Excellent Decision ?

After a long time the cricket board (its tribunal to be specific) seems to have made a wise and brave decision. According to initial reports coming right now on different channels the said players Shoaib & Asif failed to prove their innocence. Furthermore it is interesting to note that they took the banned medicine 8 times, in quantity than normal. So there is no doubt now that they did it deliberately as if we for a moment do believe that it was mistakenly taken then how on earth they took the quantity eight times than the normal one. Asif & Shoaib acted too childishly to dodge the nation. More interestingly Shoaib had been trained few times about such substances & therefore has been banned for two years & Asif due to non participation of such trainings has been banned for one year only.
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We sure are happy to loose matches with a sincere team than a bunch of money hungry souls who know how to perform stunts in TV commercials but have no clue of banned medicine. In near future it will be a great set back for Pakistan team but in long run this will set an excellent example for those who have any DNA in them which goes the way of dishonesty with the team & country. For many years now the man on whom we spend million rupees alone discredited his country with such an act deserves no sympathy, Shoaib in this case and also the fact that he was quite senior to Asif. What on earth the PCB did not do to please Shoaib & spend lacks on his fitness. At one time he was even given a separate doctor to make sure he remains fits.

Given the fact that Shoaib, for reasons I don’t know is known as blue eyed boy of high ups may file a case against this decision in coming days and may eventually come alive of a back door diplomacy but I strongly believe that this decision, though a harsh one for us but should be maintained.
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35 Comments so far

  1. IllusionFS (unregistered) on November 1st, 2006 @ 9:33 pm

    MB: I am not a big sports person, but I have heard it from a lot of people that most of the sportsman use performance drugs. Kher, I still back Shoaib Akhtar and would want him to come back because without Shoaib/Afridi/Inzamam there is no fun watching even a single inning.


  2. MB (unregistered) on November 1st, 2006 @ 9:38 pm

    He used to be one my fav. too dear. But dishonesty can not be tolerated against performance. By the way, Razzak won more matches than Shoaib I guess. And there needs to be a lesson for others as well.

    I am sorry but i dont want him back. I hope the final decision remains the same.


  3. Haseeb A (unregistered) on November 1st, 2006 @ 9:48 pm

    Puri pakistani cricktet sucks. I have stopped watching cricket long time ago! Waste of time. Watch football instead :) much healthier and time saving.
    her koi sattay baaz hay, juwari hay ya phir abh nashai hay ;)
    more than 50% of our matches are fixed, especially Pak India.
    Aik zamanay main habib bank kay president used to tell my uncle, “Yaar, aaj match na dekhna, wasim bhai kay account may kafu transfer howa hay!”.
    Koi paak nahi. Miandad, Salim Malik, Wasim, Waqar, and ANY name you can think of!


  4. Kaash (unregistered) on November 1st, 2006 @ 9:56 pm

    Now Shoaib may reconsider Mahesh Bhatt’s offer to act in his film :)J/K but its definately a huge loss for out team regardless of thier dishonesty. I dont see a remote possibility for Pakistani team to even survive the pre phase of World Cup 2007.


  5. ASAD (unregistered) on November 1st, 2006 @ 10:16 pm

    ye sab drama hai. Dubara ajaaingay saray


  6. Keep Walking! (unregistered) on November 1st, 2006 @ 11:06 pm

    Roger Federer & Maria Sharapova!


  7. Adnan V (unregistered) on November 1st, 2006 @ 11:30 pm

    stop saying that matches are fixed !!!


  8. Adnan K (unregistered) on November 2nd, 2006 @ 12:35 am

    Man some of you guys on this board are seriously disillusioned!

    How many of you wanna bet that we will definitely seen Shoaib back in action, not on the cricket field, on the movie scene soon. This is his time to capitalise on those other pursuits that he has been looking into as a post cricket career move. I think post cricket for him starts today. Sad that we will lose a genuine fast bowler in todays era of a batsmen friendly game in such an unceremonious way. I do hope that Asif is able to learn and come out of the year that he will be away from the game.

