Karachi – Dubai ‘A Cruise to Hell’

Shattered Dreams aboard Gulf Dream CruiseTo follow up on my initial report of the Karachi – Dubai Cruise liner which I posted a week back practically a day before it set sail for its first maiden voyage from Karachi to Dubai. The ship left the berth with the cruise management and Geo.TV (Jang) promoters literally patting themselves on the back for this remarkable feat.

During the five days on the sea, no news filtered through from any of the passengers but upon its return, I amongst many, were surprised of a strange hushed silence on Geo which should have been prancing with joy, it seemed to suggest that something was amiss. Little do these old-school media moguls realize the power of the Internet especially with the emerging concept of Citizen Journalism (blogging) where individuals can speak out and be heard, no more hidden agenda, no more governmental control, its the time of being brave to speak out, this is the true power of Citizen Journalism, commonly referred to as blogging.

A concerned individual ‘Tanveer’ chooses to speak out and I sincerely hope his voice is heard far and wide, enough to warn people so as not to take the trip to Dubai aboard the ‘Hell [Dream] Cruise Liner’. I quote here the email in its entirety.

My brother in law along with his family took that maiden voyage of so called “Dream” cruise. The journey started on 07/11/06 and the ACs were not working since the time the cruise left birth at Karachi port, as per the information I have the cruise reached back Karachi in same condition. The cruised reach Dubai, with delay of 12 hours and visas were not arranged by the cruise liner’s management in time, more that 150 passengers were not allowed to put their step on UAE’s soil.

To begin with, the allocation of cabins were total messed up many many passengers were not provided the cabins they opted & paid for. There was a newly wed Pakistani-American couple on board. The groom left the whole world to take the cruise out of patriotism or love of land. They were promised by the management that a suite with view of sea and sun deck will be provided, flower bouquet will await at port of departure & destination along with a limo, but they were only given a cabin and lower deck and as expected the management denied any promise regarding limo & bouquet, once they were on board, last but not least the bride’s visa got rejected as her name was listed on the passengers manifest handed over to Port Saeed’s Immigration authorities.

Further. cruise management had also arranged ladies for entertainment of guest from Russia, Azerbaijan, Philippines, China and of course LAHORE. the mujras were performed all night in name of dance parties / disco. I haven’t been to European / American cruise lines, but have spent couple of days on Star – Virgo during my trip to Singapore, they also provide such “facilities”, but in very discretely. I have been told that people who were half drunk, were even misbehaving at the time of serving breakfast at 10 am and were loudly discussing their experiences with Russian last night. mind you there were families present in the restaurant for breakfast.

The broadband Internet, Casino and GYM facilities were also advertised but none was provided, as full dues were not paid to the ship chartered company.

Half of the leisure staff, including ladies in spa, waitresses and house keeping guys were not able to speak fluent English, let along Urdu. Porters were not arranged at Dubai, the passengers were left with option to take their luggage through a thin gangplank, as the cruise parked at a cargo birth.

The swimming pool was filled with sea water, by the way, no one took a swim during the voyage to Dubai. Mr. Mohiuddin the front man for this operation was also on board and was threatening some of the the drunk tourist of serious consequences once they arrive at Karachi port

The cruise liner is a joint venture of Geo TV’s Managing Director & Mr. Babur Ghouri MQM Minister for Ports & Shipping, while Mr. Moinuddin is simply the front man for this operation. Personally I feel it could be a major set back provided some serious damage control is made to set things straight before the remaining sailing dates go to waste due to a dearth of passengers as I doubt anyone would want to be at the receiving end of a shady deal.

Until then all future cruise faring passengers must be forewarned. It would also be interesting to hear more reports from other passengers as to the conditions of the first maiden voyage of the Gulf Dream Cruise Liner

91 Comments so far

  1. d0ct0r (unregistered) on November 16th, 2006 @ 3:01 pm

    @karachiite Can you elaborate on your comment abit?

