Supreme Court order & few legal questions

Watch GEO LIVE, [ Notice :Please follow KMB comment policy ] image at the right should be useful in shutting Gov. mouth against their PTV propaganda that SC didn’t issue any notice for restraining government from taking any unconstitutional or for that matter order related to PCO etc.

Secondly, the order by SC is clear (this was issued before the supposedly emergency/Martial Law). The president has been restrained by the court to issue any such order. This BBC link also supports the point. The Sindh HC judges have refused to take oath on PCO and have said that they received a fax from SC not to obey any such order. And he is bound to follow the order.

So my question is, how come this emergency is validated when before that SC had declared any such action illegal and its copies have already been given to media and press. So does our gov. plans to bulldoze all norms of ethics & constitution by force ? What if this PCO is taken into court using this very same faxed copy of SC order ?. Also the few judges who did take oath, did they not indulge in contempt of court ?

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25 Comments so far

  1. d0ct0r (unregistered) on November 4th, 2007 @ 10:54 pm

    well as they say might is right.. gun touting armymen have been in past used for sinister motives as well so this time its no exception.. lawyers should boycott those judges who’ve taken oath under new PCO and as those sacked senior judges have said that they’ll be going to their courts as they normally do,so the lawyers should make sure that dictator’s forces don’t create any hurdle and stop these sacked judges from reaching their courts and performing their duties… if the need arises and they’re not allowed into supreme court and provincial highcourt’s premises then they should setup court on the road outside supreme court and lawyers should attend those proceedings and totally boycott dictator’s courts..

    حلف نہ اٹھانےوالے دفتر جائیں گے

  2. .!. (unregistered) on November 4th, 2007 @ 11:08 pm

    this is not a place to disuss all this BULL ****.

    keep ur posts relevent.

  3. BITTER BITE (unregistered) on November 5th, 2007 @ 1:09 am

    My dear Pakistanis,
    bhaiyo, behno, and buzurgo:
    Army rule is good for you ordinary citizens of Pakistan who make 99% of the entire country’s population. Dont let any corrupt polititician, mullahs, and leaders, wash your brains.

    Dear Army:
    bring inflation down, bring law and order, curb extremism, and save our borders, so we can live happily in our dear land Pakistan. and yes, ban all corrupt politicians like you did before. they dont deserve any break. they dont represent Pakistanis any way, so what’s the differnce between between them and the Army??? please someone explain if I am wrong.

  4. exciton (unregistered) on November 5th, 2007 @ 1:17 am

    This is amazing. Army General Staff is fundamentally the most corrupt of all, more so than some of the politicians and all of the judges, then how come we expect them.

    Have we forgotten our history. Martial Law never results in anything good for the nation. How many times do we have to run the same painful experiment, and learn the hard way.

    Army rule does not work. Generals are themselves some of the most corrupt people. And they bring equally corrupt and dangerous politicians into power to support their self-rule.

    When will this nation learn.

    MUSHARRAF IS A TRAITOR — He has committed High Treason by suspending the Constitution [Article 6]. He should be tried for treason, which carries a death penalty.

  5. concerned coward (unregistered) on November 5th, 2007 @ 1:20 am

    As I was coming home from university one fine Nov 3rd evening, it came to my knowledge that emergency had been declared, only PTV was running, and there was a news blackout. Okay, I’d seen that happen 9 years ago as well, but this time I was furious. As furious as i was, I could do nothing but wait for the official state address by none other than Mr. I’m-right-you’re-wrong, Musharraf.
    The time came at 11.50 p.m. when the silence was finally broken; anymore of the endless advertisements on ptv and i would’ve gone mad.
    Now here is our president,telling us why he did what he did. And, as was expected, the address said “I’m right and you’re wrong!!!” with some mumbo jumbo to fill in the gaps. The hands of the person on screen were trembling and there was no confidence whatsoever in even a single word that was uttered.
    I was indeed saddened by what i was hearing. The president had refused to accept the supremacy of the law of the land, or whatever was left of it.

    Now…pakistan is just one big tribal area that is run by the gun-totting military/LEAs (read militia-men) on one side and Islamic militiamen on the other. Let’s see who wins this tug-of-war.

  6. Sameer (unregistered) on November 5th, 2007 @ 1:26 am

    God bless you for the GEO link.

  7. d0ct0r (unregistered) on November 5th, 2007 @ 1:41 am

    emergency or no emergency.. grand terrorist Altaf bai is free to make a telephonic address in his typical demonic voice.. almost 90 minute long speech and he didn’t even mentioned a thing about emergency..

  8. MB (unregistered) on November 5th, 2007 @ 1:50 am

    Why would the terrorist say anything on emergency when he is sitting in a dictators lap?