    The world cup is going to suck for us :(


  9. MB (unregistered) on November 2nd, 2006 @ 12:47 am

    “I don’t see a remote possibility for Pakistani team to even survive the pre phase of World Cup 2007”

    It’s good that at least we know quite advance that we wont be without dishonest players. It’s better to loose in WORLD CUP then win it with losers.

    And by the way i still think if Paki team play with some “gairat” and little more BRAIN they can do well in WORLD CUP. I bet they do.


  10. Captain's Log (unregistered) on November 2nd, 2006 @ 8:12 am

    Sorry MB, I have to stop you. I am not sure that you understand the concept of “ghairat”. Did you forget those days when you were banned from posting here and every one here used to make a big fun of you. If you had “ghairat”, you would have never posted here again by your definition of “ghairat”.

    By the way have you ever been to any position that needs passion, the position that comes with expectations of people. I am sure you have not other wise you would not have posted such stupid post.

    First of all, let me assure you that what ever Shoaib/Asif did , it was wrong but you just can not blame them for all and kill the career of Shaoib over that. You have to give them chance. Two years ban is too much for Shaoib. The guy spent all his youth on specializing a skill and after some small mistake, you are finishing his career. Yah small mistake because drugs do not help much in cricket, it’s not bicycling. Cricket is a game of skills. Last year Shoaib was injured and due to illadvices , he tooks some substances that were not allowed. Even if he knew that he was taking false substances, he did not realize the consequences of that(We do not have any such history in Pakistan sports). Shoaib appeared in 2003 and 2004 for doping and he was cleared at both times so it is not like that he was always taking those and remember that he has been always fast. Point is he just took medicines to heal his injury in fast time. When he was injured earlier, every one was like that when he is getting ready? When he would be back, He did studpid mistake to meet expectations of us and he is now suffering and people like you are cursing him. We should support him and we should all together put request to PCB to decrease his ban for a year. Shoaib has been great player[I do not care for his off field activities] and has given us lot of joys. This time, he needs our help so instead of blaming, we should give him hand.

    You true are jerk and do not understand human psychology. Shoaib is a super star and every star has attitude problem. He is not an ordinary man so stop treating him like ordinary man.Couple of years go when he was in Australia, every one was blaming that he is not playing and he is doing party and PCB held some tribunal enquiry which cleared him after seeing his MRI scan. We all thought that he was faking injury. We have given him so much pains, imgaine how he would have felt that time when every one was questioning his integrity. He is a sepcial human, not any one in universe bowls at 100 MPH so his body has special needs. He once said he dreams of a day when he could bowl w/o any pain(just try to imagine his heart). All these years, he has given us so much so I believe , it’s time to payback.

    Shoaib, we are sorry for you and we hope that you would come out good of this. Thank you for all the joys you gave us in last 10 years.

    And MB if you reply any thing stupid then I am gonna blast you. DO NOT try to teach me any thing you “Mawwali Badmash”. You have no symapthy for people who are suffering and who have lost their careers.


  11. RAZA (unregistered) on November 2nd, 2006 @ 8:44 am

    Oh my God, captain just hit on the most sensitive organ of MB by reminding his banning days :-)

    MB agar tujhay zara bhe ghairat hay tu naity gaty[spell??] se chalang lagakar khudkushi karlay


  12. Abdul Sami (unregistered) on November 2nd, 2006 @ 9:25 am

    @RAZA: its Native Jetty


  13. Haseeb A (unregistered) on November 2nd, 2006 @ 9:49 am

    Yeh sari story mujhay kioun nahi pata?

    MB: Pls before jumping off, gift me your iPOD. I am in serious need of one. Chalo, paisay lay laina yaar, it’ll be the last thing u sell :)

    @Captian log: I think its jazbati and ignorant ppl like u who trust in such badmaash log. Sab bakwas hay, sab ko pata hota hay. Match Fix bhi yahi log kertay hay. Maheenay kay 5lakhs + is liya nahi miltay kay jiss tarah marzi marwain pakistan ki! Hope shoaib never comes back


  14. MB (unregistered) on November 2nd, 2006 @ 9:57 am

    Dear Captain’s Log:-

    Though I am not sure if you have anything technical to say about cricket or not but since you have a habit of bashing so I won’t reply to personal remarks, as they are not worth it.