  2. ITarian (unregistered) on November 16th, 2006 @ 4:50 pm

    Shame Shame We pakistanis have yet again proved to be a shameful and Gandi zehniyat rakhnay walay loog. (Ofcource Not all of us Atleast there are some good people left )
    Secondly dear all who say that its just first tiem ! What anyone can imagine for next times if so much happened at first tiem.
    Sincerely speaking would these guys humbly like to take their wives, sisters, mothers, daughters on such cruises ??????
    If you still say YES then I have nothing to say more.
    In the last but not the least about BG guy. os Qoom kay loogoon ko kia kehna jis qoom kay leaders are like him. By the way we ourselves have choosen these leaders and are very much delighted on their win glow Gharaghs, fire crackers and dance on their victory

  3. karachite (unregistered) on November 16th, 2006 @ 6:01 pm

    hey Doc, SOWWYYY :$.
    i thought you censored my comments in some of your posts some time back..


  4. tanya (unregistered) on November 16th, 2006 @ 8:30 pm

    I just dont understand hum sab ko khayal kyon nahi ata.Itna bura haal hai pakistanis ka Y arent we scared of the azaab of Allah which is always coming in one or the other ways in our lives.Just imagine aaj raat he tsuanmi hit ker jaye (JO k Allah na karey)so R we all ready to face Allah.R we all going to wake up the next morning.
    (Oh Iam sorry Allah has promised muslims to send them to paradise;))hehehhe
    U know some thing guys we all are jahil,ganwaars we think modernization is dancing,drinking, driving cars with the fastest speed on the roads,parents going out for kitty parties leaving their children on their own,eating the ladoo of english,spending thousands of rupees in schools where their children are growing up to be the worlds best drug addicts and show off’s.

    We think we do all ths and become a part of the world and laugh with it but the truth is the world laughs at us and we keep standing like dumbs.
    dhobi ka kuta na gher ka na ghat ka.

  5. Sajid (unregistered) on November 17th, 2006 @ 12:25 am

    Welll PPL should know that its an cruise from pakistan and clubs n alcohol is allowed , wat i mean to say is better not take ur famlies …. ITS BACHELOR PARTIES NIGHTS !!!!!

    well every1 has the bad experiences , might be u were the 3 or 4 guys from 450 passengers …….

  6. Sukz (unregistered) on November 17th, 2006 @ 1:25 am

    hahahaha!!!!! this is Pakistan and stuff like this happens only in Pakistan… take a chill pill…asa stuff na ho yahan pe to Pakistan Pakistan nahi khalaiga….

  7. Saier (unregistered) on November 17th, 2006 @ 9:21 am

    I think Altaf Bhai must have to include this Cruise and its pros and cons in his next “FICKRI NISHIST”.

  8. Faisal Shamim (unregistered) on November 17th, 2006 @ 10:05 am

    Its good that you’ve brought it into the notice of so many people and I’m sure these voices would be heard by the concerned quarters and since there’s always a room for improvement, this industry would, and must grow in Pakistan and the voice of the people should be heard and corrective measures and actions must be taken without taking people for granted anymore.

  9. Bilal Warsi (unregistered) on November 17th, 2006 @ 10:19 am

    I would like to address on these mujras. Managemnt should realize we are an islamic country and allowing these typ of activites in terms of entetainment will make the cruise as a centre of erotic activites and families will not prefer to have this kind of journey. If they want to make it successfull, they must eradicate these types of things so everybody can go and enjoy.

  10. abbasii (unregistered) on November 17th, 2006 @ 10:53 am

    I wonder what Geo TV has to say about it. Anyone interested in callin up ‘Bolain kya baat hai’ or any other live tv show and highlighting this issue? I guess Geo competitors would be more than happy to talk bout it

  11. PAKI (unregistered) on November 17th, 2006 @ 2:56 pm

    What to say for management and government here, we all know their history and present, murderers and looters.

