KESC on holiday?

and yes.. the title is full of sarcasm.

I’m not too sure of other areas but where I live, there hasn’t been a power failure since Saturday. A reader(Sami) has also pointed out the same for Korangi. While the family jokes about the government officials being busy terrorising the city, I wonder what the reason behind the uninterrupter power supply could be. Maybe, the closing down of businesses for the past 3 days meant that KESC had some extra power to spare for us residents. Or maybe the authorities that be really did have their hands full with ‘other matters’.

Is this true for other parts of town too or is my area the only one blessed?

I hope I haven’t spoken too soon.

41 Comments so far

  1. Noman (unregistered) on May 15th, 2007 @ 6:06 pm

    i guess thats pretty much the same throughout karachi, which is kinda strange

  2. Sajid (unregistered) on May 15th, 2007 @ 6:11 pm

    Well, pretty straight i guess. 95% of commercial electricity usage is saved within these days which almost accounts to 30% usage, similarly industrial usage was also below par. So kesc had plenty of electricity to dispose…

  3. Tariq (unregistered) on May 15th, 2007 @ 6:34 pm

    A more interesting explanation of this anomaly is that since KESC offices were empty during the last 3 days, there was no one to turn off the power! Think about it.

  4. Obi Wan Kenobi (unregistered) on May 15th, 2007 @ 7:03 pm

    What does it tell ??? There is not much wrong with system but lack of electricty so if we all could be more proactive in saving power, we could help to resolve the issue or at leat we would not be the part of the problem but here mentality is that if I am paying bill or willing to pay a bill then why should I care.

  5. Asif Raza (unregistered) on May 15th, 2007 @ 7:11 pm

    But Karachi is a big city and it does not has enough resources of power to cope up , governer house has no power failures , niether CM house what about that , this is done totally on discrimination basis , if you are big and power you get electricity , respect everything and if you are poor so you are powerless…

  6. Arsalaan Haleem (unregistered) on May 15th, 2007 @ 7:54 pm

    Guys, the good news is that KESC staff is now well on duty, today. They turned off our elec. three times this afternoon.

  7. Tabraiz Feham (unregistered) on May 15th, 2007 @ 8:00 pm

    we people can’t digest anything easily :)
    light hai to masla .. light nahi to masla…

    ya rab.. tu hi humaray haal per reham farma!

  8. Raza (unregistered) on May 15th, 2007 @ 9:31 pm

    Oh my god, you opened my eyes! NOT! Now crawl back into that little hole you came from.

    ahem! About KESC, yeah, the obvious rational explanation would be that without markets using up power, there was plenty to go around until today :(.

  9. BoZz (unregistered) on May 15th, 2007 @ 9:35 pm

    Load Shedding is back again in full form. The reason was because all commercial businesses were closed.

    Enjoy….the heat

  10. Kashif (unregistered) on May 15th, 2007 @ 9:39 pm

    Power failures are back. We had one and half hour load shedding today.

  11. Red_Munk!! (unregistered) on May 15th, 2007 @ 9:48 pm

    :D. Its a sign of things getting back to normal!!!
    WOOHOO!!! :D.

    …..oh! o_O.

  12. Ali (unregistered) on May 15th, 2007 @ 10:38 pm

    A bit off topic but must see

    “About 800,000 people were the victim of mobile telephone theft in England and Wales last year, new government figures have suggested.”

    Thats around 2000 mobiles a DAY!!!!!

  13. d0ct0r (unregistered) on May 15th, 2007 @ 11:27 pm

    yea there was no power outage since 12th may.. reason could be that they didn’t wanted boiled and infuriated public to come on the road and start burning KESC trucks coz MQM’s terrorism was enough of a headache for them to deal with…

  14. HASSAN' (unregistered) on May 15th, 2007 @ 11:45 pm

    I was thinking the same……..but…….today’s power failure in our area (F.B.Area blk 21) is of 1.5 Hrs…….so they still alive

  15. d0ct0r (unregistered) on May 15th, 2007 @ 11:59 pm

    there was almost 1.5 hours outage in our area too..

  16. Haseeb A (unregistered) on May 16th, 2007 @ 1:17 am

    This is a bad topic. The moment i read it for the first time, KESC woke up… we were in darkness

  17. wasiq (unregistered) on May 16th, 2007 @ 3:10 am

    Thank you!!!!!!!

