Why media is mum on Karachi Killings ?
This time i am writing about a more important issue , one that is very disturbing. Disturbing because it is exposing us as a callous society only busy in their material objectives, unable to think as a group. But my point is not society, mine is even more a serious one. Our media which doesnt let go any opportunity to report president’s fever/cough is mum and silent over Karachi killings. The reporting is more of a formality then any effort to inform the readers/viewers about what is really going on. While daily ummat is the only source doing some job, our TV channels and newspapers, which are also based in Karachi mainly, are happy churning out the “usual stuff”.
Our media which has done a good job in acting like a surgeon to debate each and every legal/political point is less bothered about these target killings. May be they do not want to take the wrath of the players involved or may be this is not an “attractive package” at the moment. In any case, this is a very very disturbing trend. At one hand it follows the murder of a girl and a Colonel in Punjab like a National Security issue but on other hand it is absolutely mum on the many dozen killings in mini-Pakistan.
Media is quiet because the killings are happening in areas which are dominated by Urdu speaking locals., aka Mutahyda vote bank.
The ares mentioned above in the news report are all surrounded by the land grabbers. The access & exit of all these areas is under land grabbers influence with diverse interest and NO ROOTS IN KARACHI
- try to look at picture in broader perspective with Karachi’s planned developed pockets surrounded by slums under influence of land grabbers-
Many may not know, the Nusrat Bhutto Colony, Kausar Niazi colony are on the land of Pakistan Railway which was to undertake Karachi Circular railway expansion under 1980 – 2000 Circular railway expansion program for mass transit in Karachi. But in 1974-75 PPP Govt regularised these lands under ROTI KAPRA MAKAN slogan to land grabbers.
Come any day we all can see wall chalkings, and flags demarking the dominance of political, religious, ethinic and language groups operating in the boundries.
The city of Karachi is under rule of EVIL, headed by DEVILS in sheep skin.
The media’s silence is indeed intriguing. The likely reason could be as mentioned by you: “May be they do not want to take the wrath of the players involved. That is what happens when you dn’t let the freedom of speech to flourish or let it flourish selectively.
gals who wanna seriously salsa dance … click @ me … m22ali@hotmail.com
gals who think they can salsa dance…. but actually do a sleeping salsa…. or it looks like they are doing salsa dancing at gun point…
need stay away…..
who wants to kill shahid afridi after what he did to pakistan cricket…and the selectors …
should there be a reward or head money for shahid afridi….??
His severed head may be put in the hall of fame.
@KD sarkar…..he is the brand ambassador of a famous brand of Shampoo ..I don’t think that will be possible…plus due to his face value the corporate corrupts will start using it on billboards all across the highs and the lows….
aakhir log humara chehra hee toh dekhtey hain…
@ wasiq
“aakhir log humara chehra hee toh dekhtey hain…”
thats also the misconception of many a models with single digit IQs but double digit assets….
hai bechari ini masoom hoti hain
jab tak altaf hussain randi ka bacha london me bheta rahe ga.tab tak isa hi hoga.altaf phele pakistan me akar raho. phir pakistan ki bat karo.marne ya marne wala koi bhi ho.unhe rokna police ke sath sath hamara bhi kam he.lekin hum logon ko gharelon muskilat se fursat mile tab na.jab fursat milti ho to kisi ki shadi attend karne chale jate he ya khud shadi karlete.mulk gya maa ke bhosre me hamara kia he.is city ki abade karon ki he or un haramion ke pas itni golian nahi ke wo sab ko marsaken.jab marne ate he to mat bhago.jise wo khoon me lat pat chor jate he wo kisi ka bahi
or kisi ka beta he.kal app ka bahi or beta bhi hosakta he.
ye kon he jo sarak ke kinare khoon me lat pat para he.kia is ki maa or behan ki chijen app ko suani nahi deti.apne tv ka volume halka kare to sunai degi.
@basit
hi mad man what do you thinking. there is so many mistakes
in your mind. i think you are need a doctor.
@basit
Basit Asea karo apni maa ko Dhande se otha lo warna tumhe sab hi apne jese nazar aean ge
@ all
hum yahan Kisi jamat ki nomandigi karne ke le nahi bethe yahan ek serieos topic ha
is ke liye me ya hi kho ga ke Karachi ki police agar Siyasat se alag ho jae to Karachi phir Aman ka sher ban sakta ha
Why blame Media…….It has done its part to take this country back to the 90’s along with other contributing members of civil society.
