Best wishes to Mumbai

Folks at Metroblogging Mumbai are covering the bombings in their city. Looking at that reminded me of the bomb blasts in Karachi, and the earthquake days. What a twisted world this is.

31 Comments so far

  1. alybaba (unregistered) on July 12th, 2006 @ 3:48 am

    Disgusting. I hope to God the ISI has no hand in this, not that it matters, since they will be blamed anyways. Its fairly obvious that “muslims” are involved.


  2. Concerned (unregistered) on July 12th, 2006 @ 5:07 am

    Hey Alybaba dont just assume that muslims did it. There are alot of other possibilities.


  3. Neena (unregistered) on July 12th, 2006 @ 7:26 am
  4. UnholySaint (unregistered) on July 12th, 2006 @ 8:13 am

    Lets not compare it with an the earthquake in Pakistan. Bombing and earthquakes are 2 differnt things. Ppl are making the argument that ‘muslims’ will be blamed for it. I say, why shouldnt they? 9-11, London, Spain, Saudi. Why is it hard for them to kill some indians? Let not run away from the blame. Just ignoring or adjusting to some conspiracy theory would solve the problem.

    What I dont understand is why is it so hard to believe muslims can kill? Is this incident not common in Karachi? Killing Shia doctors.. blowing ppl up in the masjid.

    I am enraged that those vile pieces of subhumans who killed innocent poor ppl on that train do not deserve any sympathy.

    I understand how many feel about India, but the fact is India is to Pakistan like England is to the US – its motherland. We share our culture and history with them. We are as much a part of them as they are of us.

    God bless every innocent soul in the train.


  5. Concerned (unregistered) on July 12th, 2006 @ 8:32 am

    The indian media is blaming Laskar-e-Taiba (LET), LET has condemned this act already on television. The thing about this group is they dont fear any one, so if they had done they would have claimed it.

    I feel for the indians but to start pointing fingers on muslims is stupid. I am not gonna come up with any consiracy theory but we have to be open to other ideas. Dont close your mind.


  6. Concerned (unregistered) on July 12th, 2006 @ 8:38 am

    “India is to Pakistan like England is to the US – its motherland”

    I disagree India is not my motherland, its just my country’s past. My motherland is Pakistan and no one in the US will ever call England their motherland either. Get your loyalties right Unholysaint.

    Also I am in not sympathising with any bomber, I am just being objective.


  7. Zain (unregistered) on July 12th, 2006 @ 9:25 am

    Dear Concerned – Does it really matter whether I call India my motherland or not? Well at least for me it doesn’t! I say that the whole world is my motherland.

    I regret that from the whole point you picked up a comment which does not matter at all here at this point in time. What do you say about muslims killing muslims in Pakistan. A lot of Shia doctors were killed!! Do we have any answer to this? NO

    I have to slightly agree with Unholysaint. Muslims have earned this bad name for themselves by their wrong doings.


  8. Neena (unregistered) on July 12th, 2006 @ 9:26 am

    Concerned,

    India is to Pakistan like England is to the US – its motherland

    But it’s mine since my parents birth place lies in India. As far as I know most Pakistani’s above 50 were born in present India, as it was more densely populated.

    Get your loyalties right Unholysaint.

    Excuse me, what does it had to do with loyalities? If you do not consider India your Motherland then why are you so pissed?

    BTW, there are many peaceful people in India and Pakistan who are trying to create friendly relations between two countries and eventually the people like you will be defeated. Sorry buddy direct your energy some where else.


  9. Zain (unregistered) on July 12th, 2006 @ 9:29 am

    And dear Mumbai bloggers and my friends in India Pierre Menezes, Sandeep, Shekhar, Harish, Garima, Amita, Anuradha… I know words cannot express the sorrow here but we are with you! There are a whole lot bunch of people in Pakistan that love you and can feel for you guys out there.

    Those who have done it are cowards who cannot come face to face and fight.

    Best wishes from your friends in Pakistan.


  10. Kashif Aziz (unregistered) on July 12th, 2006 @ 10:03 am

    This act of terrorism should be condemened at all levels. My sympathies for the deceased and injured.


  11. Poo Poo Head (unregistered) on July 12th, 2006 @ 10:23 am

    Holy Saint:

    England is motherland to US. Just ask Blair :-) Any thing but vice versa could be true.

    Why have you assumed that Muslims are involved in this bombings. You are a typical example of a man who is just coward and would never stand for his rights. If you are held responsible for some thing twice and then the third time I am sure you would feel like you might have done it. Its psychological issue I guess.

    Though I condemn these bomb attacks but if anything in this life is certain, if history has taught us anything, it is that you can kill anyone.

    By the way, do not start cursing me, I am going to sleep early tonight and yeah I was the one who “suggested a story” for this post.


  12. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on July 12th, 2006 @ 10:46 am

    Unlike past traditions Indians linked the recent terrorist wave with Al-qaeda rather Pakistan,could be due to so called *Friendship movement* between two countries.