  18. zeeshan syed (unregistered) on May 16th, 2007 @ 9:27 am

    How dumb can you get? It was only because all the shops/markets/industries and other businesses were dead. Simple. It’s back to NORMAL state again :D

  19. What's going on? (unregistered) on May 16th, 2007 @ 9:38 am
  20. adnan (unregistered) on May 16th, 2007 @ 3:39 pm

    KESC walay Chutti par thay tu switch kaisey band kartay. Chalo mqm ne 3 din me koi kaam tu acha kia :d

  21. Altaf BAI (unregistered) on May 16th, 2007 @ 9:39 pm

    Altaf Bhai k khidmat me Mohabt Bhara Tohfa. Ek Gaana Unki Nazar. “DANDA”

  22. Inspirex (unregistered) on May 16th, 2007 @ 11:11 pm

    The power cuts were avoided because the city has excessive power. Keeping in view a complete shut down of all commercial and industrial areas, this was natural. The city was, literally, overflowing with power.

    If power cuts are not imposed in normal days, this will lead to abnormal fluctuations and load on the generating units, which could cause severe damage.

  23. d0ct0r (unregistered) on May 17th, 2007 @ 1:13 am

    “overflowing with power” you mean to say that energy once produced have to be used same day? and if not used would be wasted? if it was overflowing coz of low consumption due to strike in the city then they could have saved it and used it on a working day?

  24. wasiq (unregistered) on May 17th, 2007 @ 3:58 am

    somebody told me that the german MD of kesc before leaving had prepared a computerized map of karachi’s distribution network specifying the power theft and kunda connections…..and that now the load shedding is done accordingly more in that areas….is it possible….?

  25. Inspirex (unregistered) on May 17th, 2007 @ 11:29 am

    @doctor: Yes.
    The laws of physics state that energy can neither be created, nor destroyed, nor stored. It is always in transit and can be modified to alter its state. The altered state though, may be used as a means for storage. Like rechargeable batteries.

    True, If you are producing power, you have to consume it too. If you dont consume it, it gets dissipated. But the power plants keep running, and fuel keeps getting consumed. Hence the delicate balance between supply and demand.

  26. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on May 17th, 2007 @ 3:40 pm

    The laws of physics state that energy can neither be created, nor destroyed, nor stored

    actually the statment it’s self very political and baised towards aethism. *grin*

  27. Inspirex (unregistered) on May 17th, 2007 @ 5:06 pm

    With all due respect to religious beliefs, the statement is actually fairly true.

    Lets also not forget that this law applies to this mortal and finite universe only :P

  28. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on May 17th, 2007 @ 6:31 pm

    Energy can neither be created, nor destroyed

    I was specifically talking about this “automated” clause which is compatible with sect which doesn’t believe in super force and comes up with things like evolution. :-). How “energy” got entered in this universe? something which is yet not answered properly.

    And No, I was also not talking about hereafter. *grin*.

  29. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on May 17th, 2007 @ 7:24 pm

    chalo bhayee ab karlo galh!

  30. Inspirex (unregistered) on May 17th, 2007 @ 8:46 pm

    Adnan: i am not talking about an act of God here. Im talking about the laws that are followed by energy “in this world”.
    Lets not forget that we did not create these laws, we just discovered them.
    The One who created this universe, also created these laws, as He states in Surah e Rehman.
    And since He created them, He controls them too.
    This discussion, however, is not religious. Its about physics.

  31. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 11:22 am

    Imtiaz, Evolution was also _DISCOVERED_ by scientist who use it to reject the Super Force. Even Carl Segan who is no doubt a great scientist and one of the host of my favorite program COSMOS , comesup with something like that:

    Kindly google a bit about what I said, also about Evolution. the reference you gave of Surah rejects the definition itself that is “created itself”. Whether its physicis or chemistry or biology, all laws goes towards God who did propose religion.

    Don’t take science as SACRED and accurate like religion Islam.

  32. Inspirex (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 12:39 pm

    Adnan: First of all, I am not accountable to you for what I believe.

    Second: Evolution is not a fact. Its a theory. Evolution has no “concrete and irrefutable” proof. It will remain just that. A theory.

    Ill sum it up in more simpler terms for you. here.
    Since the universe was created by the Almighty, all components are subservient to His divine will.

    The Surah mentions that it heavenly bodies follow a fixed path. This fixed path is what we call the orbit. It follows the path by means of a certain framework of rules.

    Similarly, everything in this universe, follows a fixed pattern of function. Light does not bend, and cannot be made to slow down or speed up to a material extent. Gravity exists, because it has been put there, and all objects follow the law of gravity.

    All that the sciences merely do, is help us, understand how these things function. Which, in the greater picture, allows us to appreciate and be even more thankful and submissive to Him.

    Fabi ayyi aalaha, i Rabbikuma, tukazziban.
    Which of the bloessings of the Lord will you deny?

