Daughter of the East returns home

BB16.jpgIts been over three hours since Benazir Bhutto arrived in Karachi on a flight from Dubai. Her procession is slowly winding its way from the airport to her final destination at Bilawal House which will also include a short detour to Quaid-e-Azams mazar to pay homage to the father of the nation and also address a public rally.

Considering all the negativity surrounding her reeling and dealing with the King Musharraf, and now when we all observe this tremendous welcome being accorded to her on the streets of Karachi, one does have to wonder is this truly what the people want? I leave this as an open ended question asking your opinion and reaction to this return of Mohtarma Sahibah after her self imposed exile for eight years.

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50 Comments so far

  1. EQ (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 7:10 pm

    Tremendous welcome ?
    the poor people want khurchi! in ohter words, roti, kupra & makan, all that sea of people is from interior sind, i did not witnessed seeing a single urban karachite.
    BB is as usaul, playing the sind card, bringing paid people from her hometown on the roads.


  2. MB (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 7:19 pm

    Well i wont say all but yes majority from that is the HARDCORE PPP guy who is there just because of BHUTTO.

    People dont give a shit to BB,ALTAF,NAWAZ or MUSH. If they are allowed they will throw all of em to liyari nadi and dump em somewhere.

    They are all plunderers,murderes,corrupt selfish criminals who have raped the aspirations of this nation for over 60 years.

    DOWN with ALL OF EM


  3. MB (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 7:21 pm

    I just called KARACHI foods and they said they are not taking my order BECAUSE OF THIS ALL BULLSHIT.

    I am from AWAAM, and we cannot EAT because of these leaders of ours. Chill!!


  4. Sadia (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 7:22 pm

    “Daughter of Corruption returns home”

    Finally, the countless visits to “White House” is paid off. Eight years with no good income and especially, when Bilawal is going to Oxford University. Do you think is time to spend 16 Billion dollars in reserve.

    Don’t tell me people of Pakistan are blind and had gold-fish memory. Read some of the following comment Azad Bhatti, a 35-year-old poultry farmer from the southern city of Hyderabad made:

    “When Benazir Bhutto is in power there is no bomb blast because she provides jobs and there is no frustration among the people,” he said. “whatever she thinks is for the betterment of the people.”


  5. Neena (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 7:31 pm

    The political process has stopped after Bhutto’s Judicial Murder. The political process has stopped after ZABhutto’s Judicial Murder. ZAB was the only true National leader Pakistan ever produced. Besides some controversial decisions he gave torn and broken Pakistan 1973 constitution, Nuclear plant, and Steel Mill (as a Karachiite I thank him for this). He never given due credit for uniting all Islamic world’s wealth calling Islamic conference which was attended by almost all Islamic leaders and Shah Faisal (a rarity). People want him back that’s why they love BB. We like it or not but PPP still the only majority party in the country. I like some national party to take over so religious and ethnical politicians won’t manipulate public for their own benefits. National party always keeps majorities interest in their mind and since their leaders and voters hailed from all over. People label PPP feudal party but I call it underprivileged party and Pakistan’s 90 percent population is poor.


  6. Neena (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 7:38 pm

    He never given due credit for uniting all Islamic world’s wealth calling Islamic conference which was attended by almost all Islamic leaders and Shah Faisal (a rarity).

    By this I meant he has plans to work with all Islamic nations and I guess there was a talk of Islamic Bank too. Just imagine if that had happened what would be the world order today. He had to be killed he was too smart for the world.


  7. MB (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 7:39 pm
  8. Razi (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 7:53 pm

    @Neena…..a short lesson in history is needed here.

    In the Elections of 1970 (historically the only Fair ones held in this country), Z.A.Bhutto WAS NOT the popularly elected Prime Minister of Pakistan….in fact it was Shaikh Mujeeb Ur Rehman’s Awami League which bagged close to 55% of the seats in the NA. Defining the norms of democracy….Mr. Bhutto did not like the idea of power slipping away from his hands….well the rest is history (and a very sad chapter too).

    Why should credit be given to someone responsible for the dismemberment of this country and the massacre of close to 300,000 people??


  9. Seema (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 7:53 pm

    .
    American Agent is finally home, I agree with you Sadia, people have very short memory.

    GoD help us


  10. khalid (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 8:00 pm

    Daughter of east or of West?

    is just cashing his dads past popluarity.

    I haven’t seen Bhutto, but I have definitly seen the, how can we forget the mass killings in Karachi and Hyderabad?