So, as we approach the collective goal, we should be cheering ourselves for finally retrieving the same old, same old from the clutches of progress. After all who needs things like investment, education, entrepreneurs, professionals and most importantly work. Let’s just fight in the name of everything.
bahi jan agar hum sab pakistani bahi he to.meri maa app ki bhi maa hoi.or app ki maa meri maa.to app ko gali dene ki kia zaroorat he.
behari shaib.mene app ko gali nahi di.altaf ko di he.or app ko bura laga he.app ye bhi khe rahe ke app kisi jamat ki numandagi nahi kar rahe.lekin andar hi andar app bhi altaf ko altaf bahi kehte he.sirf itna kheta hon app ko ke gadaron ke dost bhi gadar hote he.app comments dene se phele apni id registared karwalen.jese hum sab ne ki he.wese behar to india me he.or app khud ko behari kehte he or pakistani bhi.
shkorbindas sahib.bindas hindi ka lafz he.app ke mind me kachra he.indian kachra bollywood ka.
u r right mr.basit.dont worry,is mulk me sach kehene wale ko pagal kaha jata he.hamisha esa hi hota aya he.karachi ke mard ab na mard ban kar bhete he.un ka kam tv dekhna or sms karna he bas.in me se har kisi ko ek dosre se bara banna he.or Hamid gul sahib in chotion ki faujj jama karke.pakistan bachana chate he.
ok guys.ab tum logon ki bari he.galian he doge mujhe bhi us ke elawa tumhare pas koi argument nahi he.to chalo shuru hojao.sach karwa hota he isi lie app ko itna jaldi ghusa ajata he.or apni new thezab dikhana shurru kardete he.wo tehezeb joke mujhe yaqin he ke app ke gharwalon ne app ko nahi sikhae.balke app kai or se sikhe he.
Target killings in Karachi have become an unfortunate norm. MQM is responsible too along with PPP and ANP goons. The ultimate victims of these killings are Urdu Speakers as they are now the real citizens of Karachi. Other ethnic groups can go back to their villages and towns but where should the Urdu speakers go? I am expecting some hater saying that they should go back to India. In preemption, I would say that Karachi is now of Urdu speakers and if someone thinks that they will expel them from Karachi then they have lost their mind.
It looks disgusting that the ethnic group with the highest literacy rate and most liberal values is supporting MQM. We need a destination, not a goon leader.
Humain rehnuma nahi Manzil chahiye
Its about time that Urdu speakers should rise and create a new party that includes moderate factions from both MQMs and other parties. We can’t continue with the current state of things forever.
@Mr. Sheeraz
You are forgetting that Pakistan is more of a jungle than a country. Its a place were martial races abound, where weapon is zewar, where for some killing women is honour and thanks to Russian invasion of Afghanistan there is no shortage of automatic weaponry, blatantly used to prove your point. Not long ago we lived in a utopia that you aspire. Where our students went to universities with books and came back with bullet holes. When beating up of passengers by wagon drivers was a daily occurrence. It was not a matter of rights or jobs it became a matter of survival, a matter being able to walk with you head held high.
What MQM does or fails to do can be a matter of debate, there are obvious short comings, but in the wilderness it’s the only hope of survival, only shoulder to bank on. A lot of fine young educated men have put their lives on line to earn this right to talk to other co-habiters of this land on equal terms. Not only to fight but to convince them to forge something, to move ahead, to build, work and educate. However, in this feudal society plagued with fanaticism, jahalat and other misplaced ism’s, this is not an easy task.
Peace and sanity is vital for progress but that does not mean that you need to put your guard down, get swamped and live a less honourable life.
Hazrat, while giving gaalis to each other why use gaalis which implicate women. baap kee gaali do, maa yaa behen ko laanaa zaroori hae?
And, I saw someone comment on calling somebody bhai!
bhaijans, and beautiful ladies, the term bhai is part of our culture and history. In North India and some parts of Panjab and other parts of India, ‘bhai’ is used as a prefix for for male friends who are older.
It is a less respectable way of addressing people than for example by suing ‘sahab’, but does show some respect.
Many years ago, I mean many many years ago :-), these two PK students saw me in a library in a college overseas and started talking to me and kept using ‘tum’…..I felt little bit uncomfortable after a while and suggested that they should talk to me in English….because then I won’t have to hear ‘tum’ from someone ten years younger than me!
If you are younger than me, and don’t have the manners to use ‘aap’ or ‘bhai’, please talk to me in English. Urdu is not your cup of tea!
@ balma.
“not my cupa tea”
sir jee yeh pathan hotel ke doodh patti peena walay logon ko kahan aap english tea woh bhi stired not shakeen type ki , pila rahay hain….
janay dijiyee……..
as for the topic….i dont knwo what keera is with pathans…apna ghar tabah ker ke ( pora NWFP )..yahan a ker maray huway hain aur yahan ko bhi wiasi hi dizakh banay ke chaker main hain.
agar aisi hi dozakh pasand hai tu why dont they go back to there caves in kandhar
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Fussy,
I wrote a reply to you earlier, but was not published. I was banned for no obvious reason. Can MB have the kindness in his jamati heart to release that posting of mine. I am getting too old to retype the whole thing again!
@ Kaami
“Why blame Media——”
I respect your views. However, I don’t blame media. I commend meda for it is trying to enter 21st century alongwith the members of civil sciety. Please wait and let democracy and rule of law take roots in this country notwithstanding the current state of affairs.
“——-Pakistan is more of jungle than a country——What MQM does or fails to do can be a matter of debate, there are obvious short comings, but in the wilderness it’s the only hope of survival——–However, in this feudal society plagued with fanaticism, jahalat and other misplaced ism’s, this is not an easy task.”