    All sciences help us open our minds greater and deeper. There are signs, for those who are open to them.

  33. Inspirex (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 12:42 pm

    And next time Adnan, please dont make assumptions about ones faith, and or religious beliefs.

    For the record, the Qur’an discourages that too.

  34. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 1:25 pm

    *the topic has gone way off track :-)*

    First of all, I didn’t make any assumption anyone’s or your faith here. How could you figure it out? I think you are starting something very different which I didn’t even talk about.

    he Surah mentions that it heavenly bodies follow a fixed path…….

    And we were talking about Enery,right?

    I don’t understand why re you giving these examples here? are you not assuming that I am here proposing that Quran rejects Science?, If yes then check your own statement which you just made for me that is, And next time Adnan, please dont make assumptions about ones faith

    Nowhere I said you dont believe in Islam or you don’t believe in Science. Every muslim or whoever reads Quran knows that Quran talks about logic and gives statment which were later proof by scientists. For Instance Einstien’s theory of relativity and difference in time frame was already mentioned in Quran. What all I said that definition of energy contradicts Islam thats it

    Please read what I am talking about. Considering Science not sacred doesn’t mean I reject it. Thanks.

    Before the author of the post disable the comments feature. I would rather request u to rather keep it off the site and disucss via mail[if you want,not forcing anyway:-) ]

  35. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 1:27 pm

    and Yes,I know that It was me who started something different and Off Topic here . :-)

  36. Inspirex (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 1:51 pm

    Why does the definition of energy contradict Islam?
    Just because the law states it cannot be created or destroyed?

    But isnt that law subservient to the one who created it? If He created it, he can bend/break it too. Would you not agree?

    These laws are based on our understanding and knowledge. Our understanding, is very miniscule compared to His power and knowledge.

    Am i right?

  37. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 4:01 pm

    But isnt that law subservient to the one who created it

    I don’t think so. However I would like to know how do you explain it? if that’s your point then it does violate definition which you mentioned above.

    I don’t argue about the point that energy can’t be transformed,it’s transformed one form to another like Kinetic to Potential etc.

    There is a similar definition about “matter” that is,it can’t be created nor can be destroyed. Though we as muslims or even christians/jews believe that matter was first creatd by God himself. The scientist argue that matter gets converted into form of energy, no second thought about that but point is how matter itself was able to produce energy? Also God performed action which created universe, God said that Action as “Kun”[to be] but whatever was produced in result of that action mUST needed some external element to perform inner elements[Inside universe] perform properly, that is God did “inject” the initial energy in the universe. therefore in the presence of a Super being who is responsible for everything, I don’t think energy or matter were ‘uncreatable’ as it was said in the definition and it did require external force.

  38. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 4:04 pm

    These laws are based on our understanding and knowledge.

    Which could be wrong too. No?

  39. Inspirex (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 4:17 pm

    matter is also a state of energy. Nuclear power, ie radiation/heat/light etc area result of the coversion of matter to energy.

    When I said ”
    But isnt that law subservient to the one who created it”…it implied the creator of the universe, and all its components, including matter and energy.

    Regarding the creation of the universe, you and I are on the same page. God injected the energy into the earth, causing what forms the basis of the Big Bang theory.

    Though there are multiple theories that speak of the creation of the universe, the big bang theory so far holds the most weight. But question is, what existed before the bang, and what caused the bang? In my opinion, the bang was a result of the injection of energy into nothingness.

    The external force you are referring to, is an act of God, which has the power to supercede any action or law that may seemed to have exist.

    I think adnan, bottom line is, we are both talking about the same thing, in two different perspectives.

    You are bringing aspect of religion, where as I am holding a pure physics perspective.

    Undeniably, the aspect of religion is important, but it does not “generally” affect the laws of physics in everyday life.

  40. Anon (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 7:38 pm

    Back on topic please? Its a supply and demand issue. It can be fixed; I dont know how but a start is removing the kunda system and finding new ways to conserve; better forecasting coming from a better managament at KESC. A gradual replacement of all the equipment, wires, lines as well as taking power lines underground will reduce the outages.

  41. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on May 19th, 2007 @ 10:41 am

    ok Anon. I heard you. INspirex, I personally and then both using wrong forum but no we both are not talking about same thing. Pure Physics or any other science branch is dependant on nature[God]. I as a muslim believe that Islam begins where Science ends. This is why we saw the falure of Aristotle theory about stationary earth and how Gallileo refuted the claim of Aristotle. In modern days, even Einstein’s theory and constant speed of light has been challenged as well.
    Let’s agreed to disagree or better discuss it off the site

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