  12. Ammar Zaidi (unregistered) on November 17th, 2006 @ 5:02 pm


    no one is dieing of stravation in our country??? hahaha… yea they are not.. but 200,000 kids under the age of 10 die in this country because of contaminated water. U.N. report…

    so its the same thing….

    anyway.. true we are a developing nation (so to speak… as i see a lotta roads being made, but the people are still suffering from the same shit that has been going on since 50 years, & still going on). the cruise is a good start, i agree that one can expect certain problems in the first trip.. but not the kinda problems that are mentioned here… how can it depart without the a/c’s working??? or atleast give the people what they paid for?? the rooms the deck etc??? what about that…

    anyway.. good luck to the crew / management, hopefully this will get better…

  13. tanya (unregistered) on November 18th, 2006 @ 5:53 am

    i am saddened by the low mentality of our people…this is a first hand experience.i was on the cruise with my husband and my friends.its so sad to c that most of these people who pasted their comments on this page must have done alot more things in their lives that they wouldnt be proud of, or are ethically wrong …but these very people were so quick to point fingers at a very innocent attempt of somebody tryin to bring pakistan into the bigger picture..i will not name sources but may i tell u all, that this was indeed a very pure and innocent attempt by a pakistani, who has lived abroad most of his life, and whos wife and sisters were on the cruise themselves..
    to spread rumours like these are not just vicious but also very harmful to the very image of our country which is still developing in every way. this my dears is a part of that development…nothing takes place overnight. one the cruise went brilliantly well.yes, there was a delay.but thats because the permission to sail came in later than expected. yes the ac’s were off, but thats because the water was so dirty that the suctions of that ship were blocked.it took the management an entire day to clean that up.no, the ac’s were NOT switched off through out the trip, as i know myself. no , the cabins were not mixed up.yes , there were people who had paid for a regular cabin but upon arrival, demanded a suite.i am a witness to how some of our so called ‘elite’ crowd treated the lady receptionist, who was almost in tears coz of their attitudes.yes, the waitresses were foreigners, but what else did u expect from a foreign cruise. they possibly couldnt have hired anyone from our “pious” land. besides anyone who has ever lived or even been abroad knows that this is a more than common sight there. i didnt realize that they also had to provide their clients with “desi-urdu speakin waitresses”. the casino was open to all, except underage customers.the health facilities were provided all day, i know as i went to the gym thrice myself. the spa room was open during its time. serving alcohol is not allowed in pakistan, but is allowed everywehre else. we were sailing in international waters. these very people drink at thier homes here. are you telling me that this was a problem there…absolutely not sir.if anyone has a problem with alcohol being served, i wonder how they survive when they travel abroad. they shouldv stayed clear of the bar area then…there was alot more to do.yes, there was a serious mishap with the visas, but in the mangements defense, this confusion was created by none other than the UAE officials who informed the management at the very last minute that they need to get visas for everyone of its passengers before they enter dubai..im a witness to the havoc created by these officials and how the management was trying desperately to sort this out.my husband was one of the passengers who did not get a visa and yes i was disappointed, but i would not be unreasonable and direct my anger towards the management of this cruise.as in all honesty, it was not their fault. that night, because the crowd was getting rowdy and demanded some kind of entertainment and suggested belly dancers, that these dancers were brought on board.it was entertainment that everyone participated in, at thier own wish. if anyone was uncomfortable, they should have left the hall.as somebody mentioned already, belly dancing is a very common thing in the UAE, and we have all heard of, or seen it happen. my disgust aroused at a comment made by this man who wrote the article, when he commented on mujras taking place on the ship in the name of dance parties…..im so sorry…but im really very disgusted…do u realize that the females you are calling prostitues and dancing girls were actually somebodys wives and daughters and sisters. and were there on the dance floor with their guardian’s consent. not all of us have the same life style and not all of us think this is morally wrong. yes, you might think that a few girls having a dancing party with either thier husbands or brothers or friends, was wrong, but im sorry, nobody asked you for your opinion on that. the ones with them had no problems with that. i know that every time these girls went to the dancing floor, they would first make sure that not toomany strangers were around, because they wanted to enjoy as much as anyone else, but as pathetic as our people’s mentality is, within no time, you would see a whole mob forming, sitting right infront of the dance floor , staring at these very girls like they had never seen a girl before that. to the point that they would drive these girls away from the floor. it was upsetting to see that their attitude was such.not one night did i see a ‘mujra” or any sign or prostitution. yes there were alot of passengers who wanted to know the “nightly rate” of these girls workin at the bar and in the restaurant. the staff was exceedingly cordial and polite. our shame was that the lat day when tips envelopes were left at every table for this staff, some people were obnoxious enough to put scoops of ice cream into these envelopes…
    my question is, how do u ever expect that the world should look upon us differently than plain thugs and backward law breakers, who have not made a name in anything else in this world but people who get caught doing all the wrong things.im not talkin about exceptions, mind you. but in general, this is what we have done to “us’. are all of you seriously tellin me that you can be so stupid as to believe eveything you hear and comment so viciously on it.without getting your facts together.if yes, then i myself would suggest all those who try and do something different for pakistan in the smallest of ways even.i know, you all will ask, whynot build schools, why not provide clean water. but my dears, everything is an industry..hospitality is an industry as well. everyone does different things for different industries and departments. this was a humble try at boosting up pakistans hospitality industry.we all have to support people who do any such things. this was someone who had put a hand into something for the very first time in pakistan, and we have all, put together as a nation, scared them off. disappointed them with these silly and baseless rumours.critisim is not bad, as long as its constructive, not destructive. plz realize that. do all of you know how much harm you have done to somebody with these comments on this page.and that also without any first hand knowledge. last but not the least. i dont know BG, but let me tell you one thing…this could have been the least profitable project for him..because rizwan and him put together most definitely have gone into a loss with this….if you all only knew the amount of money it takes just to dock this ship on this port and leave it standing here for days.with no customers on board, the amount of money they have to pay to maintain it, pay its employees…whilst all of you sit comfortably at home, making such vile comments about thier intentions and scandalizing other people’s sisters , wives, and mothers.
    time for you all to think….think really hard.do they really deserve this harsh a treatment. or an encouragement to do better the next time round.if you dont agree, then plz, be nobody to complain about the backwardness of your country.