    The ghairat thingy was for the team to get some clue from teams like West Indies & learn to lose by putting on a fight rather by humiliation. And we all kown what I want to convey here. And it’s been some time now since our unpredictability has touched new heights. The WI-ians don’t have super stars (except Brain Lara & a bit credible Chaderpaul & Sarwan ) but just look at the way they have played their three matches. And I am not mentioning their win here.

    Now to the ban case:
    I guess your statement “and every star has attitude problem “pretty much shows why you act in similar tone. But I would like you to read the famous Corporate lessons from Australian cricket team twice a day early morning & at night so you may know that great players & super stars are the ones who don’t have an attitude problem. Throwing the ball at 100 mph & resisting the temptation of deception are two independent things dear. And the later is more difficult. And though I guess you did not bother to read the post clearly but I did call him a hero & fav. too. So before wasting so much energy at least read things properly.

    No mater how great a player becomes & even if he reaches the status of super star, once he is tempted and acted like a dishonest soul all his efforts do go down the drain. And super stars don’t get failed in integrity tests. A soldier, who has served army for 30 years, when he is a very senior rank officer now, due to his all previous services, one day acts dishonestly, just once, due to any reasons, in a crucial battle. Will you treat him as a traitor or hero ?. We won’t be surprised if you choose later option. Shoaib was given training sessions on drugs. Had been in international cricket for some time and had also previous tests related to drugs & knew what is allowed and what is not and the most amazing, how on earth he “mistakenly” took the medicine in such a large quantity. Open you eyes brother instead of bashing out senselessly.

    Its is exactly the problem with people like you who make these players icons and take them to heights where they forget that they have been respected, loved and even worshiped ( in football’s case ) for their dedication and hard work for the country and its team. So please do read that article and do read why Australian Cricket has such strong roots and why they keep on conquering (apart from the occasional upsets once in many years). And you did not seem interested in Asif, why?. As I said, because you have not given him an iconic status yet.

    I would love to see Shoaib back if he admits and doesn’t repeat the mistake & same goes with Asif. And yes we do have a right to blame if he makes such serious mistakes. He, after all, like all humans, is not above law.

    And as for your statement “And MB if you reply any thing stupid then I am gonna blast you. DO NOT try to teach me any thing you “Mawwali Badmash”

    All I can say is thanks for proving my point that I mentioned earlier on. Please be careful about your tone as it makes you exposed. I would rather have others have a good opinion about you.


  15. Kashif (unregistered) on November 2nd, 2006 @ 10:02 am

    According to the official statement, Asif is banned for one year as he “innocently” took food supplements that had the banned ingredients in it but stopped taking it when told by the team phsyio. Also, he has not participated in any orientation sessions held by the PCB so he was unaware about the drugs and all.

    Today there is a statement by ICC that PCB has selected wrong time to do the test and ICC has specifically told the boards not to conduct such tests before any major sporting event. This, in itself, shows that either PCB and team management were unaware of that rule, or there is something fishy going around.

    Also, if Asif was unaware of the drug and has stopped using it when he was told about it, there is no sense of applying ban on him.

    I believe that cricket matters are politcized by current chairman who is trying to show that he is the boss. This will definitely degrade the performance especially with world cup on our heads.


  16. MB (unregistered) on November 2nd, 2006 @ 10:06 am

    @RAZA :-
    Thanks GOD, and TM or UMAR can confirm too, neva got banned eva. Kis dunia mai rehtay ho bai aap.


  17. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on November 2nd, 2006 @ 10:41 am

    *shakes head*, yes, great guys like Dennis Lillie, Warne are not australians.