    In past every evil was associated with USSR or communism by Neocons. Now they have Alqaeda. *sigh*


  13. UnholySaint (unregistered) on July 12th, 2006 @ 10:49 am

    Concerned. You may want to check your facts. I understand what we are taught in “Pak Studies” but when you face the real world, things are not that simple. Its not black or white. Alot of shades of grey.

    Also, what is your race? Dont say Pakistani, because that is a nationality. Your race is Indian, so is mine although I was born in Karachi, so was my dad and my granddad. Travel to UK, US, Australia, FarEast and it will give a broader prespective.

    For those who want to give Muslims the benefit of doubt, I respect their opinion. I am in no mood to be that naive. We, the Muslims are most probably responsible for it.

    Its beyond my ability to explain the deeper social factors contributing to our attitudes but let me give you a glimpse of the cause of the problem.
    In 2003, I attended an Islamic Seminar in Houston TX. There I met Dr. Mohd Mamdouh, Phd in Arabic. Here is what he said – “Stay away from Philosophy courses in Education. If your child is asked to take a class in Philosophy, ask for some other alternative class that your child can take”

    ” What is to be done, O Muslims? for I do not recognize myself.
    I am neither Christian, nor Jew, nor Magian, nor Muslim.
    I am not of the East, nor of the West, nor of the land, nor of the sea;
    I am not of Nature’s mint, nor of the circling heaven.
    I am not of earth, nor of water, nor of air, nor of fire;
    I am not of the empyrean, nor of the dust, nor of existence, nor of entity.
    I am not of India, nor of China, nor of Bulgaria, nor of Saqsin
    I am not of the kingdom of ‘Iraqian, nor of the country of Khorasan
    I am not of the this world, nor of the next, nor of Paradise, nor of Hell
    I am not of Adam, nor of Eve, nor of Eden and Rizwan.
    My place is the Placeless, my trace is the Traceless”
    —- RUMI

    Lets get our loyalties right 1st.


  14. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on July 12th, 2006 @ 11:20 am

    I visited sepiamutiny link and then press Ctl+F to search keyword “Pakistan”.Unlike past,I found very few Anti-Pakistan instance.hmm so far so good


  15. Karachiite (unregistered) on July 12th, 2006 @ 4:04 pm

    The biggest conspiracy theory is to blame Muslims for everything. If a toad croaks in Bulgaria it is the Muslims who’ve done it. Unfortunately Muslims have themselves started thinking like that.

    The fact is that nine eleven has never been proven to have been carried out by Muslims. Yes, we know that the US govt. and the media have said so but where’s the proof? I would be very interested to see how solid concrete was vaporized in the crash but the passport of one of the attackers survived.

    It doesn’t mean that Muslims don’t do anything wrong, just that even when they don’t do anything wrong “someone” seems to do it on their behalf.

    Lately “someone” seems very eager to spoil things between India and Pakistan. The attack at Nishtar Park in was so sophisticated that it cannot be figured out who did it and how.

    That same “someone” appears to be behind the events in Bombay, the purpose of which is to blame Pakistan and to pin it down under increasing pressure.


  16. Adnan (unregistered) on July 12th, 2006 @ 4:08 pm

    there is a poll running on CNN
    about indo-pak relationship.I didnt submit the vote because I didnt find option I dont give a damn in the available list.


  17. Javaad (unregistered) on July 12th, 2006 @ 5:17 pm

    I sympathize with my friends in Mumbai. I live in Karachi and I can imagine the mayhem and fear and all the trouble that Mumbai-walas had to go thru last night. No matter who did this and what were the motives just imagine the agony of the citizens of this great metropolis of our times.

    As a Karachi-itte, I am used to all sort of nuisance caused by terrorists and our corrupt and inefficient ruling elite. I think that rather than blaming and counter-blaming each other and declaring ourselves as enemies of state and religion, the citizens of this subcontinent should focus on their problems and launch efforts to find solutions.


  18. Concerned (unregistered) on July 12th, 2006 @ 6:42 pm

    First off my parents came from India too, but I will say this again my loyalties lie with Pakistan. My race is southeast asian and I have always corrected people when called an Indian. I was born in Pakistan and my motherland is Pakistan. Its easy to think that the entire world is my motherland but there comes a time when you have to make a choice. I am sure everyone of you will one day.

    Neena; I am not looking for a fight but go out in the world US, UK etc and you will find there is always some sort back stabbing going on in offices. Obviously there are more Indians out there then Pakistanis so we are mostly discriminated against.

    There are certain things which have to be black and white, gray is not an option.

    Muslims are always blamed, I am just tired of that. I agree they have killed quite a lot of ppl, but you cannot always blame them.


  19. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on July 12th, 2006 @ 9:06 pm

    @Concerned:Dont take Unholysaint seriously.He is just another fan of Pat Robertson.He has right to say anything like Pat has.