  14. Alfa Zulu (unregistered) on November 18th, 2006 @ 11:22 am

    It is sad to see that the ppl did not get the value promised to them for the money they spent. This simply shows how unprofessional were the cruise operators.

    However going back to the press releases prior to the trip, the operators clearly mentioned that these cruises are not meant for ppl to travel between Karachi & Dubai and these are solely leisure cruises with parties & entertainment etc.
    Many of the so called modern Pakistani families may not encourage the ballroom / party dancing of their ladies. Keeping this in mind, what one could construe of the “Parties & Entertainment” statements is what exactly has been reported. I was expecting some sort of gambling as well.

    The pool had to be under utilized, how many Pakistani men would have allowed their wives, daughters or sisters to go around in the bikinis with other Pakistani men around. Again they might not object to this in less familiar surroundings.

  15. ash (unregistered) on November 18th, 2006 @ 1:11 pm

    Dear Tanya,
    I was pretty sure the “mujra” stuff was all made up. But ofcourse noone questioned the validity of that rumour.
    People are going to dance , people are going to drink and other people are going to be furious b/c many pakistani’s think everyone elses life is their personal buissness.
    I think karachi is not ready for such a large scale venture yet. I am not personally a drinker or a dancer so i cant pretend to be dissappointed.
    But the sad part is , if the cruise was just an erotic venture for bachelor parties noone would have complained about it for a second. I dont see anyone complaining about heera mundi.

  16. Original-Anon (unregistered) on November 18th, 2006 @ 8:17 pm

    @Teeth , the comment by Tanya presents a totally different picture from the one you had posted. I would say that her comment deserves to be an actual post rather than be buried here. Also, do you know the person who sent you that email and do you absolutely trust his story? If not, then this is no better than the infamous ‘Dr. Essa Lab’ post.
    @Ash: I hope you have figured out by now that Cy does not have anything to do with this post or the ‘mujra’ comment. Teeth posted it, not CY.

  17. Vikki (unregistered) on November 18th, 2006 @ 9:50 pm

    After reading post and comments, I reached to conclusion that dream cruise was not disappointing at all, considering in mind that the ship started its voyage from one of the most corrupt city of a failed state.
    I think its a good addition to the entertainment in Karachi and cruises to Bombay and other cities should also begin.

