Police deserves some respect…

specially when they are doing the right thing.

Today I witnessed something that convinced me that until people don’t fear the police, and until the police don’t have enough resources to tackle the trouble makers completely, we will never be law abiding citizens.

It so happened that I was standing at an intersection to make a U-turn, waiting for my light to turn green. As the light turned green, and I started to make the turn, a brand new Corolla cruising from the opposite end ignored his red light and went on to cross the intersection with full speed. He had to stop in the middle of the intersection, because my car was in his way (or he would have hit me from left side). That’s when a cop appeared on his bike and directed the driver to pull over to the side of the road. However, he was not interested in following instructions. He just drove off even faster than before, and the poor policeman had no way of following him as his bike was in terrible condition.

Had it been some other country, the offensive driver would have been chased and intercepted and jailed for violating traffic light and refusing to stop when directed by a cop. But this is Karachi. People are not afraid of police here. I have seen so many times people ignoring the cop when asked to stop. It’s a shameful act and we find it funny.

I think the police in Karachi should be given more power to control the law and order. They should be given higher salaries so that they don’t get distracted by bribes. They should be given better vehicles so that they can follow the criminals and stop them. In the United States, if you don’t stop, the cops can hit your car and damage it until it cannot be driven. And there is no way you can offer them bribe. As a result, people follow rules. They know they will be in trouble if they didn’t. That kind of fear doesn’t exist in Karachi. No one is afraid of the police.

32 Comments so far

  1. Erum (unregistered) on December 13th, 2006 @ 5:24 pm

    Umar, I couldn’t agree more. Police in Karachi needs to ‘earn’ that respect (By correcting their actions – no bribes etc.) and laws need to be enforced at the same time. You can’t expect people to change overnight, but this profession can be made as respectable (or even more) as our forces (Army etc.) It just needs a very strong leadership and accountability framework.


  2. Kashif (unregistered) on December 13th, 2006 @ 5:56 pm

    Even if the driver would have stopped the police wala would have taken a couple of hundred bucks and let the issue resolved on the spot. Things are not going to improve until and unless the corrupt policemen are not removed from the force.


  3. billygun (unregistered) on December 13th, 2006 @ 6:56 pm

    I dont agree with u Kashif..actually these things(less salary and a sadiyon puraani motorcycle) have made them selfish tht they dont see anything in front of a bribe.They are corrupted only becuz they are not been given any attention or else u can see the highway police..they have been given a good quality vehicle and high salaries and tht is why when u offer bribe to them,they refuse.
    Things need to be change and for this v want each and every individual to realize and fulfill his/her responsibilty!


  4. Jamal Shamsi (unregistered) on December 13th, 2006 @ 7:39 pm

    I agree with Billygun

    As individuals we must understand and realise practice our responsibilities as well.

    Let us try with accepting a traffic ticket and feel the pain when making / attempting a traffic offence.

    Cheers!


  5. Original-Faisal (unregistered) on December 13th, 2006 @ 7:54 pm

    Umar,

    Excellent post. Agree with you 100%. Even though I live abroad, I visit Karachi frequently (two or three times a year)and one of the things that truly irks me is this lack of respect for rules and regulations. I honestly think one of the underlying reasons is the ridiculously low salary scale. Although I’m not sure exactly what the salaries are for a policeman here in the States, I’m certain that they are paid at a level which allows them to provide their families a respectable middle-class lifestyle. And this is what keeps most of them honest.

    Again, not knowing exactly what a traffic cop or policeman in Pakistan earns, I put forth the question that how can one expect someone earning probably less than what a good Bengali cook earns in Karachi to be immune from the temptation and most likely the necessity?


  6. Murtaza (unregistered) on December 13th, 2006 @ 8:09 pm

    A possible solution could be public participation. If the well-to-do could form a sort of liaison and donate say a 100rs a month, to an account that would be utilized to augment the measly salaries, on the condition that they do not accept bribes, i feel the condition could be improved.
    Again, as citizens it is our duty to abide by the laws, discourage underage driving and atleast refrain from disrespecting the police.


  7. suhail (unregistered) on December 13th, 2006 @ 9:22 pm

    we dont have to give examples of other countries any more, and you dont have to take my word for it…
    Just on your next trip to Islamabad, try to violate a traffic rule. you will know what i mean.
    And guess what, not only the islamabadies have changed driving habits “”over-night””, Islamabad model traffic police also is respected and feard a lot. A good success story. I have heard the same system will be in place in lahore also. lets see when Karachi follows the suit.


