Food for the soul, but not your body

During this month the government has long figured out how to make yet another category of second class citizens – those who choose to exercise the seemingly innocuous right to eat.

Forced to hide in corners, surreptitiously nibbling, puffing or gulping, the persecuted food eaters didn’t have places to indulge their dark art for many years. And in a reversal of roles, it’s the food eaters who would plaintively knock on windows, crying, “Bhai, khaana toh khila do.”

But as sanity slowly returns, it’s good to know that several places are opening up for take away in the early afternoon and that bakeries are opening earlier. If you know of any place that will sell food in the day, post it here. You will at least earn the blessing of Tonacatecuhtli, Annapurna, Rongo, and Uke-Mochi – the gods of food in various cultures.

37 Comments so far

  1. mansoor (unregistered) on September 26th, 2006 @ 1:18 am

    i hear pizza hut opens for lunch during ramzans…

  2. daym (unregistered) on September 26th, 2006 @ 1:51 am

    i guess the pains of being a minority in pakistan

  3. anon_again (unregistered) on September 26th, 2006 @ 2:18 am

    did you ever give a thought to getting some stuff the night before and having it during the lunch/ namaz break at around 1 p.m.?

  4. verysmart (unregistered) on September 26th, 2006 @ 5:00 am

    hahahahaha… beecharay.
    but really, you guys have the chance of having a breakfast at 8-9 am, unlike the fasting population…

    This exaggerated post looks like as if its a disasterous condition for the non-muslims, believe me if the 96% of the city can do it from 0500 hrs to 1830 hrs… you guys can certainly do it from 0900 hrs to 1830hrs…. plus water is not out of bounds for you anyways.

  5. Murtaza (unregistered) on September 26th, 2006 @ 8:11 am

    And i hear its worse in the UAE, i was told Hindu people are ‘used’ to fasting in Ramadan because of the stern laws there. Supposedly people are beaten up and taken into custody for eating during the day in Ramadan irrespective of faith.

  6. Sa'ad (unregistered) on September 26th, 2006 @ 8:42 am

    CY i feel your pains.
    Do the samundri daaku of UAE have nothing better to do than to force fasting down everyone’s throat? Im am a practicing muslim myself but this collective enforcement is something im not proud of and is the nr one on my list of things id like to see changed.

  7. Kashif (unregistered) on September 26th, 2006 @ 9:39 am

    “seemingly innocuous right to eat” – well, you are free to eat anytime if you are indoors, else migrate to a freeland.

  8. Captain's Log (unregistered) on September 26th, 2006 @ 9:43 am

    This is an Islamic society so its purpose is to help Muslims and I am sure that if food stalls are closed then it definitely helps Muslims. When one sees other eating then satan pursuades him not to fast. “So many people are not fasting , if I don’t fast then what’s the big deal” would be the first and most powerful argument of Satan. This is just stupid whining. I am sure there are plenty of places where you could eat but no way, CY you have to make an issue out of this. When you go to church , you respect certain values there so when you live in Islamic society, you have to respect certain traditions. Its simple if you try to understand.

    This post sounds like that non muslims are not allowed to eat in Pakistan during ramadan. I bet you could buy fruits all day, bakery items all day even most restaurants open by 2 pm at most and there are always some places open all day.

    People who visits this web site should protest against such posts. I can’t understand why we are so defensive when some one talks about our soceity or religion. Any one who is never been to Pakistan and is reading this post would get an impression that there are no minority rights here.

    CY, please post sensitively and do not pretend that you do not belong here.

    Mansoor , Why are you so impressed with this western culture,you are always the first one to agree on such things. Please think before you comment next time .

  9. Adnan Mansoor (unregistered) on September 26th, 2006 @ 10:00 am

    This post does not merit place on KMB.

    CY: Please take some time to write something about Karachi, and not to promote dissent among the readers opver here.

  10. Farhan (unregistered) on September 26th, 2006 @ 11:44 am

    People if anyone wants to eat during the day ,let it be his faith or health let him , btw this post is about Karachi , about those who belong to this society and our great city of Karachi , it’s true that I will be tempted if I see someone eating in front of me and they have to be considerate of me , but we cannot force our faith on others , Islam does not teach us that .
    Answering your question about getting food during the day , Subway at Shahra-e- Faisal told me that they do deliver during the day but are not open for dine in

  11. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on September 26th, 2006 @ 12:15 pm

    Cy ever heard about Good Friday and Shabbat ?

  12. Da-Man (unregistered) on September 26th, 2006 @ 4:52 pm

    Excuse me, but some people cannot fast due to medical reasons. If Islam does not impose a fast on them who are you to do it? Islam also does not impose a fast on non-muslims living in a muslim country.

    I can’t believe how the followers of such a tolerant religion have become to intolerant.

    Good post CY.

  13. kidal (unregistered) on September 26th, 2006 @ 5:01 pm

    No one is forcing anyone to do anything. You can still eat. So restaurants are not open until afternoon. Big deal. It’s a minor inconvenience at best. As minorities, these things are expected.

    As Muslims living in the West we too have numerous inconveniences, like the non-availability of halal meat. We don’t go complaining to the government or the major supermarkets.