  18. ash (unregistered) on November 18th, 2006 @ 11:47 pm

    thanks o.a. No wonder cy never responded :)

  19. Tanveer (unregistered) on November 18th, 2006 @ 11:59 pm

    Ms. Tanya,

    I was on the ship, once it got anchored at port saeed. I was with lt. col. of immigration. If you got the visa, then you must have met him. he was the old guy in arabic dress.

    If am not mistaken arent you the lady who was with Mr. Mohiuddin (of the management). I may be wrong, but there was only one lady giving positive comments to the press at dubai port and that was Mrs. Mohiuddin. I will only give consideration to your comments once its proven that you are not related to the managment of the ship.

    As far as question of much talked about “Mujras” is concerned. Please confirm that one of the major larachi stock broker didnt bring two young ladies who were half of his age and danced all night at “king & Queens”. Also confirm that ladies from Lahore were not on the ships along with their moms.

    If the author of this blog is of low mentality then what you have to say on full night bookings of “russian” & “arabic” spas.

    You forgot to answer on sea water in swiming pool, if there was blockage in pipes for AC plant then how come swiming pool was full.

    I have forwarded photo of empty casino to the author of this blog for your comment that “it was only closed for under age”.

    To rest of the respondents to this blog, I will advise them to meet personally the victims of maiden voyage of this ship. I am sure the management will be more than happy to give the full list of “satisfied” customers.

    Oh by the way, talking about costing of docking ship and crew cost is bit fishy, it smells like some one from management is talking. The managment of the ship should leave the blog and give explainations somewhere else.

    Ohhh I forgot to mention, I do have photographic evidence of many many thinsg stated above, wannaa contest !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  20. Captain's Log (unregistered) on November 19th, 2006 @ 12:14 am

    @ Vikkie : “Failed State” ??? Stop watching Fox TV please.

    Tanya , I could understand the issues/mishaps but if you are gonna tell me that AC’s could not be started due to bad water then what the …. staff was doing. This is the most lame excuse some one could come up. This was first trip for Karachi people but not first for management. They were simply incompetent I guess.

  21. tanya (unregistered) on November 19th, 2006 @ 2:28 am

    this is to answer the question put forward by “captain’s log’. plz go through my comments again and realize that i never said “the water was dirty” what i said was that because of the garbage in the water where the ship had docked, the ac suctions had blocked.which is why they were shut down for the one night (the night before the cruise sailed). the entire night and the following day, the management did nothing but work on getting that area cleaned up so that they could switch the ac’s back on.
    if you have already blocked your mind to appreciating the effort made by this team, then there is nothing i or anyone else can say to convince you…but as i have already stated, its easy to make up your mind negatively reagrding something….but harder to look at the positive side of it.
    my request is not for you to buy a ticket and jump onto this cruise if you dont want to, but only that you should appreciate what needs to be appreciated…we all know that this was not the first time for the management, but the management ,regardless of how experienced they are, will have new problems if they are venturing new lands..it was the first time in pakistan, and so the problems were different. we already know about the corruption of this society and how hard it is to get anything done here.plz give them their due credit they deserve for giving it their best shot. the rest is all upto us..we have to be encouraging enough and welcoming enough for them to sta yput and keep on improving.

  22. Captain's Log (unregistered) on November 19th, 2006 @ 5:18 am

    Tanya Bibi, I am not an engineer so I really dunno how does those ACs work. But I am sure that when I am designing ship or any thing at such scale, I would have kept that in mind that I could come up with some water that could stopped working those ACs and I am sure there must have been precuationary steps which were not followed but then again I am not an expert so let’s stop it here.

    Thanks for helping me in opening my mind. I am enlightened with the knwoledge of how cruise ACs work. Thanks again, I am overwhelemed.

    I have nothing against cruise, its management and I am glad that you put other side of te story.Please tell me their email address or postal address where I could send them thank you note.