  8. Monkey (unregistered) on December 13th, 2006 @ 9:41 pm

    I totally agree with you. I dont understand why people don’t follow the traffic signals in the city. Ek minute ruk jayeinge toh kya hojaye ga?


  9. Sufi (unregistered) on December 13th, 2006 @ 10:22 pm

    Umar: I don’t think we need to fear the police, infact we need to fear the law & respect the police as custodians of the law.

    Erum: People can change overnight. In an extreme case, pass the law to shoot the vehicle breaking the law, then see what happens. Secondly, even the forces (Army) are not respected anymore. They are the biggest ‘thugs’ in our country now :(.

    Even if the salary is 5 times the present salary, there is always an incentive to act immorally – more money. So, I think CCTV should be in place at all signals and all over the city. All conversations between the policewala & the accused be recorded and transmitted live to the headquarters (not a difficult thing to achieve). Also, increase the fine of breaking the signal from 300-400 rs (or whatever it is right now) to 5,000 Rupees or even higher to generate income for the Traffic Police Department.


  10. mansoor (unregistered) on December 13th, 2006 @ 10:47 pm

    i agree with Suhail, ISB traffic police is definately the model to follow here, and we’ll see things improving greaty and even ‘overnight’.


  11. fahad (unregistered) on December 13th, 2006 @ 11:41 pm

    I daily find TULLAZ stopping contract vans (like the one that takes me to office) and ask for the monthly TOKEN!!! They have got printed TOKENS with the month mentioned on that! not only a small TULLA is part of this… even the biggest TULLA having many TULLAZ back and forth for protocol is involved… they all enjoy the monthly income of millions of Rupees collected from all over Karachi!!! the same way public buses rickshaws taxies even bikers pay for one reason or the other (like a TULLA can see a broken indicator of a bike very clearly but can’t see 6 feet men sitting on the roof of a bus!!!) therefore if these ****** TULLAZ want respect they better make themselves deserve first!!!


  12. Saqib (unregistered) on December 14th, 2006 @ 12:20 am

    good post .. just hope one day ppl start respecting laws .. thats all it will take to fix everything.

    Sufi .. honest dude dont understand why you had to bring in army (thugs as u called them) in this post.. why cant we be a lil constructive sometimes.

    Fahadm .. Appreciate the level of respect you showed to our police .. no matter how corrupt they r right now .. it has to start somewhere .. and if we as educated ppl cant do it no one else can .. what hurts the most is seeing shiny new cars with smart well dressed supposedly educate ppl sitting in them giving two hoots about traffic laws ..

    again hope that day comes when we can really and truly say we r law abiding citizens


  13. Sajjad Hussain (unregistered) on December 14th, 2006 @ 12:28 am

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  14. Sajjad Hussain (unregistered) on December 14th, 2006 @ 12:32 am

    hi again sorry maine dekha nahi sahi tarha se yaar meri help karoge mujhe bhi aik blog bana doge is par mujhe ADSENSE use karna hai . please this is my mail id sajjadhusain@hotmail.com


  15. Sufi (unregistered) on December 14th, 2006 @ 2:01 am

    Saqib, I am sorry about that, take my words back.


  16. Pak_Stallion (unregistered) on December 14th, 2006 @ 2:28 am

    First we have to ask ourselves do we want to live like a civilized and respected nation or not? If yes, then all the rules must apply. Then we must stop accusing and blaming the nation & system and get to work.

    We have to fix our characters. The civilians must intervene and help police when possible. For example if we had good characters & understood the value of DUTY towards our country, then even if that Policeman didnt had a car, ten other people could have/should have chased that driver down in minutes and brought him back to the police.

    Corruption and Jahalat will be defeated with sustained teamwork. Police are also our people and probably doing a much more difficult job then us. Police must also take extensive trust-building measures. Dont worry people we will take Pakistan forward “together” InshaAllah.


  17. turab (unregistered) on December 14th, 2006 @ 2:38 am

    now thats more like it… constructive debate for a positive direction… I am very happy to see the wlecoming change … BRAVO!


  18. Tamed~ (unregistered) on December 14th, 2006 @ 3:36 am

    Two Comments:

    1. Every one knows that police in Karachi is for providing un-interrupted & safe VVIP movements.

    2. Is there any role that CPLC can play to improve the ‘overall’ situation?

    Tamed~.


  19. adnan (unregistered) on December 14th, 2006 @ 3:37 am

    it is us who offer them bribe. we do this so we dont have to go in hassle of paying off ticket fine. I got stop by a cop once, and it wasnt my fault. he was accusing me for crossing red light. I asked him to give me the ticket rather than giving him money, and at the end he lemme go without any thing….

