Make love not war

After writing about the hooligans at Jinnah’s mausoleum, it tickled me to read that Jinnah’s resting place has become a sanctuary for the harassed couples of this city.

I’m glad the park is off-limits to the good-for-nothing (or is that good-for-a-bribe) policeman of Karachi. I have to admit it never occurred to me to take a girl to the park – I’m afraid it probably wouldn’t go down too well with her – but there is something strangely satisfying in the fact that Karachi’s ultimate secularist and liberal is protecting the lovebirds of this city from beyond the grave. It’s not sacrilege; it’s poetic.

17 Comments so far

  1. IllusionFS (unregistered) on September 23rd, 2006 @ 7:24 am

    :D :D

    aik aur jaga bhi hai. PAF Museum.

  2. mansoor (unregistered) on September 23rd, 2006 @ 9:21 am

    Very poetic! I wonder why no one ever thought of it this way before :p

  3. anon_again (unregistered) on September 23rd, 2006 @ 9:31 am

    this was the key sentence if you will “…it is particularly popular with poorer Karachi residents who can’t afford to go to swanky restaurants…”. So yes Cyril, i guess, you would probably escort the girl to some upscale restaurant.

  4. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on September 23rd, 2006 @ 11:22 am

    it’s poetic.

    Yeah and now such people will really make Jinnah’s mausoleum a local ‘Taj Mahal’.

    the mullahs and their families

    This staetment really shows another sign of ignorance and stupidity of the lefts of this country.The writer assumes that molvis and their families visit that place while reality is entirely opposite.Whenever I visited that place,I only found masi community and few lowest middle class people over there with kids who were enjoying moments.That was ancient period when good families prefered to visit that place for enjoying life,not anymore.

    I wonder why no one ever thought of it this way before

    Mansoor is very happy.Best of luck and enjoy your weekend.

  5. SWA (unregistered) on September 23rd, 2006 @ 12:05 pm

    @ Adnan Siddiqui: its such a shame that our society is so severely class based. Well, add to that ethnic based, gender based, provincial based, race based, status based… what kind of discrimintion is left really that we dont do?

    @ Cy: good post! I am glad theres still some romance in Karachi

  6. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on September 23rd, 2006 @ 12:17 pm

    umm SWA are you targetting me or lefts?

  7. Jamash (unregistered) on September 23rd, 2006 @ 12:20 pm

    Cy you should visit Safari Park in the morning hours. You will find a set of lovebirds under every single tree :) .

    It is not just lovebirds chirping under the tree, there is a more gruesome reality under the surface of this picture. It is a social disorder which may soon burst out of proportion. I don’t want to go in the details here but is shows that our society has double standards, specially Girls don’t let their parents and family know where they are going , and they often end up in deep trouble… Many are physically Assaulted, mentally assaulted and still have to make a compromise to live with an un fit partner for the rest of their lives just to save the family Honor .

  8. Adnan (unregistered) on September 23rd, 2006 @ 12:46 pm

    jamash well said and certainly it happens in our society. Most of youngers couple commit sucide due to classfication which was pointed out by SWA. My friend the reality is that such classfications were actually promoted by our own families. A poor will be called a poor no matter how much do you despise it. Read the article,Ramzan Jafery, an 18-year labourer at a local textile mill is dating with Shazia, his 30-year-old companion. Do you believe they will ever get married? If someone wishes to marry a girl who is 12 years older than the biggest opposition will emerge from Parents and they will react because they have to face society. What will be the reaction of your parents? will they not discriminate?

  9. yo yo (unregistered) on September 23rd, 2006 @ 9:23 pm

    Cy…I should give you a Medal for making the most bizarre connections. It’s strange how secularist groups use Jinnah to give their stance Legitamcy.
    Stuff like Love birds dating at Jinnah’s mausoleum under “A Secular Champion”. As if his soul is guarding the park limits, Even when u know his mausoleum needs four guards all the time while the city plunders in depths of crime. I think secularists like you are as disillusioned as the extremist right in Pakistan. Maybe if you talk more about real problems of Pakistanis rather than what gets secular NGOs money from sponsors. You will have more legitimacy.