    On a related note, intresting sledging stuff for cricket lovers, specially between Merv Hughes v Javed Miandad =)


  18. MB (unregistered) on November 2nd, 2006 @ 11:05 am

    “fat bus conductor”

    hahahah….


  19. carebear (unregistered) on November 2nd, 2006 @ 11:18 am

    The Shoaib-Asif saga is nothing but pure drama…it is only to please the ICC and foreign media that PCB is brave enough and wont tolerate any hanky-panky in the team, as if there was nothing going on behind the scenes. Pakistan cricket, like the country has gone to dogs and we need more than a messiah to save the country and the cricket from the fast happening decay.

    I can bet my life on the return of Shoaib and Asif…very soon there would be an appeal in some kangaroo court of justice, with a 24 man inquiry committee setup, these two drugsters would be exonerated and given a clean bill to return and play havoc with the team and emotions of millions who idolize them. So fans of Shoaib and Asif keep your fingers crossed, they would be back really soon, and if all goes as planned, you’d see them performing stunts in the Pak-West Indies series.


  20. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on November 2nd, 2006 @ 11:23 am

    I forgot to quote the following para in my last post


    “Corporate lessons from Australian cricket team” twice a day early morning & at night so you may know that great players & super stars are the ones who don’t have an attitude problem.

    and from my last post,


    yes, great guys like Dennis Lillie, Warne are not australians.

    HIH


  21. MB (unregistered) on November 2nd, 2006 @ 11:33 am

    The point which is being stressed is “honesty with ones own country”. The attitude of forgetting personal gains for the team & remaining honest with it. Not that since the nation has made you an idol; you think yourself above the bond of trust and break it when it suits you. So do read it & get inspiration, specially the personal ego thingy:

    In his autobiography, Mark Taylor describes his amazement at how much criticism he received from Indians and Pakistanis for declaring when he had scored 334 not out and had the world record of 375 at his feet. In his mind, it was a simple decision: declaring then would have given Australia the best chance of winning that match. The Australian team embodies the motto that the individual is lesser than the team. Thus, while individual performances are celebrated, no one player is permitted to become a superstar. They have no star like Brian Lara or Sachin Tendulkar. And, yet, Sunil Gavaskar has said that Waugh is the best batsman playing today because he is more reliable in tough situations. In Test cricket, while Tendulkar has rarely been a match winner, Waugh has often been one. But where’s the hype surrounding Waugh?

    @carebear:-

    Lets pray that Shoaib & Asif be back and do not repeat the mistake, if the final decision,later on does prove that an apology is due on them.


  22. Kashif (unregistered) on November 2nd, 2006 @ 11:43 am

    my comments eaten?


  23. MB (unregistered) on November 2nd, 2006 @ 11:47 am

    Not that I am aware of. Send again Kashif. May be its connection. Me, myself find it hard to post & moderate due to slow connection at times. You already have one i guess. One good practice is to save it. Thanks


  24. ChampooNath GHOSLEY (unregistered) on November 2nd, 2006 @ 11:54 am

    MB tu waqi me mawali admi hay. Dhakkan jo likkha kar tu uska defend bhe karna seekh. Tu attitude ki baat karaha thaa,Aastraliyan crikters dunya me sab se zyda batameez ,ignorant mashoor hain. Sahe hey k jab lillie khelta tha tu uswaqt naiker me ghomta hoga but u can read some frigging news resourcs to know further about these players. Warne ne W*ore kah kar konsi watan se honesty dekhai hay? batao?

    mujhe lagta hay k tujhe mohallay k londay 3rd man per khara kartay hongay takay tu bhag bhag kar gaind laya kar.

    Chal aa tujhe lalukhair se Laqa kabootar ki jodi dilaoun, tu sirf chat par khara hokar kabootar he ura sakta hay


  25. MB (unregistered) on November 2nd, 2006 @ 12:18 pm

    Bhains ke aagay kia been bajaai koi. Yes, he was wrong too. Simple!. Where that article puts Australian players as some special creatures without sins ?

