Looking for SJ

Post by Cy

Dear SJ,

A number of people have been moved by your firsthand account of what happened on 12 May at your hospital. It was probably the single best piece of commentary that has emerged from that day and has been noticed by some international organisations.

Human Rights Watch would like to incorporate your comments in a report on the violence in Karachi on 12 May; however, they need to verify if the story is true. Your identity would be treated as strictly confidential.

If you are hesitant – an understandable position – think about it some more: here is an opportunity for your voice to be heard and your story to be told.


93 Comments so far

  1. Tamed~. (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 4:20 am

    What is going to happen during/after next election?

    God forbid are we moving towards a civil war?

  2. d0ct0r (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 4:42 am

    just one spark and the city will erupt in uncontrollable fire.. tolerance level is too low… too much mistrust… maybe MQM and others should hold a solidarity rally…

  3. ash (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 7:04 am

    absolutely doctor i couldnt agree with you more.

  4. SS (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 8:28 am


    I’ve been through all your posts, trying to fathom your rationale for your “support” for MQM. Not once have you said that you condemn what you “saw” them doing. I agree, as you would, that it’s not a complete picture but what about the part of the picture that you HAVE seen. Why are you in such a need for general condemnation? Why is there a silent cry of denial between your lines. True, they are all the same, or probably worse but have you heard the man (many people’s dear Altaf Bhai) speak? You said in one of your previous posts that you came here for some intellectual argument. Now if you can listen to Altaf Hussain without feeling that this must be the beginning of the end of time, I’m extremely sorry but you forfiet your right to be reason’s flag bearer anymore.

    If you had but once said that yes what they did was wrong inspite of the wrong done to them, I would have been able to relate to your frame of mind. But this senseless, unreasonable support, even bigotry (excuse the word) is beyond me.

    I agree that this senseless butchering of people (and being ingeniously caught on tape) has done MQM far more damage than anyone else but ask yourself this; if they were trapped then there was a trap for them to walk into; if they were exposed, there was something to expose them for!

    Another thing, are you yourself a resident of Karachi? Because I remember reading otherwise (apoloies if I am wrong), I’m extremely sorry but you have as little credibility in commenting on the state of affairs of the city as that guy in NY whom you conveniently discredited.

    Continuing on your apologetic tone of “some-bad-people”-in-a-sea-of-good-type logic; why doesn’t Altaf Hussain get rid of these handful of ruffians. You would agree it shouldn’t be very hard for him considering he can gather ten hundred thousand people on the other end of the telephone line. (A digression…. please don’t consider the number of people to his credit…. its the other way around…. its the mindlessness of the ten hundred thousand)

    Loyalty is a good thing and brotherhood one of the best. But the greatest thing about being a human is that we have reason and we can change. It is not necessary that we must live with acquired prejudices and traditional bias. (I know the argument could go the other way around and you could say I have an acquired prejudice against MQM, but please dont say it since it would be extremely obvious and predictable and anyway I don’t since his mad ranting on the May 15th rally actually brought tears of hopelessness in my eyes. I won’t apologize for my excess sentimentalism either).

    What you seemed to be needing from the other members was the condemnation of other parties. Well I say it; PPP, JI, PML-Q (possibly Musharraf) and the rest are all trash and should be wiped off the face of the earth. Now you do your bit. Condemn MQM because the only way forward and any hope of future lies in comprehending the truth of the present. And I think you are one of the staunch supporters of “the new era”.

  5. Neena (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 9:02 am

    Now can someone tell me, who is responsible for this? Thanks AGIAN for fighting for OUR RIGHTS.

    The three days of strikes and violence amounted to roughly $400 million in lost national income, not to mention an incalculable loss of confidence by foreign investors.

    Read more about this foreign correspondant report here.

  6. Neena (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 9:17 am

    Lots of pictures and video of Karachi riots can be seen here.

  7. SS (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 10:11 am

    “One cannot remain a muhajir in one’s own country, not after 58 years” …… read on


  8. original-faisal (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 10:32 am


    Bravo! Brilliantly written rebuttal
    to Khakan.

