Attiya Dawood at T2F

attiya.jpg In a string of cultural events organized by T2F we are in for a round of poetry reading, this time by Attiya Dawood and simultaneously also an exhibition of Abro’s paintings.

Date: Sunday, 1st July 2007
Time: 6:00 pm – 7:00 pm
Entry Fee: Rs. 100
Venue: The Second Floor

39 Comments so far

  1. nisha (unregistered) on June 27th, 2007 @ 6:30 pm

    seriously stop!


  2. Sajid (unregistered) on June 27th, 2007 @ 6:37 pm

    and the sequel continues….lets rename this blog

    poet.karachi.metblogs.com

    or yea much better idea

    t2f.karachi.metblogs.com

    i don’t see a reason for t2f to have a separate blog, they already have the whole karachi metblog?

    Also it seems like the intellectual capacity ends at t2f and poetry….a poetic city in which we live, right?


  3. Sajid (unregistered) on June 27th, 2007 @ 6:43 pm

    Apart from this, which coffee blend is used at t2f?

    I am doing some research collecting the coffee bean and blend information along with its origin. Any help will be appreciated.


  4. Teeth Maestro (unregistered) on June 27th, 2007 @ 6:59 pm

    I think people must realize that Karachi Metroblog is a blog about events in Karachi – this Attiya Dawod event is a cultural event happening in Karachi and deserves a post on the blog.

    Its not about marketing or promotion of one business or another but quite simply they are hosting this event at their place, taking a very positive initiative to re-introduce these types of events back into our daily life, many may argue against this but I strongly feel that this post comes onto KMB with it own weight. I assure you if other cultural centers update us, none of KMB bloggers would hesitate a moment to update this blog with the event. I think, apart from the initial post announcing T2F all the subsequent posts have been about such events and practically none per se about the coffee there

    Please also note that during the event their coffee shop does not serve AT ALL, so its not about attracting business, but yes they do ask for a cover charge of Rs100 which I feel is just minimal administration charges. I in fact would be more positive about supporting these initiatives as we the people of Karachi have forgotten the rich culture we had in the past lets try to re-create it as much as possible, and if we cant do it lets not shoot down others who are trying their best…. Keep it up T2F


  5. Salman A. (unregistered) on June 27th, 2007 @ 7:01 pm

    btw, whats wrong with someone making an announcement or promoting their business here on KMB? What goes of your father janabe aali?

    ‘jiyo and jeenay do’ ever heard of that?

    these are muslims of today- busy pulling ohters’ legs…… shame on us..


  6. Sajid (unregistered) on June 27th, 2007 @ 8:26 pm

    I think people must realize that Karachi Metroblog is a blog about events in Karachi

    Thats what i wanted to reinstate, its a blog about Karachi events, not just t2f events…


  7. Zeeshan Syed (unregistered) on June 27th, 2007 @ 9:50 pm

    I don’t see any problem with posts regarding T2F or any other event being held at any other place. I just can’t stand it when someone posts a video of empty pipes or a post with PERSONAL political views OR a post where people share what they normally wonder in their leisure hours!


  8. Ramla A. (unregistered) on June 27th, 2007 @ 10:49 pm

    Here’s the deal: most media outlets RECEIVE press releases, invites, and free tickets etc. to an event. Even for paid journalists whose work related costs (logistics, camera, reel) are covered by the employer AND in addition they get a salary, these press releases are the major source of info on the “happenings.”

    Many smart people announce their event in advance, and major companies/projects/events have media coordinators. Believe it or not, the world of media is often so hectic and fast-paced, a journalist or even an assignment desk editor doesn’t know of all tiny things happening in the world. They decide things quickly, and usually publicize events on which they receive PROPER, well-formatted info.

    Bloggers are often unpaid. They pay for their own camera and transport, and usually stick to their own circle unless they are hired as paid bloggers. Even then, bloggers are, more often than not, chosen to report on their own lifestyle, opinion, and circle of life – which is what sets blogs apart from mainstream journalism.