There I fuly agree with you.
@Kaami
You didn’t get my point. I was not saying that Urdu speakers should start a peaceful struggle. The tragedy is that Urdu speakers are killing each other i.e. Haqiqi and Haq Parast. Even many JI workers are Urdu speakers. We need a party that includes all and starts a new struggle, with international help.
@ Balma
“two PK students saw me in a library in a college overseas and started talking to me and kept using ‘tum’…..”
Must have been Pathan students. In Pushto there is a word pronounced ‘te or tue’ which is equivalent of Urdu ‘tou’ and used for juniors like in Urdu. There is also another word in Pushto pronounced ‘Taaso’ which is equivalent of Urdu ‘Aap and as such used for seniors like in Urdu. In Pushto there is no word equivalent of Urdu word ‘Tum’. This being the case it is strange that Pathans mostly when speaking Urdu don’t use ‘Aap’ which is the equivalent of Pushto’s ‘Taaso’ but instead say ‘Tum’ which doesn’t have a Pushto equivalent. Mostly uneducated Pathans or the ones who have had no formal education in Urdu are guilty of this.
On the other hand in Punjabi also there are two words equivalent of Urdu ‘Tou’ and ‘Aap’. There is no word equivalent of ‘Tum’ like in Pushto. Still Punjabis whether educated or uneducated use the words ‘Tou’, ‘Tum’ and ‘Aap’ quite appropriately like any other Urdu speaker will do.
@ Master Yoda
“sir jee yeh pathan hotel ke doodh patti peena walay logon ko kahan aap english tea woh bhi stired not shakeen type ki , pila rahay hain….”
Good one. I liked this.
@ KD
“Good one. I liked this”
sir, for a full bodied wine made from finest grapes of a established old vineyard, properly aged to perfection in oak husks, in a controled envirnoment
why wudn’t a gentelman of your stature and fine tastes wudn’t possibly like it.
for balma and wasiq we have customised, un aged, light sparkling or aromatic wines albiet with a strong sour after taste.
KD, those were memon bachaas. Two brothers actually, dono budtameez since anyone who grew up in Karachi must know aap vs. tum.
@ Master Yoda
“gentelman of your stature and fine tastes.”
KD is not ashamed to admit that he is not a gentleman of a high stature as such. He is basically a Paindu who wouldn’t mind even drinking hooch if it comes to that as long as its alcohol contents are right.
” For balma and wasiq————-”
Please also add ‘fasee’ after ‘wasiq’and ‘nonalcoholic’between ‘aromatic’ and ‘wines’. Or better still I will propose mashroob-e-mashriq Rooh Afza for Balma, Wasiq and Fasee jis say oun ka Iman taza or harra bhara rahay:-)
@ KD
“if it comes to that as long as its alcohol contents are right.”
no wonder mrs KD hides all perfumes, oil paints, thinner nail-polish remover form ya…..( alcohol sooghtay soonghtay pohanch jatay hain or gata gut pee jatay hain )
“for balma , wasiq and fasee”
on your strong recomendations…..i change the menu at offer
for balma= johar joshanda ( sugar free )
for wasiq= apple sidra
for fasee= sirf miss sidra
@KD, we had this argument before and out of so many things that we agree on this is where we dis-agree, so I will not argue anymore, only time can tell. However, as I have stated to you earlier, I sincerely do wish that you are proven right because that’s a win win for everybody.
@Sheeraz – (borrowing from Inzy) First of all, the way you phrase “Urdu Speakers should do this or that” puts me off and its very hard for me to read the rest of your post. Its time that you understand the so called “Urdu Speakers” don’t live in a vacuum and they are neither superior or inferior to anybody. Racially, genealogically and geographically the urdu speaking crowd is a diverse group with ethnicities from all areas of Indo-Pak and even Afghanistan. They find themselves in this cultural, social and political quagmire as a result of the partition of India more than 50 years ago. They cannot escape certain degree of responsibility for that as well.
Coming back to the point and the present. The solution of the current predicament ultimately lies with working together with other ethnic groups to create a better future for our kids. Nobody will contradict that but problem with Pakistan is that its not a straight fight between Capitalism / Communism or Feudals / Farmers or fundamentalists / liberals or for that matter Millitary / Civilians or Left vs Right or A ethnic group Vs B ethnic group. That’s why I call it a jungle because there are more than one type of predator and prey. The only thing that can unite this country (like India) is Economics, “standard” education to all and continuously running engine of progress which does not allow people driving it, time for politics or news media.
My friend in my humble opinion, there are vested interest groups (eg feudals, religio-politicians – their allies in media and jihaadi generals) that turn the clock back whenever there is movement forward. The greatest rewind was done by the First Bhutto when he nationalized industry / commerce and let the feudal’s go scot free.
For me, to avoid conflict, people need to talk to resolve their issues. For that you need a de-weaponized society atleast at pre-Zia-ul-haque level. But, do you hear any political party stressing this point? Its not mentioned in any Charter but it’s the single most requirement to make our society “civil” and create an atmosphere where dialogue can prevail. Until then, “Jis kee laathee ussee kee buffalo”. Can’t blame anybody.