    Is PPP a democratic party? NO, not at all. There are no elections within the party, how can they claim to be democratic?

    Is PP a national party> not at all. It is now ETHNIC, 90% of sindhis as is Mutahida 90% of Muhajirs.

    I think, our Masters have big plans to cut and divide us so she will do what her dad was responsible for, dividing the existing Pakistan even more.


  11. Rukun (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 8:01 pm

    they did promise free biryani to all those dancing at the airport and those shahra-e-faisal rallies. why doesnt any one else know of this


  12. MB (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 8:07 pm

    @DOCTOR
    Daughter of Fraud and Corruption suits BB more as someone earlier mentioned.

    Daughter of east would be for people like Parveen Shakir, Kishwar Naheed, Asma jahangir, Bano Qudsia,Bilquis Edhi, Mukhtaran Mai ETC.


  13. Neena (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 8:13 pm

    Razi you said

    Mr. Bhutto did not like the idea of power slipping away from his hands….well the rest is history (and a very sad chapter too).

    Army was in power at the time, so it was Army’s fault not Mujeeb’s or Butto’s. BTW, Do you really think our shameless Army would have part from power IF country isn’t broken and Army hadn’t lost the war with India with 90’000 POW? We are talking about the same Army who never leaves a chance to stay away from power.


  14. Neena (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 8:28 pm

    MB,

    Thanks for the link. I think people are learning http://www.thenews.com.pk/print1.asp?id=75713
    and they should have given a choice so they can reject someone who don’t deliver.


  15. Razi (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 8:28 pm

    Neena:

    History records that the words “Idher hum…Udher tum” and “I will break the legs of those who attend the session of the National Assembly”….were not uttered by anyone from the Army.

    That’s what I meant by a lesson in history.


  16. Reality_Check (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 8:56 pm

    Whatever we say and how much we curse. When it comes to putting on a show, there is no one like PPP.
    Who else can draw such crowds, they are not paid, they might be fools because they are in love. Whereas, no one is in love with Nawaz Sharif, he had only 2000 workers (all of them managed to get arrested on Sept 9), He can only demand sympathy. Imran Khan is a no show. Qazi is no where, that leaves Altaf Hussain who can surely draw similar crowds but not all over the country. And that’s the reality.

    As for East Pakistan separation I agree with Neena and add that not only the major responsibility lies with the army for carrying worst atrocities in the history of man kind, but also the Muslim League, whose policies provided the trigger long before 1971. PPP was there just in time to deliver the final blow; it had no part in the past.

    It is also a sad fact that after executing ZAB, no higher court in Pakistan will dare to convict any of our leaders, they will just pile on the dates even if the evidence is there, so much so for the independent judiciary. The onus is on the people, and that’s were the free elections come in. But one thing is sure we are not going back to the nineties, we are moving forward. Mush will not let the politicians bring down the institutions that he has re-built, and that’s a reality too.


  17. HITMAN (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 9:01 pm

    MB, please remove Asma Jehangir from ur list. She doesn’t deserver it at all.


  18. Neena (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 9:27 pm

    “Idher hum…Udher tum”

    Is interpreted wrong, he meant two confederates with one central government.

    Just for the sake of argument say he meant what you said still his opinion doesn’t count as HE wasn’t in charge ARMY was. Army should have called the Assembly session wherever they can instead of engaging in murder, loot and plunder. As for Bhutto he was the same one who Army later hanged so I don’t think he was powerful than Army. BTW why are you letting the Army off the hook who did the most heinous crimes in the history of Pakistan by killing innocents in then East Pakistan? They never been punished for the crimes against humanity that’s why they always come back to grab the things which don’t belong to them. Bangladeshi Army isn’t the saint either remember how they killed their father of the nation in the cold blood. Undivided Pakistan inherited the most corrupt and opportunistic Army leadership. Zia was so eager to hang civilian who gave order to kill his political opponent but he never even court martial a single Army leader who were responsible of hundreds of thousands deaths. To him their blood doesn’t mean anything as they were east Pakistanis so much for integrity in the name of religion. We need to tactfully take away the control from these guys who have suspended the 1973 constitution according to which it is considered Mutiny if Army tried to grab power.

    I do not have any personal interest who ever comes to power as long as it’s by fair and free elections. It would be best if some national party come to power if there is any left. Political process had to go on so people can reject who are still benefiting from their previous deeds including PPP, ML, JI (other religious parties), and MQM leaders.


  19. Jamal Shamsi (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 9:35 pm

    if WE deny that BB has returned after ‘making a deal with ARMY’ we are living in fools paradise.

