lords because many of them "OWNS" areas larger than Many countries of the world.


  28. Syed Johny (johny) on July 16th, 2009 @ 2:42 am

    hmm heres interesting Fact that i stumbled upon !

    In terms of Population, Only 59 Countries are bigger than Karachi!
    :O

    Rest are smaller!


  29. Syed Johny (johny) on July 16th, 2009 @ 2:46 am

    @ Wasiq!

    Yes the Coordination always remains, The Administrators did work under Provincial Govt.

    Thats another thing that they both more interested in making quick buck and having a quite and peaceful 9-5 (or maybe even less) job, with minimal work to do !


  30. بستنی (wasiq) on July 16th, 2009 @ 10:17 am

    @syed Johny sab….obviously sir you were not talking about the coordination of the Administrators…..it was the coordination between the rival political parties that led to this decision of abolishing the nazims and appoint administrators…we have yet to see their coordination ….

    by abolishing Provincial setup i meant transfer of Provincial powers to Districts not Federal level,

    Practically creating more provinces,

    Sir with all due respect….I think you are not sure what you want…..most people when they wake up in the morning they open the window panes and the curtains…not because they can’t see or breath…but because there is an awful lot of fresh air and light outside….creating more provinces will only mean more corrupt officials to rule you….and take away all of your freedoms…are you sure sir thats what you want for your self and your kids……?


  31. Syed Johny (johny) on July 16th, 2009 @ 2:31 pm

    A/c me the Corruption level in smaller units would be low, as compared to larger units!

    and it would not be on the cost of freedom!
    right now go to any place in Pakistan Except for Northern and Central Punjab, people will say that they are not receiving their share of power and resources, Southern Punjab people say rest of Punjab is consuming all resources,

    all the Provinces say Punjab is consuming all the resources,
    People in Urban Sindh say already Sind receives very small part of fortune, major part of it is diverted towards Interior Sind,
    people in Interior sind complain vice versa!

    the politicians use this point usurp up the resources by doing corruption and then again complain that they did not get their fair share!

    By smaller provinces atleast they cant complain, and by smaller provinces a large chunk would not go to a single province just because it had more than half the population of the country!

    (Pardon my English , m not very good at it)


  32. بستنی (wasiq) on July 16th, 2009 @ 5:19 pm

    @Syed Johny sab……sir recently we witnessed a major displacement of the local from northan areas..IDP’s…thanks to the lord they are now retuning to their homes…now suppose if a similar influx of people has happened from the most populated Punjab province….we would have felt it very badly….because their population is not increasing it is multiplying…like you see in Alien movies….now if we go your way…and make smaller provinces their small province will still have more population than the small province from other three regions of the country….so naturally the funds provided for them will not be sufficient for them and they will complain…as for the other small provinces from other regions they will still be complaining that populated small provinces are getting more than us plus other relief and foreign aids as well….
    so the thing is first of all we need to realise what are real problem is…..population, corruption, lack of trust on the govenrment,or little or no respect for democracy….
    If I remember correctly the previous Administrator of Karachi during another PPP government was a taxi driver of the PM house…if that is the criteria of appointment of admistrators….then all this debate about the constitutional and structural changes to the system is futile and a waste of time….


  33. Syed Johny (johny) on July 17th, 2009 @ 12:51 pm

    The majority of the resources going towards Punjab is not just due to the fact that it has major population, it is because due to its major population Punjab has dominated the bureaucracy and the federal setup, so they use their power to get resources and support for Punjab, and its natural considering the nature of Pakistani people, if people from Sindh Baluchistan or NWFP were in Majority they would have thought only about there province!

    By dividing the provinces the Monopoly of single province over the bureaucracy.

    And about the apointment of the administrator, sirje thats why i am opposed to magistrates system in favor of CDG.


  34. fasee on July 17th, 2009 @ 1:34 pm

    @ wasiq

    The only prob is neyyat…salon ko bachay paida kernay aur dosron ka maal khana say time hi nai milta….wonder what uncle iftikhar have to say bout over population.