    He is comfortable living a luxurious life (thanks to the monthy bhatta that goes there) with a gov. of his likening here. He only cries when something related to his party is involved.

    In any case he is better stay quite. Poor chap cannot even talk properly.

  9. Zee (unregistered) on November 5th, 2007 @ 2:48 am

    I saw GEO TV on the internet and believe it or not but they were making a mess out of the situation. They said that Karachi’s streets are deserted and nobody’s on the roads. This happened on a BUSY BUSYYYY saturday night and I was out the whole city was busting with activity!.

    Geo, ARY and specially AAJ TV should be banned. They are literally making a HUGE mess! I totally agree with Mushy when he says that Media and Courts should STOP creating a mess out of every little god damn thing!

  10. Mr. Indian (unregistered) on November 5th, 2007 @ 3:38 am

    ha ha ha. lage raho. Aur islam kee chato. The miserable state of pakistan is all because of islam.

  11. Shiraz (unregistered) on November 5th, 2007 @ 3:49 am

    What the hell are you guys complaining about??? Is everyone here stupid, or dumb??? What is the big deal with this so called Emergency??? It’s not like we had a Democracy before for all these years. Most of you have been complaining all along how the General is in charge and controls your lives, then why the hell is it so different now?? Pakistan has no better options for its leaders since they all are corrupt and have their own agenda’s. The Democracy of a country is only good as its citizens. It’s a fact most Pakistani’s can’t handle Democracy even if they had one as proven in the past over and over. Paki’s can’t even make a simple single file line if asked to do so for say paying your utility bills. Don’t get me wrong I am also Paki and love Pakistan, but this is our reality. We just complain, we have nothing to offer to fix things. It’s about time the military go after all of these rejects. Everyone just points fingers at each other and has nothing to offer except how to gain everything for just themselves.

  12. Sameer (unregistered) on November 5th, 2007 @ 3:50 am

    You can also watch GEO TV here:


  13. MS (unregistered) on November 5th, 2007 @ 4:43 am


    Could you delete Mr. Indian’s above comment b/c all of the readers would agree that it has nothing to do with this post.


  14. Reality_Check (unregistered) on November 5th, 2007 @ 5:18 am

    Dont Worry no sky will fall down, certain politicians will have a tough time because they can no longer hog the courts or go to media studios and do all their politics from there.

    If any leader is serious about averting this situation then he / she will have to go to the people bring them out on the streets to propell a change (the old fashioned way). If they cant do that, then its better to sit at home and brood over their misfortunes like Bahadur Shah Zafar.

    BTW BB, Fazlul Rehman, Qazi Hussain and othe PML leaders are all free, and they have all given statements to the press. As for Altaf / MQM they are allies of Musharraf just like Sheikh Rasheed and others, so why complain about them there is no contradiction in there stand, if some body wants to effect a change its the best time to prove their mmetal, otherwise keep quiet…Shhhhhhhh

  15. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on November 5th, 2007 @ 10:54 am

    From the article given by Indian:

    Pakistan’s short 60-year history is full of coups and raw, violent tribal rivalry, peppered by jailing or executing the previous rulers. Most recently, we saw a stark and bold example of such rivalry: a returning Pakistani politician, a former prime minister, was deported from his own country.

    How come it has nothing to do with post or Pakistan? I don’t agree with part of combining Pakistan with India but the points made by the author are not lies either.

    Bhai Aainay mey agar shakal badsoorat nazar aye tu Aina nahi tortay.

  16. IUnknown (unregistered) on November 5th, 2007 @ 11:16 am

    this is indeed a very serious situation.

    inqilaab-e-Pakistan is needed, very similar to inqilaab-e-france

  17. TRUTH IS DANGEROUS (unregistered) on November 5th, 2007 @ 11:25 am

    dear authors and commentors , we should not curse Mushraf for the emergency or blocking the tv channels or restricting the freedom of press after all these principles are also being practise resularly on our very own KARACHI METRO BLOGGING from the last few weeks some people are also doing the same thing on KMB that if they dont like the comment of any one about there post or if some one disagrees with them than insted of defending there post and doing a healthy debate the author simply deletes the post , come on you KMBers hypocriates grow up , if you are doing the same thing than why curse Musharaf

  18. ADNAN SIDDIQI IS AN IDIOT (unregistered) on November 5th, 2007 @ 11:33 am

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  19. fahmed (unregistered) on November 5th, 2007 @ 11:52 am

    “Bachayaa too nay hamay dahaktay whoay sharoon say

    Na parnay dee hampay dunya kee mailee ankh kabhee

    Jee chahataa kay tujsay aik sawal karoon ay Khudaa

    Kiyoon Bachayaa na too nay humay hamaroon say”

    I have just written the above lines and my urdu is not very good as you all might have noticed therefore if someone can refine the above tota phuta shair then I would appreciate it!
    It comes straight from the heart:)

  20. IUnknown (unregistered) on November 5th, 2007 @ 2:51 pm

    excellent @fahmed.. are u a poet?