    Unlike most events/groups that send a poor write-up AFTER the event or hours before it, and expect journalists to do their part of the job (which never happened nor will ever happen), T2F just happens to alert a large mailing list well ahead of time. So did Black Fish/ Saad Haroon – which is why you’d see every other blog covering them. AND BLOGGERS ARE NOT SITTING IN ONE ROOM getting stories assigned by an editor. They check mail, get an SMS, see something in the street, get an idea – and just blog away.

    If one reads and believes a blog service for which they don’t even pay, they must understand not to expect mainstream media-like prowess from blogs. If one wants live, streaming coverage, fact-checked and all – they ought to turn back to paid mainstream media. That having said, bloggers have a responsibility to be responsible, but they usually can’t go out on a limb for some pretty practical reasons.


  9. nisha (unregistered) on June 27th, 2007 @ 10:53 pm

    I totally agree with Sajid as I don’t have a problem seeing whats happening in karachi, thats the reason why I log in . But you TM mindlessly are promoting just one place , a place which is an upstart and it is not ethical to do so as this place is in dire need of publicity. They should put ads in paper or television OR post on boards dedicated to businesspromotions. IT IS NOT THE ONLY PLACE where something is happening in Karachi but you my friend really make it seem so. Post as frquantly about other places too then to justify your accessive postings about this place. This board is a place to get the feel of the city, not of a particular coffee place. As a Muslim you say right? at least be honest and upfront as a Muslim about what you are doing, You are the one bieng underhanded so pls dont bring our religion into it, it seems to be the easiest path to do so nowadays.


  10. maneezeh (unregistered) on June 27th, 2007 @ 11:35 pm

    Nisha – your anger would have been correct if you did not have some facts mixed up. T2F is a non-profit NGO that has been set up by committed activists we have met at many Human Rights, Peace and other rallies. It has a large enough mailing list to fill its 40-50 seats at events without any desperate need for more publicity. Ofcourse, there are other places where things are happening and if TM gets the info he will post those too, I think. I have known T2F to promote events being held by others by putting up their posters. It has also made it possible for many of us to buy literature and CDs from other NGOs whose material is never given space by bookshops, Let’s wish them success and hope other people will be inspired to open similar spaces in other parts of Karachi. I think you should meet some of the people there some day.


  11. A for [pine]apple (unregistered) on June 28th, 2007 @ 12:31 am

    Ohh … I didnt knew Abro’s a painter as well … I wish there’s some place like T2F in here too … laggay rahein doctor sahab :)


  12. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on June 28th, 2007 @ 12:38 am

    bhai itna sara tumne likha,simple ye likh detey k we are the authors of this blog so we will do whatever we want, you guys just buzz off!

    I wonder what’s the purpose of that website called Danka? why the owner of t2f is unable to add entry there in karachi category(http://www.danka.com.pk/karachi/)? i just visited the site and found out that there are many events in current week. KMB just gives impression that only t2f is involved in “cultural event” which is wrong. If you guys are so obsessed with t2f then why don’t you add the website link in KMB blogroll? people would keep visiting it anyway.

    @maneezeh, today the term “non-profitable NGO” sounds very funny because most of the NGOs in past were involved in different kind of corruption including financial one but that is a seperate debate. Nobody sayin t2f would be a bad place but t2f is not the only place in Karachi and that’s the main point which sajid tried to raise. even t2f is run by angels,it doesn’t mean they get extrq coverage.

    just my PKR 2.0 otherwise we are like awam of Pakistan which is usually never heared by managment :-)


  13. SHAFIQ (unregistered) on June 28th, 2007 @ 1:02 am

    The point totally ignored is the insensitivity with regards to the timing of: “Don’t let yesterday’s rain get you down head on over to [T2F] …. today and let it loose…” (OPEN MIC FOR THE BRAIN AT THE T2F – June 24 Post) while a tragedy of death and destruction was still unraveling. This is yet another case of having teeth, but not the heart and soul. This sort of smugness is a kind of extremism and misplaced liberalism that is in parts responsible for making Karachi the Dumping Grounds. No Bite! The timing sucks!