    Bacha tax, ironicly put forward by that ugly jahil firdous ashiq awan….its too little too late….cut the toonti off after the 2nd or third child…..nikahnamay pe NTN number hona zaroori hu

    Verna kuch nai hona…..and one more thing…remove ban on drinks, sex, drugs……ameer maa baap ki auladin sab kertin hain…law huway na huway….gareeb me kantay lagay hain kiya….uski shirt me dil aur paint me toonti nai hai kiyaa….:(:(


  35. بستنی (wasiq) on July 17th, 2009 @ 5:56 pm

    @Syed Johny sab….sir Healthy wealthy and wise always rules….even on a very small level if have an opportunity to choose or hire somebody for your office or home….you definitely consider these three qualities don’t you….and the people from the over populated districts or the new found provinces will be even more desperate to get the jobs…and they will then have ten falsified domiciles instead of two…..nothings gonna change…it will only increase corruption and lawlessness…

    according to the ord…the municipal services does not suits a magistrate at all….

    @fasee sab….sir is there really a ban on sex here in karachi…starange…toh mein awaein forty kay chakar main tha…?lol!


  36. kabirdas on July 17th, 2009 @ 11:16 pm

    @ Fasee

    Thanks for mentioning KD in connection with some oxymoron without adding MARHOOM against his name.

    By the way why not have a system whereby Mulla rules the roost from each local area mosque.


  37. بستنی (wasiq) on July 17th, 2009 @ 11:30 pm

    @KD sarkar…..to add marhoom we needed a solid confirmation….I have requested the navy…to shoot a couple of kites…..lol!

    sir with all due respect….i remember your balcony is ruled by one mosque and your study by another….imagine an area like shah faisal colony where there are less one and a half bricks and more mosques….


  38. fasee on July 18th, 2009 @ 7:35 am

    @ KD

    Good to see ya still live n kicking buddy, hope u shagged enough nurses already. U r still a day away before date with destiny, so why not take the barmaid that u have been fantasizing while u were reading ramayan and sipping that manhattan cocktail she made…:):)


  39. بستنی (wasiq) on July 20th, 2009 @ 8:59 am

    Oh God…was cronkite really a Kite…? lol!


  40. fasee on July 20th, 2009 @ 8:32 pm

    @ wasiq

    On same lines.

    Do lahore relates to whore..??


  41. بستنی (wasiq) on July 20th, 2009 @ 9:10 pm

    @fasee sab…..sir there is still time for the night coach….hurry up !


  42. kabirdas on July 20th, 2009 @ 10:11 pm

    @ Wasiq

    The more the merrier


  43. kabirdas on July 20th, 2009 @ 10:16 pm

    @ Fasee

    Seems KD’s reputation travels ahead of him. The nurses while carrying out various tests give him a wide berth. Suppose they know what is good for them.


  44. بستنی (wasiq) on July 20th, 2009 @ 10:19 pm

    Kuch iss ada sey aaj woh pehloo nashein rahey…..
    aay Ishq hum toh abb terey kabil nahein rahey…


  45. fasee on July 20th, 2009 @ 10:30 pm

    @KD

    No way sir, are they wearing those dreaded re-enforced steel chastity belts that girls order when fasee is around..??
    They must ev got to know the fasee connection somehow.

    Per sir aap tu shareef admi niklay, Had that been fasee, chastity belt or not, there are 100 more ways to get the right "bang for the buck"
    If u know what I mean…..lucky for me fasee ne books me hugh hefner ko bi kafi parha hai


  46. fasee on July 20th, 2009 @ 10:34 pm

    @wasiq

    I can take the nite ride to lahore, but when I reach there it wud be afternoon…the time when all such nite breed sleep after selling all donkeys and horses and the vaderaz murabbay….only one awake is the police computing there commision for the nite..:)


  47. kabirdas on July 21st, 2009 @ 3:41 am

    @ Fasee

    This is one area of human activity where KD wouldn’t mind taking Fasee as his Guru and learn a few tricks of his trade.

    I forgot to mention that Mrs KD makes sure that all these tests are carried out under her watchful eyes.