  20. UnholySaint (unregistered) on July 13th, 2006 @ 12:55 am

    Adnan, Have you ever written to Pat Robertson or Billy Graham in protest? I have. IM me and I will show you the letter I mailed to him. It contained quotes from Deuteronomy about how to sell one’s daughter in slavery and how to kill a non-believer. So, how many times have you stood for the Muslims? Written to any congressman for the illegal deportation of Muslims? Have you? IM me, I will show you that letter as well. Ever called your representative in your area regarding your concerns to protect a minority population in your neighbourhood? So, get your feet wet before you try to splash on someone else.

    About loyalty, I say Jalal ad-Din Muhammad Rumi(whose poem I quoted earlier) has the last word.


  21. wasiq (unregistered) on July 13th, 2006 @ 1:37 am

    Is priyanka chopra and Amit jee ok ? iam so worried…..and what about that character “bhigou matrey”……!


  22. Neena (unregistered) on July 13th, 2006 @ 1:38 am

    @Concerned,

    I am not looking for a fight

    But buddy you’re still proving the term “divide and Rule”. Can you tell me who is benefiting with this Indian and Pakistani hatred besides few generals? We all know if we have friendly relations with India then our defense expenditure would be lower and that money funneled into literacy and health care projects. If by some miracle our law and order situation improved and democracy returned then may be we can have bussinesses and most of our young people could able to find jobs.

    but go out in the world US, UK etc

    I’m out here in the US.

    and you will find there is always some sort back stabbing going on in offices. Obviously there are more Indians out there then Pakistanis so we are mostly discriminated against.

    I didn’t get this part? Who is backstabbing?

    @ Adnan

    Of course, you don’t give a damn to India and Pakistan relations. After all then all the money which is spent on our defense will be spent of people’s welfare and literacy and I guess you’re against it?


  23. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on July 13th, 2006 @ 10:49 am

    @Neena:Asusual you missed the whole point.I am not in favor of so called friendship or one-sided friendship.

    regarding defense,Inddo-Pak relation is just an excuse to waste money on personal intrest.They would also have excuses to spend money on crappy things.

    Do you believe that every one in Pakistan Army is saint?


  24. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on July 13th, 2006 @ 10:52 am


    Adnan, Have you ever written to Pat Robertson or Billy Graham in protest?

    Yep i have personally contacted Pat and Ann coutler.I also replied nina shea in my blog and sent her link.

    I mentioned Pat because you were being so ignorant like him and Ann coutler about 9/11 attacks and I am not surprised at all


  25. Hasan (unregistered) on July 14th, 2006 @ 3:27 am

    India, as we all know,is a very awry and diverse a place.It is probable that attacks were carried out by muslims in persuance of their hobby but I guess we should limit realistically the probability.
    I think there is a forty precent or even higher all together chance that rebels in other part of India carried out the attack.Not to be dismissed is the ‘very’ foriegn hand deep in the west.
    Its only fair to give muslims a 35-40% chance of carrying out the bombings.


  26. Hasan (unregistered) on July 14th, 2006 @ 3:28 am

    oh sorry its 55-60% there in the last para


  27. Neena (unregistered) on July 14th, 2006 @ 9:48 am

    There are some points in this post which are thought provoking for Karachiites.

    http://gauravsabnis.blogspot.com/2006/07/about-terrorism.html


  28. Mansoor 'Manny' Siddiqui (unregistered) on July 14th, 2006 @ 10:21 am

    Neena,

    What exactly do you think are the thought provoking points in that post?

    I just don’t understand why Indians are against Pakistan, even after 50 years of independence? I am sure you are an Indian too and left the previous message b/c you wanted to spread the hatered that the blog owner has against Pakistan! Why blame Pakistan? Why? I hope he does not see the hands of any Pakistani in his birth!

    A word of advice for you. Stop spreading hate, no matter in what form. I work with Indian, many of them are my close friends and I would continue those relationships even after knowing that there are poison filled people like Gaurav on this earth …

    By the way, if you are not Indian, then please accept my apologies only for calling you an Indian.


  29. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on July 14th, 2006 @ 3:34 pm

    yes neena that blog provoked a thought about Indians.”They are bloody ignorant soul on earth who dont know what extreemism they are supporting in name of Hinduism”

    Go and preach where sun doesn’t shine.You are not welcomed here with such ignorant thoughts


  30. Concerned (unregistered) on July 15th, 2006 @ 1:36 am

    Neena, I was a little suprised that you posted this article. Please do tell us, what did you find thought provoking in this.

    I really want to know why anyone in karachi would be interested in how much indians hate us. We dont care!


  31. Shouv (unregistered) on July 21st, 2006 @ 7:28 pm

    hey people…i am a bombay dude and im well proud of my city for its ability to bounce back after these cowardly blasts..i would also like to say how pleasantly surprised i am to read such moderate and caring responses from pakistanis in this blog (honestly speaking i had a different and rather extremist perception about pakistani thought process and mentalty)..i have a few pakistani buddies in london who are great guys..but their mentality would go a bit cynical when it came to india(anti hindu/anti india)..even though they watched indian movies and songs and what not..and that would really get to me..but its great to see that so many of u guys sympathize and care. X cheers fellas..



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