  14. Salman A. (unregistered) on June 28th, 2007 @ 1:54 am

    no need to cry over T2F guys…
    learned people advised that ‘baal ki khaal mat nakalo’..

    instaed start up a new place called “t3f” and dont publish its news here :))))))


  15. atif abdul rahman (unregistered) on June 28th, 2007 @ 2:21 am

    T3F!
    thats not fair!
    totally lame.
    i protest to that,

    there is a million marathon announced on time here now.

    So everyone shud wear their favorite tracksuit (kachha) in protest of this newly suggested, highly monotonous and totally anti-creative name, THE T3F! We will have a march on July 19th and since its announced pretty early, u can see the associated blog entry later on. ur we shud expect one.

    PS: There will be a burnt efulgee signing at the event by yours truly afterwards…

    Lets run to protest!


  16. Teeth Maestro (unregistered) on June 28th, 2007 @ 2:25 am

    WOW – seriously you guys really know how to make a mountain out of a mole hill – fer god sake its just an event, as I said KMB will cover any event to which we are told about and is being held in Karachi. There is no doubt that T2F is great with early updates on its subscriber mailing list, so seriously this efficiency pays off that I get to post these events on KMB well in time before the event.

    @Adnan – Danka does a splendid job, but the volunteers actually go to the centers and collect the information themselves, its their hard work, it would be sad If I or anyone would copy their hard work for a quick post here, once in a while it might be ok but not on a regular basis. but if a center updates us with the information then and if any KMB author is ready to post then it will come on the blog, no questions asked ZILCH and no advert dollars spent.

    Lastly – @Nisha – you talked about a Muslim angle !!!! – !!! whoever mentioned that? Sad but it seem you ran over me with the religion bulldozer and I never even mentioned the word Muslim, its very much possible that you perceived a different impression from my post or my comment later ;) Not to worry – all is good, thought I clarify that

    Ill take a bow on the argument, simply saying that I will ‘strive harder to update KMB with other cultural events’ but at the same time if a T2F event comes along and then I stand on the principle of the issue that its a Karachi event and should be covered so despite all your protests you might see more posts on KMB. As these posts are truly Karachi specific regardless of where they are being hosted

    FOR THE RECORD : I am NOT being monetarily rewarded by cash or coffee beans or in any other way for the posts here. This is purely my own voluntary effort.


  17. nisha (unregistered) on June 28th, 2007 @ 3:17 am

    A HUGE ROUND OF APPLUASE FOR ADNAN AND SHAFIQUE. they said it in a better way what I wanted to say. I used to see T2f posts myself and was really looking fwd to visiting it the next time I was in khi. I know and enjoy a lot of similar places here in NYC but something turned sour when I saw the post of a cheery invititaion nesteled btw FIRE AT CLIFTON and 230 tragic deaths in khi. Somehow it sounded rather heartless and untimely. If it is for non profit events, how about dedicating a sombre evening to those who lost thie life the very same day. just to show a little empathy. you can come up with a thousand reasons to express that they have integrity but only one is enough to defy that.


  18. Shahid Alam (unregistered) on June 28th, 2007 @ 3:57 am

    NISHA….. oh please CAN it –

    I think this issue is a dead issue and you continue your ranting with no solid reasoning. Appreciate the issue for its positive impact. The 230 deaths were a sad event, the world moves on, do you want a ‘SOOG’ throughout Karachi when anyone passes away, respect the lost lives, and move on, don’t cut your own life short.

    Reading the post on 24th I see no issue of being disrespectful to the 230 lives, all that was asked was

    ‘Don’t let yesterday’s rain get you down…’ where is the disrespect?