    Furthermore, allow me to say that,
    being an English Lit. major, I thank
    you profusely for writing in flawless

  9. Lies (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 11:10 am

    @SS: Good job bring out the inconsistencies in Khakan’s (albeit, feeble) arguments.

  10. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 11:37 am

    I wonder why you people are keep engaging with Pro-MQM people who are not being able to put forward anything sensible? I quit engaging them and I just “enjoy” how you guys are keep arguing with each other :-)

  11. SS (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 11:57 am


    Please allow me to ask one question; if you are not here to resolve conflict and find a solution or even some form of understanding, are you just amusing yourself?

    Another thing, lets not put a frivolous turn to everything, from physics to needlessly lost lives; there are people being ruthlessly murdered. This is as serious as it gets.

    @Faisal&Lies Thanks

  12. Karachi Blogger (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 12:48 pm

    what is the likelyhood that GOP will arrest or harm any of us for venting our views?


  13. ali (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 2:21 pm

    12th may waz 1 of the sad day in pakistan’s history.not only due 2 the blood sheed but the claims which is put on the goverment which waz working day in and day out 4 the betterment of karachi people 1st time in history. my requst 2 all political parties iz that they must not try 2 over react. And goverment should take controll

  14. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 4:07 pm

    SS: my point of view about MQM was quite clear and you would have read this but when he’s just keep supporting his point of view then what magic would you bring that it would change his/others mind?

    Did you read in previous posts about my point of view about MQM?

  15. axiomatic (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 4:49 pm

    Excellent job, now that’s some writing with logic and heart; you made short work of khakan’s flimsy/ignorant/bigoted arguments.
    If you have an iota of sense, shame or humanity, you may like to stop supporting this band of thugs (i hope you are not one of ‘them’ yourself)!
    PS: last line intended in lighter vein

  16. Khakan (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 8:13 pm

    I am glad to see somebody sensible here and appreciate your criticism. I have no problem condemning mqm if they have done anything wrong. The rally was first attacked at grumandir by ANP,JI,PPP and others and what you saw on AAJ was a retaliation whether you accept it or not that is the truth and ppl of karachi are aware of this fact.
    You spent time to go through all my posts but i guess you did not pay attention to other comments against mqm. DO they make any sense to you? What are these guys trying to do? Put Karachi on fire? All the suggestions I read here sounded like let’s start killing mqm workers, send them to hell. You think that is the solution? The same anger was felt by them during the 90s when whole Karachi was suffering. This is just a result of long going oppression. Karachi has been neglected since the birth of Pakistan. Every single party in Pakistan used this city for political gain and when the ppl for Karachi finally stood for their rights they all got together to spread hate against them. Attacked on mohajir bastis in 80s, attack on sohrab goth, pakka qila (same Qadir Maqsi the killer was on TV codenaming may 12..i felt like throwing up), I can go on and on with the list. Karachi lost tolerance because of all these massacres. The point I am trying to make is that whatever happened on may 12 was not an act of terrorism by mqm. It was a clash between political parties and there is a huge difference between a clash and act of terrorism.

    FYI: I do live in karachi but currently in Boston (some personal business) and will be back soon.

    “why doesn’t Altaf Hussain get rid of these handful of ruffians?”
    Well he did and in a result you have HAQIQI and ST. MQM is the only party that has this check and balance system.MQM is the only party that suspends its workers publically and announces in Media.Do you know any other party who does that?
    I accept and understand that some people have bad experiences with mqm, but you need to understand the fact that mqm has thousands of workers from every fileds of life (i.e. educated, uneducated, doctors, lawyers, Actors, Ulma,writers, rich, poors..)and between all these there are traitors and agency injected people. Man its a tough job to control this huge numbers of workers with different backgrounds. I guess this is good enough to prove the roots of mqm in karachi. And on top of all this you have ppl who has no relation with mqm at all but use its name to pressure ppl.

    Sorry guys wanted to write more but gotta leave something for the next time. I am ready to hear back your criticism on all this..Just be decent in your comments plz.