    July 2002 amendment to be prime minister for 3rd time is still valid and has not been revoked.

    General have clearly indicated and media highlighted very prominently – “President, Army Chief and Prime Minister” the troika is necessary to deal with the circumstances in & around Pakistan.

    The show of street power is at expense of ONE DAY OFF in Karachi – whatever is the price – plus the 170 Million spend by collective fund of PPP.

    by the way – 275 cars were snatched in Karachi between 16th & 17th october – Police have given Katcha Parcha to all asking the owners to wait till 20th when the cars will be found abondoned in parts of Karachi.

    :D smile, time is coming again when people will be scared to buy new cars., and junk yar business will thrive acorss HUB area.


  20. Echoes (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 9:35 pm

    Whenever I look at these people (the one’s putting on this ‘carnival’), from my window, I can only draw conclusions:

    a) Either they are bought.

    b) Or they are utterly brainwashed.

    Karachi must be the only city in the world in which its own residents are made hostage.


  21. fully informed idiot (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 10:27 pm

    So bascially not a single postive response about her arrival. Then WTF are all the people on TV dancing about. Don’t tell me the educated masses are sitting in front of their TVs disgusted and the other masses are out on the streets dancing and hopng for free Biryani.


  22. zs (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 11:10 pm

    I don’t know why everyone gets their panties in a twist about benazir. i’m sure more than half of her corruption charges are made up… because she’s a woman, AND because she’s a politician. it’s not like anyone else is any less corrupt… the whole army, the people musharraf relies upon (i.e. the pml-q), nawaz sharif, altaf hussain, the mullas… is anyone of them any better? i don’t think so. but we’ve demonized benazir as if she’s a monster when, if anything, she’s the most intelligent, progressive and liberal politician of the lot, and even though it’s mostly lip service, her socialist rhetoric WILL trickle into some actions that benefit the really poor. that’s why the PPP is the best supported party in the country even though the odds have been stacked against them for 30 years.


  23. zs (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 11:20 pm

    I don’t know why people get their panties in a twist about Benazir. i’m sure more than half of her corruption charges are politically motivated… even after 8-10 years, they haven’t been proven in pakistan. if she was THAT blatant about it, then they would’ve found something. anyways, i’m sure she filled her own pockets when she was in power… but who hasn’t? they’re ALL corrupt… the army generals, the mma, mqm, the pml q that musharraf is buddies with, musharraf himself according to this article:
    http://thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=10566

    i think people have her such a monster, and i think most of it comes from the fact that she’s a woman, and that’s just intolerable to most men in our society. if anything, she’s the most intelligent, liberal and seasoned politician of the lot… and most loved as well. her socialist rhetoric might be mostly lip service, but some of the benefits do trickle down to the poorest people.


  24. Imran (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 11:38 pm

    @Zs
    ” she’s the most intelligent, liberal and seasoned politician of the lot… and most loved as well.”
    Please elaborate how you came up with these calims about her..”intelligent”(any example plz)”Progressive and liberal”(yeha right)”and most loved” By WHOM??Get the total population of Karachi and minus the number of people showed up to welcome her, you would know if she is the most loved or not.(exclude the people showed up from interior sindh, punjab, balochistan, and northern areas)


  25. zs (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 11:44 pm

    @imran:
    why do you think only the population of karachi counts? people from interior sindh or punjab or wherever they’re from are also citizens of this country. i’d actually wager most of the people are either from lyari or other PPP strongholds in the city, and the rest are from all over the country. obviously most of them are party workers and jiyalas, but they also count. “intellient” might be my own value judgement (after hearing all our other “leaders” talk), but progressive and liberal shouldn’t be much in doubt. mushie’s donned the fake suit of being such a liberal, and all in 8 years of unchecked power, he barely pushed together one or two pieces of legistlation on women issues. he’s always been too afraid to take on the mullas.


  26. Dani (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 11:54 pm

    SMS Making Rounds:
    Benazir is standing at the airport dressed like the pakistani flag. Both Musharraf and Altaf are fighting over who gets to push in the pole.


  27. IUnknown (unregistered) on October 18th, 2007 @ 11:59 pm

    daughter of east (a.k.a pinky )
    she was used to go to clubs during her javani
    kia baat hay jee… kaisay kaisay loag is mulk kay leader banney a rahay hain..


  28. Ibrahim (unregistered) on October 19th, 2007 @ 12:14 am

    salamalikum

    magarmuch kay asoon hain yay; dramay bazi…Zs says she’s the most intelligent… Really? That’s why she doesn’t know how stupid it’s to place a Quran on somebody’s head for “protection”? It is a clear bidat and kharafat.