  21. Mr. Indian (unregistered) on November 5th, 2007 @ 2:58 pm

    Why do pakis care so much for the self determination right of Kashmiris when you yourself don’t have that right in Pakistan. Hypocrisy?

  22. MS (unregistered) on November 5th, 2007 @ 7:15 pm

    @ Adnan Siddiqi

    Yeah sure; you might just as well said that the article is related to Pakistan b/c the word “Pakistan” is being used in it :)

    I am sure you once again failed to understand what the post is about (its about SC and its ruling) and what is that article about (about splitting Pakistan).

  23. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on November 5th, 2007 @ 10:40 pm

    Manny, yes I ran the algo of string find to locate string “Pakistan” thus I considered it Pakistan related article. If you can’t even read the actual article or even the para I quoted above then it’s not my fault.

  24. Sara (unregistered) on November 6th, 2007 @ 10:59 am

    MB is anti paki, anti everything he is a raw agent why would he delete that!

  25. kashif (unregistered) on November 6th, 2007 @ 7:24 pm

    I have been following politics in Pakistan ever since I was 6-7 years

    old. I still remember Bhutto’s unlawful hanging. I remember Zia’s

    corrupt and bigoted martial law and I also remember the nascent and at

    times the corrupt democracies which followed. But what I see happening

    today in Pakistan is not only unwarranted but also unparalleled in our


    Our Judiciary is under siege, they are effectively arrested as if they

    are nothing more than common criminals. Imagine majority of the Supreme

    Court is being held hostage in any civilized country. How shameful. With

    them a majority of the High Court Judges of Pakistan are also being held

    hostage by the present regime.

    And then the usurpers who call themselves the government of Pakistan

    have the galls to talk about that they are doing all this for the

    betterment of the country. They speak to us as if they are speaking to

    their slaves. They talk down to us.

    How long, how long are we going to suffer this ignominy? When will we

    stand up and be counted?

    All these years I have been disillusioned by the dream called Pakistan.

    A ray of hope arose when the lawyer’s community and the Higher Judiciary

    rose to the occasion.

    A hope that yes maybe I too might have some recourse against the people

    who sit in the corridors of power and who are not used to any one

    questioning their authority and wrong doings.

    A hope, that I too can enjoy basic freedoms and human rights.

    But for now it seems like it was just an amazing dream that has just

    ended too quickly. The ray of hope was quashed by those who are nothing

    more than Usurpers of this nation’s rights and hopes. And darkness

    prevails again. The fight between good and evil has moved into its

    second phase.

    The judges have done their duty, the lawyers and ex judges have done

    their duty, the media has done its duty, and now the bugle blows for us

    the citizens of Pakistan wherever we are to do our duty.

    My fellow Pakistanis there is no better time to be counted than now, let

    your voices be heard, let the people who are assaulting us in the cover

    of darkness know that we will not take it lying down any more.

    Let the usurpers and their cohorts know that Pakistan was not created

    for them but for us the common man, so that we could enjoy life, liberty

    and the pursuit of happiness.

    I ask my fellow Pakistanis to register their protest peacefully and for

    those who are in Pakistan to lay wreaths on the gates of the judiciary

    that has been murdered by the evil usurper, and do it in large numbers.

    So that by leaving behind these wreaths we can let these usurpers know

    that yes we are peaceful but we are aware and we will not let them take

    away our rights without a fight.

    I suggest we lay these wreaths outside all the courts in Pakistan. And

    mourn the death of our brave judiciary. And then when we have done this

    in the thousands, then we should rejoice and welcome the new judiciary

    which has arisen out of these ashes the brave judiciary who lies

    captured in the hands of these usurpers, and rise to free them from

    these shackles.

    For those who are not in Pakistan I suggest, we register our protest by

    writing to the editors of the various influential newspapers and writing

    or calling our elected representatives wherever we are and letting them

    know that they need to now stand up with the moderates and the democracy

    loving people of Pakistan and only then is there any salvation against

    the extremists that they are trying so hard to defeat. Or otherwise what

    stares them in their faces is a civil war in Pakistan. And that is not

    good. For you don’t want another Iraq or Iran in the face of Pakistan.

    It is time to be counted. Time to let our voices be heard. Stop all that

    you are doing. Your country needs nothing more than for you to be on the

    streets, and on the phones or with your emails to let you voices be

    heard among all mankind that we will not take this lying down.

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