  23. tanya (unregistered) on November 19th, 2006 @ 7:03 am

    dear friend “captain’s log”

    none of us are engineers here. so none of us can actually comment on how the ac’s worked or didnt work..i am merely telling you what happened. as there was such a hype about the ac’s not working through out the trip that i had to put forward the facts as i was a passenger. besides, anything is possible here.have u ever been to kch port…if u have then im sure the garbage in that water could not have escaped your attention, which is why this story is so believable. secondly, this cruise had docked at dubai port for more than 24 hours…the ac’s were working perfectly fine then…wonder why???
    the precautionary measures your talking about, well, this isnt a small piece of machinery , neither is it some computer device that will take a few mins or max an hour to fix….this is a 23000 tons vessel.which takes longer to fix. n more techinal expertise…n even when it starts to work..the ship being so big takes longer to cool.this is not rocket science neither do u have to be an engineer to understand this as its common sense.
    lastly, as u were not on board urself, i cannot understand the sense of u wanting to say thank you to the management of dream cruise..one because u were so against the whole idea in the first place and also i dont think they will appreciate u thanking them as u have done them no favours by spreading such rumours about them.
    i hope i have put ur concerns to rest…as im sure iv answered all of them to the best of my ability n knowledge.
    NOW.our argument ends. SO LETS STOP IT HERE. even though im capable enough to take it further as i know what im sayin n u dont.

  24. Captain's Log (unregistered) on November 19th, 2006 @ 9:13 am

    Tanya Bibi, I do not care for Karachi as a city nor its cruise nor its management. I was just surprised that how come AC is not working on cruise. Just surprised, not complaining.

    You got all wrong impression of my comment and I apologize for that. I was never against the cruise nor its bars/club scene.I was only surprised with AC not working but I am glad that you cleared the whole scenario.

    I posted a pic. couple of hours ago on my blog for all this useless debating, hope it would cool off some of us.

  25. Does it matter (unregistered) on November 20th, 2006 @ 6:26 pm

    I wont judge the cruise just by the comments made here. I have been in situations more than once where bieng a pakistani was quite shamefull. Dont get me wrong, I love this country, but i hate the people, well, most of them.

    That put aside, and going from a neutral point of view, I see Tanveer’s and Captain’s comments and points more valid than Tanya’s. They have actual photographic proof and i dont think they would mind sharing it with the others. All i see in tanya’s post is baseless praise for the cruise and its management.

    If it all went so smooth, can we have any proof? Is there any blog with pictures of these “satisfied” customers using the mentioned facilities?

    Come to think of it, it is quite surprising that this was advertised with such vigor before it set sail, and all of that disappeared after the maiden cruise. Do i smell a fish?

    Dont you think making valid points and having a meaningfull discussion is better than pulling sh!t out of ur arse?

    Just my 2 pence

  26. ooriginal-anon (unregistered) on November 20th, 2006 @ 8:12 pm

    @ Does it matter.
    So you would rather believe Captain’s and Tanveer’s views rather than Tanya’s. May I ask why? Why do you think they have photographic proof? This one picture that Teeth put up could be any randowm guy.
    Consider this, out of these three, Tanya was the only one actually on the cruise; Tanveer wasn’t and I know my good buddy Captain wasn’t. Yet you call her comments ‘baseless praise’.
    Then you challenge people to provide proof that the cruise was a success, until then you will believe it to be a failure. That is a strange mentality , guilty until proven innocent.

  27. Arif (unregistered) on November 20th, 2006 @ 8:48 pm

    Seeing is beleiving. Tanya saw everything happening. Others sound more like gossip lovers and leg pullers rather than good samaritans who want to guide the people who have not been on cruise. Picture is worth thousand words. The picture posted is of a guy. If the guy looks tired in the picture, does not mean he is having bad time on the cruise.

  28. Does it matter (unregistered) on November 20th, 2006 @ 9:46 pm

    “Ms. Tanya,

    I was on the ship, once it got anchored at port saeed. I was with lt. col. of immigration. If you got the visa, then you must have met him. he was the old guy in arabic dress.” – Tanveer

    He says he was on the ship, just like tanya. Ummmm, Is it that hard to interpret?