The only hope now is fight fatigue.
“The violent incidents, which in most cases saw armed motorcyclists targeting mainly small traders and labourers, reached central and eastern localities of the city on the fourth consecutive day of violence that had left over 20 people dead in Qasba Colony and neighbouring areas during the first three days. ”
- 20year-old Javed Khan near Qasba Colony. The victim, who was the resident of Islamia Colony and labourer by profession, sustained two bullets and severe torture.
- 25-yearold Safeer Khan who was targeted in Karimabad near Meena Bazaar within the remit of the Azizabad police station by two armed men riding a motorbike. The deceased was a cloth trader
- Twenty-five-year-old Salam Khan was gunned by unknown motorcyclists while he was sitting in his general store within the remit of the Taimuria police station. The police said that the deceased hailed from South Waziristan and had been running the shop in the area for the last several years. He was a resident of KBR Society and sustained bullet wounds in the head and chest.
- In Godhra Colony area, 35-yearold Bismilah Khan, who was an activist of the Awami National Party (ANP), was shot dead in similar fashion. Mr Khan was killed inside his Quetta Bolan Hotel.Two men riding a bike managed to escape after targeting him. Some five spent bullet casings have been found from the scene
- The 35-year-old victim, Qari Shahid, was a prayer leader at Farooq-e-Azam Masjid located in Ghazi Goth,” said an official at the Manghopir police station. “He was there for the last more than five years and hailed from Mansehra. He was targeted by unknown armed motorcyclists, moments after he came out of the mosque
-two traders of cast-offs were attacked when they were about to return home after wrapping up their stall at a weekly market in PECHS. “Two men on a motorcycle intercepted their Suzuki pickup, bearing registration number KF-989, and one of them fired multiple shots and ran away,” said Brigade SHO Gul Baig. “One of the victims, 30-year-old Shiraz Khan, died on the spot and his colleague 28-year-old Waheed Khan died at the Civil Hospital. Both were the residents of Patel Para near Sunheri Masjid
- A few minutes later, again two men on a motorbike opened fire on people sitting at a roadside Super Nusrat Achakzai hotel on Liaquat Road in Khudadad Colony within the remit of the Brigade police sta tion. “As a result a 15-year-old boy, later identified as Umar Abbas, was killed while three others suffered serious wounds
- A 35-year-old rickshaw driver was targeted near the APWA Girls College in Federal B. Area soon after he dropped some passengers. “As he reached near the college, he met two men riding a motorbike, who were already present there.One of them fired several shots at the moving vehicle, which finally came to a stop after the driver was hit in the head. He was identified as Gul Muhammad.”
- The bullet-riddled body of a young man was found in a gunny bag in Korangi area. “It carried the body of a young man, who appears to be in his early twenties.The man sustained two bullet wounds in the head.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/local/karachi-eleven-more-killed-as-violence-spreads-to-other-localities-320
@Kaami
You still didn’t get my point :) I know all the mishmash of ethnic groups that are Urdu speakers but it is the language that combine them, the lingual group. I am least concerned about what other ethnic groups are suffering from and what their feudal and martial background is. I have lived in Punjab and Islamabad for enough years to delve deeper and find the real psyche of Punjabis and have also lived in interior Sindh for some time. They all despise Urdu speakers, some openly and others covertly and here I am talking about common men, not their masters.
My question is simple. Why is that Urdu speakers should carry forward all the nationalist movement? We have done enough. That is the real tragedy of Urdu speakers that they are overtly nationalistic in their thinking, always Pakistan first.
Things are changing at the “global front” and Urdu speakers have to find some workable solutions. I think I have explained enough.
Isn’t it clearly obvious that these brutal killings bear the hallmark of MQM’s Absconding British grand terrorist Altaf and MQMized criminal gang. Poor pathan labourers,rickshaw drivers,tea hotel owners gunned down by terrorists on bike.Most horrific point to be noted is that these MQMized unit terrorists don’t get orders to kill specific people. They randomly choose their victims and have to complete the task of gunning down specific number of people as assigned to them by local criminal leadership of MQM
The most ironic part is that even after killing dozens of Karachiites, MQM is the one blackmailing the govt. I mean can some one explain to me what exactly is the point Rehman Malik is negotiating with them about? MQM said that they won’t attend sindh assembly session unless Agha Siraj Durrani and Dr Zulfiqar Mirza don’t apologize for what ever they have said that day. Agha Siraj today have clearly said that he stands by what ever he has said and he won’t be apologizing. So what exactly is Rehman Malik negotiate with these MQMized killers.
@Sheeraz I do get your point but, tell me currently where is Pakistani Nationalism in Pakistan?
Now its overwhelmingly, “Everybody for himself and get out while you can”. Even Punjab is now less Pakistani than before and religious groups are more loyal to Saudi’s or Iranians than to this country”. What other solution you are advocating? The Urdu speakers and non urdu speakers have to adjust live and die together. Nobody can push and shove.