    Ive not been to T2F, but I appreciate their effort, Don’t pull their legs.

    @TM – I don’t agree with the line of criticism taken by Nisha and others that’s unwarranted, but if she were to say, feed us info from other sources ‘as well’ then I agree with her – there is a definite overdose of T2F lets dilute the postings, but at the same time lets not censor the T2F postings we would like to be updated as it is a Karachi event.

    A message to all the heated responders / debaters – let it die, after all the post is spot on Karachi event you can’t challenge that.


  19. omar r. quraishi (unregistered) on June 28th, 2007 @ 4:02 pm

    i have to agree with nisha and sajid — shahid of course it goes without saying that all karachi events should be posted on this blog but the fact (by looking at many recent posts) seems to be that the second floor gets disproportionately more coverage —

    maneezeh — there are lots of ngos who aredoing good work and have done so without any advertising on any blog — the best prob is the edhi foundation who surely doesnt need any help from any blog — your argument in that context makes little sense — those who said that cafes (even those who say that they are non-profit — which in itself is a misnomer because you need SOME profit to be sustainable) need to run ads in newspapers and magazines and so on — and in any case, they arent serving free food — maybe cheaper than other cafes but if you take price of food as an indication of the enterprise being non profit then most khokhas outside my office on chundrigar road would also qualify — the non-profit label bandied about very easily these days though i am sure the second floor is a welcome addition to the karachi cultural scene — having said that, it seems to be monopolising all mention of that cultural scene on this blog


  20. original-anon (unregistered) on June 28th, 2007 @ 6:51 pm

    I agree, total overdose of T2F and disregard for the Karachi rain deaths; would have been nice to see some volunteer/donation opportunities for the victims and their families in this blog.
    With that said, would anyone post a review of the event when it does happen? It would be really awesome to see her live,but since I can’t do that, I would settle for reading about other people’s experience. I’ve only read translations, being unable to read Sindhi.


  21. Hasan Zuberi (unregistered) on June 28th, 2007 @ 7:18 pm

    I agree with RAMLA …

    There is no harm in using the medium (KMB) for publicising anything positive.

    But yes, keep it under a limit … overdosing kills the brand … and its the same case here … T2F is a sincere effort … but posting in similar manner by the same person made it controversial.


  22. Happy Lahori (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 7:55 am

    Yaara hadd ho gaee. Agar itna dard hai insan ka to utho kuch karo … T2F par bahas sey to lavahekeen ko faida nahi hoga. I hope Lahore mein bhi kholay T2F koi.


  23. Abul Mansoor (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 7:59 am

    Yaara hadd ho gaee. Agar itna dard hai insan ka to utho kuch karo … T2F par bahas sey to lavahekeen ko faida nahi hoga. I hope Lahore mein bhi kholay T2F walay.

    Don’t worry T2F. You do your job, yaara. Let these ppl sit on their asses and write ‘editorials’.


  24. Abul Mansoor (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 8:02 am

    Sorry for the duplication,yaar. Please delete first one. Thank you.


  25. Zakintosh (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 9:06 am

    Original Anon: Reviews and recaps of the events at T2F can often be found on various attendees blogs, including mine, where it’ll happen regularly from now on. I was a bit hesitant, earlier, because of my relationship with T2F – I am one of the Board Members. But I guess reviewing the event, rather than the space or its service and offerings is something I can do. And even an unabashed plug on my own blog for something I am supporting strongly is no one else’s problem.

    I see the controversy above and would like to respond and clarify some misconceptions, but I think too much of KMB space has been taken up by this.

    Just wanted to add two things:

    1. Thanks to the suggestions of many friends – and finally finding the time to do so – we have sent in our Registration to Danka which is an absolutely wonderful site and deserves the thanks and support of all Karachiites and Lahoris (who seem, unfortunately, to have started bashing each other there)…

    2. T2F does not request KMB (or other sites) to ‘advertise’ it, but it does send out info regarding the event to several people, some of whom may have sites or blogs where they mention it. And we do hope, of course, that people on our mailing list will inform others, in turn.