  17. Sohail (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 8:50 pm

    Then i am expecting this time MQM and Altaf Hussain will suspends lot of MQM terrorist, specially those who have been seen on TV live shooting, Did you watch those live shootings by MQM workers? if not let me know i will send you links.
    On aaj tv, i saw a black govt car with siren on hood, supplying guns to mqm workers, its not hard to identify that car and mqm workers holding TT, KK and other guns.
    Everyone knows MQM is in govt from city to provincial, they have those govt car.
    let me know if you want to see those clips.

  18. TURAB (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 9:30 pm

    what aaj tv did not show you!


  19. SS (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 9:33 pm


    An act of terrorism is still terrorism even in retaliation. Subjugation isn’t a justification for an act that incites violence. But that’s just for your benefit; as for myself I neither believe that it was a retaliation or can condone it by some other justification.

    Lets move on to Karachi being ignored part. Firstly, thats the oldest trick in the book; make people feel sorry for themselves and rule. Divide and rule even. A leader whose only credential is a “persecution mania” of the highest order does not deserve to be a free citizen (which he isnt’t, atleast in this country and soon hopefully wouldn’t be in the UK as well). As for facts; “Karachi has 10% of Pakistan’s population and owns 70% of Pakistan’s wealth”, not underservedly ofcourse. It also has one of the biggest share in annual expenditure due to the need for maintaining infrastructure. If Karachi had to be ignored, new industries would have been built in Faisalabad or somewhere else in Punjab where the adequate infrastructure exists as well.

    Secondly, the people of Karachi are no more ignored than Baluchi’s or Pathan’s or the rest of the Sind. But do you side with Dera Bugti when they blow up the sui pipelines? Do you justify that.

    As for checks and balances; there are various theories. One of which is that rotation in leadership exists to eliminate the possibility of leaders forming their own constituency in their areas. Instead of commending it we should realise that it’s an inevitable betrayal of a mafia group.
    And when I talked about getting rid of those handful of ruffians, I did not have targeted killing in my mind at all.

    Your saying that we have to understand that it’s hard to rule so many people. Well if you are incompetent, then don’t do the job. It is not imperative that MQM HAS to represent Karachi.

    There are many more issues that I can bring up like for example the comparison with Kashmir and anti-state remarks but I think it’s better not to go down that road.

    Your condemnation wasn’t a condemnation; it was more of a justification. I don’t intend to argue further since your loyal resolve far exceeds my belief in the human mind; a free, independent human mind.

    P.S You never mentioned Altaf’s speech!

  20. axiomatic (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 9:42 pm

    A wrong doing by any person or party does not justify a greater evil at the hands of the wronged person or party. Do you mean that MQM did it as a revenge on May 12?
    I am equally abhorrent of all other parties including PPP, PML, MMA andANP. However, on May 12 what happened is abundantly clear to those who LIVE HERE IN KARACHI.
    I personally know that firarms and ammunitions were stored in MQM unit offices the evening before May 12 carnage. The law enforcement agencies bariccaded the routes, and 3-4 buses along with aound 50 mototorcyclists totting firearms and waving MQM flags were seen taking control of area between Drig Road and Airport at aron 1030 am that morning.

    That MQM was solely responsible for killings and violence on May 12 is abundantly clear to everyone. Thanks to its corrupted leasership, MQM has successfully evolved into a mercenary force that can act at the behest of different regimes to unleash hell against that regime’s opponents in different ways. Unfortunately, it stopped standing for rights of Mohajirs, or for that matter, any citizen of Karachi a long time ago. MQM DOES NOT represent Mohajirs in its present form, neither does it represent anyone else except those who have an agenda based on vengeance and/or ignorance. Nevertheless, it can still be saved if they accept all responsibility and Altaf (bhai) resigns from it’s leadership.

  21. SOHAIL (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 9:57 pm


    Come on, what are you talking about the resignation from Altaf Hussain, impossible! then How will he survive? bhooka mar jaayga! then who the hell will give him bhatta….!