If this country has to move forward the solution on paper is quite simple. The people must get rid of vested interests as mentioned earlier, they must have peace, they should give up all sorts of crazy ideologies and jihaadi ambitions. Let foreign investment come in and put their head down and work. Stop worrying about whats happening in Palestine and Chechnya, because nobody worries about them.
In this regard MQM is way ahead from other parties as it represents people at the grass root level and strives to serve and protect ( albeit sometimes quite clumsily). The Nawab’s that we had have long gone. There is always need for reform within but division and party making serves no purpose. Most importantly Muttahida should never give up on reaching out to others ……
testing if banned by jamaatees?
Jali Doctor, it is rather obvious your above post bears the hallmark of being from Abwab Alvi, Teeth Mistresso, and smells Imran khaaniat plus minor dose of jamati pun.
I agree with Kami, I dont know about anyone else but I am really sick and tired -now- of all this Sindhi-baluchi business. Pretty soon we will all be speaking English 24/7 in Pakistan and India. Even now a person who speaks only English can understand all TV programs in Pakistan and India. Basically Desis have no self-fucking-respect….oh, I digress as usual…
My point is we should go beyond this Urdu non Urdu business and try to live and work together to make as much Doalaar$ as possible. Let the progress begin…drum role anyone?
muthaida ka ya nara ke sindh me agar rehan he to jee moajhir khena he.ek mafia tactic nahi to or kia he.or pathan ankhe ke badle ankhe, to amm admi kahan jaega.police rangers ya fuajj kuch nahi karege.karachi ke behno ko apni bahion par bharosa he.plz kuch karen.
@balma jee…sir with all due respect…Imran khaniat main abb smell kahan …wahan toh sirf dhoan hee dhoaan hai…jab sey jemima khan jee sey break up hua hai…koi kaam sahi nahein ho raha…unn kay samney toh sub kaam khud hee ho jatey thay…log donations cheque book khool kay deytey thay…log free main volunteer kaam kartey thay…cancer kay mareez chal kar nahein dourdh kar ghar jatey thay….tv press ongay bongay okhay sawal nahein kartey thay….abb toh yeah hal hai kay woh kya khoob farmaya hai shair ney…:
mein jis ko chota houn balma woh zakhamm deyta hai
woh phool aaisey chamman main khila gaie chup chap…
sheeraz wrote:
Its about time that Urdu speakers should rise and create a new party that includes moderate factions from both MQMs and other parties.
bhai kitni partyan banao ge? AIML banai, JI banai, MQM banai lekin masla to kisi party ne hal nahin kia…itni partyaN bananey ke bajaye bas zara logoN ke saath aman se rehna seekh lo sirf is baat se hi khasey masa-il hal ho jaiN gey.
@ balma
“Pretty soon we will all be speaking English 24/7 in Pakistan and India:
sir jee, wid due respect, i beg to differ.
the ones we talk bout, the growth oriented, dont give a shit on whats a balochi or pashti “pakh-palaa” gogin on…they have investements to cover, dollars to make, and increments to earn.
its the phaticher class with no future for themselves…who like to drag us all into a life of nothingness with non issues
like
1) afia siddiqui case…i say hang her if shez corrupt or free her, just dont btoehr me
2) lal masjid…i wud love to see more of em, to teach them to respect the wrti o fgovrnment
3) sindhi ajrak topi day….i give a shit if they wana have a topi, chaddi, udnerwear day…it doesnt make sense…except that i get a day off to recharge my batteries…no mater its sindhi dhoti day or iqbal’s umteenth birthday
4) drone attack prtests….comon…u cant even down gliders..just let them do there work…and kill some yahoos which our govt cant.
and best…..plz clear the highway….it really affects my phatphattiz mileage when it slows down when pethetic people blocks the roads
sheeraz says:
I have lived in Punjab and Islamabad for enough years to delve deeper and find the real psyche of Punjabis and have also lived in interior Sindh for some time. They all despise Urdu speakers.
uh? This seems to be a bit of a sweeping statement. Look, there good and bad people in every community. Being a member of the so-called Mohajir community I know very well how much grudge many of us (but thanks god not all of us, there are always exceptions-like me in this case haha) bear against Punjabis, Sindhis or Pathans.
I have said it umpteen times before on this same board that Karachi belongs to every Pakistani and if narrow-mindedness or ethnic prejudice adhere someone from co-existing with other ethnic groups then they really better go back whereever they came from…….to Akora Khattak, to Mian Chunnu or to Inida :)
@Odin
No, Urdu speakers should not go to India and yes, Karachi belongs to them as they are now in majority.
@Kaami
Enough arguing with you. I guess you don’t want to discuss what I clearly stated in my earlier comments. Other ethnic groups in Pakistan are so backward that it will take at least 100 years for them to get rid of federalism and sardari system and grow a massive middle class. They are simply going through evolutionary phase. Why should Urdu speakers, I don’t like to use the word Mohajir, should rot in hell for these 100 years? We have to carve out a niche for ourselves.