  10. Zaki (unregistered) on September 23rd, 2006 @ 10:35 pm

    @Adnan Siddiqui: Quite a pity you do not consider the “masi community” and the “lowest middle class” capable of rearing good families. I was always taught to judge good people from the bad based on their individual qualities (a standard by which you don’t do to well, Sir).

  11. Adnan (unregistered) on September 24th, 2006 @ 12:16 pm

    dear zaki

    I’m sorry that my words hurt you but those words shoudn’t be treated as ‘racial’.Here masi community doesnt mean that they were being offended.Masi community was certainly called those women class who work in our homes.

    Let me elaborate what ‘good family’ means in our society.Here good family means good background like associating different castes or having wealth. It was my mistake that I didn’t highlight the word to add sarcasm. your thoughts are not different than mine[read above as I also despise such classfication] but it does exist and people like me and you become victom of it. It’s good to face reality[which is bitter] rather rejecting it. if cursing me can change reality than I’m all yours but you people don’t have courage to remove such classfication. Atleast I am not being a hypocrite.

  12. SWA (unregistered) on September 24th, 2006 @ 3:14 pm

    Classification is not done physically. If you just stop classifying (or labelling) people and start looking at them as just working class trying to earn their bread and butter, all worthy of their respect whatever they do, its all thats needed. There isnt necessarily a heroic or revolutionary effort necessary to stop doing such discrimination.

  13. Zaki (unregistered) on September 24th, 2006 @ 6:16 pm


    Thank you for the clarification. I do feel that we need to be more careful in our choice or words though.

    BTW, I am a Karachite much like yourself. :)


  14. Adnan (unregistered) on September 25th, 2006 @ 8:38 am

    SWA:The point is that members of our families and society do label them and nothing done practically otherwise I think politicians of this country re enough to make statments having terms like ‘we should’,’we will’ etc.

  15. wasiq (unregistered) on September 27th, 2006 @ 2:56 am

    And i thought our house was the only sanctuary in jamshed town….where lovebirds from all over the world come especially during the martial laws…anyways,
    I must apologies to all the girls,i could have taken there with all the right intentions with the parents permissions and blessings of the four hundred plus uncles,aunties and cousins but i did not…and you know why? at this so called sanctuary…the north korean naval attache can walk-in any time with a wreath made out of the finest flowers nowhere to be found in the town not even in the country……Be fair let the author reply first…..!

  16. Arifa (unregistered) on September 28th, 2006 @ 10:02 pm

    The mazar? Interesting. I thought Do Darya was the best or even better (if the girl is allowed to stay out late) *Oyester Rocks*. There are other *Romantic* places too within the city limits- Agha Khan hospital the grounds by the lake. I don’t think when someone talks about Masi community they mean anything worse than saying hey my crowd doesn’t gel with that crowd. I felt it here in NYC as well. You just don’t mesh well with some people and it is ok. Every group of people is *classified* and it is everyone else’s wish to either join them or not. I went to a very multinational school here and realized that we get along with our kind of people better than the rest, even after being so far away from home. It doesn’t mean I didn’t make any friends from any other country, it just means people from South Asia understood me better and I had more fun with them. Same goes for Karachi, it is a cosmopolitan city and we have several sects/ if not nationalities living together and I must say not all of them get along very well. I don’t think that is discrimination. There is a thin line and a greyer area.

  17. I-HATE-BURGER-BACCHAY (unregistered) on October 2nd, 2006 @ 11:01 am

    So Cy, do you pray for free sex society in Pakistan everyday so you get the satisfaction of knowing that the dominant religion and society that has protected you thus far is tormented and attacked and brought down?

    Sorry, even a leftist in America would say you are crazy. You aren’t an open-minded left wing person. You are a secular FUNDAMENTALIST.. You wage JIHAD against Islam because of your own disturbed nature.

    Just my 2 cents!

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