    Two set of people are in trouble now: The NWFP tribal pathans and Muhajirs of Karachi (MQM supporters). You thought Mush was doing too much up north…just wait and see now. And, Sindhis and others 12th May kay badla laynay kay leeyay baychain hain. Bhutto is the worst thing for Pakistan.


  29. wow u neena (unregistered) on October 19th, 2007 @ 12:28 am

    Neena is PPP babe

    Well, who was playing in Army’s lap, if ZAB was not responsible for the partition.

    If Zulfiqar Bhutton had any clue of being fair he would have given power to Mujeeb ur Rehman.

    But the power zealot , Bhutto didn’t like it. I guess what he faced later was indeed deserved.(PERIOD).


  30. zs (unregistered) on October 19th, 2007 @ 12:47 am

    @wow you neena:
    so if musharraf is doing the same thing, shamelessly hanging on to power against the will of the nation, does he deserve the same fate?


  31. Salman A. (unregistered) on October 19th, 2007 @ 1:11 am

    “Daughter of the East returns home”…..

    Are you kidding me? She is the daughter of Bhutto, not East. And don’t tell me that Bhutto’s nick name was East. Me no dumb ok….


  32. zaidi (unregistered) on October 19th, 2007 @ 1:22 am

    Uuder the present circumstances Pakistan has no option except to allow democracy to take root and I think this is a good first step towards that goal. As for people being ethnic, I have to say we all as Pakistanis are guilty of that since nationalism is not very much part of our identity.


  33. zaidi (unregistered) on October 19th, 2007 @ 1:22 am

    Uuder the present circumstances Pakistan has no option except to allow democracy to take root and I think this is a good first step towards that goal. As for people being ethnic, I have to say we all as Pakistanis are guilty of that since nationalism is not very much part of our identity.


  34. ishma alvi (unregistered) on October 19th, 2007 @ 1:50 am

    benazir just succeeded in murdering and injuring innocent people. it was her fault. if sha had any consideration for her people she should have gotten to bilawal house quickly and discreetly, without putting all her followers and police at risk.
    i wish the bomb had gotten her.


  35. SELF (unregistered) on October 19th, 2007 @ 1:55 am

    “it was her fault. if sha had any consideration for her people she should have gotten to bilawal house quickly and discreetly”

    @ishma alvi: Only MQM supporters say things like this. They think they mama/bawa brought Karachi from India with them and that no one else a right over Karachi’s street except MQQM gunday.


  36. Reality_Check (unregistered) on October 19th, 2007 @ 1:57 am

    Buckup NEENA! I am for the under dog!

    Come on guys I can feel a strong buring smell. Be a sport, Bibi has said that, “She has learned a lot in 20 years”. hopefully, she has learned something useful, otherwise for better or for worse till death do us part.

    She has definitely shown that she has matured as a politician, but has she matured as a person? Can she rein in her huband and the jiyalaas? that question too will be answered soon.

    Mean time enjoy the show that only Bibi can put up. Like it or not but the fact remains that She is not chicken, like other emerging and not so emerging political leaders of this country.


  37. ishma alvi (unregistered) on October 19th, 2007 @ 2:01 am

    What a laugh?! democracy? what is that and HOW does it apply to Pakistan.
    the structure of leadership must suit the needs of the nation. and our nation is not mature, sophisticated, educated or even tamed enough to have it.
    we NEED martial law.


  38. keep dreaming (unregistered) on October 19th, 2007 @ 2:05 am

    Do we need “democracy” more than we need justice in our society?

    Well how the thugs, who don’t have democracy within their party, can bring democracy to Pakistan?

    BB and nor even her father practiced democracy, they want(ed) a world where every one should submit to them and accept it as a “DIVINE DEMOCRACY”.

    I dont’ care if its a military Govt or a democratic or mullah party, we need Justice more than any thing.

    BB got the third chance all because of


  39. Really (unregistered) on October 19th, 2007 @ 2:12 am

    @Teeth Meastro!,

    You should change the title of the blog to

    One more plunderer joins rest of the plunderers

    I wonder how literate people can support BB!, morality must have been past burried.

    We deserve leaders like BB, thats our punishment for our emotions. May be its high time, Altaf joins the gang! too.


