Shahra-e-Faisal prepares for yet another clash

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Looks like people are learning from their elders, a culture of violence. Tonight, Its people from Mahmoodabad using force, blocking one way (road towards Nursery from Baloch bridge) and arranging another event of fire, protest and clash.

A junior who missed his dinner at home picked another senior’s car to get biryani from Karachi Foods when few people tried to stop his car. He didn’t take a chance & rushed through. He saw police reaching & we are for a showdown again tonight. I hope this be controlled before it gets out of hand.

23 Comments so far

  1. Humair Anwar (unregistered) on June 22nd, 2007 @ 2:55 am

    I hope this time government isnt thinking of boosting the issuewithout taking any serious notice. Hope ‘POLICE’ is there at the SPOT…


  2. SS (unregistered) on June 22nd, 2007 @ 3:20 am

    @ Humair Anwar

    Hope ‘POLICE’ is there at the SPOT… to make things even wrose :P


  3. Zeeshan Syed (unregistered) on June 22nd, 2007 @ 4:18 am

    3:00AM and I am on generator. It’s been a terrible day in terms of Power Failures. One after another. My wife is in Defence where she has had no light ever since it started to rain. That makes it good 9 hours without electricity.

    I luckily escaped riots at Defence last night and I can safely say that this has a Domino-effect. It will only escalate. I am afraid that a day will come when people from poor areas will “attack” the areas where people who could afford generators/UPS live and steal their power generating tools and/or damage their properties.

    I think KESC should be disolved in WAPDA. Why do we Karachiites have to face 10 hours of load shedding when other parts of the country only experience 30 mins of the same case!? This question is beyond me!

    Busharraf has been in power for some years now and the dude didn’t even see power crises coming? Such is our planning. Tsk tsk tsk!


  4. Saad Ibrahim Lakhany (unregistered) on June 22nd, 2007 @ 6:02 am

    well apart from the load shedding another big problem is the “phase” going out, in our area today is the third consecutive day when the phase got out, the day before yesterday when the phase got out i complained on 118 but there was no response till 3 hour then i went to tipu sultan customer service centre and came to know the 118 guys have not forwarded the complain to theze guyz and they told me to wait as the car is now gone but roaming in my area i found their car and told them the situation and they told me that they didnt got any complain from tipu sultan WTF!!! and today after 8 hours they restored the electricity


  5. tif (unregistered) on June 22nd, 2007 @ 7:19 am

    First of all, I justify the genuine cause to these riots; as for who is to be blamed, for all this (In reference to the comment entered by Saad Ibrahim Lakhany at June 22, 2007 06:02 AM), its easy to be blame people for these kind of things, I will discuss this later on,; but first you should understand and be fully aware of the situation of KESC at the moment, the thing is since NOW KESC has been privatized, WAPDA and the Pakistani govt has no association with it, therefore nobody can not just get up one day and simply decide to dissolve KESC into WAPDA or any other govt power generating company. What is worth arguing about is that the Saudi group who took control over KESC, promised the govt of Pakistan that they would be making an investment of $400 million dollars into it; but sadly this never took place, and neither will it in the near future, as this party has already dissolved there shares of KESC into the open market.
    Speaking of load shedding increasing this year to a chaotic extent, well the reason is pretty simple, as KESC was govt. owned previously, it used to borrow electricity from WAPDA every year, and never pay back, since both these organizations were govt owned, there was less point in fighting for the money; BUT now since KESC has no association with the govt. it quite obvious that WAPDA would demand there money first in return of there electricity, which they obviously dont have for the simple reason of KESC going into a massive loss.
    And as for who to blame, YOU should be blaming every single person living Karachi. Its common knowledge that electricity is as easy and simple to steal as anything. The notorious “Kunda” system has now increased to a very lethal limit, and all these people rioting should consider this, and NOT burn cars and destroy property of innocent citizen, INSTEAD go ahead and deal with the group of people using the “Kunda” system so openly and proudly along with Electricity Meter tampering, and I am sure of the fact that each and everyone of these guys know at least One person in there area whose enjoying “Free ki Bijli” while you all suffer.
    By the way, compare the results of the 12th May Riots, to the riots taking place these days, notice that this is a very BIG issue, and NONE of the political leaders are now playing and active role in the call for strikes/action against KESC, which really proves to the extent these political leaders can goto for there “OWN” personal agendas rather than doing whats best for the people.
    So moral of the story here should be, is that the sooner you start of making the “Kunda” system using group of people’s lives along with the electricity meter tampering group of people’s lives HELL and publicly humiliating them in there area, the sooner they will start off paying there bills honestly and KESC would start making a profit, and start off with buying electricity from other resources in times of load shedding.


  6. Balma (unregistered) on June 22nd, 2007 @ 9:18 am

    Bhaiyou’n aur larkiyou’n,

    Karachi’s population is getting out of control. People have huge families. Even Aladin’s magic lamp can not produce enough energy.