    We just love to violate laws, and then we questioned our government about all the accidents and traffic jams.

    Who ever is living in karachi and reading this post.. ask yourself a question do u drive cars or motorcycles according to law. do u give right of way to pedestrians and other cars.. do u stop before zebra crossing .. where ever it is in karachi… how many time we honks on other cars just to overtake them … all this is our fault… we move on roads worse than animals.. even when small ants go out in search of food .. they move in a queue.. so where we do stand.. answer urself..


  20. Bozz (unregistered) on December 14th, 2006 @ 8:57 am

    You all have spoken of causes not reason. Nothing will change or improve without awareness. You can try and pay the highest salary, give them the best bikes etc. but nothing will change. And you know why?

    Due to lack of education. Till people are not educated they will not understand the law, forget about obeying it. And this statement is for both sides of the law.

    Remember even in our religion, it states, the Giver as well as the Receiver of bribe are both condemned.

    We the public are as much to blame as the police. We are as corrupt as the police. Let us not forget police people do not fall from the sky. they are from amongst us. They and we are a reflection of our nation.

    No amount of rules, laws etc, will help. As it is we have more than sufficient laws in place. It is the implementation that is lacking. And will never arrive till we have a decent education.

    So keep on dreaming.


  21. Kashif (unregistered) on December 14th, 2006 @ 10:08 am

    Totally agree with Fahad. I had bad experience with the khaki police wallas in ramadan who took my car away from a place that had no ‘No-Parking’ sign and then asked for 1100 rupees. It was like 30-40 minutes before iftaar – I gave them 300.

    Police ka hay faraz madad aap ki?

    I don’t believe giving high salaries or fast rides would improve anything. Haram khanay ki aadat ho jaay tau chorna bhuat mushkil hota hay.


  22. Kashif (unregistered) on December 14th, 2006 @ 10:12 am

    Totally agree with Fahad. I had bad experience with the khaki police wallas in ramadan who took my car away from a place that had no ‘No-Parking’ sign and then asked for 1100 rupees. It was like 30-40 minutes before iftaar – I gave them 300.

    Police ka hay faraz madad aap ki?

    I don’t believe giving high salaries or fast rides would improve anything. Haram khanay ki aadat ho jaay tau chorna bhuat mushkil hota hay.


  23. Raza (unregistered) on December 14th, 2006 @ 11:37 am

    as long as u keep calling them “tullah” or “farmi anday”, u shudnt expect anything good fromt them. will u respect a person who call u “chay” all the time?

    pehle apna ko sudharo aur tameez sekho tab dosro se izzat aur acha salook k tawaka rakho.

    someone asked the salary of a police wala, a lower grade police wala earns around 4000 /mo and MAANI did a program by visitin a home of a police wala it brought tears in my eyes after seeing such a filthy condition of that home. They live a dog’s life, give them respect atleast!


  24. Bozz (unregistered) on December 14th, 2006 @ 12:12 pm

    RAZA : Hear this well. Respect is never given. It is always earned.

    Secondly lower pay is not the reason and or justification for being corrupt and a A– Hole. This comes from within.

    If poverty is the reason for corruption than there is NO – absolutely NO hope for this country.

    We hide our character or lack of one, behind excuses of all types. Again filth and poverty are also not related. Being not clean, i.e. being filthy is also a part of our national character. There are other poor nations, you should check their populace out. And I speak from first hand experience.

    Lastly if a man is poor and still insists on climbing his wife every night to take out dependants by the dozen, he can hardly blame others or society for his condition.

    As I keep saying on these blogs, there is no hope and no remedy to our problems in Pak-land – untill and unless we provide education to the masses and cut the population growth.


  25. BIllygun (unregistered) on December 14th, 2006 @ 2:06 pm

    I think v should stop blaming the police everytime..just stand up and play ur role!
    What v have to think is k yeh sab kaisey roka jasakta hai…v really need to tell the people how to obey the laws and respect their cops.
    I agree with Murtaza what he said about depositing Rs.100/month to an account that would be utilized to augment the measly salaries, on the condition that they do not accept bribes.
    Atleast give it a start!


  26. Bozz (unregistered) on December 14th, 2006 @ 4:29 pm

    BILLYGUN : The problem is not money. We pay taxes, i.e. the citizens of Pakistan. We should rightly expect and get an efficient police service. That is our right.

