Nation wide protest against the Government

We all know the hue and cry the opposition is raising over the Women’s Rights Bill. According to Dawn;

The Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal (MMA) announced on Thursday that it would launch a countrywide protest campaign against the government from Friday (today) for changing the Hudood laws tabled in the National Assembly in the name of women’s protection bill and vowed to put a strong resistance to all efforts to change the Islamic laws on foreign pressure.

Reading this news item sure made sense of the voice on the loud speaker last night that was blasting the government to hell and trying to raise the public to revolt against the cruelties of the present government. The voice on the loud speaker continued for well over 20 minutes. They didn’t get any support but a lot of people sure were angry at them for destroying the peace and quiet of the neighborhood. Particularly at dinner time. They started their campaign against the government earlier than they said. Guess they figured there was no time to waste.

Here’s the text of the Women’s Rights Bill as tabled in National Assembly. Read, draw your own conclusions and lets have a discussion on how you guys perceive this bill.

21 Comments so far

  1. mansoor (unregistered) on August 25th, 2006 @ 12:54 pm

    read through the bill, and it seems quite logical.

    The parts i like the most are

    1. Making the charge bailable.

    2. “in case of zina or rape the identity of woman or her family member shall not be publicized and violation thereof shall be punishable with six months imprisonment or fine or with both”

  2. MB (unregistered) on August 25th, 2006 @ 2:01 pm

    It’s one more drama. If Musharraf has a will he will do it by hook or crook no matter what. If not He will play the old media thingy, will bargain (may be he ask the mullahs to let him have the wardi, who knows) & keep everyone happy as he does so cleverly. They were getting bored so they came up with a new play. That’s it. The women in this country will be screwed as they have been forever, unless we change the minds & souls and not the inked designs on paper.

    If we count all the govt. officials since 1947 and if they turn out to be 1000 (ministers etc) I firmly believe 990 have broken the words, the swear they took upon, so who was punished? We have everything but only on paper & will be so until we decide its enough.

    Amid such disparity, at least such laws will, in theory give the woman what they are fighting for, the lawyers have something to play with in the court & the NGO’s (Nothing Good Organizations) will have some more dollars by fooling the Western governments but the plight of the woman on the street will remain the same. Everyone except her will be happy with this drama.

    One thing that pisses me off is the media channels calling the political tattuu’s in their programs who have bullshit of idea about LAW, ISLAMIC LAW, HISTORY, QURAN etc. They keep on wasting valuable time in pulling each others legs. It’s as if we have called a chemist to talk about geography, a doctor to talk about paintings, a musician to talk about engineering. Being an MNA and MPA doesn’t mean they are credible and knowledgeable enough for debates. Such sensitive issues are handled by experts in domain. But being the way we are there is no chance we will arrange any such debate. It’s a good drama to follow if you are getting bored.

    And if we keep all the above political aspect aside. There can be a good technical debate on this one. Everyone welcome.

  3. Hira (unregistered) on August 25th, 2006 @ 3:50 pm

    two words for MMA:
    fuck off.

  4. yo yo (unregistered) on August 25th, 2006 @ 6:23 pm

    There is no enforcement of Law in Pakistan, So what difference does it really make. Instead of changing the law and appearing as a liberal champion. Mr Musharraf should spend energies enforcing the existing law. Jirga, Chaudry style control over the masses is what has left Pakistanis in the dark.
    MMA would have more support in the masses if they actually start applying what they preach. I still long to see any religious party who would get out of the mosques/madersas and do social welfare for the people. Small things like cleaning a street is not only Sunnah but has far reaching effects in a country thirsty for mercy.

  5. anon_khi (unregistered) on August 25th, 2006 @ 8:07 pm

    I wonder if this will go the same route as the religion column in the new machine readable passport? Who is running this country????

  6. SWA (unregistered) on August 25th, 2006 @ 8:37 pm

    @ Hira: WELL SAID!

    Dunno what reaches of hell will MMA burn in for obstructing justice to a considerable portion of the society and not allowing justice to prevail.

    And those retards call themselves Muslim.

  7. YO YO (unregistered) on August 25th, 2006 @ 8:56 pm

    One General came and made Hudood laws..cause he needed the support of Islamic parties to surive.

    Next General comes and modifies the law to survive because Islamic parties are on the wrong side now.

    What they actually delivered to Pakistan..NOTHING.

  8. Hira (unregistered) on August 25th, 2006 @ 9:33 pm

    at the end of the day its the choice between lesser evils, no, yo yo?
    would you deliberately knowing that the law is not just unjust, unislamic but also inhumane not chose to change it just because you think another general is using it as a means to stay?
    and keeping that in mind, the fact that mma finds public manipulation through islam as a perfect way for them to stay. the uneducated massses are being used in the name of islam. where several ulema (and mind you, these just weren’t run-of-the-mill ulema, these were learned and educated people who knew what they were talking about) agreed that it needs ammendments and that the huddod ordinance was in NO way islamic?
    islam has ofcourse nothing to do with it. fact of the matter is, the general is using the wrong done by one for HIS manipulation of the masses, to righten it for his manipulation while mma is using the entire scenario in the name of ‘islam’. which one would you chose?

  9. SWA (unregistered) on August 25th, 2006 @ 10:02 pm

    Shitty shitty politics. Makes it so hard to just DO what is right!