  40. ishma alvi (unregistered) on October 19th, 2007 @ 2:27 am

    Huh? what exactly is your point? that she has a ‘right’ to the streets? what ARE you talking about?

    of course she does, NO ONE IS ARGUING THAT!
    but she has a responsibility and in a position of huge power, responsibilities sometimes encroach on rights. and she knew that when she decided that she wanted to step into the role she has. but i suppose the ‘most intelligent’ one knew that, right?

    her responsibility for this day:
    not to put anyone at risk unnecessarily.(NOTE: i said unnecessarily). it was unnecessary to have throngs of people show up. your response will probably be “but they wanted to, they love her blah blah…” that is beside the point. she could have stated that she respected their display of love and could do it in a safe controlled environment, perhaps near her home or at a specially held rally, within a controlled environment. NOT ON THE STREETS!

    It didn’t once strike her that over a thousand people marching at snails pace on an open street would be sitting ducks for any dissenters?

    and no, before you jump to yet another conclusion, i do think (OBVIOUSLY) that the bombers were at fault. BUT she was equally to blame.

    so yes. i do think she is a murderer as much as the bombers.

    and please “only MQM talk like that…” what was that? an insult?


  41. ishma (unregistered) on October 19th, 2007 @ 2:32 am

    you are totally right and loved the line re: plunderers.
    and yes, it is surprising how short human (perhaps only Pakistani) memory is!


  42. Jamal Shamsi (unregistered) on October 19th, 2007 @ 3:23 am

    Churail arrived :D


  43. Raja Islam (unregistered) on October 19th, 2007 @ 3:27 am

    and the Oscar goes to….


  44. Zee (unregistered) on October 19th, 2007 @ 5:43 am

    Bastard child of the west :D


  45. Neena (unregistered) on October 19th, 2007 @ 7:27 am

    wow u neena said (though Razi has been convinced)

    Neena is PPP babe

    Well, who was playing in Army’s lap, if ZAB was not responsible for the partition.

    If Zulfiqar Bhutton had any clue of being fair he would have given power to Mujeeb ur Rehman.

    But the power zealot , Bhutto didn’t like it. I guess what he faced later was indeed deserved.(PERIOD).

    Whatever right is right. Yes I support National party. I’m against religious and ethnical politics. I dislike religious politician most so I voted MQM once. Not sure who I vote next but MQM leadership has done nothing besides crying so maybe I’ll vote for someone else in the next election. I love the leader who has guts and Bhutto got guts. I do not support Benazir BUT I would love to vote for someone who works to improve Rural Sindh, Balochistan, NWFP, and Rural Punjab’s condition. Karachiites need to start questioning their leaders if they want anything done here instead playing victim card.


  46. Neena (unregistered) on October 19th, 2007 @ 7:29 am

    wow u neena said (though Razi has been convinced ;)

    Neena is PPP babe

    Well, who was playing in Army’s lap, if ZAB was not responsible for the partition.

    If Zulfiqar Bhutton had any clue of being fair he would have given power to Mujeeb ur Rehman.

    But the power zealot , Bhutto didn’t like it. I guess what he faced later was indeed deserved.(PERIOD).

    Whatever right is right. Yes I support National party. I’m against religious and ethnical politics. I dislike religious politician most so I voted MQM once. Not sure who I vote next but MQM leadership has done nothing besides crying so maybe I’ll vote for someone else in the next election. I love the leader who has guts and Bhutto got guts. I do not support Benazir BUT I would love to vote for someone who works to improve Rural Sindh, Balochistan, NWFP, and Rural Punjab’s condition. Karachiites need to start questioning their leaders if they want anything done here instead playing victim card.


  47. Neena (unregistered) on October 19th, 2007 @ 7:33 am

    Thankyou for using same language you use to greet your loved ones


  48. IUnknown (unregistered) on October 19th, 2007 @ 11:14 am

    i agree that bay-nazir is sharp politician, very similar to his father but wat abt the corruption cases on her??’
    where did they go?


  49. Zee (unregistered) on October 19th, 2007 @ 4:54 pm

    Errrr Neena… do you live in Karachi? Or Larkana? If you live in Karachi and can’t see any development in the city which did not receive a single road in 12 years, then u certainly need to come out from under the rock that you live in!

    Mustafa Kamal has delivered like no one else delivered before. I’ll vote for MK not for MQM for sheer brilliance and speed of his government. SOrry but you need to get your facts together girl, you really do!


  50. ab (unregistered) on October 20th, 2007 @ 3:10 am

    “We are prepared to risk our lives and we are prepared to risk our liberty, but we are not prepared to surrender our great nation to the militants,” said benazir.

    note the word ‘liberty’… these are our leaders….PATHETIC



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