  22. axiomatic (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 10:04 pm

    he has to die one day. at least this way he’ll die respectfully and not like a d o g. thx!!

  23. Khakan (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 10:06 pm

    Karachi has 10% of Pakistan’s population and owns 70% of Pakistan’s wealth”, I think there is a typo, karachi does not own 70% rather it adds 70% revenue to the total wealth of pakistan but in return it does not get 70%. Lets not compare Karachi with balochistan and Sarhad because wheter you accept it or not the truth is that people migrated to Karachi were educated and professionals which was not the case in Balochistan and Sarhad. What do you say about moving the capital from Karachi to Islamabad(it was a jungle that time) what about moving the naval head quarter to punjab when the port is in karachi..Really i dont wanna go into all this becasue the lists will never end. The truth is there do research and you will find what has happend to the karachi.

    Please dont twist my words (“hat it’s hard to rule so many people) I said its hard to control/manage this large number of people.Please dont give wrong impression here.

    The Kashmir remarks were not anti-state remarks. i was just mentioning a reality which everybody knows in pakistan. Dont you know that what happens there?? lets leave it at that in the interest of our nation.

  24. axiomatic (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 10:15 pm

    thx!!he has to die one day. at least this way he’ll die respectfully and not like a traitor.

  25. Khakan (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 10:16 pm

    @Sohail, Axi
    Happy Dreaming

  26. axiomatic (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 10:20 pm

    i think you’re beyond repair man. as someone wrote in these blogs, ‘may altaf bhai have mercy on your soul’. good night and good bye.

  27. axiomatic (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 10:26 pm

    no offence intended

  28. axiomatic (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 10:49 pm

    sorry yar, did’nt get it. this is a ff (fast forward) clip of regular people getting off buses for MQM rally very peacefully and securely. it has been specifically tailored (edited) to support MQM point of view, with voice over of gun shots.
    being and advertising man i can tell that this clip is a 3rd rate attempt speaking professionally. MQM supporters may like to take help from many highly professional animation studios in india for this purpose, because this video is definitely 3rd rate and doesnt show anything.

  29. SS (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 10:51 pm


    Sir with due respect, the truth that you keep referring to is your own opinion. Hardly anyone here agrees with you but you keep mentioning it as it were your private domain. Please come down your pedestal and give others some credit of knowing about the ground reality as well.

    About Karachi not being the capital anymore. I’d only say it’s just nonsense. Would you rather, this enormous population could be blown up in a wink of an eye. And which country doesn’t have its armed force headquarters in its capital. Pentagon isn’t by the sea yet it houses the US Navy aswell.

    Are you trying to say since Baluchistan and Sarhad have lesser litracy rate they have lesser rights as citizens of this nation. What about Punjab then? Since it has the a highest number of educated people, Sind shouldn’t mind being ignored. What is your logic. That you were wronged? What about in 91(excuse the lack of research again) when MQM was in power? Was there lesser bloodshed? Were the wronged avenged?

    And you have the audacity to talk about the interest of the nation! “Give us our rights or India or anyother country will intervene”. Are these in the interest of nation.

    That is all I have to say.

    @Adnan, you were right. This IS a lost cause.