    WAPDA is probably as, if not more, inefficient as KESC. Also, besides the people using Kunda system, people who have money are stealing electricity from people who can’t buy UPS systems. This is just the beginning. If I remember correctly, Mahmood Sham or someone wrote about 20 years ago that ghurbat iss qadaar ho jaae gee keh muflis aur naachaar doosro’n keh moonh say luqmah cheen kar khaa jaae’n gae. We are almost getting there. Burning of food places on University Road in the past and Ittehad Road recently is just the beginning. Tomorrow it will be Dolman and Park Tower and that slum called Zamzama. Watch out for Inqilaab!

    Step 1: Immediate ban or early marriages.

    Step 2: Education

    Step 3: Infrastructure Investment

    Step 4: Confiscation of money / assets of looters and khasooTers who have stolen billions in the form of rishvat (it is now called commission).

    Step 5: Strict enforcement of rule of law. Whether one is chief justice or a barely educated fauji, budnazir or NoSharif, Altaf or Imran.

    Otherwise, get ready for step 0 = afraa tafree and civil break down. Kitnay chaukidaar rakho gae?


  7. Ali (unregistered) on June 22nd, 2007 @ 11:20 am

    Well, all i blame for the current crises is the people who are stealing electricity. My neighbour he is running like 4 AC’s and his bill is reverse (i dont know how it works but he is billed nominal around 500 Rs or even less) So, if we stop using 2 ton AC’s and coolers then whole city can get proper electricity.

    I would rather demand a task force who raid all over city and gov should impose 50000 fine on kundas.

    I dont know how this should work i havnt been to pakistan since 2 years but i can hope that this city over come all these problems.


  8. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on June 22nd, 2007 @ 11:54 am

    Immediate ban or early marriages.

    early marriages in Karachi? are you crazy?

    Karachi is occupied more by outsiders(people from other provinces+afghans).


  9. amin polani (unregistered) on June 22nd, 2007 @ 12:42 pm

    All the people using airconditioners just use two hours less each day and the loadshedding will be sure be less brutal.


  10. Jamash (unregistered) on June 22nd, 2007 @ 12:58 pm

    *Sigh* Our police is seriously outnumbered …

    @ Protesters of our city: Please bhi, the whole of Karachi is already suffering from the power breakdowns, don’t take away our peace as well.


  11. axiomatic (unregistered) on June 22nd, 2007 @ 3:09 pm

    @Balma
    China has world’s biggest population. I dont think anyone there has heard of load-shedding. Rather, they are going to provide electricity free for all industry very soon.

    Almost all European countries are today offering extra incentives to their people for producing more number of babies. They are unnerved by the “graying” of population phenomenon, and are desperately seeking to increase their numbers. Same is the case with Israel.

    Failing to properly train, develop and manage the population is no justification for controlling it.

    Believe me, this failure on part of our rulers has nothing to do with population or the lack of it. There are African countries with population mere tenth part of Pakistan. does that mean they are very prosperous? No sir, they are haunted by famines, wars and genocide. All that matters is how a population/society is governed.

    Your discourse sounds like “if you dont have enough bread to eat, why dont you kill a couple of your children so that you should be prosperous”


  12. Zeeshan Syed (unregistered) on June 22nd, 2007 @ 4:33 pm

    I must say that I agree with axiomatic. Well said brother!

    And Adnan Siddiqi, for the first time, I think you said the right thing! Bravo!


  13. axiomatic (unregistered) on June 22nd, 2007 @ 5:09 pm

    @TIF

    Thanks for educating us.

    One of my friends once told me about an experiment held at Harvard. In the experiment setting, there were basically two persons involved. One was always an actor, and the other would be an regular person picked through sampling the society.

    In the experiment, the regular guy was asked to apply electric shocks to the ‘actor’ who was separated from the regular guy through a glass wall.

    Electrodes were connected to the actor and the whole setting was very believable. Except that there were no shocks and the actor was merely acting as if he is receiving electric shocks.

    The regular guy could control the length and intensity of these shocks as he watched the actor writhing in pain and could also hear him screaming.

    The regular guy was given instructions remotely in a cold and authoritative manner, to increase the intensity and duration of shocks.

    They were stunned to find out that none of the subjects (regular guy) flatly refused or protested. They all kept increasing the shocks till the ‘actor’ was seemingly dead.

    The experiment was focused at how people respond to authority. One of the many things it proved was that people do not relate to the pain and suffering of others, if they are not subjected or threatened by it.

    The people who sold KESC, those who own it now, and those who are responsible for planning, operation and performance live in no fear of losing their electric power. The same argument is true for everything else where those responsible are separated from the results of their management.

    Because of the same reason, our rulers and so called leaders are simply unable to relate to the sufferings of a common man.


  14. Jaad Syed (unregistered) on June 22nd, 2007 @ 5:32 pm

    well
    those people who are saying that KESC should be merged into Wapda need to take a look in the Past !!
    the performance of KESC detereoted only after it was merged with Wapda back in the 80’s before that time it was a well functional organisation , which served the needs of the metropolis quite nicely!\

    and about the current owners!
    Well they dont have a Magic Wand by which they they can improve the workings of this ” Khasta HAal “: organization overnightly !!
    \
    it will take time !!

