Have things really changed this much?
Go out in Karachi any day and you will find KFC, McDonald’s, Mr. Burger, etc etc overflowing with those endless couples who have no other getaways. In the past few years, the trend had changed.. people have grown more and more used to seeing couples ‘dating’.
But have things changed so much that Karachi is willing to accept this emerging trend ‘officially’?
Shahzad, I never called it a “date”.
Besides, I wonder which consequences you are talking about. In most Western countries, you can practice Islam/Christianity/Judaism or whatever religion more freely than you can in most “Muslim Countries”. They citizens are most protected. They get best health care. They get the cleanest drinking water. They value the lives of their citizens. They have the least corruption. They have the best education systems and some of the best welfare state systems. What consequences are you talking about??
When we stop following our elders, we gona fall astray ( in any field).
If Muhammad (PBUH) had followed his elders, there wouldn’t be any Islam. Stop talking trash.
For some reason people always say “the west” as if its all about pornography. and ‘our elders” as if we have the worlds most perfect history. Wake up, there are good and bad things about the east and the west.
And as for poor women having their hearts broken after dating has noone heard of women having their bones broken in arranged marriages? what with the rose tinted blinders?
Sufi my dear, a person who have a thinking “Sunk costs irrelevent” is less worthy to be taken seriously and credible. I would advise you to re-read whatever you said and then come and attack on me. In this way ,you would be sound more good while responding me. Yes I repeat re-read every bit you wrote in your earlier replies. I knew that you gotta respond me and declare me hypocrite due to that movie thingie, this is why I delibrately asked the question to expose your intellect approach further. No problem my friend,curse on[if it gives support to your statments :) ]
When we stop following our elders, we gona fall astray ( in any field).
If Muhammad (PBUH) had followed his elders, there wouldn’t be any Islam. Stop talking trash
Oh my God!!!!!!!! Wo kia kah raha hey aur tum kahan se kaha mila rahey ho.Laholwalaquat!! You reminded me a shair:
Ek nuqtay[dot] ney mahram ko mujrim banadia
Wo dua kartay rahay hum dagha parhtay rahay.
Adnan, you are funny you know and nearly not half as smart as you think you are. By the way, its a very basic rule in economics.. and some of the greatest economists believe that sunk costs irrelevant. Just to let you know :) .
I knew that you gotta respond me and declare me hypocrite due to that movie thingie, this is why I delibrately asked the question to expose your intellect approach further.
hahaha. I cannot help laughing. Looks like you have learned all the techniques from the indian soap operas of how to “expose others intellectual approach”. :D
Ek nuqtay[dot] ney mahram ko mujrim banadia
Wo dua kartay rahay hum dagha parhtay rahay
reminded me of a teacher.. I always thought why people don’t use zair, zabar, paish. Why don’t you re-read all that you have said and then all that I have some and come up with nice rebuttals. I can do this all night you know..
early not half as smart as you think you are
Do you believe that one has to be smart to answer your replies? :-)
I have some and come up with nice rebuttals. I can do this all night you know
nahi merey Qadeem[ancient] dost, tum jeetey mey hara. what all you said and will say in future will be right :-). I would rather leave up to visitors of this blog to use their brains to grasp my point of view about dating. Readers can read your answers too.
have fun and may you get a nice gift from Santa. Amen
early not half as smart as you think you are
Do you believe that one has to be smart to answer your replies? :-)
I have some and come up with nice rebuttals. I can do this all night you know
nahi merey Qadeem[ancient] dost, tum jeetey mey hara. what all you said and will say in future will be right :-). I would rather leave up to visitors of this blog to use their brains to grasp my point of view about dating. Readers can read your answers too.
have fun and may you get a nice gift from Santa. Amen
i like to read a good a discussion just as much as the next person but my god , can’t help but notice the pathetically woeful and unintelligent writing and discourse put forth by one party .
continuer – s’il vous pla√Æt
If you want to eat an Elephant , take one bite at a time – Confucius (or someone else )
DV
I guess it all takes all types. people generally expose themselves for who they are when they talk long enough.
Someone copied this post here without any credit to Karachi Metroblog.
I’ve seen a lot of progress each time i’ve gone back to Karachi. There will always be pros and cons but there is one particular habit of a majority of the Karachi population that pisses me off the most. STARING! GHOURNA!