  10. Ahmed (unregistered) on August 25th, 2006 @ 10:33 pm

    guys sorry for a totally unrelated comment. Umpire Darell hair is offering to resign if ICC pays him $500,000 by 31st august dunno whether USD or AUSD but son of a gun he is check the story at
    again sorry for an unrelated post

  11. Da-Man (unregistered) on August 25th, 2006 @ 11:47 pm

    We talk about how compassionate Islam is, and how it gives everyone equal rights including women and minorities, yet I see no compassion in the religious parties. What religion are they following?

  12. yo yo (unregistered) on August 26th, 2006 @ 12:05 am

    HIRA…The masses are not made fool in the name of Islam. The masses in Pakistan already dislike Islamic parties. Masses in Pakistan have been made fool by the educated and the powerful elite. In 59 years no real Mullah has ruled Pakistan. We have been ruled and exploited by people educated in top world colleges. MMA is like a bunch of stupid kids in front of the Army and established political parties. The latter had time and opputunities in the office but what they did….NOTHING.
    Its like diverting attention from themselves to a mentally retarded kid for the real problems of Pakistanis.

  13. Dee (unregistered) on August 26th, 2006 @ 1:34 am

    @yo yo: Well said :).Whenever there is Mullah Bashing i think, when was the last time they ruled over us?.
    I was watching a North-American talk show yesterday, it was about few(2%) holding the rein of America (40%)financially.The point made by one guest was, societies come apart if they feel they have no hope.If the difference between rich and poor keep getting bigger and bigger then at one point ppl will realize that no matter what they do they will never able to realize their hopes and dreams.Now above statement was directed to NorthAmerican population.
    But we can see in Pakistan thats what happened.Rulers try to rule via Fear.Some create fear among us in the name of Neighbouring country,others said Mullahs will turn this country into Taliban Land.But who made Talban?.Now if you look around then you will see poor ppl have no hope and the gap between rich and poor is widening everyday.Never mind the GDP growth i am sure it is inflated to get more Loans.The end of story is we (the awam)is bussy surving(barely) and our rulers having the time of their life cashing upon our miseries.

  14. Poo Poo Head (unregistered) on August 26th, 2006 @ 6:50 am

    Okay, could some one be more rationale and tell why MMA is rejecting that bill. There must be some reason behind that …

  15. SWA (unregistered) on August 26th, 2006 @ 11:33 am

    @ DEE and Yo YO: yes they never ruled over us and I am glad they never did. If they can be this irresponsible with public affairs and this violent and uncivilized as they have proven to be with whatever amount of government is available to them, I would be very afraid and very concerned for Pakistan if they ever got a chance to get anymore.

    Cause I am pretty sure that God would not save Pakistan then.

  16. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on August 26th, 2006 @ 11:42 am

    @YoYO:well said.100%agreed.

    BTW ,does anyone know that Dr.Abdul Qadeer Khan suffering from Cancer now?yeah same Qadeer khan who is credit for making pakistan a nuclear state as well as saved the pants of *mighty* Pakistan Army and bureaucracy by accepting all sins(which he never did) to transfer nuclear technology?I see Pakistani Blogsphere is totally deaf about him even me about the person who is most respectable after Jinnah?

  17. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on August 26th, 2006 @ 11:57 am

    @DEE:American neocons always won the battle by spreading fear.See tha Rumsfeld and Wolfwitz,the neocons they spread fear by telling lies about USSR in late 70s.Visit the following link,a classic documentary by Adam Curtis of BBC:

    there are both hi and low resolution clips and really reveal how neocons in US captured the main political machinary.

  18. mansoor (unregistered) on August 26th, 2006 @ 1:25 pm

    YoYo: The masses are not made fool in the name of Islam. The masses in Pakistan already dislike Islamic parties unfortunately, that is not the case… many people in nazimabad, north nazimabad, gulshan actually *prefer* MMA over other parties :S i dont see how or why.. but they do

  19. yo yo (unregistered) on August 26th, 2006 @ 5:01 pm

    SWA…My point was if they never ruled us then how are they responsible for our miseries? You are afraid of them ruling then you can go and vote against them. But donot blame them for problems they did not create.

    MANSOOR…if people in the areas you mentioned liker MMA over other parties then surely its not their fault. Maybe its time for other parties to clean up their act. Other parties had time in office and they did not deliver.

  20. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on August 26th, 2006 @ 11:47 pm

    Mansoor is actually pretty ignorant about his assumption.I am ex resident of Nazimabad and current resident of North Nazimabad area.People here still prefer MQM over any other party.Gulshan i am not sure but many friends of mine who are in gulshan did cast vote to MQM.

    Mansoor is actually forgetting that Abdul sattar afghani,the Jamat-e-Islami candidate was elected from clifton area.

  21. Extiinct (unregistered) on August 27th, 2006 @ 6:21 pm

    As far as I can understand after reading this bill is that its extremely reasonable. Now im sure there must be a few loopholes in there that could be exploited but on the whole it does what a Women’s Rights Bill should do – Protect Women.

    There need to be proper laws that would help women and not incriminate them criminally further (which is what happens under the Hudood Ordinance) before there can be implementation of these laws. I dont care what agendas this present government hopes to fulfil by passing this bill. What I do care about is that these laws are reasonable and sound as far as I can see. And someday, hopefully there will be a government that would implement these laws justly.

    But we need to have good laws for that. We cannot wait or expect one ruler to do everything right.

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