    And no, i dont have a “Guilty until proven innocent” attitude. Ive read enough from a lot of people, not on this blog only. Its going on everywhere. Just make a few searches and you’ll find em.

    It kinda sucks how easy it is to fool people around here.

  29. ash (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 8:37 am

    Pakistanis (and many people)are often easy to fool but somehow impossible to convince with a legit argument :)

  30. Tanveer (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 8:16 pm

    @ Does it matter !!
    Just for the record I never travelled on this cruise. but was on board with the press guys to receive my friends & family. The ship anchored next to Custom house at Dubai port and after security check you can board (provided ship is anchored). neither I want to persuade any of commentators on what I have seen and heard. But comments by Tanya, should only be considered if she confirms that she is not related to management. Further, I second the idea of getting comments from an ACTUAL traveller.

    By the way, I was expecting some kinds reply from Tanya, she didnt rejected any of points made in my post.

    As far as “seeing is believing” is concerned…….. I have forwarded couple of photographs to Teeth Maestro. Here I request him to publish those pics here…… if Ms. Tanya do not have any objection.

  31. Original-Anon (unregistered) on November 21st, 2006 @ 10:57 pm

    This last comment from Tanveer has made me laugh so hard.
    So, Does It Matter – some serious crow eating is in order for you, it seems :)

  32. bilal tanweer (unregistered) on November 22nd, 2006 @ 12:14 pm

    teeth maestro:

    would you like to write for the news on sunday, kolachi section?

    get in touch with me: ed.kolachi@gmail.com


  33. tanya (unregistered) on November 24th, 2006 @ 6:13 pm

    i have to apologize for not being able to answer to most of the questions put forward by some of the readers all this time..
    i was quite surprised to read some of the comments made by “tanveer”. it seems to me that if i am trying to make everybody see the “good side” of the picture, hes hell bent on doing the opposite. its evidence enough in itself that if im from the management, then he’s from the group of people who JUST dont want this to work. yes, for your satisfaction, i would like to confirm that i am NOT from the management, neither am i related to them in any way. if i were, then im sure, just like u have “photographic evidence” , i would too. infact i would have alot more to put up on this site. alot many facts and figures to put you all at ease. may i also clarify that the only reason i know so much about this is coz of the fact that i myself am from the hospitality industry and have had the work experience of years to make sense of all this and understand the hard work that goes into it.also, i know how many things can go wrong, but sadly, i have never seen, in all the different places around the world that i have worked at, this kind of a response and negativity.
    i think Mrs Mohinudin would have better things to do than so sit down and clarify herself or her husband on this site, of all the places, time and again.the reason im doing it is coz i happened to hear of it, and was enraged by the lies and rumours being spread, and worst of all, the fact that some of us would actually believe them.
    may i clarify that i am not here to defend anyone or protect anyone’s image. my outrage was over the fact that we were not willing to give these people the chance to prove themselves in this country. which is why i will not get into another debate over the details anymore. even though there are a few statements made which i have satisfying answers to.like the fact that there was no such place as “kings and queens”, like the fact that if someone had brought a girl half his age, on the trip, then that is his wrong-doing, i honestly dont see why the management should be blamed for that. like the fact that there were hardly any girls on board in the first place. and the ones that were there were with their families.im sure, something of the sort, could not have possibly escaped our attention, and sadly for you mr tanveer, it did.
    also, in response to allllll your accusations, may i ask, that even though you were not on board yourself, how did u manage to get such detailed informations regarding these “ghost-ladies” to the point of knowing their origins….i wonder if someone u knew had availed their services. if yes, prove it and i will have no more to say…till then plz dont try and impress us with ur ‘oh so pious’ attitude. the fact that u supposedly knew all this , and we didnt speaks 4 itself.
    for the rest of you, may i say that all i wanted to do was give you the other side of the picture. i cannot possibly argue with all of you individually…nor do i want to. coz i have come to realize that people will believe what they want to..i cannot change your minds for u. sadly, some of us will encourage those with a negative attitude…thats something we need to change collectively…i cant do it on my own, but il try using this as a platform, to begin with.