I’m not here to simply complain, I HAVE A SOLUTION!….ready?…..PEPPER SPRAY! Aka MACE…I’m coming to Karachi again in January and I will be personally handing these babies out. I do think that once the behsharam loug get some killer mace in their eyes, that’ll be a good lesson. Thoughts?
ASH!! WE muslims have the brightest history among all of the nations.
Go and read and then talk to me.
Sufi! Either u r a “moderate Mulla” , as pervaiz musharaf wants or either u need to get some brains before talkin like that.
All elders who followed Mohammad (SAW), im asking u to follow them . Now the question can be raised that why we shud not follow Mohammad(SAW) directly?
Moreover, i think u have just had look at one side of the picture. In west, there is rape at every 2 seconds. I guess there is more than that but only 31% of women report rape.
I dont know which west allows us to practise Islam freely. Didnt u read the news of ppl being arrested in UK, canda and USA including some children as well??
Go and read either Oria Maqbool Jaan’s “Hurf-e-Raaz” or Javaid’s Chaudry’s “Zero Point”. Then u will understand wat i want to say.
And no more non sense now.
And this could lead to a big debate which i dont want to do here at least.
All this hullabaloo over one measly meal lol … seriously, people need to grow up!! Don’t act as if you’re saints. It’s just a date, just a friggin’ D.A.T.E.!!!!
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with a guy wanting to take a girl out, or vice versa. It’s been happening for ages and I am so tired of people acting as if it’s a recent development. Stop trying to prove how religiously inclined you are by casting those who do date in a bad light.
Apparently raping women is acceptable and dating them is not?Talk about “Dark times”.
Furthermore, people here need to understand the fact that everything doesn’t necessarily have sexual undertones. If you take someone out it doesn’t mean you’re doing it to get into their pants – if you do: then god save you. There’s a little something known as ” Platonic Relationships” and most friendships are just that – Platonic!
And here i thought only Lahore was being taken over by the ‘holier than thou’ clan.
Amar ma man!
Besides SUFI and AMAR here I feel all the guys here have the *BORAT* mentality. If you don’t know who that is watch the movie. There is nothing offensive about dating or eating Mr. Burger together, it is what happens later that needs to be curbed.
For a girl it is getting an oppurtunity to get dressed,look great,get compliments,feel special, free good food and presents not to mention a free ride.
In between if it’s the guy’s lucky day he gets a little reward. Dates are mostly girl driven.
As far as rapes etc are concerned, if the girl is in the wrong place at the wrong time, things will get out of control, it happens everywhere not only in Pakistan but all around the world, that’s why females are supposed to stay indoors in PURDAH if they don’t know any better or can’t take care of themselves.
QUICK QUESTION, TOTALLY OFF COURSE:
DO YOU GET PAID FOR STAYING BACK FROM WORK DUE TO A STRIKE?
Yo METROBLOGGING…..its my first anniversary here i have completed my first year today….can i go to the Cambridge now….?
http://karachi.metblogs.com/archives/2005/12/merry_christmas.phtml
Yo Bankie you cannot make me a founding member…chillout:-p
last christmas….
i gave you my heart
if i am still here
and you are still here
so you are as greedy
as greedy can be…lol
hmm I hope all the other people who are saying that it only about friendship and it doesn’t have to be sexual in nature. I hope so 2, but really doubt it will stay that way for long, things take time and eventually pre-martial sex is going to be as common as “pre-martial what?”, people have the tendency to only look at the present, we never look at the past and see what the trend is and how it will affect the future. Today may be majority my generation is not indulging in such behaviors but this is where things are going and unless something is done to stop that from happening. There is need for us to understand our religion, being proud of our own heritage, being proud of our values. Some people are still in denial but we are living with an inferiority complex and unless we accept that we can not fix ourselves. This is the main reason why we are so attracted by every thing western. We want to live like them but sadly majority of the time adopt the wrong ideals. Ethics, Justice, Honesty, Education are probably the once on our list but cloths, music, fashion are at the top. The bottom for are the most talked about but never practiced. If we could see the social boundaries that Islam has given us as the best option for a societies to have than we will not see these kinds of trends but instead we will see the trends in innovation, welfare, equality. Our grandparents broke the physical chains we need to break out of the mental chains and be free.