  30. JAFRI (unregistered) on May 18th, 2007 @ 11:46 pm

    An interesting story by the doctor and living in Karachi for past 20 years or so I can attest to some of its honesty. So many comments, conspiracies, ethnic attacks, news but no one ever shed light on why was all this happening? Who was benefiting from all this chaos? I will request all you educated people out there to think beyond the obvious and try to be objective. The way I think of this incident with same biases as my doctor brother I don’t like to believe that only one party was responsible for whatever happened on May 12. I have seen with my own eyes activists of various political parties firing, shooting and burning public properties therefore no one here is innocent. So who is a bigger culprit if that is the question may be MQM, may be the chief justice or may be all those hidden hands that are benefiting from this anarchy. For the author’s information who I am guessing is relatively new in to public service these incidents happen every now and then in emergencies at Abbasi, Civil and Jinnah. I have witnessed a few cases myself when doctors were manhandled and when doctors let escape murderers free, when doctors brokered and made money. I’m not blaming any one but think about the root cause why are we so deeply embedded in politics of convenience. We support ideas, thoughts and leaders of parties who are convenient to our interests. We no longer think about principles, principles of morality, our values are corrupt why no one stood against a dictator why don’t karachiites take active part in politics why does MQM always win? It is because they are the only option karachiite has , I will never elect some one like Amin Fahim who doesn’t even have time to visit his constituency let alone live there. We elect MQM because at least they are from amongst us the citizens of Karachi, who knew of Abbas Jafri ,Abid Ali Amung , Moin Khan or Kanwar Khalid Yunus they came out of Karachi with no associations to any feudal family or bureaucrat or army. If people are really concerned about Karachi than think of an alternative to MQM do some thing -exemplify and not just criticize.

  31. SS (unregistered) on May 19th, 2007 @ 12:12 am


    Beautiful Logic! A villain from your own community is better than a reasonable human from another. National Interest again.

  32. BitterTruth (unregistered) on May 19th, 2007 @ 5:03 am

    How much organized the crimes was can been seen here
    Attack On AAJ 1
    Also part 2, and 3 there.

  33. TURAB (unregistered) on May 19th, 2007 @ 11:16 am

    jafri.. well said…..

  34. Abdullah (unregistered) on May 20th, 2007 @ 11:52 am

    Please read an interesting article, another experience, another view


  35. sooban (unregistered) on May 20th, 2007 @ 2:41 pm

    i hold MQM responsible for it, not only because they were on the street shooting with M16’s , sub automatics and repeaters. but rather this was a day which could have been avoided had they dealt with it in a mature manner.
    they handled it like idiots with guns not like responsible elected ppl, doesnt matter who gave them votes.

    it is their city as much as its mine.
    and they jus betrayed karachi.

  36. Omar R. Quraishi (unregistered) on May 20th, 2007 @ 7:26 pm

    well SJ — i mentioned your account in my weekly column for the news — didnt know you’re initials were SJ



    Laugh or cry — or just die

    By Omar R. Quraishi

    One doesn’t know whether to laugh or cry at some of the things that have happened in the country in the past couple of weeks. What is worse: the mayhem and carnage of May 12 or the way in which the provincial and federal governments allowed it to happen?

    The MQM has blamed the opposition and the chief justice’s visit for the violence (echoed the same day as the May 12 carnage by President Musharraf at that most inopportune rally held outside Parliament House in Islamabad) while the rest of the country has blamed the MQM, Sindh and federal governments for allowing its ally a free hand wreak havoc on its opponents. The party has also been accused of showing on May 12 that it had not changed its old ways. TV channels have been caught in the crossfire — literally — and the residents of the city are still unable to digest what has happened.

    This is true particularly for those young enough to not have seen or have a lasting memory of what Karachi was like just 15 years ago. I remember in the early 1990s, on visits during the summer in between semesters, there came a time when you couldn’t drive around in some decent neighbourhoods without risking being shot at — so the trick was that your head only remained high enough (above the steering) to ensure that you could see the road ahead and no more.

    One would have thought that such days would be a thing of the past, but one was proven wrong by what happened on May 12.

    The following is quoted verbatim from Karachi Metblogs — sensibly the person who has written it has chosen not to reveal his/her identity:

    “I am a doctor. I work at a government-run, large and well-known hospital in Karachi. I have been at work for more than 32 hours. I attended to people with multiple gunshot wounds but nothing struck my soul more than what nine fully armed workers of a political party along with two sector office-bearers did [on May 12]. They tried to drag out a wounded man who had been brought in an ambulance to the hospital saying, presumably to ‘finish’ him off. When my junior resident tried to prevent that from happening, he was slapped by these men. Me and my junior were both dragged by these men to an alley and left there. The men, armed with shotguns, pistols and AK-47s, then went in to the lobby, presumably to look for the wounded man. I ran out to the Rangers and a police ASI standing at some distance from my hospital’s main gate asking for their help. I was told: ‘Jaante ho in logoun ko, phir bhi kyun lartay ho. Hamain upar say order hai kay inn ko char bajay tak karnay do jo karna hai. Char bajay kay baad dekhainge’. I immediately called a friend in Bohrapir who is related to a senior member of this party. Five minutes later, the armed men received a call on their cell phones and they left. One of them was wearing a bandana and threatened me as he left saying: ‘Naam dekh liya hai tera. Koi shor sharaba karnay kee zururat nahi hai baad main — warna samajh ja kya hoga’. He also took my junior resident’s mobile phone saying ‘chikna set hai’. The man they had come looking for had been shot more than once in the head.”

    Fast forward to May 16 (when this was being written) and the federal government through the ministry of information and broadcasting placed an advertisement in the national press with the pictures of the president and prime minister looking at you.

    The advert had the following text (excerpts): ‘Let’s Give the City A Healing Touch! – Karachi belongs to all of us. On the 12th of May the unthinkable happened: So many valuable lives were lost at the hands of the (sic) merciless killers who are humans only in name. They are the common enemies of humanity and of Pakistan . Let us resolve to not fall prey to their machinations. Let us resolve to fight this common enemy: Not through violence, but through unity in or ranks and through complete rejection of violence (bold as in the ad).’

    So where were you on May 12, Mr President and Mr Prime Minister? Oh yes, now we remember, you were both addressing a rally in Islamabad that evening, a rally that was more of a mela, with large sections of the apparent rent-a-crowd dancing. Normally one doesn’t have a problem in the least with people dancing but when surely it cannot reflect too well on you if you happen to be the head of state and head of government when this happens at the same time as your largest city is in flames?

    The writer is Op-ed Pages Editor of The News.

    Email: omarq@cyber.net.pk

  37. SELF (unregistered) on May 21st, 2007 @ 5:45 pm

    Our SJ is on PPP site as well; http://www.ppp.org.pk/Other/12-5-2007.html

  38. SELF (unregistered) on May 21st, 2007 @ 6:03 pm

    SJ has single headedly done so much damage to MQM than many of the parties put together.

  39. Naeem (unregistered) on May 23rd, 2007 @ 7:48 pm

    The people living out of Karachi can not really comprehend the actual situation and circumstances.
    Dear Pakistanis, dont believe that all those MQflag holders are really from MQM. If we are living in 21st century, then we must know that live videos can have ready made characters…did you not see long bearded gun holders also showing off MQM flags to the media? These are not so capable of getting good number of ppl on the streets of Karachi, but they could easily make a mess out of it. We saw ourselves their trucks on Rashid Minhas Road moving towards Drig Rd flyover,raising slogans and shooting blatantly. Who else would have opened fire on MQM rallies coming there from Drig colony? Ask the real people, you ll get to the ground realities.

  40. Naeem (unregistered) on May 24th, 2007 @ 12:59 am

    For those who are blaming MQM for being terrorist and trying to prove it by showing only images of MQM flag holders firing around, here is an eye opener for you… See this video and your views will never be same again.See almost all parties’workers firing blatantly around the city. Go to youtube, posted by adnanshaikhs,
    title:Karachi killing on 12 May,2007

  41. Khakan (unregistered) on May 24th, 2007 @ 1:05 am

    Please post the link for the clip
    long live mqm
    long live karachi

  42. Naeem (unregistered) on May 29th, 2007 @ 9:19 pm

    See the real culprits of PPP/ANP/MMA firing around the city streets on May 12, 2007 on:
    Go to Youtube, search : Karachi killing on 12 May, 2007.

  43. NAEEM (unregistered) on June 2nd, 2007 @ 12:24 am

    The basis for the hate is control of Karachi, which could not be taken over by Waderas/ Chowdhuries/Sardars/etc. Karachiites elected educated middle class representatives, which is hardly common in other parties and areas. Its people are the most literate and aware of their rights. They have discarded feudal system and they are being punished for that.

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