  26. Zakintosh (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 9:18 am

    Hey KMB guys: I found the ad just below the Attiya Dawood info above really hilarious (and misleading), because one of the rules at T2F is that you definitely cannot bring booze there!


  27. omar r. quraishi (unregistered) on June 29th, 2007 @ 4:27 pm

    actually kidvai sahib — if you’re a board member you shouldnt be reviewing any event that it hosts — but that’s how it is in the print media — i would imagine the same ethics apply to the blogging world — just like i would never review a play arranged by students of the university where my wife teaches (although she doesnt even teach drama) but i wouldnt want to be accused of using my position in that way

    abul mansoor — speak for yourself and try to ‘debate’ an issue with making personal comments


  28. Zakintosh (unregistered) on June 30th, 2007 @ 10:53 am

    Qureshi Sahab

    If you re-read my earlier comment carefully, you’ll know that I was hesitant, initially. However, I am neither reviewing the events on ATP, nor on KMB, nor any publication, on or offline, for love or money. I am merely recapping and describing the happenings from a purely personal viewpoint, sharing the pix I take, and posting even audio-visual bits (with the express permission of the performers, I may add) on my own blog. I am convinced that this is OK … YMMV. My blog is read by a handful of people, some of whom have ‘requested’ such posts. Here’s an example of such a comment, from a USA-based reader, on the PH event recap I did last week: “Please keep blogging about the T2F events for those of us who are unlikely to benefit from in-person attendance. Maybe at some point these events can be recorded and put on the T2F site or on youtube for a larger audience. Thanks again.”

    Even if you do consider such blogging recaps to be an advert for T2F, I wrote in my earlier comment: “… even an unabashed plug on my own blog for something I am supporting strongly is no one else’s problem.”. To me these posts on my blog are no different from having described the whole thing in an email and sent out to all my blog readers, an impractical approach and one that I would certainly enjoy less than blogging.

    As for your own high principles (as presumably shown by the example you give of your wife’s hypothetical school play), you are entitled to set your own standards and should be applauded for them. But to imply that these are the standards of print journalism in general is nothing but unadulterated bull! I am not referring to tabloids and sensationalism seeking rags…. I am talking of our top publications. They have often published reviews of events written – at their request (and, often, understandablr reasons) – by people closely connected with the performance (including by someone from among the performers themselves, on an occasion). The fact that they published them under pseudonyms is hardly an example of impeccable honesty.

    I can site many examples of this (and of other dishonest forms of journalism by well-known and respected reporters and journalists). I even wrote a tirade against this practice years ago, with specific examples, but it was refused publication. Here, I will confine myself to two recent personal experiences: While I was on the Board of the APMC (Karachi) – and a Founder Member, at that – I was asked to write a review by one of the top publications in the country for our First APMC Conference. On saying it was unethical I was told that it was common practice and I should do so under a pseudonym. The second one is a pending request (and one that will remain pending!) to write a regular review of books for a magazine, in exchange for being able to say that they are available at the T2F Bookshop. Bah!

    BTW, I have been guilty of succumbing to a couple of such requests, I admit: Both times it was for aricles published years ago in publications you worked for — though, obviously, at that time you were not the decision-maker. Hopefully things are better under your ethical supervision now.

    ORQ, just a couple of requests: Please do not always be so negative and self-righteous about everything that goes on. And do learn to take life, and yourself, much less seriously once in a while. Don’t be so high-handed when the truth is actually far from what you claim. To be fair, your claims are not made-up, but based on your knowledge … but there IS a world outside of that, too, na? Yes, you have opinions and many of us differ from them. That’s the way the world should be. Everyone thinking the same is hardly an interesting notion. However, everyone thinking, is!