MQM is a cult, not a party. We do not need any ‘peer’ worshiping idiots for we have the highest literacy rate and this looks disgusting, to say the least. MQM is also not secular, though they pose to be, as they have ulema wing and stuff and have significant religious leanings. What Urdu speakers need is a totally secular party that is not based on leadership but on certain principles. It should be a west- and America-friendly party for they can be our best helpers. The sooner Urdu speakers realize that they have to shed their differences and strive for a ‘final goal’, they will continue suffering.
@Kaami
I meant ‘feudalism’ in my earlier statement :)
sheeraz, please don’t distort my statement. I never said that all Urdu speaker should go back to India. I just said that all those, who bear grudges against other ethnic groups and find it hard to live together with them in peace, can go back where ever they came from. And stop saying this non-sense that Karachi belongs to a particular community. This kind of provoking and divisive statements are the real cause of Karachi’s ethnic tension.
Its really funny how earlier MQM abused and cursed PPP’s senior ministers now today MQM wants government to take action against ANP here in Karachi “for supporting drug and land mafia”.(Look who’s talking,encroachers of public parks,playgrounds and Amenity plots themselves )
Ironic isn’t it.. first these terrorist kill Karachiites then these same terrorists come on media and start whining and howling.
Most hilarious point to be noted is that its sitting in coalition with both PPP and ANP and their greed for power is such that even despite these serious differences they choose to stay in power just because of their lust for power.
@rehana, what you are quoting is a blast from the past and even if its true now then it shouldn’t be a problem. In fact we all should jeay each other as much as we can. It started from Jeay Sindh and has progressed to. Jeay Mohajir, Jeay Punjabi, Jeay Pakhtoon, Jeay Balochi, Jeay Muttahida and we can conveniently add balti, kighistani, barmi, Bengali, gujrati, parsi and …….
Everybody has a right to live and none to kill.
And your plea to your brothers sounds like a familiar cry ( if I am not wrong from a Jamatee behan to Jamatee brothers ) and its nothing but another form of instigation to spark violence. Back in my university days such plea’s were circulated in propaganda videos and pamphlets coming from various corners of the world and I admit they were effective and to an impressionable mind – lethal.
Sadly, nobody is there to resonate the real cries of our sisters, who live in the dumps of prostitution or are buried alive or killed in the name of honour. And lately, as little as under 10 year olds being especially targeted for the crime of going to school. Not to mention the brave school teachers riddled with bullets for refusing to succumb to blackmail.
Some bhai please respond to their cries please!!!!
@ Sheeraz
“They all despise Urdu speakers, some openly and others covertly and here I am talking about common men, not their masters.”
I am a Punjabi and have lived in Islamabad long enough to say that I will agree with this statement of yours if it reads as follows:
They all Envy Urdu speakers, some openly and others covertly and here I am Not talking about common men, BUT their masters.
“My question is simple. Why is that Urdu speakers should carry forward all the nationalist movement?”
I have lived in Karachi long enough (longer than in Islamabad)to say that because Urdu Speakers belong to middle class, are much more educated and have sacrifised for Pakistan much more than any other ethnic group in Pakistan.
@ KD.
sir by uttering those words…you are now on top of the jammtiyaz list….
@ Master Yoda
Oh my God (if there is one)! What have I done???? Am I on their hit list now???? Oh God save me from your followers!!!
@ KD.
“god ( if there is one ) ”
sir, if there is anyone else ,beside master yoda, whose well versed in teh secret art of flyign red cpae in front of a bearded petrol dollar fed bull(crap)
it must be you….i heard jamatiyez have created a fidayeen cell, who have sweared on the picture of qazi hussain…they wud never eat halwa agin till they can put a beard on your face and rooh-eafza in your hands, and molana mududi in your head….( or did i mixed up the combination )….:D:D
@Kibirdas
Yoda is talking about Hit lists(death threats) and bullet filled envelopes that MQM’s unit goons regularly fax and mail from MQM’s terrorist headquarter Nine Zero (90) Azizabad. (Absconding Pir Altaf bai’s ex residence)
http://tinyurl.com/hitlistfaxedfromninezeroMQMhq
@KD
Exciting prospects for you, “Godliness, beard and roohafza all bundled in one. Cant ask for a better Salvation Package”
KD! The hope lies not with the Karachi middle class (because of their limited ability to affect change at the national level). Any good that is achieved in Karachi, instead of being replicated is rolled back because it may not be desirous for one vested group or other.
The hope lies with emerging middle class of Punjab. No surprises that every other political and religious entity is trying to woe them on their side.
If they find the right gear, only they will have the power to affect permanent change for the better or worst.
I prefer a quick death over a slow one. I will rather die with a bullet than Moudoodi in my head.
To be honest, I don’t think Jamatis (and, this time I mean Jamat-e-Islami) are the halvah-maanDah type moulvis. They are mostly lower middle class kind-of-educated people, but could be from any class. they are not the halvah eating types.
Therefore, fussy, you need to provide someone else other than Maududi to KD for holding in his hand!
KD, how about maududi in your hand? ;-)
Hit lists and bullet filled envelopes is apparently one of the reason why media is mum against killings in Karachi(topic of this blog post).