  48. بستنی (wasiq) on July 21st, 2009 @ 7:29 am

    @fasee sab….sir I have to admit that you were right about what should one talk to people who are in a hospital bed(WAGs and not HAGs)….specially people like KD…but please don’t take this guru thing seriously…because if he survived….he might not want to miss out on anything….lol!

    jatey jatey woh tera murdh kar dobara dekhna…..


  49. kabirdas on July 21st, 2009 @ 8:06 am

    @ Wasiq

    You have missed the point completely. It is for the very reason that I do ‘not want to miss out on anything’ that I am opting for making Fasee my Guru in a particular area of human and animal activity (Animal is more like it)


  50. بستنی (wasiq) on July 21st, 2009 @ 8:22 am

    @KD sarkar…..sir its the 21st of july 09……here in karachi….what happened….who did the angel of death took in your place…?
    No comment on the the animal because I am pretty sure what animal you have in mind….


  51. fasee on July 21st, 2009 @ 1:21 pm

    @ wasiq

    " Don’t take this guru thing seriously"

    Waaaaat; and here was I almost finalised my safaron drapes, how long my choti wud be, who wud be my compunder who wud mix the oils with ayuvedic herbs. And some nurses to portray the methods I wana teach my diciples.

    Have tried to pursuade some painters, but nobody wana paint my billboard.

    " Astaana-e-taskeenieey-jiblat-e-haiwania-wa-lizaatee-lamakaniyee-waa-sarooreee-doraniyaa-sayedee-faseee-aaalimee aloom-e-bistaar-wo-couch-wo car back seat"


  52. fasee on July 21st, 2009 @ 2:31 pm

    @ wasiq

    " I should admit…"

    Well sir, whenevr a man us down, his intelect down the drain, only thing always working is his basic human needs n desires.

    So to jump start and get him out of the limbo, isto talk sex, and see the work of miracles…..trust me on this dude, this guru has jump started so many of those batteries…;)

    @ KD

    "Rather animal than human"

    Well sir, the more in depair a guy is, the more of a shock therapy he needs, fasee being a depressed looser, needed a skybolt to get him out of the limbo, the things I used to see and read, I wud just say that animals are far far behind what the evil human minds are truly capable of.

    Gimme a car battery, common pins, drill machine, tubs of water, later straps, gag balls, wax candles and I can tell a 100 ways that can make people wake up in middle of night just thinking.

    Sir, in my opinion, there is no animal on earth to match beastality as human.

    And oh yes, beasty human is not an oxymoron but a true defination…:):):)


  53. بستنی (wasiq) on July 21st, 2009 @ 11:29 pm

    @fasee sab….sir aap kay astanay kay lian sub se monzu jaga toh karachi ka national stadium hee hosakta hai….keun kay jammay ghafeer kay lian iss sey choti jaga naqas ay aman ka bais ho sakti hai…waisey bhi woh jaga toh abb kisi kam ki nahein rahee….aab toh sri devi waley bhi boor hotey nazar aa rahey hai….


  54. fasee on July 22nd, 2009 @ 6:29 am

    @ wasiq

    Thanks for identifying the suitable location, but can u add a few "gems" to the dawakhana title, fasee thinks its still a bit small in lenght. (Pun intended)

    I m thinking of placing balma as director marketing, if he agrees that is.

    But the cath is, he wud open his own farzana dawakhana right across the road as soon as he learns the tricks of the trade


  55. بستنی (wasiq) on July 22nd, 2009 @ 7:45 am

    @fasee sab….sir that is also one of the reasons why I suggested the National stadium karachi….you can have a mega billboard all round the stadium starting from one side of the main gate….with a longer name and the list of crimes….
    as for Balma jee….I doubt it…he is not his self these days…it feels like the ghada is inside the gardee now and nobody to pull or push…outside…lol!


  56. fasee on July 22nd, 2009 @ 12:36 pm

    @ wasiq

    Sir how can u Imagine the list of crimes can be covered on a paper mere the size of an stadium…??