    Anyway, I am swearing off engaging with you on or offline, if I can avoid it, not because I do not enjoy debate or dialgue (I LOVE IT!), but because a meaningful discussion requires certain common frames of reference. It is obvious that we live on different planets.

    As usual, you are welcome to have the last word.

    [Apologies to te rest of the people, but I thought it needed a response, since Qureshi Sahab had chosen to address me directly.]


  29. Bina (unregistered) on June 30th, 2007 @ 11:14 am

    If I taught the way I blogged, I would get fired! A blog is a personal space… one is allowed to express whatever one wants to. Blogs don’t belong to the institution that you work for. There have been incidences of people writing about their workplaces in their blogs and then getting fired, but that’s a different kettle of fish.

    The “blogging world” is completely different from writing for a newspaper or even a Web site that is semi-professional or professional in nature. You can tout yourself or anything that you participate in, as much as you want to. I use my blog to talk about events I’ve participated in, post photos from readings, etc etc. The space is MINE. That’s why they call them PERSONAL blogs.


  30. Sajid (unregistered) on June 30th, 2007 @ 1:50 pm

    Mr. Zaheer and Bina,

    I second both of you, everyone is free to post whatever they want in their private/personal blog, however the case we are discussing here is regarding Karachi metblogs. Its important that blog capture its audience from a broad perspective, not just focusing a gathering which is already pre-booked through mailing lists with hardly 4 dozen seats available. Its ok to give some T2F events coverage but 2 dose a week is just enough!
    Also the whole thing is simply in no way representative of whole Karachi in my opinion nor it justifies the eneormous amount of space and attention being given when hardly a bunch of people participates ( mostly authors ) and all activities are just geared towards specific audience.

    You can’t force literature on someone by advertising it again and again! a gentle dose is fine but overdose kills….

    Initially i was also excited with the idea when i heard about t2f first time on this blog and i truly appreciate the effort, but now i see the meaning of all this loosing in front of me because of over coverage. Apart form it the reaction and posts also suggests that guests are either pre-invited ones or those with close-knit circles which may alienate others who are thinking about joining one of the events. The last point is just my personal opinion.


  31. Shahid Alam (unregistered) on June 30th, 2007 @ 2:49 pm

    Zack, I fully agree with you, specially in regards to the pigheadedness (LOL) of ORQ, I hope we get to see another round of his blind sighted exhibitonalism when he steps up to the plate to defend the old media. like we saw in the round at ATP where he squared off with Sabahat and a few others

    He seems to behave like an elitist trying to hover around the web claiming to be the upholder of the ethical standards of the print media which we all know is far far from ethical. Its a fact that Pakistani Journalism revolves around the philosophy that ‘we rule’. ORQ must very well know the power wielded by his employer Mir Shakeel-ur-Rehman and how he misuses it to his own advantage and also helping his numerous print and electronic publications. Shakeel ur Rehamn claims to be the maker & breaker of many governments simply because ‘they didn’t get along well’

    Now I hope ORQ is not going to stand up to defend the ethics of his employer or has he taken that burden as well.


  32. omar r. quraishi (unregistered) on June 30th, 2007 @ 3:46 pm

    as i expected — everyone springing to kidvai sahib’s defence — it seems you are not very open to criticism yourself kidvai sahib — bina thank you for the lesson in what a blog is — i was saying something else — that it is unethical to review something organised by a place that you are associated with — also if people say something on a public blog like here then they should be prepared to accept criticism

    kidvai sahib like in all professions journalism has its share of black sheep — to generalise that all journalists are like that is bad — what you went through is bad and perhaps you should have complained about it to the editor of the publication but what i said stands — and oh i am not being self righteous or living in a bubble — most professional journalists i know and work with and have worked with would have said the same thing to you — i dont know why you should be so sensitive about it – and kindly learn to talk to people without being patronising and/or condenscending — it may lend credence to your argument

    as for standards of journalism, most institutions try to have them in place and institutionalise them and sometimes it works and sometimes its a struggle — i am sure (and I hope) bina here would not be asked by Books and Authors to review her own book (and for the record I no longer work at Dawn but I am pretty sure that much of the staff there adhere to these standards as is the case where I work presently)

    shahid sahib, im afraid its difficult to respond to you because your post was full of insinuations, presumptions and assumptions (most of them wrong)