    As few mentioned and me too (in title’s last para ) that this may all end up as drama. But had this been Australia, the culprits, if found guilty would be punished accordingly.


  26. Adnan V (unregistered) on November 2nd, 2006 @ 2:37 pm

    it was in the news that asif is planning to appeal against the decision (soo is shoaib)
    ……..heared this on gei !!

    @ Champo: WAPIS SEY KABOOTAAR !!!!


  27. MB (unregistered) on November 2nd, 2006 @ 9:14 pm

    The block heads should see what the great Sadiq Mohammad & Qamar had to say about this episode on CNBC Pakistan. They were talking exactly the same thing that though it’s harsh that Shoaib & Asif were banned but its absolutely the right thing to do & to give others a lesson that is over due now. And whether this turns out to be a drama, that’s a separate issue.

    On a Separate note, WI reached the final. Wow I wish they beat the Aussies & win the cup. Paki players should start thinking about why the heck they, even with so many good players of international caliber couldn’t reach the finals. The reason is obvious to all.


  28. Kashif (unregistered) on November 2nd, 2006 @ 9:35 pm

    Gayle, Sarwan, Chanderpaul and Lara will make a bhurta of lame pakistani bowling, and their bowlers will give a hard time to inzi and company unless we make dead wickets where even younis khan can score a double century


  29. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on November 3rd, 2006 @ 10:37 am

    MB, there is no need to think. They didn’t play well thats it and this is not the first time. We were defeated by Bangladesh, then lost final of Worldcup twice.

    By the way, is Imran Khan a great player in your dictionary or not? He also had attitude problem. Who is Qamar?


  30. Adnan Mansoor (unregistered) on November 3rd, 2006 @ 10:59 am

    @ Haseeb: Looks like that you are still waiting on the bridge for iPOD deal. Don’t bargain for much, b’coz a man’s last deed could be very difficult to contemplate.


  31. MB (unregistered) on November 3rd, 2006 @ 3:41 pm

    @ADNAN :-
    ” then lost final of Worldcup twice. ” ??

    Adnan though we know you have some problems with facts & figures but this is too much. When did the second time Pakistan lost the final? Had you mentioned it in numeric we would understand there is a typo issue but still, what resources you generally use to gather information. Just a question of general interest.


  32. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on November 3rd, 2006 @ 5:15 pm

    MB that was certainly my mistake, I was including 87 reliance cup semi final as Final.


    Adnan though we know you have some problems with facts & figures

    that’s your childish way to attack but would yo bother to give proof when i gave wrong facts and figures before? yes do comeup with references otherwise don’t make such attempts again

    Unlike you, i admit my mistakes. I dont appear arrogant and ignorant like you to follow someone blindly without making a single shitty read about something. I googled about WC finals and found the correct figures. So do analyze yourself before making attempt to comment about others.


  33. Abdul Sami (unregistered) on November 4th, 2006 @ 11:45 am

    Adnan. This explanation is further weakening ur position only. U rush into replies n then use Google to make corrections. Nice way.


  34. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on November 4th, 2006 @ 12:43 pm

    sami, i don’t care of position anyway. I am honest that i admitted a mistake. He claimed i always give wrong facts and figures then he should provide some proof otherwise shouldn’t bother himself to make such claims and No i used google first time , my other posts didn’t require any external source or you better go thru archieve of this site yourself and refute me.


  35. MB (unregistered) on November 6th, 2006 @ 12:29 pm

    Abdul you got the point didn’t you?

    Anyways I hope and pray that both bowlers be back in action and we pray that the accusations turn out to be wrong in the end but if, and its a BIG IF, its proved that they have done something wrong deliberately, I would rather have them kick out for ever but as I am neither MUSHARRAF nor ICC myself so, as per law the current ban should be held up.

    No one can deny the great contributions by the bowlers but loosing the path of honesty with a nation which gave so much love and respect make them both being looked upon as simple “mujrims” and nothing else. And besides we do need to show youngsters that they better get any wrong doing out of their diaries.



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