    Haan albatta if I keep the font size to "2 ppt ariel narrow" tu socha ja sakta hai.

    But wud have to use both sides of the paper still…:)


  57. بستنی (wasiq) on July 22nd, 2009 @ 1:45 pm

    @fasee sab…..sir again that is the best part of choosing the National stadium karachi….the mega billboards can be double sided…with skins on both sides or may be skin on the out side and neon signs on the inside they will look amazing…..


  58. fasee on July 22nd, 2009 @ 9:45 pm

    @ wasiq

    Sir jee one prospective site in mind is mansoora, as fasee’s direct experience tells me, the mullahs are more into sex n kinky stuff than anyone or all of them combined.

    U’ll find them in undergarments shops as customer, as salesmen as wellas shopowners…u’ll find them in frontline on prawns / bateer or katakat corner in any buffet…u’ll see them always buying desi murgha even when they can afford hardly half a KG…

    Where else can I find higher density of mulah per square meter in pakistan


  59. بستنی (wasiq) on July 22nd, 2009 @ 10:45 pm

    @fasee sab…..sir jee bahut mushkil hai ….they are already self taught and experienced as you except yourself…..aap ki dal kaisey galley gi wahan…..meri baat maan lein national stadium karachi ki deal final kar lein….warna aisay na ho kay jab navy sell ho toh yeah bhi banana republic of Uganda ko chala jai….aur woh log yeahan hathi daanth kay furniture ki dukan khool dein….ya koi maan challa dabbu club start kar dey aur hum log aap ki zihanat aur diyanat sey mahroom ho jain….phir main KD ko kya jawab doun ga…?


  60. fasee on July 23rd, 2009 @ 11:16 am

    @ wasiq

    Agreed on the self taught thingy, but sir, they r just a bunch of hormone crazy freaks, just doing it, on quantity wit no idea bout quality.

    They know how to cut the meat with a crude axe, but do they have the crafty hands to use a surgeons scalpel..??

    That wud be my sales pitch….they might still can’t use a scalpel yet they may get to know hot to handle a kitana propely.

    As for uganda…they r more intrested in buying expo centre to setup a fair n lovely cream factory, to export to uganda or might be rawanda aswell…if they certify us that is


  61. بستنی (wasiq) on July 25th, 2009 @ 8:47 am

    @fasee sab….okay sir jaisay aap ki marzi…..per ab agar koi doctor ya pathan aap ko jamaiti boley toh babu sey shikaiyat na karna….woh kehtey hain na ….kay ponchi wahein pey khaakh jahan ka khameer tha…..
    jahan thak national stadium karachi ka taaluk hai toh cricket toh ab yehan ho nahein sakti….ya toh dabboo club baney gay ya phir bahria school ka parking lot….they have two car per student and no place to park….blocking the traffic of a signal free….


  62. fasee on July 25th, 2009 @ 12:30 pm

    @wasiq

    Well it can be used as a shadi hall for our only other passion besides cricket, procreation…so it will do fine.

    As for me a janatiya…well sir u know verywell, as the cliche goes…the only thing I hate more than a jamatiya is two jamatoyaaz.

    All those sex freaks r busy in missionery styles…my evil plan was to teach them ways in which procreation wud not be the end result…hehe…serves them right, they will truly become what people only call them by name… bunch of a holes


  63. بستنی (wasiq) on July 26th, 2009 @ 8:41 am

    @fasee sab…..Now that’s what I am really afraid of…..there have been shadi lawns in the vicinity before….iam not sure about now….a shadi hall this big will be a nightmare for the defence budget…and US Aid for pakistan….never mind the young couple…..


  64. fasee on July 26th, 2009 @ 9:23 am

    @ wasiq

    Sir jee, on the contrary, cricket stadiums have been used many times for mega marriages.

    Slaay itnay bachay paida kertay hain ke memanoki list 1-2 hazar tu hu hi jati hai…in few years it wud be 4-5 hazar…so wud be a perfect venue.

    Check it, qazafi stadium in lhr has been used a couple of time wo bhi flood lights ke sath..:)



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