    The suggestion of collecting 100 ruppees is a immature one. Who all will pay? How many of us will pay? Who will collect? Who will distribute it? And finally where will the bulk of it end up?

    Just the thought of the above gives me the shivers.

    The people of Pakistan suffer as it is as the Army eats up the bulk of our GNP. I will be damned if I will pay anymore to the Govt., to see some other dis-honest, selfish public servants gobble it up.

    And to whom all do you propose to pay this additional gift? At which level do you propose to draw a line? ASI? Inspector? DSP? SP? SSP? AIG? shall I go on?

    Can you kindly point out at what rank honest officers start so we can say from here we have honest people? And can you assure me that those officers that do get paid well are honest?

    Come on – open your eyes and think outside the box!


  27. Saqib (unregistered) on December 14th, 2006 @ 9:11 pm

    Sufi.. thanx :)
    rest .. just start following the law yourself .. there will not be any need to give bribes … nor call police wala’s tullas !!!


  28. Raza (unregistered) on December 15th, 2006 @ 10:52 am

    saqib beta first control ur smelly tongue then teach otherz

    Bozz, aulad aur aurat insaan ka sab se bara fitnah hay,it was said in koran. mostof people do corruption for their families. if family member start realizing their limiations nd dont go beyond them then a man woudnt think about to corrupt himself


  29. fahad (unregistered) on December 15th, 2006 @ 9:37 pm

    When I was a little boy… I used to salute these TULLAZ, because I didn’t know who bad these uniform wearing creatures are!!! by the passage of time, slowly & steadily they made me to call them TULLA!
    They took Rs.300 when I was learning to drive in a GANDA park at night with my big brother, just for no reason! (Infect they were telling us that some cases of looting have been reported in this are, as if we were the suspected ones!!!
    Few months ago, at UNI CENTER I saw a FARMI TULLA with a SUZUKI PICK-UP, dumping bikes in a reckless manner – causing damage to the bikes, in the pick-up!!! he had GUTKA in his dirty mouth and a devilish smile on his face, out of 20-25 bikes he loaded 5 in that pick-up and moved away… I was waiting for the bus when I saw a young man came out of UNI CENTER with a CPU in his hands, looking for his bike… think for just one little second, how had he felt at that very moment!!! Isn’t he a human being??? I don’t know what happened next… all I could do for him was just few sentences of DUA and few… you know what for that TULLA
    These are two of many GREAT experiences of mine & my fellow citizens of our POLITE & LOVING police!!!
    There is only one solution to this problem of GANDI POLICE (infect to half of the problems of KHI) and that is “SAAREY TULLOn KO JAHAZ PE BETHA K SAMUNDAR ME DUBAA DO!!!” simple!


  30. fahad (unregistered) on December 15th, 2006 @ 9:49 pm

    CORRECTION:

    1) line:2 word:1

    HOW

    2) line:3 word:5
    steadily they made me call them TULLA!

    :)


  31. Bozz (unregistered) on December 16th, 2006 @ 8:57 am

    RAZA : I guess by your beliefs a man should walk straight in to heaven as he is NOT to be blamed for anything.

    This is the most ridiculous explanation I have come across. It reeks of male supremacy and Paki machoism.

    Time to open your eyes and prove your sex by taking responsibility for your actions.


  32. fahad (unregistered) on December 16th, 2006 @ 7:20 pm

    Quran-o-Hadith se ye to saabit he k AWLAAD insaan k liyey aazmaaish he (Allah maal & awlaad de k aazmata he aur lekey bhi aazmaataa he) magar fitna nahi kaha gaya he… ye ho sakta he keh HIRS-o-TAMA k shikaar bivi bacho ko kaha gaya ho… but not to all in general!!! aur wesey to ek buraa shohor yaa baap bhi bivi bacho k liyey aazmaaish (yaa FITNA) hi hota he…
    jaha tak baat he POLICE k rishwat leney ki… iss ka in se koi taaluq nahi… ye buzdili he k kaha jaaey “meto bivi bacho k liyey rishwat leta hooN” agar RAASHI ho to ye kaho k apney liyey… apni lalach k liyey rishwat leta hoo… aur agar sharam aaey to naa lo!!!
    ek mazdoor 12 ghantey kaam karta he sirf 3000 rupey k liyey… woh kesey zinda he rishwat k bagher??? kia mazdooroN k bivi bachey nahi hotey???

    p.s. koi bhi baat Quran yaa Hadith se jorney se pehley tehqeeq karlena chahiyey… ye koi mazaq nahi hota he k jo dil chaha likh diya aur keh dia Quran me he!!!



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