More people gunned down. Same pattern emerging. Murdered pathan tea stall owner’s brother nominates MQM’s unit terrorists in the FIR.
@ Kaami
“The hope lies not with the Karachi middle class (because of their limited ability to affect change at the national level)”
Can you please elaborate a little more on what you mean by ‘their limited ability’ and the cause of it.
“The hope lies with emerging middle class of Punjab.”
Concur but still the ‘Urdu Speakers’ will be the torch bearers for them.
@ Balma
“KD, how about maududi in your hand?
Ah! I will love it if I am holding him in my hands by his neck.
@ D0ct0r
Sir, you may be right. However, threats apart I am curious to know exactly how many media men have actually been killed in Karachi say during present or previous crisies before this?
@kd
Getting killed by MQMized unit terrorists seems to be mostly written in the fate of poor souls involved in petty jobs like Tandoor walas(Bread Maker),labourer,road digger,Mochis(Cobbler), Soup/Dry fruit/Corn/peanut seller on Pushcarts,Quetta tea hotel owners,Brick,sand,gravel,cement sellers, public transport owners,drivers,chowkidars(watchman) etc.
As for the media. Just simple threats or bullet filled envelopes or sending down a unit terrorist to their office work wonders.
MQM Thugs punished ARY and GEO News
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrHrzgEWZVg
Altaf’s unit terrorists kidnap and torture women and journalist after beating them up in front of Police .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF8q8sIY4RU
MQM’s city Nazim Mustafa Kamal of “Karachi walay ullu kay pathay hain” fame other day didn’t spared media and anchors either right after that channel aired a programme discussing City Governments response and shortcommings after Ashura Blast.
Naturally nobody in the media wants to get tagged as “enemies” of Mujahir as MQM did in that faxed threat traced back to their Headquarter in Azizabad Karachi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwIVUjm7t3U
Ask a tough question and MQMized Nazim will bite you..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHjcvVZeXlQ
@KD To answere your question, since the 50’s / 60’s the feudals were faced first by the Bengali dilemma. How to deal with a pre-dominantly socialist majority. When they dealt with them the next task was to keep the amazing progress being made in Karachi, isolated to that city. Plus, to keep the new emerging rich entrepreneurs (the seths) in check and to keep the political independence and awareness of the Karachi middle class isolated from the rest of the country?
I must say they pretty much succeeded in every task with the help of Mullah and Millitary alliance. They not only managed to stop the wheel of progress but also reverse it. Their task was made easy by the glaring economic disparity, that emerged between Karachi and the rest of the country. It was very easy to manipulate that to their advantage. All they needed was to point fingers towards a certain ethnic group and fuel the fire. Short sighted attitude of certain mohajir leaders / intellectuals didn’t help either.
Change can only be triggered from Karachi, if whats happening in that city is taken as a model to be replicated. But when leaders like Nawaz Sharif make their priority to move head offices from one city to another, which speaks volumes of the mindset driving the agenda.
Karachiite from any ethnicity can only create a working model but they lack the political power to implement it in the rest of the country or even sustain it themselves. As they say you can bring a govt down from Karachi but you can’t create one. For that Punjab is needed.
@DOCTOR
Thank you for your input, this helps to prove my point.
MQMized or non MQMmized, threatening or non threatening Nazim, here is a model of local government system which effectively works or can be taken as an example of how local bodies should function. But instead of improving upon it and learn from the experience and replicate it, today we hear appointed Administrators will take over local bodies in Punjab.
They (including PPP) can’t wait to abolish it altogether but for the political clout and muscle of MQM.
@ KD . Balma
apologies for not settign teh combination right.
how bout
topi or saffa on your head,
beard and a certin empty expression on the face
danda or jamaati jhanda in hand
rooh-e-afzaa stays unchanged.
( balma jee : agreed they r not halwa khoorz) or is it…?? how kum liaqat from JI was on top of list of people in ICU who didnt even spared an expired halwa…and devoured plaets n plates of it…??
@ DOctOr
Thanks for info about MQM high handedness. I will remember it for future ref to draw my own conclusions.
@ Master Yoda
” topi or saffa on your head,”
What no tasbih in the other hand and a lota close by???
Beside or in addition to all this:
Agar kaabay ka rukh bhee janab-e-mahkhana ho jaay
Tau sajda mara bhee laghzash-e-mastana ho jaay
@KD sarkar…arz kiya hai…
Yeh kaisa nasha hai jo behka raha hai,
Tumhara hon main tu phir sanbhalo mujhey,
cheers!
@ KD
” tasbee n lota”
sir jee, with teh set of asorted accessories that i put on display….all yoru organs were to be fully employed / utilised except one hand…..ab i can fix a tasbeeh on that.
only thign left wud bea lota….i can still hang it on one organ on body left free…but that wud be pretty sacraligious, or not humanly posible ot hold it in that position 24 /7….so will have to see an alternative arrangment..
wasiq help sir
@ Wasiq
KD ‘purana papi’ hay. Achchay bachay aisi batain nahin kartay. Waisay bhee yeh waqt ho gaya hay aap kay so janay ka. Ab aap aaram say so jaain.