  34. Farooque siddiqui (unregistered) on November 24th, 2006 @ 6:25 pm

    I fully support the view by Ms. Tanya on this issue. I am kind of a person who have positive attitude towards new positive developments happening in Pakistan. Being an expat Pakistani living in Dubai, I strongly support the reforms under way in Pakistan. At last we got some respect in the community of nations. Please try see the glass half full rather than half empty.

  35. Imtiaz (unregistered) on November 24th, 2006 @ 11:22 pm

    Well, I hope it is not too late to comment. I was on the first voyage of Dream Cruise along with my family. I fully endorse the views of Tanya (18th November 2006). We enjoyed the trip. For any first-timer, teething problems are bound to develop. This trip was not an exception. However, non-issuance of visa by UAE authorities was unexpected. I believe, nowhere in the world assurance is given about grant of visa by immigration authorities of a country. Operators of Dream Cruise, indeed, compensated all those who were denied visa by offering another free trip. Everyone on board behaved decently. The crew was very courteous to all its guests and friendly with children. Whoever has invested in this project should be encouraged. I would strongly recommend anyone to experience this cruise along with their family and/or friends.

  36. Hameed Baloch (unregistered) on November 25th, 2006 @ 12:39 am

    Babur Ghouri and MQM! Enough said. I would have avoided this “cruise” like a deathly plague. Also, Pakis behaving badly after a drink? What a surprise. I can’ believe people bought into this crape. But, we Pakistani are felling much better these days being “enlightened” and “rich” because of inflated real estate prices and fake economic progress. If we take Mush and Shortcut Aziz, we are only missing the third stooge to complete the three stooges. Lol!

  37. Asif Raza (unregistered) on November 26th, 2006 @ 3:54 pm

    well what do you expect from the Pakistani people , this is so worse to hear people blaming the cruise it self , where the people of Pakistan are like that , as some one said that drinking is probited in Pakistan ,he should tell me first that if Drinking is probited in Pakistan why do i see so many drinking dens , so many people drinking alcohol on the main roads while driving , so many Pakistani escort agencyz advertised on international website hUh!!

    Asif Raza
    PECHS ,Karachi
    0333 3160671

  38. ashraf hussain (unregistered) on November 29th, 2006 @ 10:41 am

    first let me tell you one thing about rizwan mohiuddin who is the so called owner of that ship. He is a convicted crimnal and has been arrested several times by ( F.B.I )and other law enforcement agencies if you want you can get his crimnal record from (Houston Texas Usa).He is a cheater and fraud and cheated lot of pakistanis in houston.He is not a pakistani national ,he is from (Hyderabad Deccan INDIA).How come government of pakistan gave him permission in 24 hours to operate a cruise from karachi to dubai without checking his background.I heard from reliable sources that indian underworld don aness ibrahim brother of dawood ibrahim is rizwan mohiuddin partner in that business,because they wanted to start gambling and human smuggling using cruise as a tool.

  39. ashraf hussain (unregistered) on November 29th, 2006 @ 10:41 am

    first let me tell you one thing about rizwan mohiuddin who is the so called owner of that ship. He is a convicted crimnal and has been arrested several times by ( F.B.I )and other law enforcement agencies if you want you can get his crimnal record from (Houston Texas Usa).He is a cheater and fraud and cheated lot of pakistanis in houston.He is not a pakistani national ,he is from (Hyderabad Deccan INDIA).How come government of pakistan gave him permission in 24 hours to operate a cruise from karachi to dubai without checking his background.I heard from reliable sources that indian underworld don aness ibrahim brother of dawood ibrahim is rizwan mohiuddin partner in that business,because they wanted to start gambling and human smuggling using cruise as a tool.

  40. XPAT (unregistered) on November 30th, 2006 @ 7:14 pm

    Mr. Hameed,
    Your last name confirms why you hate the progress of the country and the leadership…
    Please refrain from IRRESPONSIBLE comments.

  41. XPAT (unregistered) on November 30th, 2006 @ 7:15 pm

    Mr. Hameed,
    Your last name confirms, why you hate progress of the country and the leadership…
    Please refrain from IRRESPONSIBLE comments.

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