  14. yo yo (unregistered) on September 26th, 2006 @ 6:19 pm

    Food stalls close during the day because they have no business.
    Cy..donot make it sound like the goverment is clamping down on monorities. There is more food than ever during ramadhan. People actually end up getting fatter.

  15. Kashif (unregistered) on September 26th, 2006 @ 6:22 pm

    I have suddenly got so many patients and sick people in my office, since last couple of days ;)

  16. Extiinct (unregistered) on September 26th, 2006 @ 7:11 pm

    I am appalled at the insensitivity that is reflected here!

    Minorities are an integral part of any country. Just because their problems are not yours does not mean that their problems do not exist or are not related to this city.

  17. Captain's Log (unregistered) on September 26th, 2006 @ 8:40 pm

    First of all, let me clear that no one is imposing any one to fast. It’s just the repect of ramadan that food stalls are closed. It’s just like that you would not play music in mosques.

    Regarding medical patients, all medical stores are open and I am sure they give good to patients in hospitals even in ramadan, they don’t deny food so that is a lame excuse.

    Da-Man its not about tolerance, it’s about wrong reporting.I live abroad so I have to answer every wrong stupid report coming out from Pakistan.

    Extiinct , Insensitivity of us or CY ??? Do you really think it’s a problem. The problem with you is that you do not live in real world. Come out and see the world.

    Any how let me apologize too if I have hurt any one.I did not intend to.

  18. Daym (unregistered) on September 26th, 2006 @ 11:05 pm

    Cy, feel sympathetic to you (and ashamed to a certain extent), but its not a big deal. I dont live in karachi, and can imagine that all restaurants must be shut. But its an interesting question, is anything at all open? If not, im returning and opening up a restaurant that will be open throughout ramzan, theres my niche business idea ive been thinking of for such a long while!

    Will be interesting to know what non-muslims actually do, those who work, for lunch

  19. KhiTorPit (unregistered) on September 26th, 2006 @ 11:53 pm

    There is no such restrictions in Pakistan whatsoever. Infact now its more Enlightened and moderate.

    Captain’s Log I am with you. You are absolutely right.

  20. Extiinct (unregistered) on September 27th, 2006 @ 5:51 am

    Im surprised how someone’s cynical way of writing can be termed insensitive and yet the readers fail to see the insensitivity that is reflected in their attitude towards non muslims.

    I am appalled at the opinion that seems to prevail in the comments. Less than 60 years ago we were a minority ourselves.

  21. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on September 27th, 2006 @ 9:08 am

    Extinct WHAT problems are you talking about? How many christians,hindus,parsis etc have died in Ramadan due to absence of food in day timings? You are one of those psuedo intellectuals who always think and talk baseless things. Do you want to say that we muslims can’t get anything from thousands of bakeries and shops? Heck, one person in my office building bought PAANI PURI around 3:00pm from Burns Road. Giving a lecture is good thing but it should hold some facts. Only resturants are closed and it’s becase of lack of business as YoYo mentioned. Kid you really surprised me.

    I wouldn’t blame Cy, When a supreme religious leader behaves like an ignorant towards other religion by ignoring bunch of deuteronomy’s verses about Fighting in name of God then one could expect any thing from the followers.

    Cy you and your buddies out of Pakistan would have read that Wiki link about Good Friday. Better take a look at home rather writing something about others. If you are so restless then why don’t you go back to Oxford?

  22. Kashif (unregistered) on September 27th, 2006 @ 9:31 am

    I have spent some time in england and havent seen any non-muslim ‘respecting’ ramadan. It was quite difficult dodging people in lunch breaks who fail to understand about fasting.

  23. Adnan (unregistered) on September 27th, 2006 @ 9:43 am

    And kashif I assume that most of them would be Bible followers too who were also ordered for fasting by Jesus? I don’t understand why ‘fasting’ is considered an Islamic invention.

  24. Sa'ad (unregistered) on September 27th, 2006 @ 10:00 am

    Captain nay farmaya: “When one sees other eating then satan pursuades him not to fast.”

    I would urge that certain “one” to work on strengthening his weak faith if he can be persuaded so easily to break out of his fast upon seeing food. Brothers, have a slightly bigger mental age than a 7yr old child. Kids do this sort of stuff, seeing elders eat they want to join in too. Stop imposing or even expecting others to observe your beliefs no matter how pure and good they are. The argument that PK is a Muslim country so we must enforce it on others our rules IS unfair to minorities. They too are citizen of Pakistan and hence deserve every bit of equality that the land has to offer. Instead of creating a positive image of Islam we are helping to create this tough silly version where we are not tolerant of others and are bickering over silly things like morons.

    @ Adnan Siddiqi: Nice. Judge the entire faith by the ignorance of one man.

    @ Extiinct: Right on! We need to let go of this holier than thou attitude and take lesson from our own history.

  25. Adnan (unregistered) on September 27th, 2006 @ 10:09 am

    Sa’ad, NOT faith but believers of the faith.

    Stop imposing or even expecting others to observe your beliefs no matter how pure and good they are.