@ Master Yoda
“so will have to see an alternative arrangment..”
Hope you are not thnking of proposing use of viagra instead of halva. No way I will let go of halva for viagra.
@ KD
sir if u had looked closer…my name, master yoda, represents a peacful warrior…and oxymoron in its very essence….or a person wanting best of both of the worlds.
why wud u have to leave the halwa for viagra…..having spent much time with maulvis….i know of gajjar ka halwa, kaju ka halwa, pista ka halwa, badam ka halwa….then why on earth we cant have a viagra ka halwa….haveing both of the worlds.
but…i must point out….sir, you , wasiq and balma all were thikning or wrong lines….the organ i wanted to hang the lota on, was around the neck with a wire, like some poeple in hajj hang on.
looks like yoda is not the only one with a naughty mind eeh
@KD sarkar….sir you are absolutely right about achchay bachchay…I tried to sleep but there is a death silence here in jamshed town…all litmus test failed …usually when I pray the wittar of Isha somebody somewhere near or far makes the sound ..very rarely it happens that I get to pray in a pin-drop silence….
Silent night, holy night!
Shepherds quake at the sight
Glories stream from heaven afar
Heavenly hosts sing Alleluia!
@ wasiq.
“somebody somewhere near or far makes the sound”
you know…this surprised me….two totally difrent people, up at night for two obviously very diffrent reasons…had a similar bad luck of anyone droping by or any khatphat when upto something…but nothing when there is no prgamrae whatsoever.
yoda has a long history of somebody waking, knocking, or any phoen call or sky breaking loose, whenever i was up at night to watch some steamy educational progmraes on cabel TV….and when it was a boring dead night..no body or nothing bothered…..maybe fate laughed at me in a fit of hysteria…..muhahahahaha…ab dekh…ab dekh…kisay dekhay ga
@ Waisq and Master Yoda
I reckon you two guys are hallucinating. You seem to be under some kind of pressure. Perhaps pressure of living in Karachi. Take it easy and don’t visit KMB for few days. You will feel better. If not come and visit Islamabad for few days. Either you will get better or die of boredom.
@ kd.
instead i wud visit do talwar and blow a few thousands as a stress buster.
as for hallucinations….naaw, its all hersey, if i wud have been hallucinating i wud have been seeing three of you instead of the routine two KDs
@KD sarkar…sir with all due respect…you cannot imagine how I wanted it to be true….about 5min from my last comment the cable net was shut down…and I was thinking exactly as you have advised….until I saw this…
http://twitpic.com/11p6s3
this is the number plate of the ill fated bus involved in the first blast yesterday near the nursery flyover….now Iam not sure where to go first…
Since you have chosen to be our shrink let me tell you that hullucinations caused without the help of any drug or substance is a continuous process…if I had been hallucinating about the “mash & bangers” as I love to call them I couldn’t have claimed an induced break in their regular activity….on a night like the last one…tonight there was a one minute delibrate gap between the end of my prayer and the nearest banging of the door….and other sounds…I am sure everything will return to normal tomorrow in case you want to corroborate my story….the mash and bangers can’t quit no matter where I am…jamshedtown,margala top or jacobs pits….thanks for the invite anyways…I cannot die of boredom anywhere in the world…as the dead poet said
mehfil ay janna ho kay maqtal ho kay mai khanna ho
Jis jaga Jaein Bana leytey Hain Hum Apni Jaga..
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Target Killings in Karachi is just because of increase terrorism of Talibans + ANP in Karachi, they are targeting Mohajirs from Mountains and in reaction pukhtoons killed in other parts of Karachi.
Kamran Shahid went to karachi, People telling him the truth, people showing Masjids from which firing starts, also see the Taliban fighter on mosques rooftops, watch the illegal Taliban checkposts in Karachi on Mountains.
it’s easy to blame MQM sitting outside karachi or for political gains but the reality is different.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a19FZu675go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYrc0a07HnE
People are very sympathetic about poor pukhtoons,
but what about Mohajirs killings from the hands of those poor Pukhtoon in Karachi in the form of Talibans and ANP .Banaras and Katti Pahari is famous for killings and lootings of Mohajirs just because of their ethnicity, even women are not pardoned, repeated incidents of their torture, Kidnappings and even sexual harassment reported but no sympathetic voice for them just because they are Urdu Speaks and people still talking about Innocent Pukhtoons ?
What about Innocent Mohajirs ?
Just because they vote for MQM they need to be killed ??
@ Jami et al
It may be relevent to present situation in Karach to quote last two lines in Sansikrat with their translation of TS Eliot’s most famous poem THE WASTE LAND.
Datta.Dayadhvam.Damyata
Shannith shannith shannith
Translation:
Give. Sympathise. Control
Peace peace peace
@jami saab….sir can you see the smiling faces of the locals …as if they are watching a monkey dance….?
@KD sarkar…..indeed the london bridge is falling down….being taken over by the the GOOGLE WAVE…!
on whome this imported bridge is falling upon
abhi half life nikalney baith rahey hain agar deduction sahi hua toh …