    As far as I can see they do have improved a lot !

    I remeber when I visited Karachi back in 1997 there were load sheddings of 1 to 2 mdays ! two to three times in the summer!! \

    The situation now adays istn that bad as it used to be!!


  15. Abdullah (unregistered) on June 22nd, 2007 @ 6:22 pm

    Sorry, it is totally irrelevent, but i surprised that there is no single post regarding Salman Rushdee issue.

    Pls read a column regarding this,

    http://kashifhafeez.com/mazameen_large.php?path=2007-06-20&img=kh_articles/large/2007-06-20.gif


  16. Balma (unregistered) on June 22nd, 2007 @ 7:37 pm

    You guys who think population explosion in Karachi has nothing to do with all the problems faced by people in Karachi are fooling yourselves.

    Before mentioning China as an example, or even India, Please realize it is not their over population that led to their recent phenominal growth. It is the number of Physics and Maths Phds they produce. It is their technically qualified work force which made the difference. How many Ph.D.s does Pakistan produce in Physics and MAths? One, Zero, -5,? What? How many PhDs Pakistan produces in Engineering? Zero? OK screw science and engineering – How many PhDs Pakistan produces in Urdu or English or Pashto or History or Geography? Probably less than 5 per year? One does not need expensive lab equipment for PhD in liberal arts…
    Then, how come there is no culture of education in Pakistan? Sirf bachaay banaanay per zore hae!
    LaRkee baarah saal kee huee or oos kee shadi/ mangni kee fikar ho gayee…no one is interested in Education.

    And those who are suggesting that Western Europe promotes population growth…yes, they do but they are almost hundred percent literate – minus the uneducated ones who show up from Pakistan etc.
    Yes, Europeans can afford to feed few more babies. PAkistanis can’t even feed the current population.


  17. Balma (unregistered) on June 22nd, 2007 @ 7:46 pm

    * Adnan writes:

    early marriages in Karachi? are you crazy?

    Karachi is occupied more by outsiders(people from other provinces+afghans).

    **** My comment

    Well, I was trying to be politically correct and didn’t want to start another ethnic war on KMB!

    Also, PK Govt, if there is such a beast, should develop other cities in Pakistan. How come Hyderabad (Sindh) is not making any progress? Why is Sukker so screwed up? Why no facilities in Bahavalpur? How come all the Saraikees are roaming around in Karachi? Why no jobs for them in Multan? Why no universities and factories in Sarhad. How come largest slums of Karachi are populated by pathans? what is going on ? Not Marvin Gay, I am asking this question.

    Besides a ban on early marriages in KArachi, there should be an immediate ban on any heavy industry set up within 100 miles of Karachi. KArachi is not mini-Pakistan. Karachi should not be made mini-Pakistan. People who want to make some mini-Pakistan…they should go to Islamabad.

    KArachi should attract educated and maaldaar people from other parts of Pakistan. Karachi should become financial center and services center of Pakistan. Heavy inudstry should be in Chakwal, not in Karachi. Give me your educated and well-off, keep the uneducated one to yourself…in case they build a statue of liberty kind of thing for Karachi…that should be the motto —


  18. X (unregistered) on June 22nd, 2007 @ 9:47 pm

    @BALMA
    you sound quite out of touch. First come to Karachi and live here yourself. door ki BS achi nahi hoti.

    nawaz, benazir, and altaf are doing the same shit. they live there and BS here.. u r not one of them are you?


  19. Balma (unregistered) on June 22nd, 2007 @ 9:53 pm

    I am smarter than Navaz Sharif, less jazbati than Altaf, but Budnazir…? That was an insult! She should be hung upside down. One of the biggest liars Pakistan had the misfortune of producing.


  20. X (unregistered) on June 22nd, 2007 @ 10:24 pm

    and Sir/Ma’m, whaat about this “door ki bullshit” that you have been doing?

    how would you asnwer that?


  21. Kashif (unregistered) on June 22nd, 2007 @ 10:40 pm

    People have now got the taste of violence. While their suffering and frustration is genuine, burning tyres, blocking roads and harassing others is not permissible. But, as now they have got the taste of violence and have seen things happen after they play a mess with the roads (lights were off for 12 hours near panorama center, saddar, they burned tyres and lights were back shortly) – get ready for more violence in days to come.

    After 12th may, my fear of civil war is increased. Allah forbid if anything happened to the state, Karachi will literally go to the dogs.


  22. axiomatic (unregistered) on June 22nd, 2007 @ 11:20 pm

    Balma
    You dont need to say what you are, it shows:)


  23. Chinese (unregistered) on June 23rd, 2007 @ 5:01 am

    I believe we should rent our nation to the chinese… although our population will quadruple yet we may manage to have some decent policies and systems



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