    Roza lag raha hay? WHo was imposing? The central idea of the post was that one can’t get food stuff in ramadan which is a plain lie present by Cy.

  26. Adnan Mansoor (unregistered) on September 27th, 2006 @ 11:07 am

    Nice argumnets by KIDAL, ADNAN and Captain’s Log. I really feel sorry for CY mis-interpretation of facts in this post. It really seeams that we are talking about any other city but Karachi, in this matter.

  27. Jamal Shamsi (unregistered) on September 27th, 2006 @ 1:37 pm

    The post from Murtaza is wrong.

    None of the GCC countries force to fast for muslims or non-muslims.

    To fast or not to fast is INDIVIDUALs’ faith. But that individual is not allowed to HURT the majority who are not of his / her faith.

    Through the newspapers and community circulars non-muslims are requested to respect and honour the religion of neighbors, work colleagues and community they live in.

    operational hours have changed so does the timings of places, but there is nothing as such FORCED TO FAST or beating in public. It is untrue and wrong.

    All eatries are open after-noon till Saher

  28. Cy (unregistered) on September 27th, 2006 @ 9:55 pm

    It seems ignorance is largely the order of the day here. Restaurants close in the day because it is ILLEGAL to serve food, not because they don’t have customers. If they really don’t have customers, then overturn the legislation and let the market decide.

    Also I’m astonished that so many people here think that the majority of the people who don’t fast belong to non-muslim households. Think about it for a second – when 96.8% of the population is labelled muslim, do you really think all those eligible are fasting? Or that the non-fasters are fewer than the 3.2% that is labelled non-muslim? Give me a break.

  29. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on September 27th, 2006 @ 11:50 pm

    Comeon man you gave the impression that minorities of this city face tough time to get eating stuff during fasting hours which is not correct. Whether someone is at home or at office can easily fetch things from any part of the city. You are just making issue of it for no reason. In other words you are whining for no reason. Such restrictions are not only for Pakistan or for an Islamic state. From Wiki link for Good Friday

    The Republic of Ireland, a predominantly Catholic country, prohibits all alcohol from being sold on Good Friday. Almost all pubs and many restaurants in Ireland close for the duration of the day

    Shopping Hours

    The world is very different from your imaginary world.

  30. Captain's Log (unregistered) on September 28th, 2006 @ 9:10 am

    Sa’ad , you are lame. I never said that when one sees other people eating then he breaks the fast. I said that when people around you are not fasting and eating then you tend to think that if I do not fast then it would be okay.

  31. I-Hate-Burger-Bacchay (unregistered) on October 2nd, 2006 @ 10:27 am

    What propaganda…

    If you want to go eat, go to a grocery store and get something beforehand.

    When I want to eat at 12 am after Taraaweeh in America – do I expect white people to keep their stores open for me? No. Infact there are municipal laws governing what time people may or may not operate their businesses FOR THE HEALTH OF THE POPULATION!

    That’s not to say we should compare ourselves to the West on this account, but if hypothetically they overturned this so-called law (like anyone really obeys laws in Karachi?) – and you had a few people deciding about opening their shops – I seriously doubt people are going to run their shops as business is so slow that they would rather sleep and open up later at night and focus on making more money.

    Really lame post… This seems more anti-religion than anything else. Are you a GRAMMAR BURGER or something who believes in being entitled to everything and doesn’t have to answer to anyone hence anything related with religion is horrible for you?

  32. Omar R. Quraishi (unregistered) on October 3rd, 2006 @ 4:35 pm

    this post shows the level of intolerance in pakistan — shocking

  33. Original-Anon (unregistered) on October 3rd, 2006 @ 4:52 pm

    To me the point of this post was that the state is forcing people to abide by the rules of religion. Let me remind you all that true religious freedom is possible only in a secular state where people are free to practice any and whatever religion they choose and minorities don’t have to be thankful for ‘being protected’ by the bitterati wearing their hatred on their sleeves.The intolerance, the prejudices, the self righteousness shown in most of these comments is really sad and shocking.

  34. Abdul Sami (unregistered) on October 3rd, 2006 @ 7:08 pm

    Tastefully Terrific Student Biryani is available at Nursery right during the noon. Go take some!

  35. Cy (unregistered) on October 3rd, 2006 @ 8:41 pm

    Omar, original-anon and the others: when did our city die and get taken over by bigots?

  36. Omar R. Quraishi (unregistered) on October 4th, 2006 @ 2:32 pm

    i dont know — when i meant ‘this post’ i actually was referring to the response to the post — which shows the level of intolerance — when that happened is a long debate

  37. I-HATE-BURGER-BACCHAY (unregistered) on October 7th, 2006 @ 9:23 am

    To the burger boy “Original-Anon”

    Secularism is also a religion. There are secular fundamentalists who deny people their ability to practice their religion the way they want. This is apparent in America, Turkey, etc. where if you want to be powerful and have influence, abandoning religion, becoming a drunk, and acting like one of the good old boy’s is key.

    I’m sorry secular fundamentalists like you are so intolerant they cannot see the fact that their own extremist ideology of no religion is also a cult in itself with its own forms of classism, ethnicism, racism, and parochialism.

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