  33. Original-Anon (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 6:51 am

    Zackintosh: Thank you. I look forward to a review of the event.
    ORQ: I do remember you copying and pasting your newspaper articles in the comment section here many times. I think that certainly qualified as shameless plugs for you and your newspaper.


  34. omar r. quraishi (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 1:21 pm

    original anon — actually not really — but you can think that if you want — i dont really have a problem with that — but its not the same as reviewing something that you have a personal interest in — btw original your post gets 10 out of 10 for irrelevance —

    i didnt know there was a rule against posting what you write on a blog? or is there original — obviously bloggers and their friends do not take kindly to criticism — quite hypocritical — didnt know posting something relevant to something being discussed is shameless — i wonder if you did that with uzi here as well who does the same —


  35. omar r. quraishi (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 1:23 pm

    what i also find interesting is that no one has a problem with nisha here who started the objection from the very first post but the minute i said something zak decided to step in and have his say — and his friends (as usual) rallied to his ‘defence’ — interesting


  36. Bina (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 1:55 pm

    I can understand people being concerned that T2F events are dominating the KMB space. But would it be better if these events weren’t advertised at all on this blog? Honest opinions, please.

    Seriously, if people see an imbalance, then shouldn’t they be writing about other events themselves instead of castigating the person who is writing about them? Sometimes I find this upsetting about our Pakistani mindset: acting as if there isn’t enough space for EVERYONE to have a say, plug their event of choice, etc. etc. and from that mentality of deprivation, wanting to censor and censure the people that are using the space, plugging the event, whatever.

    Omar, sorry, I didn’t mean to be patronizing, and can understand if my comment about blogs came across that way. Books and Authors wouldn’t ask me to review my own book, sure. But I’d talk about my own book, or readings, or good reviews that I get from other people on my blog to my heart’s content! (and I often do but havent’ yet reviewed one of my own books – that would be a feat that I’m not sure I could accomplish!). That’s really just out of maternal pride. I think Zak feels a sort of paternal pride towards T2F and that’s why he talks about the events on his blog. Nothing wrong with feeling happy and proud about occurrences that you have had a direct or indirect hand in making a success.

    But you make a valid point about keeping boundaries intact, especially in the business of reviewing for media. I don’t think Zak’s post really fell in that category…

    And again, if people feel that there is too much space being devoted to T2F events, they should just step in and talk about other events to even out the imbalance. Simple solution!

    Peace to ALL.


  37. omar r. quraishi (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 8:37 pm

    no offence taken — well if he felt that way he could have explained — my view was from a professional journalist’s point of view — and what does he do? use a whole lot of personal insinuations in his post all the while pretending that he is above such kind of exchanges — i understand what you are saying but my post was in reference to him writing a review for his place — which is obviously unethical — and btw i dont think people are saying that t2f shouldnt be advertised here but rather that the impression some people are getting is that its monopolising such things at KMB – THAT’S ALL — i dont understand why people would take such things so personally — you btw need to go see your friend’s blog and his and his friends’ posts in response to something i wrote — which was quite valid and relevant


  38. omar r. quraishi (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 8:41 pm

    and btw i actually wouldnt want to write about other events in the city — i come here on this site because its a good alternative to the city pages of newspages — also some of the posts give good ideas for follow up stories


  39. omar r. quraishi (unregistered) on July 1st, 2007 @ 8:44 pm

    btw bina why dont u write for our pages?



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